Pulled this off the Engadget site, just in case others began to see issues with GPS like I have today.
"Don't panic, but anyone planning on using GPS in the southeastern US for the next month or so will likely want to make sure they have a fallback option. That's according to a flight advisory just issued by the FAA, which warns pilots that their GPS signal "may be unreliable or unavailable" due to "GPS tests" that the Department of Defense will be conducting between January 20th and February 22nd. Details are fairly light beyond that, but the FAA does note that when the "tests" occur they will be active for 45 minutes, and be followed by 15 minutes of off time -- additional notices to pilots will apparently be issued at least 24 hours prior to any test. Of course, while this particular advisory is directed at pilots, it will presumably will also affect all other GPS devices, as the FAA doesn't mention any GPS issues specific to aviation."
Link to PDF below.
https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2011/Jan/GPS_Flight_Advisory_CSFTL11-01_Rel.pdf
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Pulled this off the Engadget site, just in case others began to see issues with GPS like I have today.
"Don't panic, but anyone planning on using GPS in the southeastern US for the next month or so will likely want to make sure they have a fallback option. That's according to a flight advisory just issued by the FAA, which warns pilots that their GPS signal "may be unreliable or unavailable" due to "GPS tests" that the Department of Defense will be conducting between January 20th and February 22nd. Details are fairly light beyond that, but the FAA does note that when the "tests" occur they will be active for 45 minutes, and be followed by 15 minutes of off time -- additional notices to pilots will apparently be issued at least 24 hours prior to any test. Of course, while this particular advisory is directed at pilots, it will presumably will also affect all other GPS devices, as the FAA doesn't mention any GPS issues specific to aviation."
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https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2011/Jan/GPS_Flight_Advisory_CSFTL11-01_Rel.pdf
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LMAO ... The last group of people in the world to be affected by this would be captivate owners.
"symptoms may include; long lock times, eractic position markers, 10 mile lock radius, and random shutdowns."
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LMAO ... The last group of people in the world to be affected by this would be captivate owners.
"symptoms may include; long lock times, eractic position markers, 10 mile lock radius, and random shutdowns."
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You sure they haven't been doing this since mid july in the midwest ;-D
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Clienterror said:
You sure they haven't been doing this since mid july in the midwest ;-D
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On a side note, you think this will affect global warming too?
Call me cynical but I don't see this being a good thing. DOD shutting down the gps. I'm waiting for breaking news to cut into judge judy any second.
Good thing this doesn't apply to Captivate owners.
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On a side note, you think this will affect global warming too?
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In the same way it will affect the Boogey Man and Big Foot.
Shovelhead84 said:
LMAO ... The last group of people in the world to be affected by this would be captivate owners.
"symptoms may include; long lock times, eractic position markers, 10 mile lock radius, and random shutdowns."
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Actually, you should have said Captivate owners would be the last group to notice any difference.
It says... GPS signal "may be unreliable or unavailable"
Well atleast others get a chance to experience what we go through everyday!
Since updating the modem to JK4 the GPS in my cappy is working perfectly with locks in a few seconds even indoors.
I guess Samsung has enough influence to get the DOD to update the GPS system so it will work with the Captivate.
And some of you were bashing Samsung...
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I guess Samsung has enough influence to get the DOD to update the GPS system so it will work with the Captivate.
And some of you were bashing Samsung...
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ROTFLOL Oh stop it.. my tummy hurts now...
Thanks for posting this, I am not only a Cappy owner but a "geocacher" as well. And for you worried about our gps on the captivate, try out the new FireFly Rom on this site, gps works great. Connects quickly, great Rom by Adam.
My GPS has been great, but it's **** at the moment. I hope this is the cause.
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It says... GPS signal "may be unreliable or unavailable"
Well atleast others get a chance to experience what we go through everyday!
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maybe your using the wrong modem/rom combo.
i am having no issues with firefly (rogers base) or phoenix (i9000 base) + jk4 modem in midwest (build 1007).
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Call me cynical but I don't see this being a good thing. DOD shutting down the gps. I'm waiting for breaking news to cut into judge judy any second.
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Considering that the US Government owns all current GPS satellites world wide (and they are operated by the DoD), we should all be grateful that we have free use of the GPS satellites. If the DoD wants to do upgrades or testing, there is not much anyone can do about it.
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Considering that the US Government owns all current GPS satellites world wide (and they are operated by the DoD), we should all be grateful that we have free use of the GPS satellites. If the DoD wants to do upgrades or testing, there is not much anyone can do about it.
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Agreed thanks darpa.
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Considering that the US Government owns all current GPS satellites world wide (and they are operated by the DoD), we should all be grateful that we have free use of the GPS satellites. If the DoD wants to do upgrades or testing, there is not much anyone can do about it.
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Is that a fact? Worldwide?
fldude99 said:
Is that a fact? Worldwide?
