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[Q] Any quadrant scores?

Title. Did or can anyone run quadrant scores and post it here?
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Why ppl keep asking for a benchmark from an application that is worthless is beyond me. Just an FYI to everyone who looks at quadrant, it runs on one thread, aka it can only really test 1/2 of the phone, second when running quadrant on any tegra 2 device quadrant wont even max out a SINGLE core % wise. AKA its scores mean nothing...

I know. I was just wondering. I mean they mean something, at that something is something I don't know.
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jug6ernaut said:
Why ppl keep asking for a benchmark from an application that is worthless is beyond me. Just an FYI to everyone who looks at quadrant, it runs on one thread, aka it can only really test 1/2 of the phone, second when running quadrant on any tegra 2 device quadrant wont even max out a SINGLE core % wise. AKA its scores mean nothing...
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yep, even with pcs I quit looking at 3d mark scores when I started noticing that 2000 extra points only gave me 1-3 fps more.
real world testing is far better than some generic benchmark. the archos 101 hits 2900, the evo 4g can reach 2700. but do they actually perform better than a tegra 2 device? well... other than high profile hd playback.

Quadrant scores?

I know that quandrant is not a good benchmark because the results depends on the hardware installed (CPU qualcomm or samsung or TI OMAP), but my question is:
Desire S in quadrant advanced reach a score of 3000 in the CPU section; the xperia arc, with the same CPU reach a score of 5500 in the cpu section. They are both on gingerbread....so why this difference?
Also the desire HD with froyo and the same Qualcomm CPU reach a 5500 score...
I can't uderstaind!
sorry 4 my english

My wife just got her Des S, and Mega jump is lagging
Quadrant score is 1000-1200
how can it happen with an Adreno 205 inside?
it has 1.28.401.1 ROM on it. do you experience it with other ROMs too?

liljom said:
My wife just got her Des S, and Mega jump is lagging
Quadrant score is 1000-1200
how can it happen with an Adreno 205 inside?
it has 1.28.401.1 ROM on it. do you experience it with other ROMs too?
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i've got no lag at all....

ilbulgaro89 said:
i've got no lag at all....
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no lag on Mega jump? not even when you pick up a rocket?

liljom said:
no lag on Mega jump? not even when you pick up a rocket?
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no lag at all in this game

ilbulgaro89 said:
no lag at all in this game
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and what is your Quadrant score?

liljom said:
and what is your Quadrant score?
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around 1240

ilbulgaro89 said:
around 1240
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yeah, that is the max I can get too
the funny thing is, that my Desire HD with a Desire S port performs better; same CPU, GPU and screen resolution; and no lag in megajump :/

liljom said:
yeah, that is the max I can get too
the funny thing is, that my Desire HD with a Desire S port performs better; same CPU, GPU and screen resolution; and no lag in megajump :/
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yeah, I also do not explain the differences in benchmark scores with this 2 devices

i gave my opinion of why the lower scores in this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036668
basically there has been a general trend on most phones that gingerbread performs lower than froyo on benchmark tests and performance. this is certainly been my experience. and since the desire s is running gingerbread, while the desire HD is running froyo (i think, right?), that is your answer right there...

Since the Desire S is the "first" device from HTC dressed in Gingerbread...can we safely say that it wasn't an optimized Gingy version that HTC brought up?
If all the Desire family get their Gingerbread update (Classic, HD, Z) and did perform well in benchmarking, that would leave Desire S...????

RogerPodacter said:
i gave my opinion of why the lower scores in this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036668
basically there has been a general trend on most phones that gingerbread performs lower than froyo on benchmark tests and performance. this is certainly been my experience. and since the desire s is running gingerbread, while the desire HD is running froyo (i think, right?), that is your answer right there...
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you are right
I run Gingerbread on my DHD, and the Quadrant is lower
I thought it's because we don't have the gingerbread sources for DHD, and we don't have the right drivers
but still, DHD has 1500-1600 in Quadrant (compare to 1200) with DS 1.28 port :/ and that's a big difference with the same CPU, GPU

liljom said:
you are right
I run Gingerbread on my DHD, and the Quadrant is lower
I thought it's because we don't have the gingerbread sources for DHD, and we don't have the right drivers
but still, DHD has 1500-1600 in Quadrant (compare to 1200) with DS 1.28 port :/ and that's a big difference with the same CPU, GPU
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i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)

ilbulgaro89 said:
i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)
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2 things can save us:
-we find the way to root DS
-we get a good update from HTC

