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touch pro for $450??? Is this REAL?

http://www.metrocellinc.com/htc-touch-pro.html
was the first listing on google.
Anyone know????

ekerbuddyeker said:
http://www.metrocellinc.com/htc-touch-pro.html
was the first listing on google.
Anyone know????
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Gotta be a crock tbh.
Cheapest ive seen it around and according to our vendors list is £490 (notice pounds).

mrvanx said:
Gotta be a crock tbh.
Cheapest ive seen it around and according to our vendors list is £490 (notice pounds).
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I'm gonna have to agree this seems like a crock. I paid £424.80 without VAT at hantech.co.uk

Umm stay clear is my advice......with a "business email that is a yahoo email address. In the uk i always check for a VAT number, not sure if its the same over there, but there seems to be very little info about them......

What the hell is VAT? I see that on all the Europian sites. What exactly is it.

Vampire2800 said:
What the hell is VAT? I see that on all the Europian sites. What exactly is it.
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Value Added Tax. see the wiki description here.

VAT
Value Added Tax,
It's the equivalent of the State Sales Tax, however for the UK it's a massive 17.5% - OUCH

All sites in the UK show their registered VAT number, which is unique to that business. I purchased cheep software (MS Office) from a site once, didnt have a vat number, and the software turned out to be hacked.

The Real Deal Or Not!
Anybody know about this website, is it the real or not? uhhh! I think I will do some research on this website tomorrow............!

I call BS. If you think it's too good to be true, it probably is.

total BS! think about it.

Kitchicus said:
It's the equivalent of the State Sales Tax, however for the UK it's a massive 17.5% - OUCH
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Duh
In the Netherlands the legal thieves (government) take a humungous 19%
And they were even considering to raise it to 20%, but that had so much economic consequences that they didn't dare to do so.
But on-topic now: It has to be fake.
I bought the Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) for €602.= , est. £400,= or $870,=
That was almost the cheappest price possible in the netherlands.
So $450,= is almost 50% off, can't be legit.

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ronh said:
Duh
In the Netherlands the legal thieves (government) take a humungous 19%
And they were even considering to raise it to 20%, but that had so much economic consequences that they didn't dare to do so.
But on-topic now: It has to be fake.
I bought the Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) for €602.= , est. £400,= or $870,=
That was almost the cheappest price possible in the netherlands.
So $450,= is almost 50% off, can't be legit.
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I got my peolpe checking it out now!

Metrocellinc?
Well I was suprised too ...and I e-mailed them,so that's what I was told:
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ME: "I would like to buy Xperia X1, but before that I have a few questions:
First of all I would like to ask why are those cell phones so cheap and are they clones?Are they woking properly and can I use them to Europe?
Second how can you sell Xperia when the world premiere of that phone is in November?
How can I be sure that is secure? And what is the cost of delivery to Williamsburg VA? And how can I return it (if I'm not pleased) and have the full price back?"
Metrocellinc: "Thanks for your Inquiry.
We have the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 available in stock, Brand New, Unlocked, Factory Sealed and comes with a 1 year warranty.
You have been able to find phones at this price due to our Summer closeout sales (offer valid while stock last) We are Authorised sony dealers and we are currently on introductory sales into the market.
You will be getting a 3days return policy and a 1 year warranty. The X1 is compatible with any carrier anywhere in the world as it supports triband and quadband.
Delivery is $40
How many units do you intend to purchase?
We accept payments via Money Gram. Do you know where a Money Gram Agent is located?
Regards,
Jean."
Me: "Can I Pay with Visa?"
Metrocellinc: "At this time we are unable to accept payments via Credit Cards as we are currently facing problems with our credit card processor.
Money Gram is the only payment alternative."
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Althought there's no note about that paying problem in their site!!!
Also...
do they look familiar?
http://www.cellconet.biz/htc-touch-pro.html
http://phonecot.com/index.html
http://weberstores.us/mobile-phones.html
http://market-actionsltd.com/electronics.html
http://www.electronikstore.com/mobile-phone.html
http://pacificproductsltd.com/ -the last one has Registered No.05990322

