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[Q] Completely Non-functional GPS - Help Needed!

Hey guys, I just got my Captivate during Black Friday, and the GPS was working pretty well in the stock ROM.
It's now running Axura CE RC1 with the RedSoul theme, and I noticed that the GPS doesn't work at all. The Samsung GPSRestoreApp keeps failing to get a position fix, and although I tried a whole bunch of GPS fixes, my phone doesn't get a position fix at all, even if I leave the GPSTest app running for more than 10 minutes.
Is there anything I can do to get a working position fix?
Please help me out, and thanks in advance!

Try a differnet rom, Axura is dead anyway. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848671

cappysw10 said:
Try a differnet rom, Axura is dead anyway. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848671
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actually axura has returned from the dead.
for whats its worth i experienced nearly the opposite.
With stock i generally got decent locks (seeing 9-12 sats and usually locking 6-7). Tracking was useless and did not work other than following a straight line and it was often pathetic in even tracking straight line position/progress.
Axura 5 is the only rom that has improved my devices tracking/turn by turn navigation to a usable and actually pretty damn good state (also improved my locks....could still usually see 9-12 but was usually getting 10/10 or 9/10 consistent locks). Right now i am back on stock jh7 though...had done so preparing for the official froyo release to at least take it for a test drive. Have it set up pretty much how i wanted and alot of apps so i am gonna hold out for a bit before flashing back to a custom but if i do axura will be on my list of choices due to the gps performance i got with it.

You can look for the file GPSJM9.zip on the XDA forum, I applied on my Captivate and since then my GPS works fine (10 sec for a lock)

Flash with CWM

Thanks for the zip, i'll try flash it when i have time

[Q] Experiences with the Rogers Canada Captivate?

Hey all, first post here. Currently I'm interested in the Rogers Galaxy S Captivate (seem to be a million different versions of the galaxy which is quite confusing). Beyond a few basic reviews/unboxings I can't really find much information on this phone. Without doing a long drawn out post I'll cut to my questions quick (I apologize if I'm posting this in the wrong forum and the noobish questions):
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
Thanks ahead of time.

1) random shutdown issue with one of my phones. GPS problem with second. Third was fine (GPS/no shutdowns) but the build is "creaky". GPS is really fast and accurate and no problems. Battery lasts decent, depends how much you have the screen on for. Right now I can last 4 hours on idle with wifi/3G on and lose maybe 1%. Of course, nothing is really going on.
2-4 No clue yet. Haven't flashed. Kind of waiting for Froyo release from Rogers.

bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.

Wifi tethering was in stock rom just so you know. Go into wifi settings

I think you should be okay since you're getting it much later than most other people... I think I'm included as well. I had the shutdown problem but a factory reset fixed it, so I think it was just a software issue on my end. GPS is still spotty, works great and accurately but sometimes doesn't. I also have the slight problem with search popping up randomly, but I am not too bothered by that.
Otherwise it's fine, I love this phone. Everyone is so intrigued when I pull it out.

xnoctis93 said:
bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.
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Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.

desmopilot said:
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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In general, the phone is really quite good. The Rogers stock GPS doesn't have the issues that the AT&T GPS appears to have, but the modem is HSDPA not HSUPA so upload speed is limited to around 300-400 Kbps and download is limited to around 5Mbps max). Rogers also don't put on a load of bloatware which is really quite nice. Stock Rogers phone even comes with tethering enabled (USB or WiFi using MyAP). With my phone I can't really say I had any "Hates"..a few minor annoyances, such as
- the contact groups (in stock) never syncs the Google Groups
- the calendar app has no "conference call" option, I had this on my OpenEtna phone
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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No official Froyo support as yet. Rogers saying early 2011. Froyo is only available in custom ROMs based on a leaked ROM and now also based on the GT-i9000 (e.g. Galaxy S "Vibrant" from Bell...as well as some stuff from the Telus "Fascinate" too), as there are official Froyo builds for that (which are not without their own problems too).
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- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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Very easy, particularly from rogers as they have not prevented you from loading software in any way, so you can simply download z4root or oclf or the like, directly to your phone from it's browser and run it locally to root your phone. There are a few ways to install the ROMs but they are mostly detailed in their own announcement threads and pretty much cover the bases. There is also a ROM installer HowTo in the QnA or Question section of the Samsung Captivate forum.
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
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Almost all ROMs yes...and also in Rogers stock.
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Thanks ahead of time.[/QUOTE]