DS is relatively still a "baby"
we'll get there eventually

ilbulgaro89 said:
i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)
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well maybe your friend's incredible s is overclocked, or he has some other type of customization that you are not aware of. because what i am trying to say is that, stock 2.2 vs stock 2.3, there is a performance and quadrant drop, significantly. stock 2.3 may get around 1250 quadrant, and stock froyo may get around 1650 quadrant. i get 1200 on 2.3, but i can over clock to maximum and get 1400. but somethign still isnt right, because i could over clock on 2.2 and get 1700.
also, people say quadrant scores are meaningless. but this has gotten mis interpreted on the web. quadrant scores are meaningless BETWEEN DIFFERENT PHONE MODELS. but quadrant definitely has meanign within the same device. so if your device runs 1600 on 2.2, then 1200 on 2.3, that is a meaningful piece of data. benchmark shows the ability of your phone to do various tasks like scroll a list, load some html or javascript, or parse a bunch of data. so it annoys me when others (not in this thread) say quadrant is meaningless. what the original statement meant was that lower device A could be optimized very well to be smooth, while higher device B could be better hardware, but optimized poorly to not be smooth, and a benchmark would not tell this story. i agree wtih that. but not within the same device i dont
i also see slower choppy scrolling in 2.3, for example tapatalk threads and lists were smooth in 2.2, but choppy and chunky in 2.3, etc. and the benchmark seems to agree with that.

RogerPodacter said:
well maybe your friend's incredible s is overclocked, or he has some other type of customization that you are not aware of. because what i am trying to say is that, stock 2.2 vs stock 2.3, there is a performance and quadrant drop, significantly. stock 2.3 may get around 1250 quadrant, and stock froyo may get around 1650 quadrant. i get 1200 on 2.3, but i can over clock to maximum and get 1400. but somethign still isnt right, because i could over clock on 2.2 and get 1700.
also, people say quadrant scores are meaningless. but this has gotten mis interpreted on the web. quadrant scores are meaningless BETWEEN DIFFERENT PHONE MODELS. but quadrant definitely has meanign within the same device. so if your device runs 1600 on 2.2, then 1200 on 2.3, that is a meaningful piece of data. benchmark shows the ability of your phone to do various tasks like scroll a list, load some html or javascript, or parse a bunch of data. so it annoys me when others (not in this thread) say quadrant is meaningless. what the original statement meant was that lower device A could be optimized very well to be smooth, while higher device B could be better hardware, but optimized poorly to not be smooth, and a benchmark would not tell this story. i agree wtih that. but not within the same device i dont
i also see slower choppy scrolling in 2.3, for example tapatalk threads and lists were smooth in 2.2, but choppy and chunky in 2.3, etc. and the benchmark seems to agree with that.
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my friend's incredible s is a stock phone updated to Gingerbread via OTA today...without any type of hack...incredible s is not rooted!

My understanding was that Gingerbread is quite a bit slower than Froyo in Quadrant tests.
In real use though, it seems fine.
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.

njd said:
My understanding was that Gingerbread is quite a bit slower than Froyo in Quadrant tests.
In real use though, it seems fine.
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.
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Desire HD came out with 2.2, and now it runs 2.3, and yes, the Quadrant went down

njd said:
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.
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On htc-hero score was equal on 2.2 and 2.3 (both overclocked CM-ROMs)
On my NexuS with 2.3 I have scores about 2500 @ 1GHz (and crazy >3000 @ 1,4GHz)
On the DesireS I only get 1200 @ 1Ghz (equal performance gov or ondemand)
Wired is the totaly different fps: desireS has 50fps at the "planet3D" where Nexus has only 20fps; in the "doom3D" it is vice versa
But in everyday use there is no big difference - I tend to sell the NexuS, but really not sure wich phone I should keep..

