Hi guys, I am new to android and rooting the androids. I'm using a Motorola Milestone 2 (A953) and was tempted by the features provided by rooting. So far I've rooted my phone with z4root.
My question is, how do I go about backing up the phone? ie which software/apps
If I am only using the superuser/root access for extended apps, not custom ROMs and things, is it still necessary to back up the phone?
If I have the need to return the phone to its stock state (unrooted), how would I go about doing that.
And lastly, what should a beginner like me be aware of/careful of?
Thanks in advance.
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Hello everyone,
Just wanted to give my 2 cents worth....
I was wondering if it would at all be possible to fix the problem people were having with not being able to revert back to an earlier(or stock) version of their phone once rooted and up and running by doing the following:
(This is by no means technical but a theoretical suggestion [which I have not tried due to the fact that I do not own 2 phones] ):
If someone had access to two phones, say an HTC Eris (the phone I have)
One was rooted, running 2.1 and the other one was stock/unrooted.
Take both phones and hook both of them up to a computer via USB.
Since one phone is rooted, could you theoretically make a backup img using the secondary phone (stock one) as the source for it using the rooted phone creating a stock/unrooted img.
Then boot the rooted phone using the stock image unrooting it and restoring it to a "official" phone?
I apologize in advance for my lack of technical knowledge in the field but was hoping maybe this idea would help someone else and give them the (insert your lightbulb turning on sensation here) and go "Hey what if I did this and yada yada yada..."
If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
unbreakab1e said:
If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
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1) You won't get it from Verizon, but when gingerbread does get released all the devs will make a ROM and you'll have it in no time but only if you use a custom rom.
2) There is a way to unroot back to stock but there is nothing wrong with making a backup.
3) I like my root access. More options to get more out of your phone (over clocking, themes, custom ROMs, kernels, etc)
4) Your warrenty is void (unless you can unroot it and take it back to stock. They will never know) and you can mess up your phone if you don't read and double check instructions before doing anything
Hope I helped
unbreakab1e said:
If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
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1. Ability to install custom ROMs lets you have Gingerbread before Moto and VZW send it out OTA.
2. Probably a good idea; however I didn't on my Incredible, as there are a lot of ways to return to stock without doing that for the Inc. and I assume for the X too.
3. YES. Wifi tether without paying VZW $20 a month, custom ROMs, etc...
4. Technically, it voids your warranty. But, like you said, return it to stock and s-off and they'll never be able to tell
Also, there's a small chance to brick your phone; if you follow all instructions exactly, that's not an issue. And remember: ALWAYS back up your ROM before flashing a new one, be it through ROM Manager or through nandroid. And, if a kernel flash goes wrong and you get stuck at the 1st startup screen, relfash your ROM through ClockworkMod Recovery. From the .zip, not the backup. Titanium backup is good for apps backup, and MyBackup is dead simple for contacts/bookmarks/etc.
Hope this helps, and enjoy your Droid X!
Rooting is nothing, its what you do with it. If you are not interested in overclocking or a custom rom then dont do it, otherwise you must do it.
IF i had a droidX i would be soooo happy
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
unbreakab1e said:
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
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Themes: The theme thread should say what ROMs it works with. If the one you're using isn't on that list and you're feeling adventurous, make a nandroid backup through your recovery and try flashing it! Themes don't work on the stock ROM, however.
SuperOneClickRoot I think it is, and Z4 both root your phone, but SuperOneClick runs from your PC, and Z4 from the phone (I think, HTC's have unrevoked)
Either *should* be fine.
OTA updates: When I rooted my Incredible, I was concerned about this too. Then I installed a custom ROM... don't worry about OTA.
Oh, and CyanogenMod. It's a ROM based on the official Google code's open source with a LOT of extra settings. Haven't used it myself, but I've heard great things about it.
I just recently decided to purchase my first android phone. I'm completely new to rooting and I was wondering if someone could help me out.
A thread that I was reading mentioned downgrading the system image from Gingerbread 2.3.3 to 2.2.x to be able to root
I was wondering, does that mean that once a permanent root has been established that, 2.2.x Android will be running or is it only temporary for attaining the root and the device will be running 2.3.3 once it has been successfully rooted?
Thank you
please tell us what phone you have. it will make it easier to explain things
Once you root you have the option of loading custom ROM's. Depending on your phone these custom ROM's can be 2.2.1, 2.3.3, 2.3.4 and 2.3.5. So you will be running gingerbread if you please..just not stock.