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Yes. The worldwide GPS system is owned by the US government and operated and maintained by the DoD. Who else can afford billions to put satellites in the sky and then let everyone use them for free? If you don't believe me, perform a quick google search.
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Yes. The worldwide GPS system is owned by the US government and operated and maintained by the DoD. Who else can afford billions to put satellites in the sky and then let everyone use them for free? If you don't believe me, perform a quick google search.
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This despicable act of socialism must not go unpunished.
You never know, this might actually in some way, some how, FIX our GPS's lol
Like everyone said, sure as hell can't hurt leveling the rest of the field!
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latitude, the new google services to know where your frineds are say we will have a new update soon that will include maps v3.0.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=136640
"- Android-powered devices with Maps v3.0 and above. G1 users in the US will be receiving Maps v3.0 in a system update soon. "
is the RC33 include maps 3.0, or they are talking about "CUPCAKE" ??
personally i think that rc33 was sent because of the option to check for updates manually. that leads to the conclusion that google is the one responsible for the updates. which leads to the conclusion that there might be a HUGE update comming soon. i would say a month or two.... is it going to be the cupcake? i dont know but i think its going to be a major one
One of the mods on the official tmob forum posted some screen shots of Latitude in RC33.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&message.id=31086
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One of the mods on the official tmob forum posted some screen shots of Latitude in RC33.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&message.id=31086
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yeah that post is gone.
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The thread got merged with another but I found it. Towards the bottom...
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/boa...thread.id=31078&view=by_date_ascending&page=5
just seen this on drudgereport
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009...zmos/main4774320.shtml?tag=topHome;topStories
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RC33 - Firmware ver. 1.1
I don't think this feature is going to help battery life.
i don't think any feature will ever increase battery life =/
not that it really matters. extended battery's are a godsend.
Whats the difference between this and loopt?
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Whats the difference between this and loopt?
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AFAIK, nothing. the plus is that, eventually, any phone with gps and google maps can use it (computers get in on the action too).
This uses cell-ID which is a general vicinity obtained from ur cell tower's signal. Most of the time, unless you explicitly turn it off, it's on by default. This does not drain much of your batter and is definitely much less than using the actual GPS chip.
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This uses cell-ID which is a general vicinity obtained from ur cell tower's signal. Most of the time, unless you explicitly turn it off, it's on by default. This does not drain much of your batter and is definitely much less than using the actual GPS chip.
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besides that everything else is pretty much the same.... ok.
the advantace that this will have over loopt is that google will be rolling it out to a lot more phone platforms than Loopt is currently on.
makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
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makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
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Haha you won't be getting it? Looks like big brother is gonna bend you over & force you to get it! From what I've read, its gonna be part of google maps, correct? You have no choice. When you update to RC33 or whichever update it comes with, your gonna have it next time you open your maps app
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personally i think that rc33 was sent because of the option to check for updates manually. that leads to the conclusion that google is the one responsible for the updates. which leads to the conclusion that there might be a HUGE update comming soon. i would say a month or two.... is it going to be the cupcake? i dont know but i think its going to be a major one
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I wanna believe that this is more than just a tiny taste from google. Part of me thinks that this update is as much about "fixing bugs" as it is building some behind the scenes framework for cupcake.
To me this make sense, upgrade some code now and get everything in place, such as the manually check for updates, to reduce the size of the next install...
I would love to belive that this is true...and part of me thinks we could see it soon.
Mobile World Congress starts on Feb 16th-19th, Google, T-mobile, HTC are all scheduled th be there...could be a coincidence, could not be. Just like the fact that RC33 will be rolled out between Feb 5th and 15th...so everyone should have it by the time MWC rolls around. Again...likely? No. Could it happen? Yes.
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makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
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Big brother already can, has been, and unless we enact legislation to limit their power, will be watching!
Having one less app on your phone won't prevent them from tapping in to the carriers networks and yoinking your approximate positioning info (with CDMA triangulation its almost as good as standalone GPS; TDMA/GSM its within 50 meters or so--and yes, WCDMA/3G falls under CDMA..In fact, CDMA relies on GPS and GPS is code-division with spreading and walsh codes and everything...read into it, its interesting stuff)
I say screw it, let me see where my friends are; Big Brother will ALWAYS know where YOU are, unless you pull the battery.
yeah after 9/11 there was legislation that passed that every Cell phone sold in the US needs to have a GPS type of system in it. I think thats were A-GPS came around. But I could be wrong.
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CDMA relies on GPS and GPS is code-division with spreading and walsh codes and everything.
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CDMA = Code Division Multiple Access
GPS = Global Positioning System
CDMA doesn't use GPS at all
The other way round, it would kinda make sense as GPS uses orthogonal codes (but who doesn't these days...)