JOJIA said:
Metrocellinc: "At this time we are unable to accept payments via Credit Cards as we are currently facing problems with our credit card processor.
Money Gram is the only payment alternative."
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FYI wire transfers are bad ...
http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/mrkt_safety/instantcashtransfer.html#moneygram
even they tell you it can be bad
http://moneygram.com/MGI/EN/ConsumerProtection/index.htm?CC=US&LC=EN

now down to 484 inc vat at expansys

This is a scam...like jodia I emailed them for validity. Never heard back after I told them COD only!
MetroCellInc:"Hi, Thanks for your Inquiry. We have the Htc Touch Pro available in stock, Brand New, Unlocked, Factory Sealed and comes with a 1 year warranty. This is a worldwide unlocked version. 100% compatible with T-Mobile. How many units do you intend to purchase and where will you be shipping to?
For payments we can only accept Money Gram at this time as we are currently facing technical problems with our Credit Card processor.
Regards, Jean."
Me:"Hi Jean, Unfortunately, our Company is not authorized to use Moneygram. We can only use MC, Paypal, or Cash On Delivery (COD). Since your MC Card processor is broke, you can mail it COD to complete this sale."

...so the last reply is:
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Metrocellinc:
"At this time we can only accept payments via Money Gram. Below are the details needed to send funds via Money Gram:
Receiver's First Name: Emma
Receiver's Last Name: Depoe
Address: 20330 Northeast 2nd Avenue, Miami, Florida 33133
Amount: $440
Once payment is sent, you are to send the Reference Number, Sender's Name and Address as it appears on the payment receipt for confirmation.
Regards,
Jean."
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I don't feel secure about this!!!Although the prices are fantastic....
....again too good to be true

Hmmm heavily underpriced, Payment exclusivly MoneyGram? Definite Scam. This kind of thing is often all over ebay. Has anyone actually gone through with a transaction with this crowd and got anything?
If yer looking for a cheap Raphael take a look at the Raphael Vendor Wiki
I keep that up to date weekly and at this time the top 3 cheapest sellers are Tiga Dua Cellular in Indonesia for €497.43 , 2Call from Netherlands for €576.00 and DigiTec of Switzerland for €585.60.
The most expensive I've seen is €739.00 in Portugal by Fnac.
Anyways Head to the Vendor Wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Vendors
If you know any other retailers add them to the wiki

From http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17890:
I was scammed by an electronics seller which offers iphone 3G, Nokia, and all phones of the moment. (they say they are located in the US but i´m not sure of this!)
DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM HIM !! THIS IS A BIG SCAM !!
the link :http://my-diversitydepotinc.com/
but also
http://www.cellphoneltd3g.com
and for sure other ones powered by e-yahoo which allows anyone to create a store on the internet. They also have a cart system...
Big scammer !!!
And of course, the money was send via Western Union to a certain :
Emma DEPOE
139 High Road
FL 32304 Tallahassee
My so called customer´s contact was: Patrick M. Peters.
Dont make the same mistake as i did and just be aware that companies which have an account by e-yahoo, even with a good looking site, may be a scam. Be sure not to pay with Western Union or unsecure ways.
SCAM SCAMMER :
cellphoneltd3g.com
solution-connection-mart.com
phonesuperstoreinc.com
phonecitytelecommunications.co
metrocellinc.com
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[Q] Help with the rebate form

To the T-Mob customers from the US on here, if you filled out the rebate form and mailed it, I have a few questions:
1. Do I need a postage stamp? (I'm sorry if this is the dumbest question you've ever heard, but I've never mailed anything before least of all a rebate form.) Is that a special sort of mail?
2.For the "proof of purchase" part, the T-Mob store that I bought my Sensation from attached an invoice to my already filled out rebate form. Now I asked him clearly if all I had to do was mail the two pages in just as they are, and he said yes. However, I just realized after I left the store that there is a space for "Signature ________" and "Date________" . Do I need to sign and date this ? Or is that not necessary?
Again, I'm really sorry if I'm being extremely dense, I just don't want to mess it up and have to deal with resubmitting.

it needs postage unless it specifically says "Postage Paid For" on it

I got mine thru walmart and didn't have to mail a rebate and only paid $148 as opposed to $250 with a $50 mail in rebate. Anyone thinking about getting a sensation should try it if you want to save some cash.

asj2583 said:
I got mine thru walmart and didn't have to mail a rebate and only paid $148 as opposed to $250 with a $50 mail in rebate. Anyone thinking about getting a sensation should try it if you want to save some cash.
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I wanted to do this, but I am not the primary account holder, just an authorized user. And I wasn't about to drag my dad to wal-mart Sunday morning to get it

I also have a question.
If the IMEI on the Sensation doesn't match the one on the box, which on do I put on the rebate form?
The one on the Sensation that I checked under phone info, or the one on the box sticker?