desmopilot said:
Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.
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All of the ROMs that the Chefs put out are really quite good. It mostly comes dow to a personal preference. One thing to be aware of is the ROM limitations. These are usually listed in their announce thread too:
Note that if you want HSUPA (up to 5.6 Mbps up/7.4 Mbps down) then you need one of the i9000 based modems. You can often put different modems from different ROMs into your own phone, but there are some limitations. The modem should come from the same build (e.g. don't put a 2.1 modem in a 2.2 ROM), some modems are HSDPA only (e.g. the Rogers and AT&T based ones) and that the modem bin is used for more than modem processing, it appears to be used in DSP so it affects that voice call handling. With some modems as a result, you may not be heard on a voice call..so test. It's not to big a deal as you can easily swap out a modem for another.
Cogntion and Perception are ROMs both by DesignGears. I liked them both but couldn't get the combination of features I wanted (which they NOW have) and I couldn't get hold of DesignGears to provide me with his set-up for compiling the kernal (one of the few chefs that compiles his own kernels...most use kernels from other people). To my thinking Perception is more "active" than Cognition leading to cognition being (considered by some) more stable...but it's just a matter of preference. I think that Cognition is not capable of HSUPA but Perception is...though withough checking I may have that the wrong way around.
Axura 2.5 is what I am currently running, though there will be no more development on the "old" Axura because AdamHolden, the latest Axura chef received too many negative comments for his liking and quit. He is starting a new ROM with a team rather than as an individual (see here).
I hear good comments about Assonance, but haven't tried it since using Axura as it fit all my needs.
There are also many others. Just take a browse through the "Captivate Android Development" forum and you will see a number of [ROM] threads. Take a quick read of atleast the first 3-4 posts on the thread as those are used to identify the current version, features, state and issues.

desmopilot said:
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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I love my SGS. Feels very snappy with some tweaking and a different launcher, battery life is 24-48 hours with average usage (again with some settings tweaks). No GPS or Shutdown issues on my side and I bought the phone when it was first available. A few people at my work have the phone and I've heard no issues with it at all. One tiny issue I have seen is that some texts seem to come in with an incorrect time stamp. They seem to be about 5 hours off. This can be easily fixed with a simple app so I don't even think about it anymore.
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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As has been mentioned before, no Froyo yet but that's pretty standard for Rogers. On the plus side there is a Gingerbread ROM being made which looks very sexy in the I9000 forums by supercurio and others.
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- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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I rooted my phone in a matter of minutes with z4 root, very simple, one click. I have tried to lag fix my device using oclf but it failed. I know it's not the phone though since a friend of mine has the same phone and his works great. If you like quadrant stats, he's right up there. I personally haven't used any ROM's yet but I will be in the near future. From what I can see there are a lot of ROM's available and it seems like a pretty simple process.
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Haven't bothered, I don't need it so I don't know.
I definitely recommend this phone

No issues for a (relatively) simple user that just wants froyo. Love how un-branded rogers left this phone compared to my SE dumbphones and whatnot.
Never tried thethering (as i have no idea how much data i have left)
GPS Test gets a lock within 15 or so seconds with 50ft accuracy (lowers down to around 30 after a bit)
I think i had one of the newer batches (purchased from corporate - early December)

Thanks a lot for the replies all! Looks like i'll be hopping one the Captivate wagon pretty soon.

nevermind, my mistake.

The Captivate is amazing with Rogers, my wife and I both have one and they are fast, solid build, and just a joy to use.
If you want to see a video of mine, just search on youtube "gunstar1981"
Its a really great phone, hope you get yours soon!

What a great phone.