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yeah after 9/11 there was legislation that passed that every Cell phone sold in the US needs to have a GPS type of system in it. I think thats were A-GPS came around. But I could be wrong
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And indeed... you are. Don't belive the stuff they tell you on 24
I had this conversation with a samsung support tech earlier today, you can make your own deductions but i think we are screwed because according to him the epic launched with the GPS fix already applied and as we all know from recent posts and videos the accuracy is still ****.....
Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Dan'
Dan: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Dan: How may I help you?
Visitor: hi Dan, i have a captivate from ATT and the gps is terrible, is there a fix that is coming because i am really tempted to return this phone
Dan: I understand that you need to have update about GPS.
Dan: I am sorry for inconvenience caused to you.
Dan: Our support team as been working on issue with GPS.
Dan: We will have GPS update fixed by end if september.
Visitor: was the epic 4g or the fascinate launched with fix already applied to the gps ?
Dan: We have Epic released but we do not have any customers with GPS issue.
Visitor: so thge answer would be yes the fix is applied to the epic ?
Dan: To be honest yes.
Dan: However we will have GPS issue fixed.
Visitor: i have a freind with the epic and the gps is still terrible but from what you are telling me it's fixed.
Dan: I am sorry for inconvenience caused.
Visitor: ok, thanks for your time
Dan: We have many customers with Epic , but we did not have any issue with GPS.
Dan: Once we have update released it will be OTA,
Visitor: ok
Dan: Update will fix the issue.
Dan: Please let me know if I can be of any further help.
Visitor: that's it, thank you
Dan: You're most welcome.
Dan: It was a pleasure assisting you. Thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support.
According to the way that guy conversates, I wouldnt take much of what he said into consideration lol.
I have worked for Tech giant manufacturers (more then one) - and I know for a fact that the tech support people (usually 1st through 3rd level) have no idea about fixes or releases. They are not told until after things are out.
The idea that any of these guys would know that GPS in Epic is fixed, or was released with the fix that other Galaxy S phones are waiting for is doubtful.
Until an official statement is made, I won't believe anything I hear from anyone in Samsung support. Their job is to log an issue, be nice to the customer, and fix something if they can.
So why worry about it at all until some official notification comes out? If GPS is still broken, we can take our phones back as they are not meeting basic functionality requirements - if that is what people want to do.
Two months in and no GPS fix. I will reconsider before I buy a Samsung phone ever againg. Product support suck.
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Two months in and no GPS fix. I will reconsider before I buy a Samsung phone ever againg. Product support suck.
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Amen!
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My 30 day return is up on wednesday and if no fix by then this **** is going back, i never should have left HTC for sam****.
God you people cry way too much. Why does gps on your phone bother you so much? I am a truck driver and need directions EVERY DAY. But unlike you i guess i have the ability to read a map. And even with sketchy gps it gets me in the general direction i gotta go. Stop all the crying already. Want great GPS get a damn gps unit. I have a few i will sell you since i dont use them anymore. And return your worthless phones. Rant /off
GPS on the Samsung Eternity worked great. Wonder what the difference is.
Am I missing something? My GPS works great, I've had no problems at all. If there's anything I can provide somehow to help you guys, let me know.
Hell, I've even gotten a good signal sitting in my living room; on Google maps it even showed my location in my house properly.
If there are files or something I can pull from my phone for you, I'll do what I can.
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I have worked for Tech giant manufacturers (more then one) - and I know for a fact that the tech support people (usually 1st through 3rd level) have no idea about fixes or releases. They are not told until after things are out.
The idea that any of these guys would know that GPS in Epic is fixed, or was released with the fix that other Galaxy S phones are waiting for is doubtful.
Until an official statement is made, I won't believe anything I hear from anyone in Samsung support. Their job is to log an issue, be nice to the customer, and fix something if they can.
So why worry about it at all until some official notification comes out? If GPS is still broken, we can take our phones back as they are not meeting basic functionality requirements - if that is what people want to do.
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This is so true, agree 100%. Plus, I think you kind of led him to say that the Epic had the fix by you actually mentioning it. He said yes and that was pretty much it.
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Am I missing something? My GPS works great, I've had no problems at all. If there's anything I can provide somehow to help you guys, let me know.
Hell, I've even gotten a good signal sitting in my living room; on Google maps it even showed my location in my house properly.
If there are files or something I can pull from my phone for you, I'll do what I can.
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Agreed, anything outside of a building and the GPS works great. I've been using it to geocache, and also have a boating gps app installed and used it flawlessly this past weekend. I can drive anywhere in my car and the GPS will not lose me once.
The only time I get a long signal search is after a week of not using the GPS function, then it takes only about 30 sec's to lock on.
Smokestack, I don't know about you but when I purchase a product I like when everything works. That's why I bought it, why put a non functioning gps and by the way, I am a private pilot so I read a lot more complexed maps than you, I dont follow interstates, I follow victor airways...
