I am interested i n learning how to create software for my phone I have a Samsung vibrant anybody who can offer any help I will accept it openly
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Hello I'm in the same boat. I was told to practice JavaScript and HTML. Believe me I've spent all day reading and searching and I have a head ache
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Development for Android is done mostly in Java. It is very simple programming language, after a few weeks of practice you should be good at it. Here you have a tutorial on how to create first Application: http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html
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Development for Android is done mostly in Java. It is very simple programming language, after a few weeks of practice you should be good at it. Here you have a tutorial on how to create first Application: http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html
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Not applications I'm talking a about things like roms
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The New Boston
The new boston has a 200 video series on android application development. It's a little bit dated but if you go to http://thenewboston.org/index.php. It shows you specifically how to develop for android 2.2 (froyo). that being said most (if not all) of those applications should fun just fine on any OS 2.2 and above.
The main things is that you are using the API level from 2.2 so unless you change it later on you won't be able to use newer features. BUT... it can take someone from 'eeerrr I think this be mah keyburd' to 'Yeah, i just wrote and android app and put it on the market. BYAAAH!!!'.
Definitely worth checking out. I checked it out and when they came out they were cuttign edge pretty much (like a year ago lol).
Once again http://thenewboston.org/index.php
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HA... I just realized that you said ROMS. well that is a completely different story... that is really trial and error until you figure out how everything works.
If you aren't running on ubuntu then download virtual box:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Once you have that the EASIEST way to get started is to download the ISO for ubuntu 10.04:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
Once you have created the Virtual machine with ubuntu 10.04(simply because it is the best for development):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC6jSiGSbUE
Then I recommend to get your environment setup you follow the instruction at the below site:
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Now that I actually read what you were askign for and am not a complete tard... hope this helps.
I looked it up and it also gave me a link on how to set up Ubuntu. So my next question is, where do you get source codes? I myself have a vibrant so of course it doesn't get source code updates although I know that some ports are from the gnex
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Is it fairly easy to pick up then? I program in a language called SAS and I have done bits of Java and VB in the past.
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Is it fairly easy to pick up then? I program in a language called SAS and I have done bits of Java and VB in the past.
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That's what I'm trying to figure out I haven't done programming but I usually pick up quick on tgings I would ask a dev for my service but they have a lot on their plate as it is
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sounds like xda veterans should compile an Android rom "how to for dumb dumbs" e book and put it for sale in the play store and on Amazon self publishing. you'd probably make a fair amount for yourselves and the site, depending on how you went about it; problem is I think all forums on this site would then be totally flooded with repeats, duplicate functions mods, crap roms, and just generally bring the average level of code down to hella-sloppy levels. yikes, pick your poison
I understand that serving requires a lot of time butnim serious about this. Not o my that my friend has an lg lucid and I have other people who would like development for that pho e which I would help with hopefully
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I understand that deving requires a lot of time butnim serious about this. Not o my that my friend has an lg lucid and I have other people who would like development for that pho e which I would help with hopefully
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Not applications I'm talking a about things like roms
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roms are also largely in java (or davlik, anyway)
You can start by compiling something like CM10 (not an easy task, I might add).
Most devs begin because there's something they are itching to have but that doesn't exist. Once you've successfully compiled, you can start tweaking these things in.
is there no how-to guide somewhere for your-first-compiling and what-files-do post for dummies somewhere?
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is there no how-to guide somewhere for your-first-compiling and what-files-do post for dummies somewhere?
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Yes I did recently find one in the vibrant forum on how to setup and compile using Ubuntu
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thanks
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So I want to make an app but have NO experience...are there any tutorials? I want to make simple and advanced apps(maybe for some extra cash? Lol) any help?
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Why don't you go to the official android developers page?
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Not everyone knows how to find the pages they need. Perhaps provide a link? I assume he hasn't come across that yet since he's asking.
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http://developer.android.com/index.html here you go
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http://developer.android.com/index.html here you go
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Thank you, I will start there. I knew about it but not exactly where it was..also if there are other tutorials out there I would be more than happy to have them thanks
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Are there any shorter guides or maybe easier way to go through I am overwhelmed with all of this info
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Are there any shorter guides or maybe easier way to go through I am overwhelmed with all of this info
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Programming is always hard. I suggest starting with a simple app that has 3 screens and a couple of buttons for interaction and maybe some images.
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Do you have any suggestions for staring apps for this
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Anyone?
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Anyone?
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First of all, do you know how to write in Java? Because none of the tutorials I have found include that part. You will find it very hard if you don't! Pick up a book on Java, and read all the way through it first. I found books better than online for some reason. It doesn't matter if the book is a few years old, many of the concepts will be the same.
