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[Q] i want to make a rom?

ok guys imma try and make a rom for g2x with sense3.0, so i need alittle help, where do i start? and its there a thread i can read on that will help me alittle?
and if anyone will let me use their patches and stuff i guess we can both take credit? but i (and who ever helps me out) will be the first to make sencce for g2x

Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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Wtf are u talking about?
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sounds like he wants to try and learn how to develop rom's, with no experience in development. but he's wanting to build a rom for the g2x that incorporates sense3.0? that's what i interpreted.
So someone needs to go to the book store,library, or Google and start reading on Linux, java (more app based from what i read), and other books on code that's used in mobile development
correct me if I'm wrong anywhere in this response.

cwa542 said:
Wtf are u talking about?
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That's exactly what I am talking about... How many times have you written something like that after someone responds to your posts? I get that you want to do a sense rom for the g2x... It also seems like you want to use others work(and give them credit, of course). Hop on to amazon or head to your local bookstore, there are whole sections about android development...
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I'm just talking about them giving me advice,
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Expert developers are EXTREMELY challenged to port over platforms from other brands. To think that your going to do it with no experience is never gonna happen. Start easy, download CM source code, try to modify things, and maybe in a few months you can put something out for us. If making a rom was that easy, we would all do it.

Were do I start!!!!
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get a book and read.
start with learning JAVA (this is if you have no programming experience)
once your familiar with JAVA and feel comfortable reading JAVA code and writting in JAVA.
then go get a book on ANDROID Development. I found a great book to learn about android development called " Hello Android", by the first 15 pages i had already made a somewhat complete Sudoku app, not out of interest but as this was the lesson in the book i was on.
No one can help you until you want to help your self, not trying to be a dbag but sounds like your wanting someone to walk you through step by step and through previous experience trying to verbally or explain to someone through text on to do something as complex as coding with them having little or no knowledge on the fundamentals and basics is/will be very difficult and frustrating for you and the person trying to guide you.
ps... might not hurt if you learn how to read/write/understand linux as android is based ontop of linux from my understanding

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Were do I start!!!!
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Come on dude! Do you ever read people's comment?
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cwa542 said:
Were do I start!!!!
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http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html
good luck.

Google is your friend!
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BobbyDukes707 said:
Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.

jcbofkc said:
I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.
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I thought his keyboard is broken or something.
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Dude you are talkin about a near impossible feat! your first rom porting sense to a non sense phone? Not gonna happen man... come on you gotta be realistic... you might wanna START making a variation of stock... since that would be the easiest....

Programming

Say I wanted to make an app for android, what's the best language to code it in? I'm still learning so yeah.
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Oh, dude. CSS for sure!

aden35 said:
Say I wanted to make an app for android, what's the best language to code it in? I'm still learning so yeah.
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Do a forum search and you'll get a more detailed answer as its been asked before but basically there are at least two answers.
Java, using an ide such as eclipse as android is java based.
Or basic4android if your used to the basic style programming languages like visual basic on pc or if java seems hard to learn.
Dave
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Thanks guys will try java
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Oh and also how should I go about learning, is there a super website or something?
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I would say Java for sure with Eclipse. I use thenewboston.com for java android tutorials.

Start here:
http://developer.android.com/index.html
Everything you need, the SDK, sample code and tutorials, etc. etc. all in one place.

Good Books about Android Os

I'm curious about how all this goes down. I've flirted with Linux but never took it seriously until I started rooting. What are some good Books to help understand the filesystem et al?

I would like to know this aswell. ( which is why I'm posting so my phone will have this show up on tapatalk for both my tablet and phone)
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Ones on beginning development or just on how the system saves libraries and such will suffice. I have coded in C and C++, so Ill be within my element.

Try this man.. came across it
http://www.dummies.com/store/produc...lopment-For-Dummies.productCd-047077018X.html
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Not a fan of Dummies books personally. Anyone else got any good recommendations? Newbie here too.

mrw0rm said:
Not a fan of Dummies books personally. Anyone else got any good recommendations? Newbie here too.
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Honestly if you read enough threads you can start to teach yourself the inner workings its VERY similar to other languages .
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What Else Is There...?

Okay. So I rooted, have CWM and have tried several custom roms out there. But what else is there I can do that'd make my phone really awesome? I know the developers and Linux guys that know infinitely more than I ever will could possibly chime in here and give some ideas of some other cool stuff, I just don't know what else to fiddle with.
Something like this may have very well already been posted, but I was just thinking about all the customizations that one can do with Android -and am opening up discussion for folks to show off and/or discuss things to tweak the customizations available...
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Get a rom that you like and tear it apart and customize it to your liking. I do this a lot. It is a good way to learn. Make sure you know how to get yourself back to stock if need be. I have had myself in some pretty good jams before testing out my own work.
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tmease1 said:
Get a rom that you like and tear it apart and customize it to your liking. I do this a lot. It is a good way to learn. Make sure you know how to get yourself back to stock if need be. I have had myself in some pretty good jams before testing out my own work.
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I've been wanting to do just this, and luckily have already gone down the soft bricking road, and have my fxz to fastboot flash if need be. It was suggested to me to download Ubuntu and familiarize myself with that. I'm still unclear on adb and android sdk -I have installed on my laptop but no idea what I'm doing. But, I wasn't trying to get mini-tutorials for my lack of knowledge with this post, I'm just curious as to what others are and have done to further make Android "theirs" through customization. Thanks for your response!
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Apex_Strider said:
I've been wanting to do just this, and luckily have already gone down the soft bricking road, and have my fxz to fastboot flash if need be. It was suggested to me to download Ubuntu and familiarize myself with that. I'm still unclear on adb and android sdk -I have installed on my laptop but no idea what I'm doing. But, I wasn't trying to get mini-tutorials for my lack of knowledge with this post, I'm just curious as to what others are and have done to further make Android "theirs" through customization. Thanks for your response!
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I don't have ubuntu or the Android sdk either. I don't do to much on this phone but just theming roms to make them my own. I'm still learning on this phone. On my infuse i mess with kernels and modems. When i get a chance in a day or two I'll pm you some places to start if you want.
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tmease1 said:
I don't have ubuntu or the Android sdk either. I don't do to much on this phone but just theming roms to make them my own. I'm still learning on this phone. On my infuse i mess with kernels and modems. When i get a chance in a day or two I'll pm you some places to start if you want.
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That would be very much appreciated! If I had been smart, I would've brought my laptop with me (traveling for work) and could have been digging through rom files and stuff. This would have been the time to do that, as my girlfriend is getting sick of the amount of time I've been spending researching rather than listening to how her day was and about how I never do laundry the "right" way 'n crap.
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This is a stretch... but you could always make a phone call with it.