Coming from Captivate, the inspire Is like the best phone I have ever used. So smooth and snappy. Everything just works, especially GPS. Even stock rom with all the att bloatware was great.
Can't explain the performance. the specs are pretty similar btw the two phones. my captivate could slow down even with the best roms.
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gordec said:
Coming from Captivate, the inspire Is like the best phone I have ever used. So smooth and snappy. Everything just works, especially GPS. Even stock rom with all the att bloatware was great.
Can't explain the performance. the specs are pretty similar btw the two phones. my captivate could slow down even with the best roms.
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+1 I love my Inspire so much. I'm staying strictly full original with mine. This machine is just a pure gorgeous pleasure to use. There's something to say about grabbing ahold of cold metal. It just feels significant. The same goes for the lowly HTC Freestyle, which I looked at in the store. It also is made from metal.

I too am a big fan of the phone. This was the big winner in my Atrix vs Inspire shootout. There's a thread about it.
One of my main issues was the battery life. That was a real sticking point for me on the Inspire. However, after switching to Leedroid's rom with SetCPU on the default (smartass) setting, I'm currently at 45 hours with 4 hours of awake time, and 30% of my battery left... It's ridiculous.

I'm on revolution 3.3. I wonder if set cpu works also. I'm getting full day of average use without an issue right now with stock.
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I think that depends on if they used an OC kernel. LeeDroid explains explicitly that he developed several presets for SetCPU for different situations.

gordec said:
Coming from Captivate, the inspire Is like the best phone I have ever used. So smooth and snappy. Everything just works, especially GPS. Even stock rom with all the att bloatware was great.
Can't explain the performance. the specs are pretty similar btw the two phones. my captivate could slow down even with the best roms.
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While they are similar spec wise, the performance of this phone is faaaar better. Here's my Quadrant on one of the CM7 Nightlies.
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I love this phone!! Seriously, the best phone I've owned to date and exactly what I was looking for. Super fast and very responsive.. not one single complaint here(other then speaker volume, but I'll live )

jmichael15 said:
I love this phone!! Seriously, the best phone I've owned to date and exactly what I was looking for. Super fast and very responsive.. not one single complaint here(other then speaker volume, but I'll live )
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I had some concerns about the speaker volume also. But they've alleviated because all stock Inspires do it. It's something to do with an automatic control where the volume is initially low and then progressively gets louder as any sound remains going. I can live with it also, since I know it's a common thing and not a fault in my specific unit.
Beyond this, I would say this is the utmost flagship model for Android. There's something to be said about the cold feel of metal which these are made of. It just seems significant. I wish the other companies would get in on the metal uni-body design.

Odd, I love my Inspire, but the one problem I do have is the GPS. I can rarely get locks, regardless of radio or ROM. Have found no fix for this unfortunately

Billabong81 said:
Odd, I love my Inspire, but the one problem I do have is the GPS. I can rarely get locks, regardless of radio or ROM. Have found no fix for this unfortunately
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I would get it replaced. Mine is perfect on stock and with Revolution 3.3.
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Yeah... I've used 3 different roms, aside from stock, and my GPS has worked perfectly with each.

Billabong81 said:
Odd, I love my Inspire, but the one problem I do have is the GPS. I can rarely get locks, regardless of radio or ROM. Have found no fix for this unfortunately
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Sorry to hear! I've messed around with the GPS since I've had it and I haven't had any big issues with it. What impresses me even more is that even with GPS disabled and network location on, it shows a spot within 5-15ft from me!! Almost dead on exact without GPS on lol, I love this phone!!!!

GPS has been hit or miss on depending on rom. MIUI, shoshkai (sp?), dillagif 0.1 only (sp?), and now cognition 1.0.1. All of the others haven't worked so well in terms of GPS.

So I've had approximate 5 Captivates since last July and thinking about getting AT&T to let me switch phones since I've had so many problems.. Tech support said, and I quote "Yeah we've had a lot of problems with these phones, and I'm hoping the S2 can save face for Samsung" - NICE!
Fellow Captivate owners - Is the Inspire the one to go with over the Atrix?
From what it looks like, the pros over the Captivate are:
1. GPS works
2. LED Flash (thought I wasn't going to need this until the phone became my main camera)
The "cons"
1. Not AMOLED, but still a nice display
Anything else? Looks like you can still use custom ROM's on the Inspire..
How is stock battery life on the Inspire (without all the fancy shmancy things running (live wallpaper/facebook widgets, etc) ) ?