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GPS on the Samsung Eternity worked great. Wonder what the difference is.
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Dude. The eternity was aGPS only. Doesn't compare.
Diff OS, Diff chipset, diff radio setup.. .. .. .. Oranges to Onions dude.
And yes, i had one, the screen whacked in 6 months, got another, it happened again. Swapped to an Impression.. another 6 months and BOOM.
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Smokestack, I don't know about you but when I purchase a product I like when everything works. That's why I bought it, why put a non functioning gps and by the way, I am a private pilot so I read a lot more complexed maps than you, I dont follow interstates, I follow victor airways...
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I wouldn't rely on the GPS in my Captivate or any phone for that matter for flight ops. But, I do agree that if the phone says it has GPS, it should have GPS working when you buy it at the store. Doesn't matter if it's a nice-to-have feature or a core function. If it says it has GPS, then it should work.
I am hoping that this was a last minute configuration/software defect that was re-introduced following QA. There's no way a phone should be able to exit QA with such an alarmingly big severity 1 defect.
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Dude. The eternity was aGPS only. Doesn't compare.
Diff OS, Diff chipset, diff radio setup.. .. .. .. Oranges to Onions dude.
And yes, i had one, the screen whacked in 6 months, got another, it happened again. Swapped to an Impression.. another 6 months and BOOM.
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Dude. Cool. You answered my question. That's why I asked. I personally couldn't care less about the gps. it works good enough for me.
Sorry you broke your eternity. i had mine for two years. was dropped/thrown/punched countless times, the moisture label was bright red, but i never had a single issue with that phone other than when using opera mini and sometimes i would click a link and it would just refresh the page. a buddy of mine got one shortly after i did. he finally just broke his screen last week. cracks all through it and a couple "chunks" from the screen gone, but it still works. still texts on it like crazy. that thing is sturdy.
Smokestack...... Would you not complain if you bought a truck and found out it had the wheels missing?
I bought a device that is supposed to have GPS but doesn't. All I want is what I paid for. My reason for wanting it does not matter. I will never buy another samsung phone. If it hours totally unresolved I will never buy anything Samsung.
I totally believe this was/is an intentional scam. Then on top of it the reduced speed and forced data plan change.
I'm not happy and wish I could send this otherwise good phone back.
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Smokestack...... Would you not complain if you bought a truck and found out it had the wheels missing?
I bought a device that is supposed to have GPS but doesn't. All I want is what I paid for. My reason for wanting it does not matter. I will never buy another samsung phone. If it hours totally unresolved I will never buy anything Samsung.
I totally believe this was/is an intentional scam. Then on top of it the reduced speed and forced data plan change.
I'm not happy and wish I could send this otherwise good phone back.
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Bad analogy. A truck needs wheels to be able to serve it's purpose. A phone doesn't need GPS to work as a phone. Maybe saying something along the lines of air conditioning, it's an added bonus, such as the GPS. don't mind me, just sayin....
gotta kill these last few minutes at work some how. And you really think it's an intentional scam? take off the tinfoil hat...
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Smokestack...... Would you not complain if you bought a truck and found out it had the wheels missing?
I bought a device that is supposed to have GPS but doesn't. All I want is what I paid for. My reason for wanting it does not matter. I will never buy another samsung phone. If it hours totally unresolved I will never buy anything Samsung.
I totally believe this was/is an intentional scam. Then on top of it the reduced speed and forced data plan change.
I'm not happy and wish I could send this otherwise good phone back.
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Return your phone then. If you are out of the 30 days, you still have a valid case for returning it - but watch you say:
- GPS is known issue that Samsung has acknowledged.
- reduced speed? Where? HSUPA was never spec'd so you won't win that one - just because other phones have it, doesn't mean all do.
- forced data plan change - clearly spelled out what data plans work with the phone - if you don't like it, don't buy it.
So your GPS complaint is valid, and if the phone doesn't serve its advertised purpose then return it. There is no international conspiracy. maybe samsung knew about the GPS issue before they shipped, maybe not. Dev's are flashing new firmwares all the time - and it could have slipped through a rushed QA cycle.
Instead of complaining do something about. If the product doesn't work take it back. The iFools should have done this.
I think it's best for us to keep reminding Samsung that this is important. I just did here: http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
Hello to all,
I did take my first phone back to att because of gps problem, we try 5 phones before she got one with working gps it takes up to 10 seconds to lock the signal.
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What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
Update 9/30/10: I was pretty hopeless about the GPS after reading all of your comments. Today I met a dude on campus with a captivate. We were sitting inside a building, so I decided to test out his captivate against my Eris. I turned GPS on on both devices, and started google maps. The captivate got a lock withing 10 seconds as did my Eris. My eris had an accuracy of 40m, while the captivate had 60m. Not bad, considering what I have been reading here.
