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Hey Forums,
Im pretty new and i just recently visited the sprint store and checked out the new Samsung Epic 4g. Its pretty amazing and the UI Is amazing.
My question being is there anyway or anyone who could port a Samsung Galaxy S or the Epic .. or really any of the Samsung Phones ROM over to the CDMA Hero? If so it would be greatly appreciated.
- Anthony
anthonysl318 said:
Hey Forums,
Im pretty new and i just recently visited the sprint store and checked out the new Samsung Epic 4g. Its pretty amazing and the UI Is amazing.
My question being is there anyway or anyone who could port a Samsung Galaxy S or the Epic .. or really any of the Samsung Phones ROM over to the CDMA Hero? If so it would be greatly appreciated.
- Anthony
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If all you want is the launcher UI then a simple search will give you Touchwiz.
This is in no way uniform or a theme, but it is the Touchwiz User Interface Launcher, and as such should give you at least a taste of your Galaxy S craving.
There's also a few slight S based themes here and there. But I doubt you will see a Samsung rom ported to our phones, unless someone that truly likes it, much like yourself, decides to make it happen.
Hope that helps.
I made my own sort of Galaxy S theme. There are as smoothtaste said there are a few themes floating around here. I downloaded them all and made one from them using jaybob's BlackMod as a base. I would share but I did not include the boot animation, or the Galaxy S status bar. Below is a link to a Galaxy S launcher Pro theme, a good one too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821851&highlight=galaxy
I have puzzle pieces for answering the phone too
The status bar Icons were Galaxy S but I changed them...
is there an actual theme for aospMod?
cordell12 said:
I made my own sort of Galaxy S theme. There are as smoothtaste said there are a few themes floating around here. I downloaded them all and made one from them using jaybob's BlackMod as a base. I would share but I did not include the boot animation, or the Galaxy S status bar. Below is a link to a Galaxy S launcher Pro theme, a good one too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821851&highlight=galaxy
I have puzzle pieces for answering the phone too
The status bar Icons were Galaxy S but I changed them...
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i made this one for cm6.1
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i made this one for cm6.1
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This is the theme that got me hooked on Galaxy S look. I had trouble flashing the rom/theme though, it would never let me do the google set up from a clean install Thats why I set out to create my own. I merged parts of all there Galaxy S themes out there, then made my own status bar Yours I used the dark blue and puzzle pieces Thanks
swishersweedz420, would you mind posting just the flashable theme, without it merged into a rom? TY
Yeah I would love a exact port because I agree and think the touchwiz ui and lockscren and all
sent from one ba hero
I am relatively new to the whole android thing but after having acquired my Vibrant, when it first came out, i have grown tired of how slow it is due to samsungs cancerous coding. This makes me even more displeased when i see how fast my brothers Nexus One is compared to my phone. So i am wondering if the Nexus S would be an upgrade to my vibrant or if it still suffers from samsungs cancer.
Thanks in advance
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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Having owned both the nexus one and now the nexus s, the nexus s is just as quick. I believe Samsung's main issue is the filesystem (rfs if I recall correctly) they chose to use. This is not an issue with the nexus s as it uses ext4, an improvement over even the nexus one which was still using yaffs.
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I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
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I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
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Thanks!
I must admit that besides using the Flash as a flashlight and its "cool factor" i really dont care about it nor would i use it.
And then the front camera i have considered just modding onto my existing vibrant.
The near field thing i will never use and with our amazing devs the Vibrant is bound to get Gingerbread sooner rather then latter.
BUT the thing i really care about is its system speed and if it has, as our devs put it, "samsungs cancer code" in it, because after all the shiny new addons the OS speed is really my determining factor.
Who know, maybe just switching off Launcher pro will alleviate my lag.
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Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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CyanogenMod is using the stock kernel.. lol, if you want to see the differences of kernels. Try out Netarchy's 1.2.4 or Trinity, I personally use Netarchy. I dislike morfic's boot screens added ontop.
