[Q] Differences between roms ? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all !
Browsing the Android Development forum I could find those roms :
MoDaCo Custom ROM, Bionix NS and GingerS SMALL
As I understand, all three :
- are based on GRH78
- have su / root
- have an unsecure bootloader to enable adb remount
- have the new market
- have busybox
- have various kernel and system optimisations
So, I would like to know :
* What are the diference between them ? (not which one is the best, which is a very different and troll-making question).
* What are the advantages of each of them ?
* Why are they better than the OTA rom (considering that su / root and the new market are installed) ?
Thank you very much !

I know this isnt going to answer your question, but it really is all preference

modaco ROMs are all about being very close to stock ROMs, but with some nice refinements and extras that you need like super user etc.
i dont know those other 3 unfortunately...

MoDaCo is all about maintaining a stock look and feel with just some of his own "optimization scripts" ran on the system. I believe he also deodexes so you can apply themes. He's big on stability as well.
I've only used Bionix on my friend's T-Mo Vibrant, so not sure about on the NS, but it seems more geared towards tweaking out every last bit of performance, and changes the look and feel. It's been a great ROM on my friend's Vibrant.
I've never heard of the third one you linked until you linked it.
I've not yet felt the need to move from stock on my NS. There's a few tweaks I'd like to see (like battery percentage in the status bar), but unlike previous phones, this one just feels great right out of the box.
I'll probably go for Cyanogen v7 once it's stable. Best of the Best on most devices.
But like slowz3r says, it's really just preference. Try them all if you really feel compelled and see which fits your tastes the best.
edit: but warning, being a ROM flasher can be addicting once you start.

distortedloop said:
edit: but warning, being a ROM flasher can be addicting once you start.
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Also being NAND memory, and without TRIM support on Android, you're theoretically hurting that partition's read/write performance each time you flash a ROM. That said, I've flashed the living daylights out of my Nexus One, and it never felt any slower. From what I've read about SSDs on standard PCs, it isn't too horrible.

distortedloop said:
but warning, being a ROM flasher can be addicting once you start.
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I had a HTC Hero before my NS, I'm already a flasher addict. It's too late for me
To summerize and help me choose, I did this chart. It is probably incomplete and relies only on the rom description by their author. If they have a feature and did not mention it, it will be absent on this chart. Sorry folks, if you don't advertise it, we can't know it's here...
As soon as Cyanogen Mod 7 is stable, I'll go on it (CM is such an amazing work). Meanwhile, I think MoDaCo will be fine for me.

timelzayus said:
I had a HTC Hero before my NS, I'm already a flasher addict. It's too late for me
To summerize and help me choose, I did this chart. It is probably incomplete and relies only on the rom description by their author. If they have a feature and did not mention it, it will be absent on this chart. Sorry folks, if you don't advertise it, we can't know it's here...
As soon as Cyanogen Mod 7 is stable, I'll go on it (CM is such an amazing work). Meanwhile, I think MoDaCo will be fine for me.
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where did you find that chart?

slowz3r said:
where did you find that chart?
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He made it.
You should consider CM7 Alpha3 as well. Its very stable and comes with a few extra goodies that the other ROMs don't have.
For example, the notification bar widgets, various tweaks in CM settings, rendering effect etc.

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He made it.
You should consider CM7 Alpha3 as well. Its very stable and comes with a few extra goodies that the other ROMs don't have.
For example, the notification bar widgets, various tweaks in CM settings, rendering effect etc.
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Guess i didnt see that
may i suggest you keep updating that chart, im sure people will find it useful

A lot of people are awaiting CM7 Stable.. but honestly, the nightlies are stable and I haven't experienced any problems with them. Torch isn't working, but there are alternatives on the market.
Try it out, just perform a nandroid backup before flashing.. don't like it? Nandroid restore and you're back to where you were before you flashed.

zephiK said:
A lot of people are awaiting CM7 Stable.. but honestly, the nightlies are stable and I haven't experienced any problems with them. Torch isn't working, but there are alternatives on the market.
Try it out, just perform a nandroid backup before flashing.. don't like it? Nandroid restore and you're back to where you were before you flashed.
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I'll try a preview or rc version, maybe even beta, but I'm just not interested in anything that's still labeled alpha, personally, though not arguing that it's not stable.

slowz3r said:
Guess i didnt see that
may i suggest you keep updating that chart, im sure people will find it useful
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You may suggest But I won't. Sorry, I have a job, a girlfriend and a lot of opensource project... But if someone wants to keep it up to date, I can transmit the ods file.
zephiK said:
A lot of people are awaiting CM7 Stable.. but honestly, the nightlies are stable and I haven't experienced any problems with them. Torch isn't working, but there are alternatives on the market.
Try it out, just perform a nandroid backup before flashing.. don't like it? Nandroid restore and you're back to where you were before you flashed.
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Well I have trouble understanding it's completely stable with the "alpha" postfix. Some hardware, some features, I don't know, something must be unstable for it to be marked alpha...