I'm thinking about getting an HTC Panache and I was looking at this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096014&page=10
So if I manage to root the phone, would sense UI be completely removed and replaced with only the basic android rom such as that on the Nexus series?
You can load a ROM without Sense, or one with Sense...its all about your preference. The panache is an amazing phone and you would not be disappointed. If you are a fan of the Nexus style ROM, Faux123 makes one for the panache (which is the MyTouch 4G in the us) that is absolutely amazing. And if you do like sense, can't go wrong with virtuous unity. Either way...there are A TON of ROM's available for that phone.
Hi there,
I wouldn't have thought so about going to an older version of OS, rooting is normally done via clockwork recovery & boot loaders, so unless the boot loader they use does not work with 2.3 then maybe but unlikely, clockwork recovery this wiki does not mention installing an older OS, I doubt you will be able to unless the phone is rooted.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TM...l_Update_Guide#Rooting_the_TMobile_myTouch_4G
Then once the phone is rooted you just install what ever ROM you want to install from the boot loader and install ROM from SD card.
Thank you so much for all the information! I've been trying to decide between the Nexus S and the HTC Panache for the last little while now and that cleared up a lot of questions I had. I really appreciate it, thank you!
I didn't want to start a new therad for this so here's my question:
I don't get what the SUPER CID is good for. Google tells me it allows you to flash any ROM onto it, even if the phone is branded. huh? I thought that's what S-off+root allows you to do?
I have a branded Sensation with s-off and root on stock rom. Should I do the SUPER CID thing and what is good for?
thank you
It is not really necessary. It is considered complete unlocking, but everything you want to do as far as custom ROM's you can accomplish in the state you are in now.
Hi, i got my first android and i´m VERY happy with it.
Although, i still want to make two things to make it better. Eliminate bloatware and update to gingerbread.
My confusion is that, to eliminate bloat i know i must ROOT, but should i root BEFORE updating or AFTER updating?
I have another doubt, will rooting affect functions of my phone like serving as a AP (access point) or any other???
Note: i do have the SGH-T959V (T-mobile´s) BUT it is unlocked and as i live abroad i´m using it with another telco. (Will rooting or updatind affect my conectivity to my other telco?)
THANKS in advance
Xavier
You need to first root in order to install a custom recovery, then the root should persist across different ROMs you flash.
I only encountered one ROM where I lost root after flashing, but I think that is rare.
Can ROOT be undone???
After the device has been rooted, if somethings comes out wrong, can i UNROOT it? and leave the phone as brand new???
Thanks
Yes, but I don't know how for the SGS4G.
For my Huawei U8100 it was as simple as reflashing the stock ROM, but for the SGS4G I don't think it is that easy. The closest thing to a stock ROM I found was a rooted stock ROM.
flash a stock rom with odin and use superoneclick root to unroot the phone. simple at that.
Hello All,
I just want to know if there is a way at all to take complete backup of my android phone(HTC Desire V,ICS 4.0.3) without rooting. So far i don't know there is anything that can do my thing without rooting it. Now if i root and take a complete back up of my device, and then if i flash the stock ROM that is provided by HTC ,will then the phone will be restored to its locked state(unrooted) like now it is(I just want to tweak android and also don't want to void my warranty..).
Thanks in advance...
For 4.x devices there is a solution called "adb backup". This makes use of adb so you have to have the Android Software Development Kit (SDK) installed on your computer.
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Ani90 said:
Hello All,
I just want to know if there is a way at all to take complete backup of my android phone(HTC Desire V,ICS 4.0.3) without rooting. So far i don't know there is anything that can do my thing without rooting it. Now if i root and take a complete back up of my device, and then if i flash the stock ROM that is provided by HTC ,will then the phone will be restored to its locked state(unrooted) like now it is(I just want to tweak android and also don't want to void my warranty..).
Thanks in advance...
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please look around for threads covering how to unroot after rooting your device.
this is especially useful if you want to return back to factory for repair etc.
Use ext4 CWM
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Does ADB back up contains stock Kernel ?
Thank You rex28818 and tunjicool for looking into my concern. Yes, I have backed up my device using adb back up and backed up everything.
I want to know, does that back up also contain my source kernel too ?
Because i want my device's source kernel and it is important for me. Actually after taking back up using adb, i flashed HTC desire v official rooted zip file, then my blutooth and wifi was not working. then i look around on the internet and got the info that it could happen if kernel is not matched. Then I flashed one MIUI zip and its defined kernel, now my phone is working perfectly. But what if i want to go back, i will need my stock kernel too. can you please suggest where can i find it and something more...
Thanks in advance.
Ani90