Voodoo sound and Voodoo color are amazing (they're features in kernels) you need the app to control them as well.
Vibrant & Galaxy 4G both run Froyo. Vibrant has official 4G + source released for it now, but it took way too long imo.
If ur gonna try netarchy, make sure its CM7 compatiable (it says it on download link). CFS or BFS, either shouldn't disappoint.
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I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
I just switched 2 days ago and so far I'm really happy. I sold my Vibrant to a friend and was able to get a Nexus for a price that didn't hurt too bad.
I have to admit that I was hesitant at first. I dislike how Samsung has handled the SGS line and was loathe to reward them by purchasing another one of their products. But after playing with the Nexus for a while I caved. Its the phone I wish the Vibrant had been on the first place. No RFS, no TouchWiz......Never going back to a non-stock Android phone again.
Performance wise it feels noticeably faster than the Vibrant. The build quality is better too. My Vibrant used to creak a little, but not this. I have made a few video calls and though I probably wont use it often it is nice to have the option. I love having a camera flash; I'm often out with friends at night. NFC should take off this year but right now I can't really say anything about it.
Mostly I bought it because the other phones ive seen coming out this year don't impress me too much. Dual core is awesome but until the software support is there it isn't going to do much. Guaranteed updates and CM support are great also. The 4 inch SAMOLED screen hits the sweet spot in my book as well.
Just remember, either way you'll have a nice phone. I enjoyed my Vibrant but at the end it just wasn't what I had hoped for. Good luck.
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ryan562 said:
x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
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Only thing I miss is video codecs. 720p playback lags on RockPlayer
RockPlayer handles everything else pretty well.
Overall, my opinion is that Nexus S > Vibrant. Wish it had SD though, not a deal breaker for me though.
Was just sick of the lack of CM7 support for SGS and constantly using lagfixes and unapplying them to flahs a new ROM.
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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P.S. don't call the Nexus S a SNS. Its NS. They didnt call the 'Nexus One' HN1/HNO (HTC Nexus One).
You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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Pyramid doesn't features Tegra 2. With a phone using tetra 2, you'll have access go tegra 2 zone.
Plus, its rumored that quad core phones will come out at the end of this year or early next.
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I agree with the lateral move. I like the hardware on the NS better than the Vibrant as I'm not into hardware modifications. I do prefer touchwiz apps to stock Google apps. I also prefer video codecs and 720p video recording over not having them either.
What I can tell you is that in terms of speed there are only a few things where I've noticed the Nexus is actually faster at, a quadrant benchmark because of jit, and usb connection speed. Side by side the tasks are almost identical, so much so that I can't tell the difference. My Nexus is running CM7 RC build #2 overclocked to 1.2Ghz and my Vibrant is running Bionix-V 1.2.1 with no overclock.
I have the luxury of being able to use either one whenever I want, so if I know I'm going to take a video I'm taking the Vibrant, and if I'm going on a trip and want to watch some movies on a plane ride I'm taking the Vibrant...every day use the Nexus is fine but it isn't an upgrade by any means.
In the end it's your choice so make sure if you do make the choice to change phones that you can live with it at least until someone makes some nice software modifications.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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+1
If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....TV-out, Gorilla Glass, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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If video playback of anything you can throw at it is important, or large amounts of removable sdcard storage, or even 720p recording, then the Vibrant is the clear choice. There are a significant number of media-related activities the Nexus S can't do, that the Vibrant can.
If a more solid build, with a sexier to look at and easier to hold in the hand shape, with the alleged promise of getting newer versions of Android first are important, then the Nexus S is the choice.
OP - you can easily vastly improve the Vibrant's performance with any of the custom ROMs are kernels that implement the voodoo hacks.
I've called the move from any of the existing Galaxy S variants to the Nexus S a "side-grade", it's definitely not a major "upgrade" unless you'll never run root or custom kernels (to fix the infamous "lag" of Samsung's RFS filesystem).