Then find some beginning tutorials for developing Android apps. I've found a few, and I will update this if I find any more, but here are some:
http://hackaday.com/2010/07/12/android-development-101-–-a-tutorial-series/
http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
http://androidwizard.net/ -- Make sure you have a look at the beginner ones first, because there are many tutorials here.
Then if you require more detail, move on to the info at developer.android.com/ as it is more advanced (well its aimed at users who already know a bit).
I would also learn just some basics on how a program flows. It is essential since most programmers know several languages or are able to know how to read code without knowing the syntax. After you get the basics down, look through all the examples given with the SDK and see if you understand it. Hope that helps. Good luck!
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Do you have a suggestion for the type of java for the book? I am using eclipse
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Anyone
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I read "Sams Teach Yourself Android Application Development in 24 Hours". It was pretty cheap and they also have a java one. It was a nice start, pretty good explanation of code and space out each part so not overwhelmed.
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Should I read the java one first? And where would I get this book? Im just wanting to learn this.
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I only read the android one. I would say read the android one and if you are lost after the second or third chapter, read it again (they are short) and if still not understanding then get the java one. It all depends on you're background and current knowledge...also remember Google is you're friend for words/statements that you don't recognize. Hope that helps, and.you can get book at barnes and noble or borders. It seems to be a common book.
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Thank you I will look into getting that book
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I got the android one and might have to get the java one after looking at this
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Anything you don't understand you can just ask questions about and and we all can try to explain it in better terms for you.
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Anything you don't understand you can just ask questions about and and we all can try to explain it in better terms for you.
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If so, I might be able to help. I have one degree in component level electronics and a second in software development. I have programmed
in Assembly C, Java, C#, VB, PHP, BASIC, and BASICA. I have created complete TTL and analog circuits. Put a PIC and an ROM socket on a blank ISA expansion card, programmed EPROMs for it, and ran code that I wrote off of them. Some of those skills are a little rusty, but I can pick them back up. I can read nearly any programming language. I can install, configure and administor Linux. I started with Redhat 6. That and the ISA references should date me a little.
If you think these skills would be beneficial to this development community and would be interested in mentoring, I would be interested in helping out.
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Chirp chirp. Chirp chirp.
(Who knew an online forum could have so many crickets. They look so life like. I wonder which engine they used to render them?)
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Well, never mind. The digital crickets have consumed half of my fingers. I can no longer type.
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I think it's more a case of some people are a bit dumbstruck at such a kind offer to help
If you want a project I can think of a few
Edit - As for the age thing, some of us have had the joy of lifting a 100+kg lump of a MicroVaxII up a flight of stairs
Well, based on the microvax, you either got a few years on me or worked at a company that was behind the times. Are they still holding onto their AS/400?
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I suspect I have a few more years on you
Would you believe a certain mega finance company with the letters G and E in their name still run AS400 somewhere
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If so, I might be able to help. I have one degree in component level electronics and a second in software development. I have programmed
in Assembly C, Java, C#, VB, PHP, BASIC, and BASICA. I have created complete TTL and analog circuits. Put a PIC and an ROM socket on a blank ISA expansion card, programmed EPROMs for it, and ran code that I wrote off of them. Some of those skills are a little rusty, but I can pick them back up. I can read nearly any programming language. I can install, configure and administor Linux. I started with Redhat 6. That and the ISA references should date me a little.
If you think these skills would be beneficial to this development community and would be interested in mentoring, I would be interested in helping out.
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So can i ask, are you planning on developing and modding?
Do you have a certain section you are wanting to work on eg, lg optimus2x?
what are your plans with all the knowledge.
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You can help us in Kyocera Zio M6000 Development, we desperately need some help getting CyanogenMod ported to our device, our source code is available from Kyocera. I'm sure there would be many people that are willing to donate for your work.
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Totally!
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Personally I would like to learn how to extract the oem drivers from stock roms and add them to vanilla android and release a vanilla Rom for each phone.
But, I would like to get involved in an existing project to learn first. Having an educated idea about how to do something and actually doing it are two different things.
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That sounds cool. Even though I like vanilla, I still like the cm mod.
If I could get someone to introduce me to things I would be more than happy to help.
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Can I ask you what age did you learn your first programming language?
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I started learning when I was about 13. BASIC on a qusario (sp) 8 bit computer someone gave me. It was also my first hardware hack. My mom didn't have the money to by the cassette storage drive for it, but the five pin din cassette port was right there on the side and I wired it up to my little sisters rainbow bright cassette player. It was about five more years until I got my hands on serious hardware though and things just took off from there.
I've been working as a professional developer for eight years now. Professionally I do mostly .net desktop apps, web apps, and services.
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Wow, I wish I have started at a young age. I'm 18 now and in the process of learning Java. hope it's not too late.
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No, I know people that didn't start until collage, but they learned. I think your brain being wired in a particular fashion helps you learn programming faster, but as long as you are good with logic you should do fine. Practice practice practice.