isharma said:
I wanted to do this, but I am not the primary account holder, just an authorized user. And I wasn't about to drag my dad to wal-mart Sunday morning to get it
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doesnt matter..i am an authorized user and i walked into walmart and got my phone..makes no dif

iCaptivate said:
I also have a question.
If the IMEI on the Sensation doesn't match the one on the box, which on do I put on the rebate form?
The one on the Sensation that I checked under phone info, or the one on the box sticker?
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In this case you should run back and get your money back.... numbers should match.

iCaptivate said:
I also have a question.
If the IMEI on the Sensation doesn't match the one on the box, which on do I put on the rebate form?
The one on the Sensation that I checked under phone info, or the one on the box sticker?
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I'd be way more worried as to why the 2 are different!

xnifex said:
I'd be way more worried as to why the 2 are different!
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Yep something is not right there.

borodin1 said:
In this case you should run back and get your money back.... numbers should match.
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I bought it at a T Mobile store from sales rep, so it was legit. I didn't buy it off some bum on Craigslist.
I only noticed they were different when I was filling out the rebate form, now I'm wondering what IMEI I should put on there if not both.

Stupid question I know but was the rebate form in the box? If it was I totally missed it.

Same here. I didn't see any form with mine.

Rebate Process Explanation
As a T-Mobile employee let me explain the process clearly.
Your sales associate should have given you 3 sheets of paper upon leaving the store.
(If you DID NOT receive this form please be sure to return to the location where you purchased your device at or make sure it was not a dealer, but a CORE LOCATION)
1. Main Receipt
2. Copy of Receipt
3. Rebate Form
The Copy of receipt and rebate form should be stapled together.
Fill out the information exactly as directed on the form leaving nothing black that has a pink "required" next to it. Failure to do so will render your warranty void and you will not receive your rebate visa card.
The white label from your box must either be peeled (which may tear it) or cut from the box and placed inside the same envelope.
Please make sure the IMEI on your receipt, device and box all match. If not you will not receive your rebate.
You must purchase your own stamp and mail the envelope.
Must be postmarked on or no later than July 31st, 2011.
Rebate is only available to those who purchased the Sensation through a valid and authorized T-Mobile retail store. Refurbished devices purchased as an upgrade DO qualify. Devices purchased at Walmart and any other major supply chain do NOT count.
Offer is not valid for Flex Pay customers.
Please allow up to 8 weeks for us to process the information and or card.
Once sent you can then check your rebate status at WWW.TMOBILEREBATES.COM or call or Rebates dept. at 1-877-311-8853 for any questions or to check your status of rebate.
I hope I was able to help you with your question.
Have a great day.

What if you purchased online through the TMO website?

elvis_freshly said:
as a t-mobile employee let me explain the process clearly.
Your sales associate should have given you 3 sheets of paper upon leaving the store.
(if you did not receive this form please be sure to return to the location where you purchased your device at or make sure it was not a dealer, but a core location)
1. Main receipt
2. Copy of receipt
3. Rebate form
the copy of receipt and rebate form should be stapled together.
Fill out the information exactly as directed on the form leaving nothing black that has a pink "required" next to it. Failure to do so will render your warranty void and you will not receive your rebate visa card.
The white label from your box must either be peeled (which may tear it) or cut from the box and placed inside the same envelope.
Please make sure the imei on your receipt, device and box all match. If not you will not receive your rebate.
You must purchase your own stamp and mail the envelope.
Must be postmarked on or no later than july 31st, 2011.
Rebate is only available to those who purchased the sensation through a valid and authorized t-mobile retail store. Refurbished devices purchased as an upgrade do qualify. Devices purchased at walmart and any other major supply chain do not count.
Offer is not valid for flex pay customers.
Please allow up to 8 weeks for us to process the information and or card.
Once sent you can then check your rebate status at www.tmobilerebates.com or call or rebates dept. At 1-877-311-8853 for any questions or to check your status of rebate.
I hope i was able to help you with your question.
Have a great day.
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thank you :-d

almostinsane said:
What if you purchased online through the TMO website?
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Same theory. Just print receipt and cut the white level off of the box. For further assistance please visit www.tmobilerebates.com
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isharma said:
thank you :-d
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Welcome. But you can click the "thanks" button and I'd appreciate it even more.
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[Q] Am I being scammed?