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Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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I am not a dev, but i am pretty positive that Vibrant with TW uses VIBRANT kernel, not i9000.....shouldn't you know this being from Team Wiskey ?
dont have poor battery life......after several cycles with new ROM, I am back to my usual which is 12-14 hours of use. RFS doesn't bother me anymore thanks to Voodoo. And as far as 2.3 vs 2.2 goes......its just a minor upgrade, not as big as 2.1 to 2.2.
at this point SNS is history already......its very clear that the phone was released to make quick cash....not much longer wait for S-II, LG 2X, and Pyramid....
development-wise points go to SNS......
kolyan said:
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If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Agreed, not even really a contest unless your just a blind fanboi like most people in this section.
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With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
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Vibrant source was released days ago and there are already three OC kernels out built from source.
I would say if you want to break it down, the NS is better as a pure phone/smartphone, whereas the SGS is a better media device. I would not sell my Vibrant because it's like an Android-based iPod Touch (but better).
just wondering how the STOCK droid bionic would compare to a rooted/GummyCharged 2.3.4 Droid Charge?
I know the Bionic is dual cpu, etc.. but my Droid Charge now feels VERY fast once I put GummyCharged 2.0 RC1.5 on it..
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just wondering how the STOCK droid bionic would compare to a rooted/GummyCharged 2.3.4 Droid Charge?
I know the Bionic is dual cpu, etc.. but my Droid Charge now feels VERY fast once I put GummyCharged 2.0 RC1.5 on it..
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Actual usage is subjective, but if you pay attention to benchmarks, the Bionic is reportedly getting 2900+ in Quadrant. Not having used a Bionic, I can't tell you my subjective opinion.
how about in terms of the way both phones are geared towards rooting/rom, etc...
I heard the Bionic has a locked bootloader.. not sure what that means.. but is that a pain to put a ROM on that phone?
also... how is the battery life and the screen compare between the two phones?
In a non scientific way. I held both, my Charge has Humble. The Charge was moving through screens faster. Opening and closing apps faster and overall felt smoother. I was not doing 3d gaming while on a call, while writing a text, while listening to music and watching a movie!! I for one have not seen the real world benefit to dual cpu's has it stands today, other than grossly exagerrated Quadrant scores. Just my humble opinion.
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how about in terms of the way both phones are geared towards rooting/rom, etc...
I heard the Bionic has a locked bootloader.. not sure what that means.. but is that a pain to put a ROM on that phone?
also... how is the battery life and the screen compare between the two phones?
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Moto's do have locked bootloaders that you have to unlock to do any serious hacking to them. It's not difficult to unlock them, but the biggest disadvantage is that once you do unlock it, you're done as far as warranty support goes...you'll never make it stock again. Motorola says their phone's are not for developers or hackers, and they enforce that through the bootloader.
I will assume battery life is a bit better on the Bionic...dual-core is typically easy on battery, and it has a 1750mAh battery, so it has more juice out of the box than the Charge.
Motorola screens blow in comparison to Samsung. Using a Samsung screen will ruin you to all other screens, but Moto is on the lower end of screen quality. There are reports of significant banding on the Bionic screen. Again, not having used one, I can't give you my own subjective opinions, but I can say what I've read about the Bionic and observed on other phones.
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In a non scientific way. I held both, my Charge has Humble. The Charge was moving through screens faster. Opening and closing apps faster and overall felt smoother. I was not doing 3d gaming while on a call, while writing a text, while listening to music and watching a movie!! I for one have not seen the real world benefit to dual cpu's has it stands today, other than grossly exagerrated Quadrant scores. Just my humble opinion.
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And this is the case in general. Until things are coded to take advantage of dual-core, there will be little advantage. Android 2.x in general doesn't use multiple cores well. 3.x does a lot better, but those changes aren't coming to phones until Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Moto's do have locked bootloaders that you have to unlock to do any serious hacking to them. It's not difficult to unlock them, but the biggest disadvantage is that once you do unlock it, you're done as far as warranty support goes...you'll never make it stock again. Motorola says their phone's are not for developers or hackers, and they enforce that through the bootloader.