voodoomurphy said:
This is a stretch... but you could always make a phone call with it.
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People still do that???
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At the moment I'm at point of not having enough time to do anything so my own theming has come to a hault because it is time consuming. So as a alternative I've been buying games left and right. Just something to add to the phone i guess.
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tmease1 said:
At the moment I'm at point of not having enough time to do anything so my own theming has come to a hault because it is time consuming. So as a alternative I've been buying games left and right. Just something to add to the phone i guess.
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Any good ones to suggest?
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These are old but reliable. Nba jam and any gameloft game. I don't really know what to tell you. I hit up the new paid game section of the play store and try them out. I'm on the verge of buying the new mass effect game and nova 3 but i can't bring myself to pay that much for either of them.
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How would one learn to create software

I am interested i n learning how to create software for my phone I have a Samsung vibrant anybody who can offer any help I will accept it openly
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Hello I'm in the same boat. I was told to practice JavaScript and HTML. Believe me I've spent all day reading and searching and I have a head ache
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Development for Android is done mostly in Java. It is very simple programming language, after a few weeks of practice you should be good at it. Here you have a tutorial on how to create first Application: http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html

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Development for Android is done mostly in Java. It is very simple programming language, after a few weeks of practice you should be good at it. Here you have a tutorial on how to create first Application: http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html
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Not applications I'm talking a about things like roms
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The New Boston
The new boston has a 200 video series on android application development. It's a little bit dated but if you go to http://thenewboston.org/index.php. It shows you specifically how to develop for android 2.2 (froyo). that being said most (if not all) of those applications should fun just fine on any OS 2.2 and above.
The main things is that you are using the API level from 2.2 so unless you change it later on you won't be able to use newer features. BUT... it can take someone from 'eeerrr I think this be mah keyburd' to 'Yeah, i just wrote and android app and put it on the market. BYAAAH!!!'.
Definitely worth checking out. I checked it out and when they came out they were cuttign edge pretty much (like a year ago lol).
Once again http://thenewboston.org/index.php
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HA... I just realized that you said ROMS. well that is a completely different story... that is really trial and error until you figure out how everything works.
If you aren't running on ubuntu then download virtual box:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Once you have that the EASIEST way to get started is to download the ISO for ubuntu 10.04:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
Once you have created the Virtual machine with ubuntu 10.04(simply because it is the best for development):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC6jSiGSbUE
Then I recommend to get your environment setup you follow the instruction at the below site:
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Now that I actually read what you were askign for and am not a complete tard... hope this helps.

I looked it up and it also gave me a link on how to set up Ubuntu. So my next question is, where do you get source codes? I myself have a vibrant so of course it doesn't get source code updates although I know that some ports are from the gnex
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Is it fairly easy to pick up then? I program in a language called SAS and I have done bits of Java and VB in the past.

LeChuck85 said:
Is it fairly easy to pick up then? I program in a language called SAS and I have done bits of Java and VB in the past.
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That's what I'm trying to figure out I haven't done programming but I usually pick up quick on tgings I would ask a dev for my service but they have a lot on their plate as it is
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sounds like xda veterans should compile an Android rom "how to for dumb dumbs" e book and put it for sale in the play store and on Amazon self publishing. you'd probably make a fair amount for yourselves and the site, depending on how you went about it; problem is I think all forums on this site would then be totally flooded with repeats, duplicate functions mods, crap roms, and just generally bring the average level of code down to hella-sloppy levels. yikes, pick your poison

I understand that serving requires a lot of time butnim serious about this. Not o my that my friend has an lg lucid and I have other people who would like development for that pho e which I would help with hopefully
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I understand that deving requires a lot of time butnim serious about this. Not o my that my friend has an lg lucid and I have other people who would like development for that pho e which I would help with hopefully
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skinzy98 said:
Not applications I'm talking a about things like roms
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roms are also largely in java (or davlik, anyway)
You can start by compiling something like CM10 (not an easy task, I might add).
Most devs begin because there's something they are itching to have but that doesn't exist. Once you've successfully compiled, you can start tweaking these things in.

is there no how-to guide somewhere for your-first-compiling and what-files-do post for dummies somewhere?
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wlpywd said:
is there no how-to guide somewhere for your-first-compiling and what-files-do post for dummies somewhere?
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Yes I did recently find one in the vibrant forum on how to setup and compile using Ubuntu
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thanks
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