I put a used GNexus (play store, purchased in the summer) up on Craigslist in the UK listed for £220 and local pick up.
Someone contacted me and offered £270 Paypal for it to be shipped asap (to the UK, I presume, though I'm waiting for the return e-mail). They would pay first and I would ship once I've received payment. This set off an alarm bell for me. They also wanted a Paypal invoice.
But seeing as how I would be paid first, I'm confused at why they would offer this.
Is this some kind of scam where they would claim not having received the item or something, and demanded a refund from Paypal?

I had this with three phones I tried to sell on gumtree.
The scam is they send a fake PayPal confirmation email saying the moneys been sent to yoir account but it hasn't
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zacthespack said:
I had this with three phones I tried to sell on gumtree.
The scam is they send a fake PayPal confirmation email saying the moneys been sent to yoir account but it hasn't
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Thanks. Is there any potential for scammage if I confirm via the Paypal site that the money has been deposited? Meaning can they somehow tell Paypal to revoke the money by, for example, claiming they never received the item or that it was damaged?

TSGM said:
I put a used GNexus (play store, purchased in the summer) up on Craigslist in the UK listed for £220 and local pick up.
Someone contacted me and offered £270 Paypal for it to be shipped asap (to the UK, I presume, though I'm waiting for the return e-mail). They would pay first and I would ship once I've received payment. This set off an alarm bell for me. They also wanted a Paypal invoice.
But seeing as how I would be paid first, I'm confused at why they would offer this.
Is this some kind of scam where they would claim not having received the item or something, and demanded a refund from Paypal?
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Yes it is a scam, one of the most popuar scams. A very popular one at that. Always meet in person, and always in a public place.

Cheap electronics site too good to be true?

I tried to find a place on XDA not specific to any phone to ask this question, but I didn't see a general Q&A spot. I was just randomly checking out phones and their going rates when I came across this site.
http://www.altiuscart.com/rainbowelectcomm/
It has stuff like the Note 2 for $330 new unlocked international version. and the Sony Experia Z for similar prices. I figure this has to be too good to be true, but they accept paypal. So doesn't this mean it's worth a shot? Paypal buyer protection should reimburse you if you don't get the goods right?
The back traced phone number shows
"740-318-8364
CoreComm landline from Sugar Grove, OH" (*edit* just called the number and it's not in service)
So it's not an international phone number. I guess it's fake since "rainbow electronics" comes up as being located in London. Is this person who created it just stupid? Are they making a profit if Paypal just takes the funds back if the product never arrives? If it's confirmed fake is there a way to report this, and who would it be reported to?

Doesn't sound legit, probably should check it out on http://safeweb.norton.com/ and do some research on the website.

Help needed importing a Samsung Relay to Germany

as i can see, most of us here went the G1 -> G2 -> Relay way.
unfortunatly i'm sitting here in germany where the Relay is not available. and all attempts importing one so far failed. amazon doesn't have it in stock, ebay sellers don't ship overseas etc.
Can anybody help me aquire such a phone? Either get me one and send it to me or point out a dealer that ships to germany?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.

kilr00y said:
as i can see, most of us here went the G1 -> G2 -> Relay way.
unfortunatly i'm sitting here in germany where the Relay is not available. and all attempts importing one so far failed. amazon doesn't have it in stock, ebay sellers don't ship overseas etc.
Can anybody help me aquire such a phone? Either get me one and send it to me or point out a dealer that ships to germany?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
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you have 3 options
1) negri electronics (they are trustworthy, i got my doubleshot from them)
2) canada gsm (never tried, and you gotta mail them to sort out the international shipping stuff before you order)
3) ebay
of course, going with ebay is the less expensive but the most risky option. i got my relay from ebay, i had to camp ebay.com for a while and message all the people that had a good auction open (try to stay away from fishy stuff that may be stolen or just a scam) and ask if they would ship oversea.
most of them do not, but some do, it's just a matter of patience.
keep in mind that you will have to pay the duties for importing goods, and they will probably be quite hefty, hovering around ~100€ if you go with a shop like negri electronics

