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Remix Re-established Concept:
http://code.google.com/p/cupcake-frosting/
You can find previous updates and info there
Update 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CTGCPR4
Excellent idea! I was hoping someone would do this.
I'll load it up this morning and let you know if I see any issues!
Ahhh perfect, I was poking around to see what I would need to do to bring the multitouch browser to H (I already have the Voice Search and Dialer) and I find this. Thank's dude.
Hmmmm sounds tempting, but how does the speed compare to adp hr3?
diaztradeinc said:
Hmmmm sounds tempting, but how does the speed compare to adp hr3?
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Not 100% sure, but this loads faster on mine. I "overclock" to slow to save battery haha but I didn't notice a difference running hr3. I've been going back and forth trying to get what I need. The blue lock screen overlay is actually the MAIN reason I am doing this. Stupid, huh?
Key factor may be that I DID update the radio.
I did leave out superuser, spare parts, and anything else that can be installed normally for those who don't want them. I change my mind about apps hourly so I try to keep default installs as clean as possible to avoid troublesome adb commands.
This sounds very intersting. Does it include the Exchange integration from the 5.0H build?
This is EXACTLY what I've been waiting for... soon as you get locked down which apps ur keeping, I'm on it.
Sounds great twisted. I'm in love with 5.0.2H because of the mail app and pdfviewer. Yesterday I stepped up to ADP1.5 and although it was fast, it's missing these key components that I use daily. I look forward to you app log.
This is really interesting. I can't wait to hear(read) thee results. Lol
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This sounds very intersting. Does it include the Exchange integration from the 5.0H build?
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It currently has the 5.0.2 exchange. I saw no point in taking it out. I don't use it but I know it's far easier to remove system components like that than it is to implement them once an update is installed.
So far I see no real difference in Gmail. Mail seems to crash for me in 1.5 with something about a Plus account - looks like 5.0.2 mail stays. Maps and Market will be updated because I see no reason not to.
Any thoughts on Gmail? Anyone see any updates worth having?
Can you put the H build camera in the build instead of the 1.5.3 camera? The HTC camera was far superior than the google implementation. That's all I can think of so far
ala380 said:
Can you put the H build camera in the build instead of the 1.5.3 camera? The HTC camera was far superior than the google implementation. That's all I can think of so far
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H camera crashed when using the camera button. The one I'm using is the one from the "add features to 5.0.xH" thread. Seems to be the most stable and all you really lose is zoom. Forgot to take out additional HTCAlbum, though. Planning to fix this and some other updates when I get back to my hideout. If I can remap the H camera button I will get that in there, but that takes a little longer than just swapping apks.
a2sd
is this version an as2d version?
jamesbui12 said:
is this version an as2d version?
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Please allow me time to obtain all the information I need (and the conmplimentary copy of Paragon) before I begin posting parallel versions for those of you that require a2sd. Until then I am taking the advice of a pm and adding in the black vk. It is "slick"
Please feel free to follow me on twitter at the same name. Much as I have followed the trend of making one for such an endeavor.
Please excuse the fact that I edit my posts almost immediately. I view them from my G1 and while the logic may be flawed, I find them cleaner when words do not hang loosely into additional lines.
twistedumbrella said:
5.0.2hr5a-twisted:
Items From 5.0.2:
Messaging
Calendar
Contacts
Youtube (Temporarily)
Mail, Music, and Gmail
Widget Interface
Chinese Keyboard
Items From 1.5.3:
Multitouch Browser
VoiceSearch
VoiceDialer
Google Sync
Android Keyboard
Updated Camera
Updated Settings
Updated System
Updated Market
Updated Maps
This was for those, like me, that liked the original look and feel of the Haykuro 5 series builds and didn't want to miss out on the new features of the 1.5 series builds. My own firmware is very custom so no screenshots currently.
http://sharebee.com/1965e7ad
http://sharebee.com/c4919794
Please let me know if you test this and find any bugs. I know altering updates MAY cause items to crash when installed. I will fix them ASAP.
Currently in the process of checking out Dude's Cupcake to see if anything in there might improve the build.
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any chance you could add the launcher in from here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507244 Or does this now not have the problem when you slide out the keybord? Because im currently running an old version of this rom i think? I had to install G keybord my self so.. Almost deff :L lol, Oh dont meen to be fussy but ayway you you edit the title of the thread whenever you update? only this seems a very intrsting build as i tooo love the HTC look and dont wanna loose the feel exactly cheers for your work dude
everything seems to work. not seeing the multi-touch...suppose to be there right. not a big deal, just testing out the version.
How is this going?
Still developing the build?
Looks great, and appears to fit me perfectly!
However, what is the difference between the two builds that you link to in your first post?
Is the 5.0.2hr5-twisted.zip the normal version, while the 5.0.2hr5a-twisted.zip is the Apps2SD version?
Zappza said:
How is this going?
Still developing the build?
Looks great, and appears to fit me perfectly!
However, what is the difference between the two builds that you link to in your first post?
Is the 5.0.2hr5-twisted.zip the normal version, while the 5.0.2hr5a-twisted.zip is the Apps2SD version?
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Sorry apps2sd is still coming. Having technical difficulties with getting both my G1 and computer to recognize the same partitions. The new version has the Andreoid keyboard included along with updates to youtube, maps, and market. The slider problem still exists for a day or two. Wanted to get the new market in place because I isolated the market download issue to have been cooperation between market and launcher. Now that the new market accepts downloads I can fix launcher. Expect updates tomorrow. I have a 4-hour block of boredom. Hehe.
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everything seems to work. not seeing the multi-touch...suppose to be there right. not a big deal, just testing out the version.
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Still isolating libs and such. JesusFreke redid the kernel so the program alone was not enough. Didn't think that far ahead when I was throwing parts together. I'm learning as I tear apart the 7 builds on my desktop. I just have to teach myself as I go.
Open source never meant well-documented.
Plans are in the works to go backwards from the HTC build, but like most others I need something to default back to when I'm not testing. Building this version was first priority with that being my next step. That is when the speed increases will occur with some new features. Can't say I'm not a dreamer, right?
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Sorry apps2sd is still coming. Having technical difficulties with getting both my G1 and computer to recognize the same partitions. The new version has the Andreoid keyboard included along with updates to youtube, maps, and market. The slider problem still exists for a day or two. Wanted to get the new market in place because I isolated the market download issue to have been cooperation between market and launcher. Now that the new market accepts downloads I can fix launcher. Expect updates tomorrow. I have a 4-hour block of boredom. Hehe.
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Beautiful!
I love your work!
I have now more success with the Froyo 2.2 MotoBlur(Milestone 2) port to milestone but it required a more technical approach than just lib replacements here..
Most features seen in MotoFrenzy is also shared here. both good and bad ones. Battery wise this image offers utilities to manage wifi inactivity and battery training policies.
I feel that the features found in the MotoBlur, justify a more proper release, than initially, as Battery management and scalable widgets seems like nice features to me.