I will assume battery life is a bit better on the Bionic...dual-core is typically easy on battery, and it has a 1750mAh battery, so it has more juice out of the box than the Charge.
Motorola screens blow in comparison to Samsung. Using a Samsung screen will ruin you to all other screens, but Moto is on the lower end of screen quality. There are reports of significant banding on the Bionic screen. Again, not having used one, I can't give you my own subjective opinions, but I can say what I've read about the Bionic and observed on other phones.
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And this is the case in general. Until things are coded to take advantage of dual-core, there will be little advantage. Android 2.x in general doesn't use multiple cores well. 3.x does a lot better, but those changes aren't coming to phones until Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Well said. that is when I will look to make the jump. But for now I am happy.
This belongs in the Q&A or General section, not the development section.
May want to review these to gain an understanding of where to post what:
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By the book. Should this not be in Q&A? Just saying.
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By the book. Should this not be in Q&A? Just saying.
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Nah, this is asking a general interest type of question, not a question asking how do I do this or how do I do that. Questions asking specific guidance, instructions, or help belong in Q & A.
The Charge feels quicker, smoother, and snappier because we have outstanding ROMs for it. I'm running the latest Gummy GBE on EP1W and that versus a stock Bionic there is no comparison. But once you start to add web browsing and gaming and video taking and watching in higher definitions then that's where the 2nd core comes into play. I guarantee you the Bionic would be better than the Charge if you removed VZW's garbage and had an AOSP stock GB ROM on it, pure Google. But then again, that's exactly what Gummy is plus some extra cool stuff.
my GummyCharged GBE 2.0 RC1.5 is smoking fast.. that's all I know.. phone is like an entirely new phone now that I got that crap stock verizon EE4 off the phone..
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The Charge feels quicker, smoother, and snappier because we have outstanding ROMs for it. I'm running the latest Gummy GBE on EP1W and that versus a stock Bionic there is no comparison. But once you start to add web browsing and gaming and video taking and watching in higher definitions then that's where the 2nd core comes into play. I guarantee you the Bionic would be better than the Charge if you removed VZW's garbage and had an AOSP stock GB ROM on it, pure Google. But then again, that's exactly what Gummy is plus some extra cool stuff.
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Umm no that's not exactly what gummy is. Gummy is touchwiz based like every other fully functional rom for this phone. Not putting you or teamgummy down at all as it is by far the best charge rom out there (opinion) but it most certainly is not aosp. It has aosp built apps and some extras like you said but at the core, its still touchwiz.
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Umm no that's not exactly what gummy is. Gummy is touchwiz based like every other fully functional rom for this phone. Not putting you or teamgummy down at all as it is by far the best charge rom out there (opinion) but it most certainly is not aosp. It has aosp built apps and some extras like you said but at the core, its still touchwiz.
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A lot of stuff is built from source and the launcher is AOSP. I mainly meant that what you see is mostly AOSP because a lot of people would rather have AOSP than VZW crap and not a whole lot of people are a fan of Touchwiz.
I actually think TouchWiz is pretty nice... I have a Viewsonic G tablet running the CyonGen 7 mod.. Gingerbread 2.3.4.. I think that is basically ALL AOSP... and I have to say.. I a much prefer the GummyCharged 2.0 RC1.5 Gingerbread 2.3.4 with TouchWiz that is on my Samsung Droid Charge now... so I guess the difference is the TouchWiz.. and I have to say I like the TouchWiz much better than whatever the CyonGen 7 Gingerbread is...
Both roms run smoking fast too!!!
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A lot of stuff is built from source and the launcher is AOSP. I mainly meant that what you see is mostly AOSP because a lot of people would rather have AOSP than VZW crap and not a whole lot of people are a fan of Touchwiz.