timelzayus said:
You may suggest But I won't. Sorry, I have a job, a girlfriend and a lot of opensource project... But if someone wants to keep it up to date, I can transmit the ods file.
Well I have trouble understanding it's completely stable with the "alpha" postfix. Some hardware, some features, I don't know, something must be unstable for it to be marked alpha...
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Its labeled alpha because some of the CM specific goodies are not yet included (battery %, UI customizaion, phone/mms lockscreen sliders and other tweaks etc).
But otherwise its stable and everything pertaining to stock GB works fine.
CM7 RC1 cannot be << CM6.1.1 Stable .

I was just looking at the latest MoDaCo r6 and it actually looks interesting to me now. Maybe the flash-a-holic in me is resurfacing. LOL.

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[CM7][POLL]Semi-official cm7 nightlies for target vega?

Please let me know, how much you want nightly builds for the vega tablet.
be honest - if you got no interested in them, say so - its not taken as offense.
we are probably too small to get included in the official build process, but i would provide semi official nightlies.
always build from latest cm7 sources. no mods, nothing changed, build the same way the official nightiles are build. on a regular basis. usually i am on my pc each day - being able to invoke the build script and auto upload it.
Voted for the regulary option but that is because I'm a flashoholic
At the moment I'm using your april 3rd version and flashed all versions before that. Especially when you can flash without loosing data/apps/widgets I see no reason not to update regulary.
I usually flash each version hoping some bug will be fixed, some performance increase will be seen, etc. But a weekly would be fine for me as well for example. Just very thankful for the work you're doing for the vega and CM7 is already an excellent piece of work on it.
I agree for 100%.
I´m also a flashoholic like dagrim1
Once or twice a week would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your time and work. Even when the Android 2.2 Vega rom runs a little bit smoother and more stable this ROM has so much more potential. And I love it really.
dagrim1 said:
Voted for the regulary option but that is because I'm a flashoholic
I can sign this..
I´m on corvus rom last week and something, but I would be really happy to try anything new...
so, my vote - yes I would flas them to try (for sure) and use them, if they would be better than corvus...
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My Vega is still in the post, hopefully it will arrive today although its getting a bit late in the day for deliveries, but i plan on trying CM7 as soons as possible. Im sure i would flash nightlies every few days at least while its developing.
Yes please
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Voted for the regulary option but that is because I'm a flashoholic
At the moment I'm using your april 3rd version and flashed all versions before that. Especially when you can flash without loosing data/apps/widgets I see no reason not to update regulary.
I usually flash each version hoping some bug will be fixed, some performance increase will be seen, etc. But a weekly would be fine for me as well for example. Just very thankful for the work you're doing for the vega and CM7 is already an excellent piece of work on it.
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Same here - a flashoholic, lol...
hunteronx said:
same here - a flashoholic, lol...
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+1
dagrim1 said:
Especially when you can flash without loosing data/apps/widgets I see no reason not to update regulary.
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How do you do this, is it just a case of installing zip file without deleting anything?
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Same here - a flashoholic, lol...
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We are all on here because we are flashaholics I would say.
Bring it on.
Yes, I want to try
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One or two nightlys per week would be fab!
Hi my name is Harplo and I'm a flashoholic
what exactly is different to the viewsonic G 10? i mean in terms of hardware? because my theory is, like the dream/sapphire projects if this CM build could be built for "both" if the hardware is 99% same, then there would be a lot more interest.
i guess the first thing would be to check to see if the kernel sources are any different of the two devices. just a long shot that might save time and gather a lot more interest if they are very similar?
i hope to see them regularly, maybe once a week not like every night. i know that its a lot of work that goes behind it as well as time. specially if a person is doing it on their own.
thats more than enough demand. will starting building this once i finished the tablet tweaks... that long, the tablet tweaks builds are nearly the same as nightlies... just added my stuff
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thats more than enough demand. will starting building this once i finished the tablet tweaks... that long, the tablet tweaks builds are nearly the same as nightlies... just added my stuff
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That is great. I wrote a message to Apache14 about starting a thread, but i did not get an answer. But i think he gets more then enough pm's from people wanting things.... Anyway it would be very nice when there would be a nightly. Flashed all your builds till now.
Thanks.
Bennji said:
How do you do this, is it just a case of installing zip file without deleting anything?
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Basically... You have to have CWM installed. Then put the zip file on your sd-card and boot into CWM where you choose 'install from zip' and select the zip.
But not having to wipe depends on the update itself, not the method. Often when changing between roms a wipe is necessary, sometimes when updating a rom as well but very often you can update without any problems.
Great news about the nightlies!
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thats more than enough demand. will starting building this once i finished the tablet tweaks... that long, the tablet tweaks builds are nearly the same as nightlies... just added my stuff
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Great stuff i cant get enough of these roms. Your tablets tweeks make it so much better to use
Cheers man!!!
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Just discovered your nightlies and flashed them!
Looks great!
Thank you!
Sorry this is slightly off-topic, but for those of you who regularly flash nightly's: Do you have a method of easily restoring apps+data+settings other than Titanium? I have found using Titanium restore-all often leads to problems.
It would be great if somehow an app could allow our tablets and phones to automatically update the read-only partitions nightly, but still preserve... everything that is read/write (and then kill dalvik-cache and reboot).