You can follow updates on Twitter now: Dexter Picard (DexterPicard) on Twitter or
me a Red bull, and you're sure i stay up working on this mod.
12.07.2013: Link to v0.2 here, since old website is no longer available
Full Image install instructionsYou can use G.O.T recovery for installation of the image or OpenRecovery 1.04 or 1.37+
Copy the included MotoBlur folder onto your sdcard
into the folder /nandroid/adbrecovery and recover from
G.O.T Recovery menu.First time install information- You can register with MotoBlur (Motorola) to activate additional mailing account features.
or press "menu" + "skip setup" to skip.
- SetupWizard might restart, please press "home" button to close, after skip or account setup.
- G.O.T recovery should offer you the option to partition your SDCARD if you
wish to use a ext2 partition for apps2sd functionality.
- Newest Overclock v1.4 included, default enabled at 550Mhz,
but you can take the sample "overclock" file from the .zip and copy to your SDCARD, and customize from bootup. you can modify content of the overclock file, but you need to find details on parameters on the authors webpage here.
Changelog
v0.2d
- native froyo apps2sd functionality, thanks to Nadlabak for the build.
now you can move apps in settings directly to sdcard where supported by apps.
v0.2c
- Battery indicator update, now levels from 0 to 100% full
- Statusbar indicator now shows if you are on a G/E network or 3G network.
v0.2b
- Fixed sms from Contacts menu.
- (0.2a) Fixed custom RSS feed option in NewsReader.
v0.2
- Partly based on new milestone 2 beta features (Including MotoBlur account activation) featuring;
- Adobe Flash 10 is now available from Market for droid2 !!
- Even more languages now Dutch, English , Spanish, French, German, Italian, Portugese
- enhanced phone audio (Crystal Talk v2?)
- Other phone functions.- GPS is working now.
- Phone, mobile data , SMS and Call waiting has been tested and working on this edition.
- Updated init.rc memory allocation according to DroidX init scripts (should improve performance)
- Added latest Gapps
- New Keyboard shortcut functions (hold all 3 keys to activate)
- Spotlight switch (LEFT SHIFT + A + DPAD CENTER)
- hw keyboard light switch (LEFT SHIFT + A + L)
- Enable apps2sd (LEFT SHIFT + A + U)
- Enable apps2sd (LEFT SHIFT + A + T)
- start adb (LEFT SHIFT + A + X)
- restart RIL(phone driver) *TEST* (LEFT SHIFT + A + SPACE)
- copy all downloaded apps (LEFT SHIFT + A + P)- Added Ext2 fsck function before mounting.
- Text-To-Speech now included again.
- Latest Overclock module(v1.4) is now activated (550Mhz) even if no "overclock" file is found on /sdcard
- Apps included (SetCpu , toggledata, Superuser)
v0.1a
- fixed SMS reception repeater, now only one instance occur of each sms.
- Internet media / Youtube playback problem, fixed.
- Removed emergency alert app, (US CDMA Users only)
Current state of this release is:
IssuesPartly based on milestone 2 release version.
Fully deodex'd rom (requires little more memory, but is sufficient in Motorola phone environment)
* It should noted, that Milestone 2 comes with 512MB RAM, which might for more hours become an issue on milestone, if froyo2.2 memory management handles this badly.WorkingMotoBlur Froyo2.2 functionality fully working.
Languages supported (enabled) Dutch, English , Spanish, French, German, Italian, Portugese
Data icons fixed (E/G/3G/H) is now shown.
Phone calls / Mobile data
Picture editor works.
Market fully working
Regular Wifi working
Bluetooth with advanced stereo functionality working.
Audio/Video playback of MPEG4,MP3, OGG etc..
Wifi DLNA supported (only picture sharing still seems working)
Overclock v1.4 app + module included. (overclock file on sdcard as option to customize settings)
File copying over Wifi between windows machines possible. (have seen problem copying to local phone though)
APPS2SD ext2 edition (not native function though)
Phone can be used without a sim card.
Not working/testedAP Wifi (not working). (Teether app included for now)
Camera/VideoRecorder (Focus problem)
USB (auto detect problems, hotfix will be released when working.)
BlockBuster DRM movie viewing
Backup services (work only with a valid Verizon sim-card)
apps removed
MyVerizon
CityID
Boot animation (took 4MB of system space, added QuickOffice instead)
BlockBuster application
Firewall service (missing libs in original stock firmware, might be on purpose it's removed)2.1 kernel limitations
As with the other 2.2 releases, these functions are limited due to missing kernel upgrades on our milestone.
Full RIL support cannot be implemented as driver is officially not available.
Camera kernel requirements for focus.
Native Apps2SD in settings.
Swap? (we could only hope)
Bugs certainly exists, as this image has many builtin functions, so if you find any, report them here, and ill look at it.
just try it,phone have no sound.....
but still smooth,does this overclocked??
how slow it is? It can be overclocked?
Downloading
This has been officially dropped now..
the Droid2 uses a different RIL driver handling using a socket for commication which out milestone currently does not support. so there is no chance of having drivers from any current firmware on milestone to run with the droid2 firmware.
you can get it running, but no audio on phone when talking, if you do see it running but calls are dropped, "ro.mot.eri=1" should be disabled to 0 if you wish to pursue testing it.. if it appears slow, you need to disable the "TtsService.apk" in the /app folder, and its runs optimal.
What will be the focus of your work now Dexter?
Silico said:
What will be the focus of your work now Dexter?
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back to something that actually just works (at least for me) Frenzy!!
will try to see if the data connection with E,H etc, gets to work..
testing a different libril on frenzy now..
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What will be the focus of your work now Dexter?
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i take that previous statement back! (MotoBlur was too good to pass by)
See updated Post #1 for info on next release.
Dexter_nlb said:
back to something that actually just works (at least for me) Frenzy!!
will try to see if the data connection with E,H etc, gets to work..
testing a different libril on frenzy now..
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Glad to hear you're going back to focus on Frenzy. I have pretty much zero interest in anything else until I have Froyo running on my Milestone properly. I'd be running it already if the camera and native A2SD were working.
Midda said:
I'd be running it already if the camera and native A2SD were working.
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you will have to wait for an official, as the kernl is all our problem here in regards to camera, which i have no idea on how to solve unless the droid 2.2 kernel gets out, and its can be extracted from this, so we know how the device should function for us.
i admit to not being able to fix camera or Apps2SD as it looks right now, as no kernel provides the solution we need.
At this point, my hope is that the people working on the Droid X find a way to circumvent the bootloader. In turn we could use it on the milestone.
Muito Bom,
Tô louco para testar
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At this point, my hope is that the people working on the Droid X find a way to circumvent the bootloader. In turn we could use it on the milestone.
