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So I want to make an app but have NO experience...are there any tutorials? I want to make simple and advanced apps(maybe for some extra cash? Lol) any help?
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Why don't you go to the official android developers page?
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Not everyone knows how to find the pages they need. Perhaps provide a link? I assume he hasn't come across that yet since he's asking.
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http://developer.android.com/index.html here you go
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http://developer.android.com/index.html here you go
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Thank you, I will start there. I knew about it but not exactly where it was..also if there are other tutorials out there I would be more than happy to have them thanks
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Are there any shorter guides or maybe easier way to go through I am overwhelmed with all of this info
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Are there any shorter guides or maybe easier way to go through I am overwhelmed with all of this info
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Programming is always hard. I suggest starting with a simple app that has 3 screens and a couple of buttons for interaction and maybe some images.
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Do you have any suggestions for staring apps for this
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Anyone?
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Anyone?
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First of all, do you know how to write in Java? Because none of the tutorials I have found include that part. You will find it very hard if you don't! Pick up a book on Java, and read all the way through it first. I found books better than online for some reason. It doesn't matter if the book is a few years old, many of the concepts will be the same.
Then find some beginning tutorials for developing Android apps. I've found a few, and I will update this if I find any more, but here are some:
http://hackaday.com/2010/07/12/android-development-101-–-a-tutorial-series/
http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
http://androidwizard.net/ -- Make sure you have a look at the beginner ones first, because there are many tutorials here.
Then if you require more detail, move on to the info at developer.android.com/ as it is more advanced (well its aimed at users who already know a bit).
I would also learn just some basics on how a program flows. It is essential since most programmers know several languages or are able to know how to read code without knowing the syntax. After you get the basics down, look through all the examples given with the SDK and see if you understand it. Hope that helps. Good luck!
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Do you have a suggestion for the type of java for the book? I am using eclipse
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Anyone
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I read "Sams Teach Yourself Android Application Development in 24 Hours". It was pretty cheap and they also have a java one. It was a nice start, pretty good explanation of code and space out each part so not overwhelmed.
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Should I read the java one first? And where would I get this book? Im just wanting to learn this.
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I only read the android one. I would say read the android one and if you are lost after the second or third chapter, read it again (they are short) and if still not understanding then get the java one. It all depends on you're background and current knowledge...also remember Google is you're friend for words/statements that you don't recognize. Hope that helps, and.you can get book at barnes and noble or borders. It seems to be a common book.
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Thank you I will look into getting that book
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I got the android one and might have to get the java one after looking at this
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Anything you don't understand you can just ask questions about and and we all can try to explain it in better terms for you.
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Anything you don't understand you can just ask questions about and and we all can try to explain it in better terms for you.
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Thank you
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ok guys imma try and make a rom for g2x with sense3.0, so i need alittle help, where do i start? and its there a thread i can read on that will help me alittle?
and if anyone will let me use their patches and stuff i guess we can both take credit? but i (and who ever helps me out) will be the first to make sencce for g2x
Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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Wtf are u talking about?
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sounds like he wants to try and learn how to develop rom's, with no experience in development. but he's wanting to build a rom for the g2x that incorporates sense3.0? that's what i interpreted.
So someone needs to go to the book store,library, or Google and start reading on Linux, java (more app based from what i read), and other books on code that's used in mobile development
correct me if I'm wrong anywhere in this response.
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Wtf are u talking about?
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That's exactly what I am talking about... How many times have you written something like that after someone responds to your posts? I get that you want to do a sense rom for the g2x... It also seems like you want to use others work(and give them credit, of course). Hop on to amazon or head to your local bookstore, there are whole sections about android development...
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I'm just talking about them giving me advice,
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Expert developers are EXTREMELY challenged to port over platforms from other brands. To think that your going to do it with no experience is never gonna happen. Start easy, download CM source code, try to modify things, and maybe in a few months you can put something out for us. If making a rom was that easy, we would all do it.
Were do I start!!!!
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get a book and read.
start with learning JAVA (this is if you have no programming experience)
once your familiar with JAVA and feel comfortable reading JAVA code and writting in JAVA.
then go get a book on ANDROID Development. I found a great book to learn about android development called " Hello Android", by the first 15 pages i had already made a somewhat complete Sudoku app, not out of interest but as this was the lesson in the book i was on.