[Q] Most customizable ROM?

I'm looking for the most customizable custom ROM. Cyanogen Mod 7 is always good (I think at least), but I also read something about Super AOSP. According to the big rom and kernel guide at the development section, it has supsetup which lets you customize every aspect of the ROM, which sounds like exactly what I want. If someone can explain what supsetup really is, that would be cool.
But I've also read that Super AOSP isn't getting updates anymore. Apparently there will be a new ROM in the (near?) future named Super OSR.
I've also read that Super AOSP isn't based on CM7, or at least very little. So what's better in terms of customizability? A ROM based on CM7 (or CM7 itself of course), or a ROM based on AOSP?
Choose any ROM and put SPB Shell on it.
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Choose any ROM and put SPB Shell on it.
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Too simple. Besides, I want it to be unique.
That's why I don't want MIUI. While it's themable, it's not really flexible.
And you only read my 'different homescreen' part. Please read my whole thread before commenting.
I would suggest CM 7 Nightly, but they have new updates alot. So if you want it to be a more constant stableness, check out the CM7 RC build. I read it almost ready for a full release, as far as being stable. Might want to check out the matrix kernal for CM 7 also, its pretty sweet.
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pierre1321 said:
I would suggest CM 7 Nightly, but they have new updates alot. So if you want it to be a more constant stableness, check out the CM7 RC build. I read it almost ready for a full release, as far as being stable. Might want to check out the matrix kernal for CM 7 also, its pretty sweet.
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Well, a lot of new updates is always good IMO. It keeps my phone fresh. That's another reason I liked MIUI. For example, it was cool when they introduced the new lockscreens.
As far as themability goes, are there ROMs that are more 'different' from stock Android, like MIUI?
Alot of rom's are based off stock, For compatability as far as service provider and certain functions of the phone. But some will add tweaks and options not available on stock. Like themes, already rooted, better wallpapers, different system apps but depends on developer. Cm 7 seems to have alot of options to change settings and appearance and how it functions. Make sure you have a decent kernal cause this can affect the performance of the options.
Androyed said:
Well, a lot of new updates is always good IMO. It keeps my phone fresh. That's another reason I liked MIUI. For example, it was cool when they introduced the new lockscreens.
As far as themability goes, are there ROMs that are more 'different' from stock Android, like MIUI?
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I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like you're looking for some completely different OS, but that doesn't really exist. The most you can really get is either a Sense-type ROM, which in truth is pretty similar to stock Android, MIUI, or some other home replacement.
jonnythan said:
I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like you're looking for some completely different OS, but that doesn't really exist. The most you can really get is either a Sense-type ROM, which in truth is pretty similar to stock Android, MIUI, or some other home replacement.
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Well, that answers my question than.
I did find the UI of the Acer Liquid Metal and Acer Stream pretty cool. It doesn't have to be like that 'out of the box', but I want to be able to change it to look like that, if you get what I mean.
I know CM7 looks a lot like stock ROM at first sight, but you can change it a lot untill it looks totally different. I've seen some homescreen shots on XDA to prove that. So basically what I want is a ROM that I can change the most to make it look completely different, not a ROM that is completely different out of the box.
I'm looking for the most customizable custom ROM. Cyanogen Mod 7 is always good (I think at least), but I also read something about Super AOSP. According to the big rom and kernel guide at the development section, it has supsetup which lets you customize every aspect of the ROM, which sounds like exactly what I want. If someone can explain what supsetup really is, that would be cool.
But I've also read that Super AOSP isn't getting updates anymore. Apparently there will be a new ROM in the (near?) future named Super OSR.
I've also read that Super AOSP isn't based on CM7, or at least very little. So what's better in terms of customizability? A ROM based on CM7 (or CM7 itself of course), or a ROM based on AOSP?
Sounds like maybe your looking for a kitchen. Then you could personally customize it with apps and options to suite your needs.
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pierre1321 said:
Sounds like maybe your looking for a kitchen. Then you could personally customize it with apps and options to suite your needs.
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Thanks! Will be looking at that. No idea what it is but some Googling doesn't hurt. Edit: so basically you can theme your whole rom with it? Make your own theme? Looks awesome! Their site isn't working right now but I've looked around on the internet. I still need a ROM with it of course. What would be the best ROM in combination with kitchen for the most customizability?
I rephrased my question because I think I wasn't clear. But can you tell me something about Super AOSP and supsetup?
Questions I have left:
- What is supsetup (a SuperAOSP feature)?
- What is the best ROM to go with UOT Kitchen in terms of customizability?
- Are there more mods that let me customize as much as possible? For example, could I be able to modifiy the settings menu, like the order of the buttons?
- What do I need to customize the living **** out of my Nexus S?
In short, a kitchen lets you add or take away certain options or apps in your rom. Wich allows you to customize its appearance and functionality.
Some kitchens if available, will have extra options or features. That way you don't need to go all over the place to find stuff for the kitchen.
This info might be outdated on kitchens, so look for newer info.
Don't know to much on super AOSP or the setup.
Just remember that even though certain options are available, doesn't mean it will be stable.
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Thanks! Will be looking at that. No idea what it is but some Googling doesn't hurt.
I rephrased my question because I think I wasn't clear. But can you tell me something about Super AOSP and supsetup?
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[Q] What rom is legitimately best for mesmerize?