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My point exactly too, i've been chasing up on the developers over at alldroid.org and at koushikdutta.com/ who both are developing ways to circumvent the bootloader. They said that there work couild be easily ported to our Milestone considering our phone uses the same locked bootloader as the Droid X. They have said that they will be releasing a version of Froyo tomorrow so I think it would be a good idea to see what there work involves and see if we can apply it to our Milestone.
www.alldroid.org
www.koushikdutta.com
Silico said:
My point exactly too, i've been chasing up on the developers over at alldroid.org and at koushikdutta.com/ who both are developing ways to circumvent the bootloader. They said that there work couild be easily ported to our Milestone considering our phone uses the same locked bootloader as the Droid X. They have said that they will be releasing a version of Froyo tomorrow so I think it would be a good idea to see what there work involves and see if we can apply it to our Milestone.
www.alldroid.org
www.koushikdutta.com
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Fingers crossed here.
Good news,thank you!
So, when can we have a first hand feel of your art-piece?
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
Hmmmm it seems that the Froyo image that will be released today for Droid X is actually a Leak. Therefore, it most likely will not imply circumvention of the bootloader.
Shame. Well, we will know for sure in a couple of hours.
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Hmmmm it seems that the Froyo image that will be released today for Droid X is actually a Leak. Therefore, it most likely will not imply circumvention of the bootloader.
Shame. Well, we will know for sure in a couple of hours.
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droid2 is a better match for our milestone, driver wise as well.
So i would not get my hopes up for droidx to be just as good port.
But with my changes in MotoBlur so far, its getting much better.
I have not updated thread here, but several fixes are added, and im trying to get USB activation working, so thats not an issue, which it suddenly became last night.. Testing is good!
Excellent job Dexer! Thanks so much for all your efforts.
Have you found a way to circumvent the Kernel problems with the camera and app2sd or is that still a dead end?
nsane said:
Excellent job Dexer! Thanks so much for all your efforts.
Have you found a way to circumvent the Kernel problems with the camera and app2sd or is that still a dead end?
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you hit a soft spot here, but no, with the protection motorola put on the kernel, and the fact that apps2sd functionality, swap, and the camera focuc driver is tightly integrated, and second we dont know how the focus driver works at all.
the official kernel2.2 for our milestone needs to get out, or maybe the droid 2.2 kernel source. but lets see how it goes..
Rumours are September, so lets hope it holds water...
First release v0.1 is now available online.
Mirrors will be posted, where i find the space to put 125MB.
Hi all, I've released my app in the market: PowerBoot.
PowerBoot let’s you schedule a reboot for your Android device.
Reboot modes:
-Normal;
-Recovery;
-Bootloader;
-Wipe Data;
-Shutdown.
Other features:
-Notifications;
-Quick Reboot Widget;
-In-Call Reboot prevention.
NEW in V1.2:
-Preferences Menu;
-Better design, graphics and functionality for the widget.
Next version will add an enhanced scheduling system.
ROOT REQUIRED!
The app is free; if you’d like to support the development, please consider buying the DONATE version, it will be much appreciated.
Contact me for any issues you could encounter.
QR Codes are at my web page: android.canovifabio.com
good job
i will be waiting next version
Nice app, thank you for your work
Cool app, only suggestion would be to include a re-o current scheduler.
Hi
Any chance of a similar application for WM.
Thank you
Thanks for the feedbacks!
I confirm that next update will be the recurring schedules enhancement.
I think I'll publish it by the end of september at worst since at this time I'm very busy with my real job and studies.
Please accept my apologies.
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Hi
Any chance of a similar application for WM.
Thank you
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I'm very sorry but I abandoned WM devices for Android last winter so I'm not developing for WM devices right now.
Fabio
App updated to version 1.2:
-Widget with better design and functionality;
-Preferences Menu;
This is a small update before the one that will bring enhanced scheduling system.
Works a treat mate, thanks!
Look forward to the recurring schedule update.
does not work for me on a rooted droid incredible running the stock 2.2 rom..
full root/s-off
The widget locks up my phone, and I cant switch homescreens on the senseui. Pushing the home key seems to "unlock" the phone and I can navigate around again.
I tried scheduling from within the app as well. The execute button goes gray and you cannot press it, but the phone never reboots..
It is added in my superuserpermissions as PowerBoot - reboot as roto(uid: 0)
Not sure what is going on since other people had success with it.
If I push reset after execute goes gray I receive an error message, reboot aborted: problem in the database.
nice app downloaded.
working on milestone 2.1 rooted just fine
strunker said:
does not work for me on a rooted droid incredible running the stock 2.2 rom..
full root/s-off
The widget locks up my phone, and I cant switch homescreens on the senseui. Pushing the home key seems to "unlock" the phone and I can navigate around again.
I tried scheduling from within the app as well. The execute button goes gray and you cannot press it, but the phone never reboots..
It is added in my superuserpermissions as PowerBoot - reboot as roto(uid: 0)
Not sure what is going on since other people had success with it.
If I push reset after execute goes gray I receive an error message, reboot aborted: problem in the database.
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As I said in the App description in the Market, rebooting on SenseUI-equipped devices through an Android app is hard because the commands to do that task are different and I don't know them yet.
So until I find a solution to that, devices running Sense may not be able to perform a reboot.
It's not my fault
BTW, this is what cause the strange behavior in your phone (fake "hang").
The error message is shown because that last attempt of rebooting is failed for the reason above mentioned and the database has then invalid data.
Any update on getting this to work with Sense UI? Have you talked with the developer who wrote Clockwork recovery? They can get the phone to reboot with Sense.
This thread might be helpful. I used the information here to reboot my phone on a schedule using Tasker.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776737
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Any update on getting this to work with Sense UI? Have you talked with the developer who wrote Clockwork recovery? They can get the phone to reboot with Sense.
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No update yet, still searching.
I'll ask them too, thanks!
Shutdown doesn't work
Hi:
Nice app.
In my DSTL1 the option Shutdown doesn't work. It says "Reboot aborted: problem in the database, retry"
The rest of the options work without problems.
Hi guys,
Little update: I'm not dead, I just had a busy month of Sept. for job and university exams.
I'm currently working on the update to PowerBoot so keep an eye on this thread or my blog for more updates in the coming days.
I apologies to you all!
@pirracas77: dunno why it does this with your device, the next update should solve the issue since it'll change database usage.
thanks for this app.
i'm just rooted my Hero.
Will be testing the app. No one app i ve had on my Hero doesn't work so easly.
thanks one more
pirracas77 said:
Hi:
Nice app.
In my DSTL1 the option Shutdown doesn't work. It says "Reboot aborted: problem in the database, retry"
The rest of the options work without problems.
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Hi, just a quick note to say I have the same problem when attempting to shutdown from the App (with exactly the same error meessage as reported by piraccas77), but no problem with shutdown from the widget. I am using CM6.0.2 on an HTC Desire.
This was using PowerBoot v1.2.
Just wondering if anyone ran into this issue. I've been playing bug village for a little while now, Avoiding paying for coins, I would set a few tasks a day for the bugs and check back to make sure they are fed.