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motorola's handset division is now owned by google.. this means future phones will be PREPPED for development. google will be on the forefront of this battle.
with the said.. the bionic is a gimmick phone. i've played with a couple of them and the UI drives me nuts. dual core blah blah.. its still a 1g processor. its not going to be FASTER, but will be able to more effectively run high load programs and apps.
I'd quote the last 2 posters but I'm too lazy right now (partied hard last night).
But alien: I totally agree with you and I like Touchwiz too, not the Charge's Touchwiz launcher, so I use TW4 from the Galaxy S2 when I do use that launcher.
diablo: Agreed on the Moto Google and agreed on the Bionic, UI is garbage, boring processor, it can do browsing and programs and apps better but not a whole lot. Enter Ice Cream Sandwich which will be using dual core to its potential. Nexus Prime will CRUSH the Bionic.
Forgive me if i am mistaken but i am new to the NS4G(as im sure a few of u know) & did not see a Q&A for us but i have a question.
No disrespect but i come from Evo 4g & was curious Y there is very limited roms available for NS4G???
I've heard many a great reviews for the Nexus S but i have not seen any reason y??? My Evo was just as good, mayb even better compared to my now owned Nexus. Roms were a plenty, speed just as fast, better camera, etc...
Like i said i am new to the Nexus S 4g & still learning. But from my understanding the Nexus S was first???
I like the Nexus for its size, not as bulky, but whats size compared to usage?
I still have my Evo & consider giving my nexus to my wife for alot of reasons. I hear of this "so called" ICS update, but im sure the Evo will be sure to get it(rom)...
If u feel my opinion is wrong, PLEASE, feel free to share your thoughts.
Again I bring no disrespect just curiousity...
Thank you for your time & patience.
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Most phones with manufacturer skins (sense, blur, touchwiz) the ROM makers are striving to create AOSP ROMs. We as Nexus owners already have this. The ROMS you see are mainly tweaks to AOSP with the 2 main exceptions being CM7 and MIUI.
So we don't need the same amount as the other phones. Quality over quantity in these parts Hope that helped and answered your question
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Most phones with manufacturer skins (sense, blur, touchwiz) the ROM makers are striving to create AOSP ROMs. We as Nexus owners already have this. The ROMS you see are mainly tweaks to AOSP with the 2 main exceptions being CM7 and MIUI.
So we don't need the same amount as the other phones. Quality over quantity in these parts Hope that helped and answered your question
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Here's a good question, I'm sure its been asked many times and ill probably answer it myself, but I'm looking to get the ns4g soon. Can the ns4g run any roms in the ns development section or no because of the difference between the internation and us radios?
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Here's a good question, I'm sure its been asked many times and ill probably answer it myself, but I'm looking to get the ns4g soon. Can the ns4g run any roms in the ns development section or no because of the difference between the internation and us radios?
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The NS4G only runs NS4G ROMS.
NYYFan325 said:
Most phones with manufacturer skins (sense, blur, touchwiz) the ROM makers are striving to create AOSP ROMs. We as Nexus owners already have this. The ROMS you see are mainly tweaks to AOSP with the 2 main exceptions being CM7 and MIUI.
So we don't need the same amount as the other phones. Quality over quantity in these parts Hope that helped and answered your question
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So... no 3. 0, 3. 5,sense, rosie, 3d widgets, etc...???
I know these are mainly "looks" but isnt that what phones are for???
"Look what my phone can do??? "
Yea we got "wallet" but REALLY???
So if we are "aosp" shouldnt we be able to do this(tweaks)???
No disrespect but like i said earlier, my evo did everything...
My nexus does 60% of this... (unless i am mistaken???)
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Well I had an evo for a year and just got the nexus several months ago and I can say I would never go back. Here's my list of reasons:
1. The screen. I used to be a huge HTC fan, but after using a super amoled screen I don't think I could go back to an LCD. The blacks are so deep, contrast is great and color saturation is amazing.
2. The amount of ROM available is a huge deal for me. On a sense ROM I was lucky to have 200-300mb free for apps. The best I could do was with cyanogen @ 500mb. With my nexus I have about 1gb free space and I don't have to manage what apps I have installed (I usually have 160+ apps installed).