I know, I know, this sounds like a typical newbie opinion question. But I'm not exactly looking for opinion here. I'm looking for FACTS pertaining to which ROM is going to give me the most optimized performance (un-altered benchmarks or whatever) while still giving me the most functionality(I.E. all aspects of device performing as well or better than stock). I got this device a little over a week ago, and really like it. I have been reading thread after thread and just want some help, so please don't think I'm just looking for a quick un-researched answer. I am looking for legitimate advice. I am currently running VOODOO kernal and oc'd to 1.2 ghz and getting benchmarks around 1650 ish? i believe. I do like TW, but dont swear by it. I tried MIUI, and i cant really stand it. CM doesn't want to flash right either, and i don't know which direction i want to go. I also feel this thread might help others in my position. Does PnP offer noticeable performance increases, aside from removed bloat? Thanks in advance for any advice provided!
Heintz 57 is the best, most stable and functional. Everything works. PnP is a very close second and everything works as well. I say try em all. I have and keep finding myself back on H57. It's really a matter of seeing which one best fits YOUR needs and style.
SRGaudio said:
I know, I know, this sounds like a typical newbie opinion question. But I'm not exactly looking for opinion here. I'm looking for FACTS pertaining to which ROM is going to give me the most optimized performance (un-altered benchmarks or whatever) while still giving me the most functionality(I.E. all aspects of device performing as well or better than stock). I got this device a little over a week ago, and really like it. I have been reading thread after thread and just want some help, so please don't think I'm just looking for a quick un-researched answer. I am looking for legitimate advice. I am currently running VOODOO kernal and oc'd to 1.2 ghz and getting benchmarks around 1650 ish? i believe. I do like TW, but dont swear by it. I tried MIUI, and i cant really stand it. CM doesn't want to flash right either, and i don't know which direction i want to go. I also feel this thread might help others in my position. Does PnP offer noticeable performance increases, aside from removed bloat? Thanks in advance for any advice provided!
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I prefer miui, hands down, and i've tried them all. Miui + glitches kernel, i can get over 3k quad scores. Not to mention, its super cusomizable--super easy to change themes (no need to flash). Not to mention, it's updated weekly by a great team of developers so it's constantly improving.
kallell said:
I prefer miui, hands down, and i've tried them all. Miui + glitches kernel, i can get over 3k quad scores. Not to mention, its super cusomizable--super easy to change themes (no need to flash). Not to mention, it's updated weekly by a great team of developers so it's constantly improving.
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I am running the same MIUI and Glitch and it is impressive, smooth, very customizable ect. For pure performance I found JT's Vanilla GB V6 with either his new kernel V3 or Glitch Kernel to be the fastest performer. Any of the MTD based ROMs seem to perform better and I won't go back myself.
miui ftw.
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Any mtd rom but my favorite is miui
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Miui is sex. Somebody used to put a lot of hard work into porting it for us, hmm perhaps he's off developing elsewhere.
I heard there is a good trigger rom around somewhere. I forget who the dev was but he used to be here. He was AWESOME! But they kicked him out for some reason
I honestly like the MIUI rom. Everything looks and works amazingly. Only one bug atm, no MMS while you are on Wifi. So.. all you do is just disable it and then get your MMS's, and then go back on. It works.
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I honestly like the MIUI rom. Everything looks and works amazingly. Only one bug atm, no MMS while you are on Wifi. So.. all you do is just disable it and then get your MMS's, and then go back on. It works.
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Mms has never worked on wifi got any rom, even stock.
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CM7 is my favorite. It's well thought out by the original developers, looks great, runs good, and will run 3x the benchmark your friends still on stock will! That being said, it's still under development, and will sometimes do some strange things. For example, I woke up one morning to find my screen was on with colors inverted. Had to pull the battery to unfreeze it.
So, for stable ROM, I like H57. It's not as new and sleek, but it's stable and works perfectly!
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Well said.
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Well said.
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Give him credit, it's one of the smartest posts all day.
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You guys crack me up...
kallell said:
I prefer miui, hands down, and i've tried them all. Miui + glitches kernel, i can get over 3k quad scores. Not to mention, its super cusomizable--super easy to change themes (no need to flash). Not to mention, it's updated weekly by a great team of developers so it's constantly improving.
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Can someone post links to the MIUI thread, and links to glitches kernel? I'm running pick-n-pack and ready to try something new. I want to make sure I grab the right files and get this going but I am having a hard time finding the right things. I just need someone that can confirm what the latest files are so i grab the right stuff. I guess I am looking for MIUI and Glitches Kernel. I should be able to figure out how to root, red recovery and use odin out as I've done all of those before.
Thanks.
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Can someone post links to the MIUI thread, and links to glitches kernel? I'm running pick-n-pack and ready to try something new. I want to make sure I grab the right files and get this going but I am having a hard time finding the right things. I just need someone that can confirm what the latest files are so i grab the right stuff. I guess I am looking for MIUI and Glitches Kernel. I should be able to figure out how to root, red recovery and use odin out as I've done all of those before.
Thanks.
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I would stick with the bundled JT's kernel for the moment. Right now if you flash the latest MIUI then the Glitch kernel, you'll lose all sensors. It sounds like they should have the problem fixed soon, though.
Thanks for the quick reply. Are the links in your sig where I can watch for this to make sure I can do this when it's fixed?
You wont find the latest MIUI releases on here anymore. [mod edit: you know the rules....]
I can't seem to find the latest stable build for Heinz, can anyone link?
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[Q] Best Rom for MT4GS?