For a few days in the game, I started getting black screens but, it came back and worked. Yesterday, it just stop totaly working, it loads to a black screen then exits. I can not enter the game any more and I am afraid of losing my place at level 15.
Does anyone know a fix for this or a way I can really backup this game, so I can uninstall it and not lose my place ???
Thanks for any advice !!!
There was an update releases yesterday. Did you update?
Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
Yea try updating it, either by waiting for the notification or by going to the game and hit update.
drupad2drupad said:
There was an update releases yesterday. Did you update?
Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
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Yea, I ran the update and still the same problem
My Ants have not eaten in days, someone help !
Why did this happen ? Others have claimed this issue but, no result.
Does anyone know a fool proof way to backup/restore my save data so I can attempt to uninstall/reinstall ?
Depends on your phone model and firmware version. For Samsung or certain older HTC firmware, it's possible to back up the data.
GoodDayToDie said:
Depends on your phone model and firmware version. For Samsung or certain older HTC firmware, it's possible to back up the data.
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Verizon HTC Trophy running 8107 (newest build)....Does that mean no ?
I said firmware, not OS build, but probably.
Are you able to interop-unlock your phone?
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I said firmware, not OS build, but probably.
Are you able to interop-unlock your phone?
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Yes, my phone is interop-unlocked. I am not fully unlocked due to having a CDMA based phone (no one really lets us play) and no one supports a full unlock on my phone
There are two apps you can try: TouchXplorer (on http://touchxperience.com) and HtcRoot Webserver (see my sig). Both can access the filesystem of HTC phones and let you move or back up files (backup is a little tricky with TouchXplorer but it can be done). You can also try using DiagProvXML if you know the path to the data you want to move/copy/whatever (it'll be under \Applications\Data\<GUID_OF_APP>\Data\IsolatedStore)
These apps use a variety of different hacks to access or modify the filesystem (provxml is currently write-only). Without knowing your firmware version, I can't tell you which ones will or will not work. Give it a shot, though...
GoodDayToDie said:
There are two apps you can try: TouchXplorer (on http://touchxperience.com) and HtcRoot Webserver (see my sig). Both can access the filesystem of HTC phones and let you move or back up files (backup is a little tricky with TouchXplorer but it can be done). You can also try using DiagProvXML if you know the path to the data you want to move/copy/whatever (it'll be under \Applications\Data\<GUID_OF_APP>\Data\IsolatedStore)
These apps use a variety of different hacks to access or modify the filesystem (provxml is currently write-only). Without knowing your firmware version, I can't tell you which ones will or will not work. Give it a shot, though...
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Thanks for your help. TouchXplorer stopped working after Mango, it stopped working on Interop unlocked but, still works on Fully unlocked devices, as far as I know. I have it installed, it loads but, does not do anything beyond that, the Dev closed the discussion due to it not working any more.
I looked over your Webserver, I'm not a programmer so it's out of my skilset to make it into a installable file.
and sad to say, with 8107 firmware Connection Setup no longer works (error "Carrier not in Database"), so proXML is out too...
I am running stock Firmware, 2305.13.20110.605
Any other thoughts ?
Um, there's pre-compiled XAPs of the webserver attached to the thread...?
Mind you, if TouchXplorer isn't working for you, then HtcRoot won't either.
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Um, there's pre-compiled XAPs of the webserver attached to the thread...?
Mind you, if TouchXplorer isn't working for you, then HtcRoot won't either.
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I wish there was a way to get TouchXplorer working, but, I didnt notice any pre-compiled ones in the thread, I'll try that.
Any other way ?
Look on the webserver thread, not the HtcRoot thread (there's a precompiled XAP on there too, but it's just a test app; doesn't *do* anything except check compatibility).
I've pretty much outlined all the viable options for you already. If none of them work, then... hope there's a fix released soon, or a better backup option? I don't know, I've never played the game, it sounds awfully Farmville-esque, so maybe waiting that long isn't an option...
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Look on the webserver thread, not the HtcRoot thread (there's a precompiled XAP on there too, but it's just a test app; doesn't *do* anything except check compatibility).
I've pretty much outlined all the viable options for you already. If none of them work, then... hope there's a fix released soon, or a better backup option? I don't know, I've never played the game, it sounds awfully Farmville-esque, so maybe waiting that long isn't an option...
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I tried your webserver.... but, browsing the device just gives me a "System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x8007001F): A device attached to the system is not functioning. "
I saw a post by you saying it's not compatable (someone else had the same error)..
That is pretty cool tho (a web server on my phone, very cool)... I wish I could get my HTC Trophy fully unlocked so I can play with these cool tools....
The game was fun, kind of like you said, Farmville-esque, but, instead of spending real cash, you can just time go by, it was fun and I would play it one or 2 times a day to get my ants working and build up acorns (money in the game). After playing it 2 weeks, every day, 2-3 times a day, it died before I could get all the achivements. I just wanted to finsih the game..
I want to thank you for trying to help, I know there is only so much that is possable with my phone now but, thanks for trying
Even I have d same problem on my HTC radar and d black screen blocks d vision but d icons R visible & if I drop some food then the house did is visible otherwise only small areas are visible what to do
This happened to my Titan once, a reboot fixed it.
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This happened to my Titan once, a reboot fixed it.
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I have rebooted, Pulled the battery and everything else I could think of, It still does not work.
@DavidinCT: Off-topic, but there's a version of the WebServer (which my project was actually built on) that does not use HtcRoot or even interop-unlock. Aside from its own data folder though, the only place it can access is read-only for \Windows.
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@DavidinCT: Off-topic, but there's a version of the WebServer (which my project was actually built on) that does not use HtcRoot or even interop-unlock. Aside from its own data folder though, the only place it can access is read-only for \Windows.
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Interesting, I'll have to check it for the coolness factor. It does not help on my quest tho
On the subject of Bug Village, I am not the only one with this issue, if you look over the reviews in the marketplace, there is ton more with the same issue. I guess I can hold tight for an update, I guess...
Yeah, if it's a common issue, there are good odds the developer will fix it. If they don't, they won't get any more money from it...
Greetings. I just picked up a used MT4GS because I had to have a hwkbd and want to get it into top fighting condition. I've read through the posts on Bulletproof and MikTouch ROMs and am trying to understand what the real differences are. I'd appreciate any comments on features that one has that the other doesn't.
So far i have been able to determine:
In MikTouch, the screen capture is broken
This is my first Android phone, so i'm lacking context to understand a lot of the descriptions of changes.
Thanks
This phone is an oldie but a goodie, and welcome to the board.
I just came off of miktouch, which is a clean sense experience, but I was getting reboots on this ROM (don't know why, could have been a problem on my end). My understanding is the miktouch is slightly newer than bulletproof, and is based on a newer HTC firmware (this is for the version 0.7 miktouch, which is the most recent and the one you want to use).
If you need sense, then I think this is a good rom, but probably either one is good. They are both widely reported as stable, so I am not sure if my own experience regarding reboots is just a rare exception.