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Mine works perfectly.
much improved since update
does better than any of my winmo phones ever did
Update supposedly did not contain a GPS fix. Supposedly getting the official fix by months end as per level 2 Samsung tech.
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Update supposedly did not contain a GPS fix. Supposedly getting the official fix by months end as per level 2 Samsung tech.
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this month or next ?
I read end of this month on the GPS analysis thread today.
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GPS is much better since update
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GPS is much better since update
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The update did nothing for the GPS. The GPS is still junk on these phones. Samsung is one of the most disorganised companies there are.
My gps works fine. But then again I don't sit around waiting for the manufacturer... I sit around waiting for devs.
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Even with the tweaks that people put out on here it's still worthless. I don't know if it's an issue with the drivers that control the GPS or what but it's not normal for it to be this bad. I sent my phone back to Wirefly and if they send me a new one I know the GPS is still going to be junk on it so I may sell it and buy a different phone that runs on at&t.
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The update did nothing for the GPS. The GPS is still junk on these phones. Samsung is one of the most disorganised companies there are.
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Actually my gps sucked balls before the update and now works extremely well. The update may not have contained a gps fix but mine has been much improved since the update. Before the update I would be lucky to lock onto 1 sat. Now I am able to lock onto 7-9 sats in under 20 seconds and pretty much stay locked.
Are you using the GPS Test app to get these locks? Or is there something else that shows how many satellites you're receiving info from? Because I can get 10 satellites 'locked' no problem using the GPS test app, but Google Maps or the Navigation app both still take forever to show my location, and track my movement, most of which is completely wrong (for ex it will have me driving in fields instead of on roads).
For me I can now lock indoors, which I could never do before. This is in the Gmaps app
Also I can actually get a lock in an urban setting (apts and buildings everywhere) and not have to stand out in a field somewhere for five minutes
There has to be some kind of tweak in the latest update, there just has to
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Are you using the GPS Test app to get these locks? Or is there something else that shows how many satellites you're receiving info from? Because I can get 10 satellites 'locked' no problem using the GPS test app, but Google Maps or the Navigation app both still take forever to show my location, and track my movement, most of which is completely wrong (for ex it will have me driving in fields instead of on roads).
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I use gps test to see how many locks I'll get. But, I can fire up google maps or google navigation without warming up with gps test and still be up and running within 20 seconds.
Gathering anecdotal reports on whether the GPS is fixed is worthless.
Some people get a lock indoors and think it is fixed, while others do serious Google Navigation and My Tracks testing and find it is not fixed.
I do not think the GPS is fixed to be as accurate as other phones. Yes, it has improved since stock, but stock was garbage -- now it is just poor.
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Gathering anecdotal reports on whether the GPS is fixed is worthless.
Some people get a lock indoors and think it is fixed, while others do serious Google Navigation and My Tracks testing and find it is not fixed.
I do not think the GPS is fixed to be as accurate as other phones. Yes, it has improved since stock, but stock was garbage -- now it is just poor.
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You people keep saying it works on your captivates. We know your either full of it or have a special edition phone that no one else got. No bodies captivate works 100% on GPS. If you think yours works then PROVE it!!! Take a long drive and track it on a map and post it here. I've yet to see such. QUIT SAYING IT WORKS WHEN IT DON'T.
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You people keep saying it works on your captivates. We know your either full of it or have a special edition phone that no one else got. No bodies captivate works 100% on GPS. If you think yours works then PROVE it!!! Take a long drive and track it on a map and post it here. I've yet to see such. QUIT SAYING IT WORKS WHEN IT DON'T.
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Thank You! Locking on Satellites DOES NOT mean the GPS works - Hell you can just use location to find out where you are - GPS is for MOVEMENT and how WELL it keeps up with MOVEMENT. If People keep saying that it works it's improved after the update - Samsung nor At&t will do anything to fix it (don't believe me just call them and they will get angry telling you how the update fix ALL that was wrong with the phone). PLEASE stop posting it's FIXED or IT WORKS because it can see and lock on satellites. Drive/Walk with this phone and then ANY other phone - Trust it will make you want to SLAP someone at Samsung & At&t.
i admit after the JH7 update, gps locks in alot quicker! but it still samsung garbage! gps navigation show Turn right on Pine Ave, i turned Pine ave 2 block ago, gps navigation still showing Turn right on Pine ave. or i waiting at red light waiting to make a turn on Pine ave, gps navagion already tell me the next turn Turn right on Rose Ave. so do i turn right on Pine or keep driving straight and turn right on Rose?
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i admit after the JH7 update, gps locks in alot quicker! but it still samsung garbage! gps navigation show Turn right on Pine Ave, i turned Pine ave 2 block ago, gps navigation still showing Turn right on Pine ave. or i waiting at red light waiting to make a turn on Pine ave, gps navagion already tell me the next turn Turn right on Rose Ave. so do i turn right on Pine or keep driving straight and turn right on Rose?