How many people are running 2 2 1 with EP1Q radio

I ask this question because I'm running gummy Fe 2.0 with the EP1Q and I'm wondering if i switch back to ee4 radio if ill notice a difference at all
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I'm running gummy 2.0 with the EP1Q radio. No problems whatsoever.
The rom is independent from the modem from what I understand and I have been getting better service with this radio.

I just downloaded the EPQ1 radios yesterday as i was having some troubles with the 4g dropping and have had great signal so far. I will keep an eye on it and report back in a week. Of the phone calls I've made today, all were crystal clear and good volume so fingers are crossed that my problems are solved.

For me, there wasn't much of a difference
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It was better at holding the 4g signal but nothing else has been too noticeable. Still better then ee4, that **** switches between 3g/4g every 10 minutes.

I've been running gummy 2.0 with the epq1 with no problem at all
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I'm running gummy 1.9.1 with the EP1Q and it works fine but I hardly noticed any difference at all from the switch.
~John

Who says EP1Q is trouble some, Im loving it. I have been running since I was on 1.9, no voice issues either
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I have never hit speeds like this on EE4, ever. Not to mention 4G is more consistent with much less searching

well my issue is that i've been experiencing data drop out like crazy sometimes and ive read of other people experiencing the same issue. i think i'll just reflash the EP1Q radio and see if that helps

For me, EP1Q modem has less data dropouts (4G->3G-1X) for me. Also, if it changes, the transition is fast.

I can also vouch for EP1Q, the data stream is definitely more stable in general, though I haven't really noticed any considerable speed improvements.

I only had the signal totally drop out on me once on EP1Q this past weekend but it quickly came back. Then again, they have said that they sent one of those roving techs to check my area and they have admitted my area needs a tower but they need to get approval from the higher-ups to install one.
Apparently Verizon has been doing a lot of work in my area according to some press release in which they are expanding 4G coverage in my area. They say that by Sept. 15th I should be seeing 4G in more places across my city. All I can say is that I'm happy to see that.
Oh, and I'm glad I have unlimited data since I've noticed that doing any kind of streaming anything, especially NetFlix can eat through data like nothing I've ever seen. That and Slacker Radio can cause you to eat data.

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Who says EP1Q is trouble some, Im loving it. I have been running since I was on 1.9, no voice issues either
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I have never hit speeds like this on EE4, ever. Not to mention 4G is more consistent with much less searching
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I thought the GB leak modems weren't accurate with speed tests? Or was that just the leak itself. Also....
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I'm running gummy 1.9.1 with the EP1Q and it works fine but I hardly noticed any difference at all from the switch.
~John
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WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!

blarrick said:
I thought the GB leak modems weren't accurate with speed tests? Or was that just the leak itself. Also....
WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!
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Yeah the GB modems just didn't play well with the speedtest app itself.
However, going to the speakeasy speedtest site via your browser produces accurate results.

What is the baseband name for ep1q modems? I flahsed the q modems but my baseband version stayed the same. Either the flash didn't take or I already had them. Im on gummy2.0
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blarrick said:
WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!
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I thought about it, but my system runs perfectly and after looking at what 2.0 gives you I don't really see anything I care about.
I could care less about 7 different lock screens, I did the tweak to totally eliminate the lock screen. I tried the imoseon kernel briefly, but I kinda prefer the more saturated colors and ended up swapping back.
I think over clocking is a waste of time after trying it for a while, so unless I am missing something I don't really see what I would gain from the 2.0 swap although I am certainly open to suggestions??
~John

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I thought about it, but my system runs perfectly and after looking at what 2.0 gives you I don't really see anything I care about.
I could care less about 7 different lock screens, I did the tweak to totally eliminate the lock screen. I tried the imoseon kernel briefly, but I kinda prefer the more saturated colors and ended up swapping back.
I think over clocking is a waste of time after trying it for a while, so unless I am missing something I don't really see what I would gain from the 2.0 swap although I am certainly open to suggestions??
~John
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its just more polished and stable.

msticlaru said:
its just more polished and stable.
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I'm not sure how it could be any more stable than my system. Mine runs weeks at a time without a single freezeup or reboot if I want.
When you say it is "more polished", are you just talking about visual tweaks??
I must have changed ROMs 50 times when I had a TouchPro 2 and every time it was a noticeable improvement so I'm not opposed to switching for a good reason. My system now runs so well however, I don't really see any compelling reason to update just because a new version is out.
~John