If you are not committed to the sense framework, I highly recommend scverhagen's CM9.1, which is very solid in my experience. I have used v12 for at least a month, and v13 came out yesterday, and is so far (knock wood) rock solid.
There are quite a few CM10.X variations available, and I've tried several. In my experience (and on my device) they are not as completely rock solid as the CM9.1, which is the only reason I am not using one as a DD. That said, they are quite mature, and are in wide use by many who want to be on the later CM versions.
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If you are not committed to the sense framework, I highly recommend scverhagen's CM9.1, which is very solid in my experience. I have used v12 for at least a month, and v13 came out yesterday, and is so far (knock wood) rock solid.
There are quite a few CM10.X variations available, and I've tried several. In my experience (and on my device) they are not as completely rock solid as the CM9.1, which is the only reason I am not using one as a DD. That said, they are quite mature, and are in wide use by many who want to be on the later CM versions.
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Thanks for your comments. Having almost no experience with Android, i don't really know if i object to the Sense overlay or not. I have read that losing Sense loses a lot of the capabilities of the camera, and the camera is the other reason i got this phone (with the keyboard).
Anyway, i just finished unlocking the phone now. Did you get S-Off on yours?
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Thanks for your comments. Having almost no experience with Android, i don't really know if i object to the Sense overlay or not. I have read that losing Sense loses a lot of the capabilities of the camera, and the camera is the other reason i got this phone (with the keyboard).
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I believe that was once true, but I think most of the camera issues have since been solved. I don't use the high end functions of the camera much. I think also there were some problems with 1080p video, which have also since been solved.
The CM roms are based off of the google android base code, and so they are able to work with certain apps that may not work with the version on which both bulletproof and miktouch are based, which is version gingerbread, android 2.3. CM 9.1 is based on android 4.0 (icecream sandwich). and CM 10.X is based on android 4.1-4.3. Chrome browser requires min android 4.0, and is probably the best browser.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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Anyway, i just finished unlocking the phone now. Did you get S-Off on yours?
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Yes, I did S-off mine. There is a post that describes the procedure using a wire to short between a spare uSD card and a very small hole at a precise time. The S-off is somewhat handy as it eliminates one step in flashing ROMs, namely, extracting a file from the ROM and separately flashing that single file (using fastboot) after flashing the ROM itself the 'normal' way, but is not necessary, and I would not suggest it as it is kind of tricky (but if you feel lucky...). I think it took me around 20 tries to finally get it right.
Hope this helps, and I would suggest starting with CM 9.1, as it will give you a more 'pure' android experience. Although some do like the Sense overlay, I don't care for it, and it is a lot less customizable.
Yes, the original sense camera produced excellent photos and videos, especially in low light, which I've never matched with others since. One person (can't remember who) who used later ROMs on a daily basis said he used to swap back to sense whenever he wanted to use the camera at a particular event. So I guess that's another option for you. For me, I've stuck mainly with CM9.1 for daily use (camera wasn't central to my 'buy' decision), and dabbled with other ROMs evenings and weekends.
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Yes, the original sense camera produced excellent photos and videos, especially in low light, which I've never matched with others since. One person (can't remember who) who used later ROMs on a daily basis said he used to swap back to sense whenever he wanted to use the camera at a particular event. So I guess that's another option for you. For me, I've stuck mainly with CM9.1 for daily use (camera wasn't central to my 'buy' decision), and dabbled with other ROMs evenings and weekends.
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Thank you. I actually did a simple comparison (talk.maemo .org /showpost.php?p=1378114&postcount=27) between the camera and my previous phone's camera to see which handled low light better, and my results agree with your experience. This is a pretty high priority for me.
I think your comments confirm for me that i do want to stick with GB + Sense for now. That brings me back to the OP though. From reading through the threads for the respective ROMs i think i have another difference:
* Bulletproof has a more colorful customized theme/paradigm.
* Bulletproof has some geeky utilities like bash shell and nano editor
Still wondering about substantive differences. I'll probably flash Bulletproof unless i hear of any disadvantages of it relative to Miktouch.
Edit: meh can't post links blah blah.
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... For an updated version, try the Miktouch ROM. It is based on the last HTC stock ROM, 1.63.531.2 and thus has a bit better performance in several key areas (GPS, Bluetooth, WiFi) and has more updated tweaks, as well. Bulletproof is based on the original stock ROM.
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As a long time Bulletproof user and probably the biggest Bulletproof cheerleader from day one, I will agree that the MikTouch ROM is a smoother experience.
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Hmm i thought that the fixes had gotten incorporated in Bulletproof in the later revision (1.1). :/
From what I read on another forum, Bloater is no longer being developed or supported.
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This may be a problem because i need e.g. Exchange Mail and i read that it's been removed in the custom ROMs.
Well i've used clockworkmod recovery to make a nandroid of the stock system and have flashed Bulletproof 1.1 and the UV5 undervolting kernel. I'll see if it can be made to do what i want/need. Kudos to WeekendsR2Short for archiving the files so they are still available and to the hackers who put the ROM together.
I'm still looking for comments on current, real differences between the two ROMs, particularly from those in the know about whether there are meaningful differences in performance due to the origin of each. I would expect the fixes that went into the later stock ROMs also could be incorporated into Bulletproof, regardless of whether it was based on that ROM, but were they? I see guides from Blue6 on tweaks for network performance and GPS performance, so it seems he was aware of the issues.
Edit: I don't have working wifi so i'm guessing a custom kernel is a no go without S-off. That's what i thought but then i couldn't understand how people can run ICS without S-off. Obviously my assumptions are wrong somewhere... I'll reflash the boot image from Bulletproof 1.1.
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Well i've used clockworkmod recovery to make a nandroid of the stock system and have flashed Bulletproof 1.1 and the UV5 undervolting kernel. I'll see if it can be made to do what i want/need. Kudos to WeekendsR2Short for archiving the files so they are still available and to the hackers who put the ROM together.
I'm still looking for comments on current, real differences between the two ROMs, particularly from those in the know about whether there are meaningful differences in performance due to the origin of each. I would expect the fixes that went into the later stock ROMs also could be incorporated into Bulletproof, regardless of whether it was based on that ROM, but were they? I see guides from Blue6 on tweaks for network performance and GPS performance, so it seems he was aware of the issues.
Edit: I don't have working wifi so i'm guessing a custom kernel is a no go without S-off. That's what i thought but then i couldn't understand how people can run ICS without S-off. Obviously my assumptions are wrong somewhere... I'll reflash the boot image from Bulletproof 1.1.
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Bulletproof 1.1 is still based on the original stock ROM (1.28), whereas Miktouch is based on the 1.63 release. In the 1.63 release, HTC made some major improvements in GPS, Bluetooth, and overall smoothness of the ROM as well as closed some security issues. Miktouch retains all the base stuff, including the Genius subsystem. By default, however, the Genius button has been remapped to do search, but there is a small patch that can be applied to revert the mapping back to the Genius function.