I apologize as I'm sure there is another thread but I couldn't find it through the search. I am looking for suggestions on a custom ROM, Stability, Performance, Battery Life, Hopefully with increased jpeg quality, and full camera performance. I use my phone on WiFi quite a bit so it would be a plus if the rom had amplified the WiFi to like 15 or 20db.
I'm uncertain as to the development of ICS on this device, But I just came from ICS on my Optimus One which ultimately lead to my device being bricked randomly after beta testing. I absolutely loved ICS, but if the rom isn't stable enough to use as a daily driver then I would rather wait... (and by stable I mean past alpha status, functional beta is stable for me... I did tons of beta testing for Optimus One so I know what to expect as far as stability goes with works in progress)
So if you guys could link me to some of the best ROMS for this device it would be much appreciated.
Good question, this is my second rooted device so my exp. is limited, and ive tried several roms pyroice desensed 1.1.2 most recently and i couldnt get the web browser to load (which oobviously sux). But im runnin doubleshot lite and its pretty much the basic system debloated, and very stable
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OneNawlige said:
Good question, this is my second rooted device so my exp. is limited, and ive tried several roms pyroice desensed 1.1.2 most recently and i couldnt get the web browser to load (which oobviously sux). But im runnin doubleshot lite and its pretty much the basic system debloated, and very stable
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Which web browser were you using? I know that in the development for ICS for Optimus One, there was an issue with the stock browser and Cyanogenmod 9. I know that Opera or QQBrowser was their temporary solution.
My favorite rom is Bulletproof because it has all the features of our phone, and no bugs that I have noticed. I know alot of people prefer other roms because they are faster, or they are ics, but Bulletproof is the only one that hasn't cut out features, and it doesn't have alot of bugs....
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Which web browser were you using? I know that in the development for ICS for Optimus One, there was an issue with the stock browser and Cyanogenmod 9. I know that Opera or QQBrowser was their temporary solution.
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Yeah i was using the stock browser, i might give it another run and use the opera or qqbrowser.... Good look too i liked the system alot but didnt spend much time with it because of the browser issue
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Any PyroIce Rom is amazing.
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Using the Bulletproof Rom, mostly because everything actually works.
Tried the an older Cyangen7 mod, but the battery got way too hot and could never charge beyond 40%
Tried the ICS rom and there are some apps that need to be re-sized, mounting the SD card as a flash drive doesnt work (not into paying 5$ for a widget), problems with wifi tethering to my wifes tablet.
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Just for the record, skialaska, Blue6IX here is the one who created the Bulletproof ROM and I really have to agree with him on this. I feel that tbalden has been doing a great job of contributing a lot of time to multiple different ROMs for different demographics (sense vs nonsense vs cm9) and I really appreciate all of the effort that he has put into the development on this phone.
Personally, I don't like the Sense UI much, so Bulletproof isn't for me. I actually use tbalden's Pyroice desensed ROM. I do, however, respect greatly the amount of work that Blue6IX has put into developing a solid ROM and all the research into the limits of the machine in both speed and voltage.
If you can't respect the developers that donate all their free time to making our devices work better, then you probably don't belong here.
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Lol Blue6IX didnt create bulletproof. Romanbb did. Blue only took over the project when romanbb hauled ass. Just an FYI.
AndroidBotx said:
Lol Blue6IX didnt create bulletproof. Romanbb did. Blue only took over the project when romanbb hauled ass. Just an FYI.
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Yeah
funny how Roman creates a hell of a ROM on the GNex but left us for p00p huh
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Lol Blue6IX didnt create bulletproof. Romanbb did. Blue only took over the project when romanbb hauled ass. Just an FYI.
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My apologies, I meant no disrespect. I just see Blue6IX on the posts and he's maintaining it. I didn't realize that it was created by romanbb.
At this point, I think skialaska is just trolling. Best ignore him and move on, methinks.
Whew, had to do some serious cleanup... I know, part of it is my fault, I've been away (70hr weeks will do that to you).
Anyhoo, let's not bicker lest I have to close this thread. These "Best ROM" threads are always very polarizing and full of personal opinion - let's do our best to not attack others work, and just state what we feel is best and why. No need to put down other builds/ROM's because you don't like 'em!
yellowjacket1981 said:
My favorite rom is Bulletproof because it has all the features of our phone, and no bugs that I have noticed. I know alot of people prefer other roms because they are faster, or they are ics, but Bulletproof is the only one that hasn't cut out features, and it doesn't have alot of bugs....
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is BULLETPROOF for Amaze 4G or MT4GS?
samuel0213 said:
is BULLETPROOF for Amaze 4G or MT4GS?
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Just a guess....but this one maybe?
WeekendsR2Short said:
Just a guess....but this one maybe?
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lmao