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I'd be more than happy to help out, I just don't have a reliable internet connection at the moment, I should be back in the development game soon.
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ok guys imma try and make a rom for g2x with sense3.0, so i need alittle help, where do i start? and its there a thread i can read on that will help me alittle?
and if anyone will let me use their patches and stuff i guess we can both take credit? but i (and who ever helps me out) will be the first to make sencce for g2x
Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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Wtf are u talking about?
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sounds like he wants to try and learn how to develop rom's, with no experience in development. but he's wanting to build a rom for the g2x that incorporates sense3.0? that's what i interpreted.
So someone needs to go to the book store,library, or Google and start reading on Linux, java (more app based from what i read), and other books on code that's used in mobile development
correct me if I'm wrong anywhere in this response.
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Wtf are u talking about?
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That's exactly what I am talking about... How many times have you written something like that after someone responds to your posts? I get that you want to do a sense rom for the g2x... It also seems like you want to use others work(and give them credit, of course). Hop on to amazon or head to your local bookstore, there are whole sections about android development...
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I'm just talking about them giving me advice,
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Expert developers are EXTREMELY challenged to port over platforms from other brands. To think that your going to do it with no experience is never gonna happen. Start easy, download CM source code, try to modify things, and maybe in a few months you can put something out for us. If making a rom was that easy, we would all do it.
Were do I start!!!!
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get a book and read.
start with learning JAVA (this is if you have no programming experience)
once your familiar with JAVA and feel comfortable reading JAVA code and writting in JAVA.
then go get a book on ANDROID Development. I found a great book to learn about android development called " Hello Android", by the first 15 pages i had already made a somewhat complete Sudoku app, not out of interest but as this was the lesson in the book i was on.
No one can help you until you want to help your self, not trying to be a dbag but sounds like your wanting someone to walk you through step by step and through previous experience trying to verbally or explain to someone through text on to do something as complex as coding with them having little or no knowledge on the fundamentals and basics is/will be very difficult and frustrating for you and the person trying to guide you.
ps... might not hurt if you learn how to read/write/understand linux as android is based ontop of linux from my understanding
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Were do I start!!!!
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Come on dude! Do you ever read people's comment?
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Were do I start!!!!
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http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html
good luck.
Google is your friend!
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Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.
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I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.
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I thought his keyboard is broken or something.
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Dude you are talkin about a near impossible feat! your first rom porting sense to a non sense phone? Not gonna happen man... come on you gotta be realistic... you might wanna START making a variation of stock... since that would be the easiest....
Is it possible to build my own android app (even if I am a noob with no real knowledge of programming)?
I know of "App Inventor for Android", but it barely has any options from what I see
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I basically want to build an Alarm Clock for myself
(and maybe other will like it too)
THANKS
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Is it possible to build my own android app (even if I am a noob with no real knowledge of programming)?
I know of "App Inventor for Android", but it barely has any options from what I see
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I basically want to build an Alarm Clock for myself
(and maybe other will like it too)
THANKS
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To make an Android app, you should learn java. Then look at the documentation for developers on the official Android website. If you do not know how to code, then you will end up with some premade app, that gives you little customization as to what it is. I do not know how to code but when I have the time, I will learn.
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Where does one learn how to code? Is that something people learn in Computer Scenic degrees?
just wondering...
Use this video to learn.! Its much easier and from a reputable source.! Its an hour long though. They explain very well, I thing they also have a rom development vid also.! Subscribe to them.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=lESZqCflB0o&v=lESZqCflB0o&gl=US
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Use this video to learn.! Its much easier and from a reputable source.! Its an hour long though. They explain very well, I thing they also have a rom development vid also.!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=lESZqCflB0o&v=lESZqCflB0o&gl=US
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Thank you!!! the Link is broken though
The code is written in java. Learning java (plenty of books and websites out there to learn the basics) is step one. Downloading the android SDK and Eclipse or Netbeans IDE is step two. That's it. Once you learn the basics of java you'll know what to do with the sdk and the ide, both have detailed instructions in the programs help section to help, as the "hello world" script is their beginners walkthrough example. Also, there are some good video tutorials on you tube that walk you through the entire process from getting the SDK to posting your app on the android market. As is the case with most questions, google is your friend, and you tube is his brother.
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Thank you!!! the Link is broken though
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Hey (The new Youtube is very convenient, this new link is a link to a bunch of videos) I am currently studying these videos and find them EXTREMELY helpful, this is a more visual approach, because like most, reading words for 3 hours doesnt work, and apologies for the previous link, I sent it from my phone!
Check out these vids by MarakanaTechTV HERE
Thanks so much !
No probs man.!
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Ever want to learn C? Want to build a rom too?? Well this thread will then be for you! I have combined learning C with building a rom in a small little program that is sent to github and well committed. The best part is, you the learner, will have the ability to submit additions you do to the program with your new C skills and have it published right here in this thread with your name! Cool right?