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Are you sure this is a GPS problem and not crap code for navigation app?
Im going to try to return my phone since the GPS cant do anything in regards to navigation. It never knows what street im on even when its locked.
Is there a certain model I should be requesting that performs better?
All of them are broken. It's a hardware problem.
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All of them are broken. It's a hardware problem.
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not true. my phone is build no. 1012 rev 0.4 and everything works as expected, including GPS.
Mine has never ever, locked once!!!
Mine is 1007 stock and I've always been able to use the GPS. So imho it's pretty much luck of the draw.
I don't even care anymore. I've given up on Samdung to be honest.. terrible support and no communication for their 10 million galaxy s devices.
For what its worth, I have a 1006 build and gps is marginal at best when tracking - regardless of which ROM and gps cocktail files I throw at it.
Supposedly the newer builds have better tracking, but there isn't any PROOF.
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Samdung... Clever. I prefer Samsuck myself.
I have a model 1009 running Serendipity 2.0, and my GPS gets a very quick lock and maintains lock when I'm driving in the car for the most part.
I had 2 1008's that both had great gps with Darkys rom and very spotty if any lock with other roms. I now have a refurbished 1007 running Darkys that locks fast and tracks great too.
I have a 1007, that I got to replace my old 1007 and the new phone's gps works perfectly with any rom I've used. Guess I got lucky.
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I have to agree that GPS on my Captivate isn't great since day 1 either.
Recently I've been using Designgears Perception build 10.0, GPS has nothing but spectacular. Did a few long-drive road test and didn't lose signal even once and testing it with short trips for about a week now. Signal lock is within a minute. That is with both Google Maps/Navigation and CoPilot Live. A round trip from St. Robert to St. Louis, MO then from St. Robert, MO to Fort Smith, AR and back and GPS has been Spot on. This is with Perception Build 10.0 - Before I made the trip back from Fort Smith, I decided to update to Perception build 10.1 and GPS just gave out on me... did not work at all... get all kind of GPS signal but can not be locked into 3D to get an accurate position. Great thing I still have Build 10.0 on the phone decided to flash back from Build 10.1 to 10.0 and GPS is miraculously work the way it meant to be. This is the first time GPS on my Captivate has been working so well for me ever since day 1. I almost made a jump to Windows Phone 7 because of it. Now, I don't have to anymore, all thanks to Designgear.
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Samdung... Clever. I prefer Samsuck myself.
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Haha, I like samjunk.
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I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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Nah, that data doesn't exist. You could start a poll thread. It'd be skewed towards XDA users (which might comprise in part those that find their phone inadequate) but that'd give some idea.
My phone varies from poor gps tracking to completely unfunctional depending on the ROM. Incidentally, all 2.2 i9000 were 100% broken for me, but 2.2.1 i9000 brought it up to "crappy". YMMV
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mwilhelm said:
I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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The two people I know with SGS phones that said their GPS worked learned otherwise when I asked them to show me.
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DrCruelty said:
The two people I know with SGS phones that said their GPS worked learned otherwise when I asked them to show me.
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It's like the iPhone antenna. They're all broken, but many people don't notice or understand the problem.
So the company spits in your face and goes to the bank.
Some people think this is acceptable, I don't. That's why I shall never but another Samsung phone again.
I've been holding a grudge against RadioShack since fifth grade, when they tried to screw me over. Now Samsung can add to the list.
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Haha, I like samjunk.
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If people keep refusing to buy their phones anymore because of the Captivate, they'll soon be Samsunk!
bacuy82 said:
I have to agree that GPS on my Captivate isn't great since day 1 either.
Recently I've been using Designgears Perception build 10.0, GPS has nothing but spectacular. Did a few long-drive road test and didn't lose signal even once and testing it with short trips for about a week now. Signal lock is within a minute. That is with both Google Maps/Navigation and CoPilot Live. A round trip from St. Robert to St. Louis, MO then from St. Robert, MO to Fort Smith, AR and back and GPS has been Spot on. This is with Perception Build 10.0 - Before I made the trip back from Fort Smith, I decided to update to Perception build 10.1 and GPS just gave out on me... did not work at all... get all kind of GPS signal but can not be locked into 3D to get an accurate position. Great thing I still have Build 10.0 on the phone decided to flash back from Build 10.1 to 10.0 and GPS is miraculously work the way it meant to be. This is the first time GPS on my Captivate has been working so well for me ever since day 1. I almost made a jump to Windows Phone 7 because of it. Now, I don't have to anymore, all thanks to Designgear.
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Ive tried every ROM and none of them work with my GPS. It will track me for periods of 30 seconds, then the circle around my arrow gets huge and rarely locks again.