No one can help you until you want to help your self, not trying to be a dbag but sounds like your wanting someone to walk you through step by step and through previous experience trying to verbally or explain to someone through text on to do something as complex as coding with them having little or no knowledge on the fundamentals and basics is/will be very difficult and frustrating for you and the person trying to guide you.
ps... might not hurt if you learn how to read/write/understand linux as android is based ontop of linux from my understanding
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Were do I start!!!!
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Come on dude! Do you ever read people's comment?
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Were do I start!!!!
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http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html
good luck.
Google is your friend!
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Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.
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I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.
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I thought his keyboard is broken or something.
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Dude you are talkin about a near impossible feat! your first rom porting sense to a non sense phone? Not gonna happen man... come on you gotta be realistic... you might wanna START making a variation of stock... since that would be the easiest....
Hello Everyone! I've created a Smartphone Hardware Survey on Survey Monkey to get people's opinions on items like buttons, form factor, memory cards, and screen size. I think it will be pretty interesting to see what popular opinion shows.
I've tried to be as unbiased as I can in the creation of this survey. In a few weeks when we've gotten enough responses to have a good data set, I'll update this thread with the results. Please only fill it out once. Thanks for contributing!
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/JTSR5J9
note to the mods: If possible, I'd like permission to post this in some of the more popular device forums. Let me know, Thanks!
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Finished it. I hope phone companies see this
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I completed it. Here are two question that most(mostly me)would like to answer:
Where would you prefer the power/lock button?
Also:
Where would you prefer the charger port?
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As did I. One question that most would like to answer:
Where would you prefer the power/lock button?
Also:
Where would you prefer the charger port?
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Ports covered or not?
HDMI or MHL?
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Ports covered or not?
HDMI or MHL?
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Do you prefer a kickstand?
Do you prefer a removable battery?
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Interesting survey^^
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Everyone. Thanks for all the positive talk. Sorry I couldn't get those questions in at this time. The free version is limited to 10 questions. Maybe at somepoint this might grow a little bigger. We'll see what happens for now. I've got 11 responses so far. I'm really hoping to get over 100. We'll see if that happens.
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Everyone. Thanks for all the positive talk. Sorry I couldn't get those questions in at this time. The free version is limited to 10 questions. Maybe at somepoint this might grow a little bigger. We'll see what happens for now. I've got 11 responses so far. I'm really hoping to get over 100. We'll see if that happens.
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I think you can do a survey with Google Docs ( don't know how, but I know there is a way). Try using it.
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done! interesting :laugh::good:
Done. Would definitely like more questions. My personal stake is audio quality and GPS.
For all those wanting more questions, I don't want to add on so as to keep the results consistent. However, if this is successful I could do another one down the road.
FYI, we've already got 21 responses!!! That's awesome!!
Has anyone found a solution to opening Snote Files on Pc? I'm not talking about exporting to pdf.
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It's just a zip file. Extract it and take a look. The default templates are changeable in this way also.
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Id like to know as well
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After un Zip I'm getting a few viewable thumbnails , but nothing in full size . Can you give me Some direction -
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Has anyone found a solution to opening Snote Files on Pc? I'm not talking about exporting to pdf.
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Here is an option...
Samsung ativ win 8 tablet comes with snote. I have often sent my snote files from 8013 to my friend can open them on windows 8.
We just need to get an installer out of it that will work on other win 8 laptops.. and hopefullt win7.
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I copied the .snb file to my PC, extracted it with 7 Zip, navigated to the snote folder, and opened the snote.xml in Word. It gives me all the text and is very readable. It didn't, however, give me the photos and videos I had embedded in the file, but I imagine (not being a computer geek) that those instructions are contained in the other .xml files, as I have a folder in the archive that also contains those elements.
Yes, it would be great if Samsung could port the S-Note to Windows.
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Yes, it would be great if Samsung could port the S-Note to Windows.
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Snote is already ported on win8!
It is installed in samsung win8 tablets.
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Windows RT or windows 8 x86 desktop or metro?