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Hi WeekendsR2Short,
I couldn't find anywhere to mention this that I could post to since I'm a new member and can't post on the actual developer page for the Alien Mod Solar Flare that you created. I actually had more success with Play Store with the zip integrated with the GApps.
First off, I highly recommend this mod to anyone because of it's amazing speed. I installed it as an upgrade from 2.3.4 and I really don't want to go back. So, I want to keep it, but I've run into some problems that I need your help with. I hope I don't get banned or anything for posting this here. My apologies if this should go somewhere else.
1. Any web browser I use, stock or dolphin mini, crash after accessing pages. Chrome installs, but crashes when I load a page "Unfortunately, Chrome has stopped."
2. When loading, Netflix goes back to my apps list after a second on the red splash screen.
Steps taken during install:
1. Formatted sd card to ext4
2. Then I followed the install instructions listed on the main page in red and black using "AlienMod Solar Flare Series V XXX 4.1.2 (DS).zip" through clockwork mod
3. After the install, I "Then flush Dalvik & fix permissions" according to your later instructions.
Could my crashing apps be related to flash content not loading? I'm really stumped here.
Thanks again for your hard work and I truly appreciate any input because I really don't want to use any other rom!
Yeah, there was a browser issue that popped up for a few people. It just kinda appeared in the port & I never could figure out what it was or why it wasn't consistent. As for the apps....shoot give it a try your way. Then the next time thru recovery just flush dalvik & reset permissions then.
Good JB Roms
Just wanted to drop a line for other non-devs who may be experimenting with JB Roms, and share my experiences. A couple months back, I was using only SilverL ROMS (swapping back and forth between CM 10 and AOKP). SilverL is doing some great work and still highly stable. I've been playing with tbalden's CM 10.1 rom recently though, because it is finally as stable as SilverL's and seems to have slightly better battery life and the camera seems sharper--also good video playback.
If you're looking for a more blingy ROM, WeekendsR2Short's recent PACMan release looks excellent, and has the coveted Rings widget as stock. I loved the look, but the settings UI was awkward with the split screen, and I kept having the settings crash if I tried to manage storage. Still, sweet ROM if you like the visuals over some (admittedly very minor) functionality.
All in all, I think all three of these devs deserve serious props for the progress they've made in these last short weeks. I am having a really hard time deciding between SilverL's AOKP (since I like the look) and TBalden's slightly more bulky CM10.1. I'm leaning toward tbalden just because I won't have to either splice in more ringtones or rely on SD access to get some decent ones. Arbitrary, I know. Kudos to all.
Cheers,
Wulf
P.S., on a side note, my 13-yr-old really wants to learn coding, and I thought AOSP or AOKP might be a good place to play. Any suggestions for getting him started?
greowulf said:
Just wanted to drop a line for other non-devs who may be experimenting with JB Roms, and share my experiences. A couple months back, I was using only SilverL ROMS (swapping back and forth between CM 10 and AOKP). SilverL is doing some great work and still highly stable. I've been playing with tbalden's CM 10.1 rom recently though, because it is finally as stable as SilverL's and seems to have slightly better battery life and the camera seems sharper--also good video playback.
If you're looking for a more blingy ROM, WeekendsR2Short's recent PACMan release looks excellent, and has the coveted Rings widget as stock. I loved the look, but the settings UI was awkward with the split screen, and I kept having the settings crash if I tried to manage storage. Still, sweet ROM if you like the visuals over some (admittedly very minor) functionality.
All in all, I think all three of these devs deserve serious props for the progress they've made in these last short weeks. I am having a really hard time deciding between SilverL's AOKP (since I like the look) and TBalden's slightly more bulky CM10.1. I'm leaning toward tbalden just because I won't have to either splice in more ringtones or rely on SD access to get some decent ones. Arbitrary, I know. Kudos to all.
Cheers,
Wulf
P.S., on a side note, my 13-yr-old really wants to learn coding, and I thought AOSP or AOKP might be a good place to play. Any suggestions for getting him started?
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Agreed, I've checked the forums on and off for months looking for stable daily driver mods without issues I felt would prohibit use of this phone compared to the stock roms, but the stuff out now with JB is damn usable. I've been using SilverL's unofficial CM10.1 for a little over 2 weeks myself as well, have seen little bugs already get fixed in that little time, and have almost 0 issues with it as a daily driver. Amazing, amazing work being done in this place. I'd been on stock GB fully locked non-rooted phone before this. Now that I saw more and more apps are finally requiring 4.X or higher I figured I'd check and see what's available here, and was not in the least disappointed! Kudos to all those involved in the hard work going on here!
The best rom is any stock optomized rom....at the same time sense gets dull and boring too look at so jb will liven it up but it will break features such as the crispy clean sense camera or internet passthrough fast boot time and others...depending on your outlook on things the best may be the one with more tweaks...or the most stable...all in all jb does things sense stock can't....sense stock also does things jb can't do...my battle is the sense camera...my how ide love it in a jb rom
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What's the difference between all these ICS ROMs/ports?