I've tried Bulletproof and though it is very stable, I still prefer Miktouch. It just seems more "fluid", especially with the patches like Liquidsmooth Rosie, and No-scrolling Cache. I also like the CM9.1 version from sverhagen, now on r13 release. It is very stable and works very well.
But, as others have stated, if the camera is very important, only the stock-based ROMs like Miktouch are going to give you 100% of what this phone can do. That's because HTC put a lot of the control of the image processor directly into the Sense framework, which of course is lacking in other ROMs. Other ROMs can access basic functions and do processing using the CPU, but cannot access some of the higher functions of the dedicated image processor. The CM9.1 camera is good, but if you look at photos side-by-side with those taken with Miktouch, for instance, you can see a difference in depth of field, exposure, lighting, compression. It is subtle, but visible. Most people probably would not care or even notice, so it is a personal choice.
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Bulletproof 1.1 is still based on the original stock ROM (1.28), whereas Miktouch is based on the 1.63 release. In the 1.63 release, HTC made some major improvements in GPS, Bluetooth, and overall smoothness of the ROM as well as closed some security issues. Miktouch retains all the base stuff, including the Genius subsystem. By default, however, the Genius button has been remapped to do search, but there is a small patch that can be applied to revert the mapping back to the Genius function.
I've tried Bulletproof and though it is very stable, I still prefer Miktouch. It just seems more "fluid", especially with the patches like Liquidsmooth Rosie, and No-scrolling Cache. I also like the CM9.1 version from sverhagen, now on r13 release. It is very stable and works very well.
But, as others have stated, if the camera is very important, only the stock-based ROMs like Miktouch are going to give you 100% of what this phone can do. That's because HTC put a lot of the control of the image processor directly into the Sense framework, which of course is lacking in other ROMs. Other ROMs can access basic functions and do processing using the CPU, but cannot access some of the higher functions of the dedicated image processor. The CM9.1 camera is good, but if you look at photos side-by-side with those taken with Miktouch, for instance, you can see a difference in depth of field, exposure, lighting, compression. It is subtle, but visible. Most people probably would not care or even notice, so it is a personal choice.
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Best description of the differences between Miktouch and Bulletproof I've read on the XDA forums! :good:
Thanks
Fuzi0719 said:
Bulletproof 1.1 is still based on the original stock ROM (1.28), whereas Miktouch is based on the 1.63 release. In the 1.63 release, HTC made some major improvements in GPS, Bluetooth, and overall smoothness of the ROM as well as closed some security issues. Miktouch retains all the base stuff, including the Genius subsystem. By default, however, the Genius button has been remapped to do search, but there is a small patch that can be applied to revert the mapping back to the Genius function.
I've tried Bulletproof and though it is very stable, I still prefer Miktouch. It just seems more "fluid", especially with the patches like Liquidsmooth Rosie, and No-scrolling Cache. I also like the CM9.1 version from sverhagen, now on r13 release. It is very stable and works very well.
But, as others have stated, if the camera is very important, only the stock-based ROMs like Miktouch are going to give you 100% of what this phone can do. That's because HTC put a lot of the control of the image processor directly into the Sense framework, which of course is lacking in other ROMs. Other ROMs can access basic functions and do processing using the CPU, but cannot access some of the higher functions of the dedicated image processor. The CM9.1 camera is good, but if you look at photos side-by-side with those taken with Miktouch, for instance, you can see a difference in depth of field, exposure, lighting, compression. It is subtle, but visible. Most people probably would not care or even notice, so it is a personal choice.
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Thanks, that's a very useful summary.
OT:
I flashed the MikTouch 0.7 ROM and most of the patches that you uploaded in its thread. What difference do you see with the MikTouch-No-Scrolling-Cache patch? From my understanding of scrolling caches, disabling them would make it less smooth rather than more.
Answering my own question (OP):
Now that i have flashed both ROMs i can mostly answer my own question about the differences. As i had guessed from my reading, Bulletproof is a more complete or thorough mod. It provides some nice options for the quick settings and the status icons that sit at the top right. It has cut out most of the extra apps, and hidden the Kid's Zone icon. It has a custom theme and keeps the other themes.
A brief play with some network access suggests that MikTouch may be smoother more optimized due to its more updated origins. On the other hand, it feels less cohesive and polished.
It might be summed up by saying that, in terms of visible modifications, Bulletproof goes overboard, while MikTouch isn't quite enough.
So if Bulletproof were based on the latest stock ROM and wasn't missing a couple "bloatware" features that i want to keep, i would reflash it now. Because it's not, i'll give MikTouch a go for a while.
I'm trying to establish, as much as possible, the functionality my Maemo device had. I'm going to post my progress here for any to whom it might be useful.
notes
I've copied my Conboy notes to Tomdroid, but the ancient stable version doesn't support editing and the beta version (0.7.2) corrupts notes with bulleted lists. I really liked Conboy, so i hope the devs can get things sorted. Development seems to be really slow, which surprises me considering the popularity of Tomboy.
terminal
I encountered the hilarious problem with Terminal Emulator that others have: the forward slash key (of all things) only produces tildes, making the hwkb completely useless for terminal work. Someone suggested a Connectbot connection to local, and that versatile little app seems like a little slice of home coming from a linux environment. You can put an icon on your desktop that will open you right to that connection, too.
I'm still trying to figure out the best way to modify my keyboard mapping. I'd like to make the www. a Tab and repurpose the android keys and extra (right) shift, perhaps as arrows and a CTRL. The spacebar is also obnoxiously out of reach so i might move it to the Back key. Fortunately, Connectbot has some sensible workarounds that make these changes less urgent.
I have the latest ES File Explorer but the locked down nature of Android seems to make any kind of file system activities hopelessly complicated compared with a more conventional linux system. I was trying to install this nano editor binary but am not sure if remounting root R/W and unzipping it to / is going to cause issues.
spreadsheet
I've been using gnumeric on my N900. TBD
e-reader
FB Reader and PDF reader on the N900. TBD
offline maps
Used Modrana and Navit on N900. Both have strengths and weaknesses. TBD
misc.
It's nice that Flashlight is pre-loaded but i can't see any way to leave it on while i do something else on the phone. I think the custom setting in the quick settings of Bulletproof could do that. :/ It is a nice bright flash we have here.
The stock camera app combines the functionality of three separate apps on N900: BlessN900, Panorama, and the stock camera app, and in a much snappier interface, albeit with fewer options. I'm excited about that. I need to find an app that will simulate a scan from a photo (perspective correction), though.
Offline dictionary, wikipedia, and a gps recorder are also needed. TBD
Of course, porting a few classic games and apps (e.g. Doom, Starcon2, Gweled, MAME) with a few hours work each isn't going to happen in Android like it did with Maemo and its SDL framework. The ability to achieve feature parity ends with the software selection...
Will edit when i have made more progress.