[Q] Is my phone only using one core?

After running a Quadrant Standard benchmark test, I looked at the "System Information" tab. Under the "CPU" heading it reads "Cores: 1." (See attached screenshot)
Is my phone firing on all cylinders or is it only using one core? Does a dual core chip only register one core at a time when it is not running a process that uses both of its cores? Are any of you noticing a similar thing?
FYI: I am rooted running the stock ROM. I'm getting awesome battery life and quadrant scores 2400-2600. It certainly "feels" dual core.

you are using 2.
Quadrant isnt setup for MultiCore phones yet.
Hence... we have a A9 cpu.... your screen shot shows a A7

krylon360 said:
you are using 2.
Quadrant isnt setup for MultiCore phones yet.
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Does this mean the scores are not/less accurate comparisons?

lobsterhead said:
Does this mean the scores are not/less accurate comparisons?
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bingo! bingo!

lobsterhead said:
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yep. AFAIK, we are getting very little out of the dual core nature right now. I haven't really seen anything indicating that it isn't used at all, but I'm not sure. It feels a hell of a lot faster than my Evo, but maybe the 1 core + GPU is just that much faster. My guess is the dual core is at least being used by seperate apps, or by system and app processes.
At any rate, as the OS and apps build in more support the phone should work even better.

Smartbench 2011 is the only bench app configured for Multi-Core's right now.

sensation single core?

im just curious to kno when we over clock this phone with temp root ...are we only over clocking one processor? im asking this because I've been reading that gingerbread doesn't even use both cores...and we have to wait until ice cream sandwich for both cores to be used like there supposed to be...I kno some games utilize both cores, but for the most part we only have a "single" core phone?
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I'm interested in underclocking/disabling a core. Seeing how that would play out on battery life.

A post I found online says it nicely:
Right now, the android sdk (2.3) provides no means to use more than one CPU core.
Still, multicore CPUs will increase performance because background processes can use CPU time on the core not being used by the running app.
This also applies to garbage collection (GC) which happens periodically (I guess you can trigger it manually too) whilst an app is running. With more than one core, the GC won't block the app which makes it feel "smoother".
I remember reading about Google's plans to improve multicore-support in android 2.4. It will take some time for existing apps to use it though (like it's happened with desktop applications).
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As you can now see, even though the device is dual core, the OS and any applications won't make -full- use of both cores until they are designed to do so. Just like most applications these days won't utilize a quad core processor on your desktop. You are correct in saying that some games are designed to use both, which is noticeable. I don't see why an overclock wouldn't affect both cores.
By the way, your title is full of fail "Gingerbread only using one core?" would have been more suitable, since the device itself has nothing to do with how the OS utilizes its hardware.

I wonder if within the development here we can actually get that working?

xamadeix said:
I wonder if within the development here we can actually get that working?
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Get what working, the overclock on both cores? Or Gingerbread using both cores?
If A: Yes (once S-OFF update comes, or temporarily with Fr3vo until then)
If B: No.

haha I thought about that after I posted..I kno how some pple are on here...easy to flame ya...which is why I don't post often..just read...but thanks for the info...I figured that was the case...can't wait to see what this phone is really capable of....s-off will be here sooner then later
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dontw said:
I'm just curious to know when we over clock this phone with temp root ...are we only over clocking one processor? I'm asking this because I've been reading that gingerbread doesn't even use both cores...and we have to wait until ice cream sandwich for both cores to be used like there supposed to be...I know some games utilize both cores, but for the most part we only have a "single" core phone?
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I agree with you.
It would be nice if both cores ramped up to full speed when even only one is needed.