I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
U can go to other forum like i9000 and nexus S and ask this question there, too ...they r just for your own choice lol, just flash one u like
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chris31jct said:
I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
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They basically all come from the same base as far as Android OS goes, and as far as comparing no one can tell you what to choose. I know you are not asking for someone to choose for you, but that kinda is where the question leads. Compare them for yourself. See what you like. They all have their own flavor, mods, tweaks. Some are closer to stock, others are heavily modded. That's your answer in a nutshell. No one is gonna sit down and draw you up a chart of features for each rom.
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
chris31jct said:
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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You just have to choose what you like and what works for you. It's that simple. Until Aries is released and we have an updated kernel, they are all about the same, but Aries will fix some issues. Like those blasted capacitive back lights timing out.
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What made you choose miui for your phone? Did you try different ROMs before?
@HKSpeed
Oh, I haven't updated that... I'm on CM9 at the moment. My ROMs of choice are Team Acid's. I have been using their work since Froyo so I'm biased. I was on AOKP but battery was a big issue for me, it drained very fast, so I went on CM9 to see how it works since most other ROMs are based on it. Thought it should be more simple, less tweaked. I have tried all, except Linaro and Provision. I like them all but somehow I can't notice difference between them except but a few little things here and there.
I was on MIUI because Dao kept updating it and fast. It was more advanced than other ports/ROMs, then I went on AOKPBC just to see and the theme was too heavy, awesome but not what I was looking for.
I'm not saying I will stay on CM forever, might go on a flashing rampage sometime soon. I know these are WIP that depend on kernel so until then I shall keep experimenting.
I know the others have said pretty much the same thing I am saying, but it comes down to a matter of choice. The ICS roms are all CM9 base if I am not mistaken, so you are dealing with mostly the same issues and bugs on each, so it really comes down to a point of which theme you want and which apps/bloat you want. It becomes a real pain to have to debloat/rebloat a rom and I only ever do so if the theme and layout is custom and really nice but fun to use. If it's basically a stock rom and doesn't have typical apps/bloat/mods/tweaks that I am used to using, I hit the thanks button for the hard work that helps future devs have an easier time and keep looking for a rom that has everything I want. Right now, I am going to be selling my phone soon so I can get a SGS III at least, or maybe wait to see if the rumors are true and T-Mob gets the One X+. I'm drooling over that OC'd Tegra 3 ::fingers-crossed: But, that doesn't mean I won't be trying out different roms at the moment. I love the ICS roms but hate that I can't use calling over wifi. I know there are other options, but they are a bit of trouble with linking google voice among other things, so ICS isn't really for me yet even though it is beautiful. There's my choice...what's yours?
Ive tried to not post but it bothers me when people cant understand a simple question.
Chris31jct is NOT asking for you to convince him. He is asking why did YOU choose a specific rom.
He is also asking for a reason other than the generic responses given 90% of the time.
I started out on aokp then when slimics was released I used it for a while. I wanted to try aokp to see why it was so popular. I like aokp the customization options its a nice rom. I wanted to try slimics just because it doesnt have all the extra apk that aokp and cm9 have that I never use.
Most of the time I will test a rom just to see what the hype is.