ETA: I have S-OFF now. I thought i could leave it alone until i tired of GB and/or stock kernel, but i should have known better. I used my Linux Mint14 (64 bit) box, a random USB cable (original HTC one is presumably with the original owner), and a twist-tie, and to be safe i flashed back my nandroid of stock first. After all the wind up about original this, 32 bit os, and precise that, i got it on the first try and it didn't wipe my SD card.
First thing i did is flash a custom splash screen. I made one and it was realizing it wouldn't work without S-OFF that pushed me over the edge.
Flandry said:
I'm trying to establish, as much as possible, the functionality my Maemo device had. I'm going to post my progress here for any to whom it might be useful.
notes
I've copied my Conboy notes to Tomdroid, but the ancient stable version doesn't support editing and the beta version (0.7.2) corrupts notes with bulleted lists. I really liked Conboy, so i hope the devs can get things sorted. Development seems to be really slow, which surprises me considering the popularity of Tomboy.
terminal
I encountered the hilarious problem with Terminal Emulator that others have: the forward slash key (of all things) only produces tildes, making the hwkb completely useless for terminal work. Someone suggested a Connectbot connection to local, and that versatile little app seems like a little slice of home coming from a linux environment. You can put an icon on your desktop that will open you right to that connection, too.
I'm still trying to figure out the best way to modify my keyboard mapping. I'd like to make the www. a Tab and repurpose the android keys and extra (right) shift, perhaps as arrows and a CTRL. The spacebar is also obnoxiously out of reach so i might move it to the Back key. Fortunately, Connectbot has some sensible workarounds that make these changes less urgent.
I have the latest ES File Explorer but the locked down nature of Android seems to make any kind of file system activities hopelessly complicated compared with a more conventional linux system. I was trying to install this nano editor binary but am not sure if remounting root R/W and unzipping it to / is going to cause issues.
spreadsheet
I've been using gnumeric on my N900. TBD
e-reader
FB Reader and PDF reader on the N900. TBD
offline maps
Used Modrana and Navit on N900. Both have strengths and weaknesses. TBD
misc.
It's nice that Flashlight is pre-loaded but i can't see any way to leave it on while i do something else on the phone. I think the custom setting in the quick settings of Bulletproof could do that. :/ It is a nice bright flash we have here.
The stock camera app combines the functionality of three separate apps on N900: BlessN900, Panorama, and the stock camera app, and in a much snappier interface, albeit with fewer options. I'm excited about that. I need to find an app that will simulate a scan from a photo (perspective correction), though.
Offline dictionary, wikipedia, and a gps recorder are also needed. TBD
Of course, porting a few classic games and apps (e.g. Doom, Starcon2, Gweled, MAME) with a few hours work each isn't going to happen in Android like it did with Maemo and its SDL framework. The ability to achieve feature parity ends with the software selection...
Will edit when i have made more progress.
ETA: I have S-OFF now. I thought i could leave it alone until i tired of GB and/or stock kernel, but i should have known better. I used my Linux Mint14 (64 bit) box, a random USB cable (original HTC one is presumably with the original owner), and a twist-tie, and to be safe i flashed back my nandroid of stock first. After all the wind up about original this, 32 bit os, and precise that, i got it on the first try and it didn't wipe my SD card.
First thing i did is flash a custom splash screen. I made one and it was realizing it wouldn't work without S-OFF that pushed me over the edge.
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Not sure what your needs are as for a notes app, but I use the one HTC included in the ROM simply called Notes. It can import/export but I haven't used that feature or know the format. Also, Adobe PDF reader comes with the ROM, too. These are both in Miktouch. I have also run into that keyboard issue with Terminal, someone posted a revised Terminal app that fixed that issue but now I don't know where it is located. Perhaps look around on the Play Store. As to spreadsheets and other office-type apps, QuickOffice is now owned by Google and was made free in the Play Store. It can read/write most MS Office documents. And Google Maps now has the feature of storing offline maps for when you don't have network access.
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Not sure what your needs are as for a notes app, but I use the one HTC included in the ROM simply called Notes. It can import/export but I haven't used that feature or know the format. Also, Adobe PDF reader comes with the ROM, too. These are both in Miktouch. I have also run into that keyboard issue with Terminal, someone posted a revised Terminal app that fixed that issue but now I don't know where it is located. Perhaps look around on the Play Store. As to spreadsheets and other office-type apps, QuickOffice is now owned by Google and was made free in the Play Store. It can read/write most MS Office documents. And Google Maps now has the feature of storing offline maps for when you don't have network access.
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Yeah i had just discovered QuickOffice was free after finding the usual subjects (Gnu apps, OO, etc) aren't available and presumably decent since Google decided to buy it. I vaguely remember there being a QuickOffice on my Handera(?) a decade ago. Wonder if it's the same thing.
The attention to detail in the ConnectBot app makes it actually possible to hack system files, and its support for copy and paste, combined with that nano binary i got installed, lets me copy-paste text into files. The lack of universal clipboard and general lack of time-honored keyboard shortcuts is driving me up the wall. I sure took that for granted on maemo. Android just isn't designed with a hardware keyboard in mind. :/
Nano is super flaky with poor refresh, and without keyboard arrows it's a bit hard to use. It would be impossible without ConnectBot's workaround for lack of CTRL, though. Can anyone recommend a good simple GUI text editor for editing config files etc.? One that supports copy/paste, unlike that half-assed ES File Explorer note editor atrocity.
Anyway, I used the above setup to make the changes to the gps.conf file recommended here.
I'm also finding the long-press on Home is a passable imitation of the camera-button or CTRL-BACKSPACE shortcut to task switcher on the N900 too.
I'm going to give the Sneaky Pete kernel a try now.
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Yeah i had just discovered QuickOffice was free after finding the usual subjects (Gnu apps, OO, etc) aren't available and presumably decent since Google decided to buy it. I vaguely remember there being a QuickOffice on my Handera(?) a decade ago. Wonder if it's the same thing.
The attention to detail in the ConnectBot app makes it actually possible to hack system files, and its support for copy and paste, combined with that nano binary i got installed, lets me copy-paste text into files. The lack of universal clipboard and general lack of time-honored keyboard shortcuts is driving me up the wall. I sure took that for granted on maemo. Android just isn't designed with a hardware keyboard in mind. :/
Nano is super flaky with poor refresh, and without keyboard arrows it's a bit hard to use. It would be impossible without ConnectBot's workaround for lack of CTRL, though. Can anyone recommend a good simple GUI text editor for editing config files etc.? One that supports copy/paste, unlike that half-assed ES File Explorer note editor atrocity.
Anyway, I used the above setup to make the changes to the gps.conf file recommended here.
I'm also finding the long-press on Home is a passable imitation of the camera-button or CTRL-BACKSPACE shortcut to task switcher on the N900 too.
I'm going to give the Sneaky Pete kernel a try now.