MikeyMike01 said:
It's like the iPhone antenna. They're all broken, but many people don't notice or understand the problem.
So the company spits in your face and goes to the bank.
Some people think this is acceptable, I don't. That's why I shall never but another Samsung phone again.
I've been holding a grudge against RadioShack since fifth grade, when they tried to screw me over. Now Samsung can add to the list.
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Minus the fact that the iPhone antenna actually works... That thing never loses my position... NEVER. A simple case on the phone remedies the issue... with the captivate, there is nothing you can do but keep returning the phone.
My GPS is perfect. I have 10 locks in within 30 seconds. This is my second captivate due to me dropping the first one and the screen breaking. When I used the GPS on that device I got a Max of 3 satellites with 1 lock. I think it its that they have slightly updated the device as time has passed on.
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I have a mix 3 8gb/256 and everything seems to be fine on T-Mobile but I am having GPS issues. Google Maps cannot find my location. It does have location permissions. Location is set to high accuracy. Anyone else in the US seeing this as well?
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I have a mix 3 8gb/256 and everything seems to be fine on T-Mobile but I am having GPS issues. Google Maps cannot find my location. It does have location permissions. Location is set to high accuracy. Anyone else in the US seeing this as well?
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Yes I am having the same issue. Don't have a solution currently. Sorry I cannot help.
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Yes I am having the same issue. Don't have a solution currently. Sorry I cannot help.
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Mine actually is working great now. Just stepped outside for a bit and it locks really well with very high precision. I was inside next to a window when I first tested... Apparently it didn't like that
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Mine actually is working great now. Just stepped outside for a bit and it locks really well with very high precision. I was inside next to a window when I first tested... Apparently it didn't like that
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I really love the slider and do not own one but you are getting ripped off (no band 12/71). GPS only has access to US L1/L5 bands. The China/Euro sats are disabled by broadcomm chip if you are in the United States which means access to less L1/L5 bands brought to you by?? So, if you were in a basement, L1/L5 bands would still work well if all sats were working. Your by a window and cannot make a lock really sucks, huh? This phone is neutered too much for US users.
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I really love the slider and do not own one but you are getting ripped off (no band 12/71). GPS only has access to US L1/L5 bands. The China/Euro sats are disabled by broadcomm chip if you are in the United States which means access to less L1/L5 bands brought to you by?? So, if you were in a basement, L1/L5 bands would still work well if all sats were working. Your by a window and cannot make a lock really sucks, huh? This phone is neutered too much for US users.
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I disagree. To some, band 71 may be a game changer but the Seattle area doesn't even have it. I think it a bit silly to care too much about something that barely came into existence. In the two or so years I will have this phone it just won't matter to me. I have been perfectly satisfied with my previous phones without it.
As for GPS it seems to lock just fine in my car and out walking about... In fact much more precise than my old phone.... So that is 99% of my use of GPS and I imagine most others as well. Also just this past week the FCC cleared the use of the euro satellites in the US so unless it's out of the reach of software or firmware (very unlikely) then that won't matter either very soon.
It's actually working well now. Just needed an initial lock outside I guess.
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I disagree. To some, band 71 may be a game changer but the Seattle area doesn't even have it. I think it a bit silly to care too much about something that barely came into existence. In the two or so years I will have this phone it just won't matter to me. I have been perfectly satisfied with my previous phones without it.
As for GPS it seems to lock just fine in my car and out walking about... In fact much more precise than my old phone.... So that is 99% of my use of GPS and I imagine most others as well. Also just this past week the FCC cleared the use of the euro satellites in the US so unless it's out of the reach of software or firmware (very unlikely) then that won't matter either very soon.
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The deal is that it is missing even band 12. Band 71 is rolling faster then some expected. That time table of 2020 has been upped by about a year, possible. Most channels have already cleared (they have shut down). I really love the concept of this phone but if I was on ATT, I would jump in and buy it. I just think xiaomi is not trying in the US market, yet. As far as a software fix for the GPS, it would have to be on the firmware side of the phone. That cannot be updated by software. I think Broadcomm made a deal and since most of the sale of phones are targeted for sale outside the US, Xiaomi threw in the towel. So, you will be able to tell if you ever will get the euro sats by going to the play store and installing:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest
and see if you ever do get the euro sats on this phone. I do not think so, though because it is hard coded into the Broadcomm chip. If xiaomi decides to cut corners they may keep buying this chip for a year or two before the new ones get updated. Anyway, let us all know.
Edit: It does have band 12.
No issue with mine, make sure to give all the needed permission to google maps app. Also if its your first time locking in, do it outdoors first. If you're indoor , it may take awhile but subsequently it's really quick and accurate.