3. Graphics. The two phones might look the same on paper, but they are very different. The nexus is way better at playing 3d games than the evo. If you look in the market you will see the majority of gameloft games are not available for the evo, but they are all available for the nexus. Another example is my n64 emulator. On my evo games like star fox and banjo kazooie would be choppy and slow. They run very smooth on my nexus.
4. The camera is better on the nexus. Yes the evo might be 8mp, but its not about mp's its about the optics. The optics on the evo suck. My pictures were always grainy, and the colors were always washed out. Whereas the pictures on my nexus are smooth and have better contrast and color representation. Yes the camera on the nexus is not omg amazing but its way better than the evo (although I do wish the stock camera had touch to focus).
BUT there are some cons...
1. There is no HTC sense. I don't know what everyone means when they say vanilla android is better, it isn't.
The stock dialer sucks, no t9 dialing. The stock messaging app is ugly.
The stock launcher is crap (I have to load launcher pro just to make it useful)
Lack of any useful Widgets (no Facebook/friend stream, no calendar-the stock one is ugly, no useful clock)
The stock keyboard is okay, the sense one is way better.
The lock screen is useless (sense gives you a preview of your notifications)
Yeah I can, and have found apps and Widgets to fix most of my complaints dialer2, handcent, launcher pro, simple calendar, fancy Widgets, widget locker. But my point is that I shouldn't need too if stock android was so much better. Plus all those extra apps bog down the system and use up a lot of ram which leads me to my next point.
2. Lack of RAM. Yes the nexus has superior graphics performance, but that's because the GPU uses a lot of the RAM up, they should have put in a little more to compensate for it.
But despite my complaints, I'd still never switch back to my evo.
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treezy26 said:
So... no 3. 0, 3. 5,sense, rosie, 3d widgets, etc...???
I know these are mainly "looks" but isnt that what phones are for???
"Look what my phone can do??? "
Yea we got "wallet" but REALLY???
So if we are "aosp" shouldnt we be able to do this(tweaks)???
No disrespect but like i said earlier, my evo did everything...
My nexus does 60% of this... (unless i am mistaken???)
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App
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The Nexus S is guaranteed to be first (or at least in the first group) to receive an OS update with fully functioning roms like CM pretty quickly after, so all the ICS eye candy (and jellybean later and so on) will be on the NS first.
You can't compare sense to aosp. Oranges & apples. Sense roms use sense frameworks. If those phones were aosp phones, it would be exactly the same. Also the evo has 2 years of development behind it. Most of those roms are in the same boat. Pretty much you can either have an aosp rom , an aosp based rom, a sense rom or a modded sense rom, or a miui rom.
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What's this jellybean u speak of?
snandlal said:
What's this jellybean u speak of?
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Following the naming system J is the next letter and Jellybean is generally agreed to be a suitable code name until we have more info.
Thanks again for everyones input. I am starting to enjoy my nexus s. It gets the job done.
As of now i am rockin CM7.1.0.1 Red ginger theme & minimalist red ADW theme. Looks awesome. Speeds are good, looks good, what else do i need? (wink wink) lol
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snip, thread moved to general.
I think the dev community will pick up some with the impending GB release, but I don't know if it will ever match that of the Inspire's. My girl has that phone, it is a great device. Huge fan of Virtuous Unity. But the Infuse is lighter and sleeker and the display is brilliant.
I have had no issues with GPS on my phone with certain roms, not always perfect though. Some roms are better than others when it comes to the GPS.
The filesystem that Samsung uses is RFS, don't know much about it but most custom kernels convert it to ext4 (voodoo lagfix)
We have less devs, but we are lucky in the fact that the few we have are quite good.
There are some BT issues because we use a not very well known chip I believe? But I am currently running CM7 and after being properly tweaked it runs very well.
Very happy with the Infuse and will have it for quite a while!
I dont see any question...
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