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For hacking system files, an easy app to use is Kernel Tuner. Even though I'm using the stock kernel on Miktouch, I use Kernel Tuner to set my min CPU and governor (I have 1134 max/192 min and conservative governor on both cores) and I set the I/O scheduler to noop with a 2048kb cache. The app has the built in ability to make edits to system files and is geared for Sense ROMs.
Also, you might want to download/install the newer Swype keyboard from Play Store. It is newer/better than the Swype that is built in to the HTC ROM. The built in Swype can be disabled (I use MyBackup Pro to freeze certain things that are built in, like the Group messaging and Tmobile ID stuff that I never use).
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The attention to detail in the ConnectBot app makes it actually possible to hack system files, and its support for copy and paste, combined with that nano binary i got installed, lets me copy-paste text into files. The lack of universal clipboard and general lack of time-honored keyboard shortcuts is driving me up the wall. I sure took that for granted on maemo. Android just isn't designed with a hardware keyboard in mind. :/
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Have you found some of Blue6ix' posts yet? He listed ways to remap the keys to whatever you wanted, and I seem to recall keyboard shortcuts was one of the things lamented when he moved to a phone without a hardware keyboard. (though I don't use shortcuts myself so can't say more)
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Have you found some of Blue6ix' posts yet? He listed ways to remap the keys to whatever you wanted, and I seem to recall keyboard shortcuts was one of the things lamented when he moved to a phone without a hardware keyboard. (though I don't use shortcuts myself so can't say more)
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Yeah that's what i linked to a few posts back when i mentioned it. I've spent a while playing around with it now that i have a functioning nano editor and bash. I found, to my disappointment, that CTRL can't be used as a modifier until Android 3. At least that's what i gathered. The amount of conflicting information on every thing i search for is mind-boggling, both due to vendor and device differences and android API differences, i assume. Anyway, no CTRL isn't too big of a deal since the standard CTRL-+ shortcuts aren't really standard on it, and VX Connectbot makes it easy to generate CTRL+? inputs. I switched to VX, an improved Connectbot fork, when i realized i had no way to generate angle brackets or pipe characters. VX Connectbot enables the SYM selector pop-up and and lets you map most buttons. It's really quite nice.
The more amusing/aggravating thing i discovered is that if you map a key to TAB, it actually is "symlinked" to DPAD_DOWN (keycode 20). That means it behaves vaguely TAB-like in the browser, but not in text editors. I found this out using the debug show keycode option in VX Connectbot. So the obvious system remap for the asinine www./.com key is pointless, and there doesn't seem to be any way to get a real tab input using just a remap. I'm not sure how much further up the pipeline you can go with a closed ROM -- really have no idea -- but again at least there's a way to get TAB in a shell with VX. I did, in desperation, try just entering the keycode for TAB (61) in the key layout file, instead of the enum name. Hilarity and a dead keyboard ensued... yay for cwm recovery. :silly:
So now most of my grand plans for modding the keyboard layout are sort of in tatters. I think I will
map the right shift, genius, sym, and alt keys to cursor keys (just too hard to consistently press the dpad left or right without getting an up or down in there somewhere). That's similar to the layout i'm used to on my N900.
I'd move sym to Home and make Back another spacebar. The spacebar has to be pushed close to its middle on this keyboard, and it's too far away to make sense.
probably remap www. to SHIFT_RIGHT so that it can be tab in Connectbot (built in option)
that leaves just the menu key as redundant (well, and two shifts and space bars after the changes). TBD
Edit: After reading through this, it is clear that if i went with an ICS ROM i could remap as intended. Prior to Froyo the key map files were much less versatile. I think i could get TAB working if i modded the binary keymap file, but it's probably not worth it.
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Edit: After reading through this, it is clear that if i went with an ICS ROM i could remap as intended. Prior to Froyo the key map files were much less versatile. I think i could get TAB working if i modded the binary keymap file, but it's probably not worth it.
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The best ICS w/Sense ROM for this phone, in my opinion, was one from sun_dream. It was a direct port from the Sensation, using that phone's 3.3.2 ROM release as the base. There was an 3.3.3 release port but I found it to be much less usable/stable. The best ICS ROM, though, is scverhagen's CM9.1r13. It isn't Sense based, but it is very stable, excellent battery, and everything works as it should (for a CM ROM).
Fuzi0719 said:
The best ICS w/Sense ROM for this phone, in my opinion, was one from sun_dream. It was a direct port from the Sensation, using that phone's 3.3.2 ROM release as the base. There was an 3.3.3 release port but I found it to be much less usable/stable. The best ICS ROM, though, is scverhagen's CM9.1r13. It isn't Sense based, but it is very stable, excellent battery, and everything works as it should (for a CM ROM).
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Without having even used an Android phone before, i'm not partial to Sense, but i decided after the previous discussion that i'm going to stick with GB for now for the extra camera quality. However, after this tweaking i think i will make a final nandroid and then flash scverhagen's CM9.1r13 to see if the android really is greener on the other side.
Is it worth going all the way to JB, or are those much less functional?
I've set the Miktouch keyboard layout up with relatively minor changes for now:
www. = SYM
Home key = SPACE
SYM = Left Up (caught again by the limited keymapping vocabulary of GB. If you set to DPAD_LEFT, it registers as DPAD_DOWN when the device is in landscape mode...
ALT (right) = Right Down " " "
Genius key = ALT (right)
I found this post and this post to be useful references when changing the layout.
Flandry said:
Without having even used an Android phone before, i'm not partial to Sense, but i decided after the previous discussion that i'm going to stick with GB for now for the extra camera quality. However, after this tweaking i think i will make a final nandroid and then flash scverhagen's CM9.1r13 to see if the android really is greener on the other side.
Is it worth going all the way to JB, or are those much less functional?
I've set the Miktouch keyboard layout up with relatively minor changes for now:
www. = SYM
Home key = SPACE
SYM = Left Up (caught again by the limited keymapping vocabulary of GB. If you set to DPAD_LEFT, it registers as DPAD_DOWN when the device is in landscape mode...
ALT (right) = Right Down " " "
Genius key = ALT (right)
I found this post and this post to be useful references when changing the layout.
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I can only speak for my own tastes and experiences when discussing a ROM. I personally run Miktouch on my MT4GS. I've tried nearly every ROM available, and given them a good try out. For Sense, I'm gonna run Miktouch, just nothing else comes close to the stability. If I were using a non-sense ROM, I would use scverhagen's CM9.1r13, which is as close to the stability of Miktouch as I've found in a non-stock ROM. I've tried the CM10, 10.1, and 10.2 ROMs but for me the differences just aren't worth the little quirks and issues. Now, many people don't mind those things, or may not even face those same quirks as they might use their phone differently than me. On my Nook Tablet, I use the CM10.1.3 Stable release, as it is so rock-solid. But on this phone, I want 100% (or as close to 100% as is possible) uptime without having to make excuses for why that call got dropped or that text didn't send or my Bluetooth disconnected, etc.