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The deal is that it is missing even band 12. Band 71 is rolling faster then some expected. That time table of 2020 has been upped by about a year, possible. Most channels have already cleared (they have shut down). I really love the concept of this phone but if I was on ATT, I would jump in and buy it. I just think xiaomi is not trying in the US market, yet. As far as a software fix for the GPS, it would have to be on the firmware side of the phone. That cannot be updated by software. I think Broadcomm made a deal and since most of the sale of phones are targeted for sale outside the US, Xiaomi threw in the towel. So, you will be able to tell if you ever will get the euro sats by going to the play store and installing:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest
and see if you ever do get the euro sats on this phone. I do not think so, though because it is hard coded into the Broadcomm chip. If xiaomi decides to cut corners they may keep buying this chip for a year or two before the new ones get updated. Anyway, let us all know.
Edit: It does have band 12.
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I am seeing several E1 and E5a sats in that app...
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The deal is that it is missing even band 12. Band 71 is rolling faster then some expected. That time table of 2020 has been upped by about a year, possible. Most channels have already cleared (they have shut down). I really love the concept of this phone but if I was on ATT, I would jump in and buy it. I just think xiaomi is not trying in the US market, yet. As far as a software fix for the GPS, it would have to be on the firmware side of the phone. That cannot be updated by software. I think Broadcomm made a deal and since most of the sale of phones are targeted for sale outside the US, Xiaomi threw in the towel. So, you will be able to tell if you ever will get the euro sats by going to the play store and installing:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest
and see if you ever do get the euro sats on this phone. I do not think so, though because it is hard coded into the Broadcomm chip. If xiaomi decides to cut corners they may keep buying this chip for a year or two before the new ones get updated. Anyway, let us all know.
Edit: It does have band 12.
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I am seeing several E1 and E5a sats in that app...no sbas though
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I am seeing several E1 and E5a sats in that app...no sbas though
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I may be wrong! Wow, that is good news! Can you lock on to some sats and do a print screen so I can see what is up there?? And post that print screen! Thanks!
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/duel-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
And if you want you can contact and share with Sean, thanks!
vq8acsxht said:
I may be wrong! Wow, that is good news! Can you lock on to some sats and do a print screen so I can see what is up there?? And post that print screen! Thanks!
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/duel-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
And if you want you can contact and share with Sean, thanks!
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Here ya go
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Here ya go
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Wow, that is new. Looks like no software upgrade is needed. It looks like the euro sats were sending a blocking code signals for the US region in order to shut down the receiver portion in the Broadcomm chip (I would assume). So, it appears the same would be true for the china sats. With how many sats you are receiving, this phone is going to get great gps reception, now! I think I may get this phone when the global version comes out. I was really on the fence about this phone but with band 12, this phone will still get great coverage.
New device and having the same problem (EU). No GPS when indoors. If I go outside it works...
Is it a hardware defect or a software problem?
I was having the same issue. I did two things and guess one of them fixed it:
1 disable MiUi optimization in developer settings
2 give all permissions to Google play services. This was a little tricky as the default app manager doesn't allow you to modify Google play services permissions. I installed MIUP from Google play store and used the app manager to give the permissions.
GPS works fine indoors now
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I was having the same issue. I did two things and guess one of them fixed it:
1 disable MiUi optimization in developer settings
2 give all permissions to Google play services. This was a little tricky as the default app manager doesn't allow you to modify Google play services permissions. I installed MIUP from Google play store and used the app manager to give the permissions.
GPS works fine indoors now
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I did the 2nd. Google Play services had the "Location" permission turned off. This seems to have fixed it! Thanks
Is this normal? GPS signal seems to be very bad. Is there a solution?
Wrakor said:
I did the 2nd. Google Play services had the "Location" permission turned off. This seems to have fixed it! Thanks
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Did not help for me. GPS is still bad inside the building. However first step should have been important as GPS started working when I have turned of Wifi. Not sure if this was a coincidence or not.
Shilis said:
Is this normal? GPS signal seems to be very bad. Is there a solution?
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If you just bought the phone, take it outside. Some have reported that on the first lock, it may do a cold start an have GPS issues. Never the less, goto google play store and load the app "GPS Status" app in.
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Shilis said:
Did not help for me. GPS is still bad inside the building. However first step should have been important as GPS started working when I have turned of Wifi. Not sure if this was a coincidence or not.
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Your phone should get a minimum of 20 sats. The GPS is awsome on this phone even in indoors. GPS Status gets the AGPS data off the internet to speed up where the sats are. Taking it outside will do the same thing for the first time, also. Xiaomi MI Mix 3 may have a program to get the AGPS when connected to WIFI.
I'm in the state of Massachusetts, USA. My GPS wasn't working even though I was outside my house for about 4hrs since getting the phone. What worked for me was downloading the app mentioned above:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ndroid.gpstest
( thanks to vq8acsxht for posting) let it run and after a few minutes I noticed my GPS was working. Really was a pain... I tried ubering and my phone thought I was in some country in the continent of Africa lols