So first things first, you have to git clone the source
just run the command below
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git clone git://github.com/simonsickle/build_helper.git
Now, learn C and have fun. There are tutorials here that are teaching C here on xda, and this provides real life working WARNING free examples. It shows you how make files work, linking objects with the linker to get one bianary (like the kernel) and how to make code available to other built in files. It also shows you how to use an include/ directory.
if you submit code, please post a patch here with the purpose (for learning purposes) this can be done by running
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diff -rupN unchangedfoldername/ folderwithmychanges/ > mychange.patch
in turn, patches can be applied with
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cd mycodedir/
patch -p1 < /location/of/patch/patchname.patch
Any suggestions are welcome, as well as all discussion. Eventually I want to teach you how to compile this code on the NDK and use a library to build ssh support in so you could ssh to a build server and run the scripts from your phone.
Wow this is a really nice idea, I hear from so many people who want to learn but get overwhelmed. This guides people over that hump. This is what the android community should be all about.
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Exactly the point. I want to encourage development as it is a passion in my life! Some guys love playing football, I love creating things from scratch. It is like an art to me, It comes from how i feel, what I want to do. What needs to be changed in the world. Coding can change everything in the world, with a simple language such as C or as complex as ASM. Without programmers, tinkers hackers, and passionate hobbiers where would the human race be? Back in the 50's with the cool cars that ran on led fuel. Now, lets go forward, and innovate with an open source license so no one can litigate
I will take a look at this Thanks.
im assuming this is only for use on linux machines and not windows?
Well you cant build a ROM in windows anyways. I was considering a ssh plugin but this is a boredom project i work on
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im assuming this is only for use on linux machines and not windows?
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Most of the low-level programming is similar between Windows/Linux. It's when you get into GUI programming is when things get strange and complicated. But as the OP states, you cannot build Android on Windows. Hint: ( dual boot )
@OP
Thanks for the useful thread And that isn't Sevierville, TN is it?
Virtual os in windows works too if you like that route. Slower though.
And yes sevierville Tennessee. Or as out of Towner's call it seevervill
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Virtual os in windows works too if you like that route. Slower though.
And yes sevierville Tennessee. Or as out of Towner's call it seevervill
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Next time you get online you'll see why I asked.
Ahh Knoxville. I was just through there when i went to ORNL. May be going to utk for a few years too
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Well you cant build a ROM in windows anyways. I was considering a ssh plugin but this is a boredom project i work on
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Ok looks like I'm using my really bad laptop lol. I have raid 0 on my desktop and for some reason linux distros don't like it.
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Raid and Linux works fine. Sure it takes a little more setup but it should always be possible. I mean, Linux works in some toasters anyways you may want to try a good ole virtual box
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Raid and Linux works fine. Sure it takes a little more setup but it should always be possible. I mean, Linux works in some toasters anyways you may want to try a good ole virtual box
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If I give you the error logs of the ubuntu install do you think you could help me out? In a pm of course. Dont wanna change the topic of your thread.
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Yeah post them here its relevant. When i have time, i enjoy helping others and the community publicly. This makes the community better
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Yeah post them here its relevant. When i have time, i enjoy helping others and the community publicly. This makes the community better
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I haven't been able to get a hold of my desktop for a while. Caught up in school work but I will probably have those logs by Tuesday or Wednesday.
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Also I have to ask. I've wanted to develop a graphics focused ROM. Are most of the graphics in a ROM pictures or code (as HTML can make pretty convincing graphics with text)? I'm a graphic designer and want to make a ROM no ones ever seen before. Not just a theme but a totally redesigned UI. Something revolutionary.
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OK so I found a tutorial on YouTube surrounding the jist of the problem... Its a tutorial on how to install Ubuntu on a raid 0 array... According to this video I need to have 2 hard drives. Is there a way I can just partition? I don't have 2 hard drives unfortunately and I don't wanna result to using my really slow laptop lol. Although I could probably just take a hard drive it of one of my older computers and put it in one of my other bays.
Here's the tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2rZe2Z9as&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Raid is two drives though. Or should be.
Graphics in a ROM are image in fora of .PNG
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Raid is two drives though. Or should be.
Graphics in a ROM are image in fora of .PNG
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I have raid 0 array with 1 hard drive. I think it has something to do with my chip set. Yeah... My computers all screwed up. Contemplating completely rebuilding it.
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Raid is two drives though. Or should be.
Graphics in a ROM are image in fora of .PNG
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Got another HDD... Should I turn off raid?
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Well really in my experience unless they are ssd the advantage during a build isn't as great as it could be.
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Well really in my experience unless they are ssd the advantage during a build isn't as great as it could be.
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Hey bro... it says the repository couldn't be found :/. Got Ubuntu installed. And have git.
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