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I'm not sure how it could be any more stable than my system. Mine runs weeks at a time without a single freezeup or reboot if I want.
When you say it is "more polished", are you just talking about visual tweaks??
I must have changed ROMs 50 times when I had a TouchPro 2 and every time it was a noticeable improvement so I'm not opposed to switching for a good reason. My system now runs so well however, I don't really see any compelling reason to update just because a new version is out.
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While there is no need to convince you as people can choose to run whatever version of whatever rom they want, I find it curious that you would choose to not update. It seems to me that the type of people that generally visit these forums and mess with their devices are the same type of people that generally want things when they are updated.
That aside...
1.9.1
*Fixed misc theme issues across the overall theme
*Removed AM/PM from the status-bar clock
2.0
*Custom kernel by IMoseyON
*TSMparts for modifications (more information below on usage)
*updated toolbox for simplicity (sorry no GUI 2.0 released at this time)
*updated base Theme (we did switch to a blue to give 2.0 a new look as it feels like a new rom)
*updated dialer completely remade to have the contacts built into the app
The updated kernel provides additional stability fixes and fluidity to the UI.
TSM parts is a very handy tool to have.
the update to the base theme gives the phone a more professional feel to it. (i.e. polish) the dialer is vastly better than the pervious.
Again, if you choose not to update, so be it. I could not care less one way or the other. You seem like an intelligent person, so you would know best what works for you.
To get this thread back on topic....
I am running the ep1q radios but as I mentioned earlier, I cant seem to find how to determine what version you are actually running. My Baseband version did not change when i updated the radios. I would like to say I am getting better performance.. but its hard to know if its the radios, or something else.
Any chance that one of you knows how to determine the radio that is installed?

msticlaru said:
While there is no need to convince you as people can choose to run whatever version of whatever rom they want, I find it curious that you would choose to not update. It seems to me that the type of people that generally visit these forums and mess with their devices are the same type of people that generally want things when they are updated
Again, if you choose not to update, so be it. I could not care less one way or the other. You seem like an intelligent person, so you would know best what works for you.
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Actually, I'm usually as you say the kind of person that immediately updates everything as soon as possible. My system runs so well however, I just wasn't sure it was worth going through the PITA of setting up the whole system again.
Now, after reading your post however I may have to rethink that. If the system really will run better/more efficiently etc. I guess you have me getting the itch to update again.... ;-)
It seems like I have been working a million hours a week lately (I'm an IT Administrator among other things) but if/when I ever get some spare time I guess I will just get to it and update."....
~John

Advice after personal experience

I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
And that is your personal expierence about cm10 8/8...I got a GPS lock in less then a minute...and I have 0 lag
Imho opinion this thread is pointless...it clearly states in ops what doesnt work-just go back to froyo...its obvious that's what you want
Btw...wasn't trying to be rude...just stating my opinion
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mg2195 said:
Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
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I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !

My one and a half cent:
IMHO For most people rooting and flashing is probably something they should not do. All they want is a functional phone that does phone things: text, make calls, check Facebook, etc. That is exactly what they get when their phone comes out of the box. That's great and awesome: don't worry, be happy.
There are others "hackers" or not, who like to tinker, figure out how things work, "try" and get them to work more efficiently, or "better". This includes those who are not as technical as the devs but are willing to help, test and report.
These people who are ready and willing to live with the fact that their expensive functional phone may end up as an expensive piece of plastic and metal...well root and flash away.
But to complain that your phone is worse after using someones hardwork and effort is pointless. Report problems yes...complain...not cool.
These boards are filled with complaints and cries for help from people who probably should have stuck with the phone they got from the store and just been happy. Rooting is not for everyone.
Peace
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bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
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Blasphemer! Heinous! Stone him!!
You don't like ways to break your phone?
You don't like to learn how to add a new APN?
You don't want to downgrade your 720p video to 480p?
- joking.
In several aspects, I agree with you re: FROYO. The Froyo phone does what it is suppose to do. Great cam/vid; GPS, mms and call. If you're not dying the the latest, it runs just fine. Froyo doesn't support Gtalk Video
I'm not sure about your experience with GB though. I've not seen the lags, freezes and reboots on the official firmware.
The main thing I recall from official GB is make sure you install it without a microSD in place and after it is installed, copy off all your stuff from the internal SDcard and do a factory reset under /setting/privacy.
Here a froyo treat for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25526638&postcount=1
In December 2011, I wrote this thread. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. If you reflect on it, you may like the practical points I was making.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397287