Braccoz said:
you have 3 options
1) negri electronics (they are trustworthy, i got my doubleshot from them)
2) canada gsm (never tried, and you gotta mail them to sort out the international shipping stuff before you order)
3) ebay
of course, going with ebay is the less expensive but the most risky option. i got my relay from ebay, i had to camp ebay.com for a while and message all the people that had a good auction open (try to stay away from fishy stuff that may be stolen or just a scam) and ask if they would ship oversea.
most of them do not, but some do, it's just a matter of patience.
keep in mind that you will have to pay the duties for importing goods, and they will probably be quite hefty, hovering around ~100€ if you go with a shop like negri electronics
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The main reason why ebay sellers don't ship overseas, is due to customs and shipping. USPS Express mail, is the only way you can ship internationally with tracking. But some countries simply won't allow those shipments.
And the hassle of dealing with problems if something goes wrong...
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thanks for the 2 shops. i will look into it
i do a lot of international trading via ebay, but rarely with the US. but do i get this straight: in a country as large as the United States there is just one carrier which offers sending insured parcels overseas??? hard to believe...
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gtmaster303 said:
The main reason why ebay sellers don't ship overseas, is due to customs and shipping. USPS Express mail, is the only way you can ship internationally with tracking. But some countries simply won't allow those shipments.
And the hassle of dealing with problems if something goes wrong...
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this is incorrect information.
first of all, customs duties will be paid by the buyer when he receives the package. the seller won't even know how much will be paid.
second, you can ship overseas with any major courier like FedEx (i recommend), UPS, DHL and of course USPS which will then be handled by your local postal service.
about stuff going wrong (in the shipment phase) there isn't much if you pay with paypal and make sure the shipping is made via a trustworthy courier with a tracking number.
of course after you have got the phone, you'd be on your own if it has some problems but if you do it right the shipment shouldn't be that much of an issue

negri was out of stock so i just placed an order with canadagsm. camping ebay didn't work for me since i've already tried that one for some weeks.
as the story continues, i will post updates as others might be faced with the same situation

kilr00y said:
negri was out of stock so i just placed an order with canadagsm. camping ebay didn't work for me since i've already tried that one for some weeks.
as the story continues, i will post updates as others might be faced with the same situation
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What about a service like SHIPITO?
I am from Czech Rep and have a luck that many of my colleagues are flying to US on regular basis but this service could be used just for this very special purpose.

@fantomex:
yeah.. i stumbled over services like that and i'm considering it.
about canadagsm: i wrote a couple of mails with them back and forth about shipping and conditions and after everything was sorted out i told them that i would like to order. no answer from them now for 2 days. seems like it's back to the drawing board. :-/
found an ebay-seller who's willing to ship to germany, but auction is still up for 3 days... and dunno how that will turn out.
anybody can suggest more online stores that will ship to germany? spend an hour or two torturing google and co but it's hard getting any results since search results are filtered by location. and i guess i cannot deny my german IP ^ ^
found a couple of phone stores but they were either out of stock of didn't have the Relay listed at all.

weird that canadagsm stopped responding. anyway negri has written on its site that it is on backorder, and that they usually ship backordered items within few work days (they probably will just buy a phone then unlock and ship it) so i think you can try and ask them.
if you wanna go the ebay way, make sure you buy a perfect (mint) condition phone, no bad imei, and that the seller will ship with tracking to you. (and, ofc, paypal payment)

yeah.. it's weird about canadagsm.. took them an hour to reply to the initial mail. but now: nothing. already re-sent the mail twice..
will contact negri when i get home since the phone on ebay dissapeared without a trace all of a sudden..
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Hi
Ebay india has a sevice called 'global easybuy'. One can buy anything from ebay usa (irrespective of the seller ships internationally or not) and ebay will deliver to your doorstep. Shipping, customs etc charges are included at the time of payment and are quite nominal. Look for 'global easy buy' on ebay germany. Hope they have this service.

negri said: "we don't know. check our website for updates"...
i have found some forwarding services, but i don't feel to comfortable with it. none of them i ever heard of. don't consider it to be too safe at all with another anonymous person in the middle.
i'm on an ebay auction again atm which will end tomorrow. maybe i get lucky.
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hint: *cough* jbidwatcher *cough*

I'll ship you one if you paypal me the funds and agree not to sue me if the post office loses it. PM me.

thanks for the offer, nardholio, but i've got lucky on ebay. cell was $305, shipping was $45 via usps... and other means of shipping were clearly un-affordable.
brand new and sealed... and locked ^ ^ but that should be the least problem
let's see what the custom fee will be...
5 days and it made it to san francisco so far.. i guess that's why they call it "snail mail" ^ ^

it's here up and running cm10.1
spent another 50eur on customs. but... worth it
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OX Mobile Spy
I personally still relatively tend to eBay shopping, everything went smoothly, you can try.