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ts-Win-8-powered-ATIV-Smart-PC-tablet_id36389
Google for more info...
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Has anyone found a solution to opening Snote Files on Pc? I'm not talking about exporting to pdf.
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I'd like to know too..
using on win8
I have a new Samsung Ativ T700. It uses an Intel Core i5. In the metro environment there is an SNotes app that is the same as on our tablets. Well, actually, the tablet is better, but you can copy your notes over and then import them into the Win8 version. Works fine.
I'm lost on what your referring to I guess because I don't have a ATIV, but can you clarify what is a metro environment?
Google "Metro UI"
I don't understand how people today STILL don't realize 90% of all questions in the universe have already been answered on Google.
Did I know it was a ui ? Sorry I assumed someone could answer a simple question without being a ****.
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Icryan, the problem is that it's not just you. It's pretty much anyone blind or too lazy to use Google.
Nothing to do with being a ****. I'm teaching you and others like you the solution to the rest of your life.
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Try working in retail tech one day, you'll see how many times the same simple question that can be answered by the FIRST link on Google gets asked.
IE: how to MUTE the VOLUME * face palm*
If everyone were like you, every forum would be FILLED with IDENTICAL question threads, and eventually NO ONE knowledgeable will bother answering after repeating the same answer 10 times.
Just Try it, help yourself get some perspective.
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Icryan, the problem is that it's not just you. It's pretty much anyone blind or too lazy to use Google.
Nothing to do with being a ****. I'm teaching you and others like you the solution to the rest of your life.
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Try working in retail tech one day, you'll see how many times the same simple question that can be answered by the FIRST link on Google gets asked.
IE: how to MUTE the VOLUME * face palm*
If everyone were like you, every forum would be FILLED with IDENTICAL question threads, and eventually NO ONE knowledgeable will bother answering after repeating the same answer 10 times.
Just Try it, help yourself get some perspective.
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I knew what you were talking about (vaguely), but for kicks, I Googled metro, and didn't find anything, results improved after using metro environment, but barely. It might seem obvious to you, but not to someone who isn't sure as to what they are looking for.
Using your analogy, there is a difference between teaching a man how to fish, as opposed to telling him to throw a hook into the water.
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Just bumping this in order to keep a discussion going on the availability of a APP capable of opening snb files.
Possible if the pc app in windows app is ported to other devices
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I knew what you were talking about (vaguely), but for kicks, I Googled metro, and didn't find anything, results improved after using metro environment, but barely. It might seem obvious to you, but not to someone who isn't sure as to what they are looking for.
Using your analogy, there is a difference between teaching a man how to fish, as opposed to telling him to throw a hook into the water.
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If one bothered reading this [read: two page] thread, they would have come across my earlier post linking "metro" to "Windows 8".
It's a clear clue that "windows 8" has SOMETHING to do with "Metro"
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Windows RT or windows 8 x86 desktop or metro?
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Now, upon seeing this, he/she would have had enough terms ["windows 8 metro"] for retrieving a relevant Google search result.
clearly, In this case, simply READING would have been faster than posting a message and waiting for someone to post an answer.
But that's your choice. Kind of like double clicking on internet links, sure it'll work, but it's a waste of everyone's time and effort.
Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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Good luck mate - hope someone gives you a hand. Great that you want to do stuff for the rest of us here.
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Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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I'm not sure how long it'll take you to find someone, I'm no de but while you're waiting. Maybe pickup a Linux book. Coding helps too. Specifically c since you get more control at the hardware level.
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Oh well... I guess I'll just teach myself.
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Oh well... I guess I'll just teach myself.
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I would start first by sending some kernel devs like flar2 or Zarboz a pm asking them for some of the most critical pointers or tips anyway.
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I've been using xda university and they have a lot of good links for free online schools for c and c+,++
Ya we are fortunate to have guys like flar2 and others who are very helpful. I think they are always looking for beta testers as well.
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Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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I am currently learning C/C++ at the moment... if you want to swap resources that you find, would love to do that
I'd really love to be able to develop as well but I've hit the same road blocks you have as well....