Forget, Froy, GB, ICS, JB...
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qkster said:
Blasphemer! Heinous! Stone him!!
You don't like ways to break your phone?
You don't like to learn how to add a new APN?
You don't want to downgrade your 720p video to 480p?
- joking.
In several aspects, I agree with you re: FROYO. The Froyo phone does what it is suppose to do. Great cam/vid; GPS, mms and call. If you're not dying the the latest, it runs just fine. Froyo doesn't support Gtalk Video
I'm not sure about your experience with GB though. I've not seen the lags, freezes and reboots on the official firmware.
The main thing I recall from official GB is make sure you install it without a microSD in place and after it is installed, copy off all your stuff from the internal SDcard and do a factory reset under /setting/privacy.
Here a froyo treat for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25526638&postcount=1
In December 2011, I wrote this thread. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. If you reflect on it, you may like the practical points I was making.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397287
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qkster that thread was Awesome! I had never read that before...hilarious
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Okay so maybe ICS and JB are not for you.. but what about GB ROMs like Emancipation and Aeon? Have you given them a try?
Stock is okay but it has too much room for improvement and that's where our brilliant devs come in. Believe in them and in their work. They are not here to turn phones into robots that will lead us to our doom
Sent from my sweet and buttery Infuse

bigjoe2675 said:
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Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:

PoXFreak said:
Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:
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Wat?!?
Bigjoe slowly walking away....now running....gone....

bilihor said:
I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !
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Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
All these people want, in essence, is a phone with the newest available software... that works. Thats why there is always someone working on some problem or "bug", trying and (99.9% of the time) succeeding. Sometimes we fail, but there is always someone else willing to pick up where we left off.
One reason I enjoy playing with firmware...; the challenge. I've always been one to take it apart and somehow make it better, regardless of what it is. A car, a radio, a computer... whatever.
On a side note, maybe reflashing your firmware will fix the issues your having with your Infuse now?

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.... thought I read somewhere that pornographic images are not allowed on xda... :silly:

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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IDK, maybe you got the initial, buggy, official GB update? I jumped ship and flashed Zeus long before that. And it ran smoother and I got better battery life with it than stock Froyo.
And it's pretty clearly written in each thread what is being seen by folks using the ROMs. For the CM10 build, It's pretty well known that GPS had issues until 8/8. It's posted clearly that several folks had issues with trebuchet lagging, so they loaded an alternate launcher and got better results. It's posted that wifi hotspot doesn't work with WPA or WPA2 with the bcrmhd driver (think that's the specific driver) and disabling security will allow it to work.
I know there are 200+ pages on some of these ROM threads, and many of the posts are 'me too' 'OMG this is so cool' or 'WTF? Read the OP'. But there are useful nuggets of information in there, especially the OP, and you really need to read them all to know what you might see with that ROM, or at least to know 'oh, I'm not the only one with that problem, and here's how they fixed it.'
In short, don't be ready to jump to a ROM that's only been out a short time until you know that either the bugs are fixed or you can live with the bugs that have been reported. Believe it or not, there IS a reason it takes time for official updates to roll out too, and it's not just to piss everyone off.

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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.... my current rig
may consider an upgrade if the holiday deals are just right....
...only 11 more payments to bigjoe and she'll be all mine.

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)

bilihor said:
fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)
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Yes...turbo pascal...I remember turbo pascal...or actually forgot turbo pascal. I couldn't code in that anymore to save my life
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Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
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PoXFreak said:
Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
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Bunch of old farts in here...soon someone is gonna bust out old punchcards or even an abacus
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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I saw this in my great grandfather's office.
I'm not sure what it is.
I first PC was an Intel i7 quadcore 8gb RAM and 2tb drive.