So in basic terms..
SGSII is a monster of CPU power....
you say its only using 1 core, and SGSII scores about 2-3 times more than our HTC Sensation...
When icecream will be released, the samsung galaxy S ii will socre even higher than our sensation....
I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )

tomeu0000 said:
I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )
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Wait, huh? Are you saying that you think the GS2 is using both cores, and the sensation is only using one? That would completely explain the benchmark scores. Bring on 2.4

tomeu0000 said:
So in basic terms..
SGSII is a monster of CPU power....
you say its only using 1 core, and SGSII scores about 2-3 times more than our HTC Sensation...
When icecream will be released, the samsung galaxy S ii will socre even higher than our sensation....
I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )
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Where did you see a benchmark score where the SGSII is 2-3 times higher than the HTC Sensation?
The only one that I have checked was CF-Bench (which supports dual core) and the SGSII was about 20% higher. Certainly not 200%-300% higher.

tomeu0000 said:
So in basic terms..
SGSII is a monster of CPU power....
you say its only using 1 core, and SGSII scores about 2-3 times more than our HTC Sensation...
When icecream will be released, the samsung galaxy S ii will socre even higher than our sensation....
I do not think android 2.3 is using one core for sure its using both .( even if the OS doesn't support )
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this is gonna be a forever argument between the sensation and the gsII...on paper the sensation has better hardware ..Google it..its all over the forum ...the software is not optimized for the phone.with that being said..neither is the gsII...unless its running honeycomb somehow or ice cream sandwich ...gingerbread its self is the issue...now touchwiz may utilize both cores..im not sure..that may be why the gsII seems way smoother....just wait until this BL is unlocked...this phone will be monster

Do any of you guys remember this: MS update - KB896256?
I remember what that did for my laptop.
Worked real well.

Overclock to more than 1.5ghz??

Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.

Virtuous Quattro ICS rom (and its kernel) goes to 1.9 safely

Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?

i'm not sure, i dont use a sense rom

325i. said:
Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?
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Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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olyloh6696 said:
Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?

325i. said:
Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?
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Yes.. I just said Unity9...
It's not recommended. It's old and has bugs with the front camera.
In the first place, you shouldn't OC higher than 1.5ghz. The chip isn't designed to run a frequencies higher than 1.5ghz for ling periods of time. In the long run, you will damage to motherboard, fry the chip etc. Battery life will also be significantly shorter too.
If your intentions were to do that, i don't think you should have got this phone in the first place, and you should have just stuck with the Sensation.
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325i. said:
Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.
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the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.

dan-fish said:
the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.
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The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags

Hey,
I limited all my kernels, Hyperion, Endymion and Reaper kernels to around 1.5GHz, as it is way more than enough. I did this for some reasons:
- As it has been discussed all over these forums, devices handle OC/UV differently, no matter if the cpu is the same. This has to do with sheer luck with what part you get from the factory, your phone is only guaranteed to work at up to 1GHz. It may seem stable at 1.5 but reboot once a week, some phones may not boot at 1.2, and some phones can chug along happily at 2GHz.
- Every newbie that lands on these forums will instantly set the frequency as high as they can. Then they will get a freeze now and then. Then they pull the battery. Then they kill the phone. THEN they check the forums and read that they should not have pulled the battery.
- With my current roms, where the kernels are tested, there is no need for overclocking. Things run very very smooth at stock values. But I believe in "power to the user", that's why I even give the option to OC. The last time I had to overclock my phone due to lag/choppiness was with Virtuous 2.39 or whatever, months ago.
So ask yourself why you want to go higher. Bragging rights? Quadrant scores to show your mates? Do you even notice a difference between, let's say, 1.2GHz and 1.5GHz? Is it really worth it?
Think about it.
Cheers

So much detail, couldn't have said it better myself In short, 1 Ghz is enough for most, 1.5 is more than enough. Anything above that is DANGEROUS and should be avoided.
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cpx07 said:
The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags
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Yeah, that's the regular Sensation.
We are taking about the XL which has a single core 1.5ghz CPU.
+1 agree with lowveld. I Never OC'ed for normal usage. I don't feel the need. You can't tell the difference in performance IMO
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I'm sorry if I missed the point, but is there anything overclocking that much is necessary for? I mean, I'm at 1,3 GHz max now but my phone runs at 1 GHz 60% of the time, rest of the time lower. I never reached something above 1 GHz.. ?
So why overclocking even more?
Edit:
My mistake, 60% of time it's at 245 mhz and only 30% of time at 1GHz.
But my question is still the same..
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