Picked up java and c++ a few months back. Would love to help out. Ooh, maybe we can start a team....toobearly? I have a 64bit PC running Linux mint
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If you just want to build a kernel, check out my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847344
If you have any questions about those steps, feel free to shoot me a PM or join in IRC chat (channel #cyanogenmod-evita on webchat.freenode.net). Just mention my username (rohan32) and I'll be pinged to come help out
If you are talking more about customizing kernels, feel free to shoot me a message about that too. I don't know as much as I'd like to but i can definitely help you out whenever im free with anything you have questions about regarding android or whatever.
And that goes for anyone... I'm always willing to help anyone who wants to learn how to get started. I myself was in your same shoes only a year back, and not trying to sound pretentious, but look at me now compared to where i was just a year ago. I consider myself pretty knowledgable about most stuff for the most part and I didn't have anyone to teach me regularly, so imagine what you can do with someone who can I know how it feels to be in your shoes, and I'd love to help you guys out since I know how it feels like a struggle to you
Wow rohan! That is freaking awesome! Thanks! Nice talking to you on irc as well
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Rohan this is awesome... I've been searching xda and Google and I must say your guide is probably the most detailed... I appreciate it more than you know...
As my original post had stated, I'm extremely limited because of my computer... (The wife won't let me do phone tasks on the laptop lol)
So I've seen a few pages using 32 bit to compile ROMs and kernels... I know mine won't do Roms, I know it'll probably melt the processor lol.... But I should be able to at least compile a kernel with 32 bit? Are the commands the same or would I have to do something different? I'm having trouble just getting started... Terminal in ubuntu is a bit trickier than windows and I can't seem to get the paths right even to my home folder... FML lol...
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Rohan this is awesome... I've been searching xda and Google and I must say your guide is probably the most detailed... I appreciate it more than you know...
As my original post had stated, I'm extremely limited because of my computer... (The wife won't let me do phone tasks on the laptop lol)
So I've seen a few pages using 32 bit to compile ROMs and kernels... I know mine won't do Roms, I know it'll probably melt the processor lol.... But I should be able to at least compile a kernel with 32 bit? Are the commands the same or would I have to do something different? I'm having trouble just getting started... Terminal in ubuntu is a bit trickier than windows and I can't seem to get the paths right even to my home folder... FML lol...
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Lol I know what you mean, I'm not a big ubuntu fan on its new version, good thing is with linux there is so many diff os built around same tools. I like using Mint instead of ubuntu , what's tricky is all the different packs to unload
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Uh so I'm getting this pretty much can't be done unless your running some distro of linux??
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Since android is linux based I think most devs use some sort of linux. A lot of these devs are like coding genius.
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So I think the first step for me would be making myself at home in linux...something I would not find too easy to do.
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So I think the first step for me would be making myself at home in linux...something I would not find too easy to do.
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Well, you could do what I did. Grab a distro, and get acustom to it. I prefer it over Windows now. I only use Windows when I need to use certain windows application. But most of the time I can use Wine (windows emulator in linux). I use linux mint, which is based off of ubuntu and uses the debian system. Fedora is another good. I suggest trying out different distrso by doing the live usb run. If you like it, partition your drive and dual boot windows...it is really simple
I just got ubuntu all setup in vmware. Ready to go now.
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Hmm I could be wrong but I don't think vmware works well with the process. I know to use jet downgrade tool you have to be running it solo. I think you can install it in windows but I do believe you have to boot into it vs vmware. Now you got me curious , I'm gonna try a couple things .
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Hmm I could be wrong but I don't think vmware works well with the process. I know to use jet downgrade tool you have to be running it solo. I think you can install it in windows but I do believe you have to boot into it vs vmware. Now you got me curious , I'm gonna try a couple things .
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I don't see why a vm would be a problem but if so, can always boot usb with persistent storage
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Hmm I could be wrong but I don't think vmware works well with the process. I know to use jet downgrade tool you have to be running it solo. I think you can install it in windows but I do believe you have to boot into it vs vmware. Now you got me curious , I'm gonna try a couple things .
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I remember something to that effect in the jet thread myself, but I understood it have to do with having to connect to the phone. But I don't see a problem when it comes to compiling a kernel and such.
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