3 things decide your choice of a ROM:
Stability
Customization
Battery consumption
In terms of Stability, Usually the higher the customization and options of a ROM, the more conflicts it has( not a rule).
Battery should be the same on all since they use same code and kernel.
Graphic Customization: AOKP is the Best
Settings and options: CM9 is the best
Stability + Battery: I personally prefer SlimRom or Stock cuz it has the most required customization and its very slim( about 80 mb) so probably lighter on your phone.
I wasn't trying to convince him. I know he'll choose whatever rom he wants and that's not for me to decide and/or judge. I was merely stating why most of us choose the roms we choose which is what I interpreted the question to be. The reasons I gave are the reasons I choose the roms I choose. I don't mean to speak for everyone, but that would be the most basic reason to choose a rom other than just to try out what is out there but we ultimately stick with certain roms due to what's included in the rom as well as the stability of it, although as stated before by more than just me, the ICS roms have the same bugs and therefor the same stability issues. Again, not trying to step on anyone's toes, I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I answered the question as I interpreted it.
Also, as to specific roms, I'd be here all day if I chose to speak on that because I started using custom roms on my old G1 and I've tried out probably over 100 roms for various phones over the last few years. For that matter, I could go way back to the days of the Motorola Razor and a few other phones out around the same time, but I was speaking more about android roms. As far as the roms is concerned I don't care if it's miui, ICS, AOKP, etc. If it has the features I'm looking for and is stable, then I use it until something comes around I like better.
I went with AOKP because
It had full source code and I could modify it as I wanted
I liked the layout of toggles
AOKP ROM Control had features I wanted
I could long-press Back to kill a process
It has "quiet hours"
It has decent control of background data use
I knew where the kernel came from and it has full source code
I knew where all binaries came from and it has full source code
I know the last two of these are an absolute requirement under GPL, but many ROM "authors" fail to provide this information.
AOKP has some "crap" that I freeze to improve performance, but I haven't run out of on-phone storage yet.
CyanogenMod 9, for me, wasn't quite as "usable" as AOKP, the way I use my phone.
MIUI is too "Technicolor" and gimmicky for me. Most of what it has (other than a decent File Explorer, when it doesn't crash) I consider "bloat."
SLIM seemed like a good candidate, but without easy access to full source and the ability to build as I desired, it wasn't on my short list. I tried Lightning or whatever its "default" launcher is, but it had a couple things that just didn't allow me to set up my phone the way I wanted (paging is "wonky" to the way I have come to think of a launcher).
Kernel -- Well, Hefe Kernel pretty clearly added what I wanted; better battery life without significant impact in responsiveness. I'm glad others find what works for me helping them out too.
The Zip-n-Go ROMs don't, in general, excite me. I'm not a big theme guy and I can add/remove what I want pretty easily myself.
@krazymonkeys
I understand your point. I also try everything and then stick to one ROM.
@eollie
Thanks bro.
@jeff
That's the best example of kind of answer I was looking for. Thanks!
I'm on Erik's MIUI 2.8.10.
I tried it because I like the UI: I like the notification bar and full screen toggles, I like the kill app back button feature, the task manager combined task killer home button and all the sys apps. It is super fast, lighweight and easy to use. It is stable and gives instant GPS lock.
Only problem is the battery consumption, but it's kernel related I believe.
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@itzik2sh
I tried MIUI but it is too bright. Don't get me wrong. I like it a lot. But since we don't have Automatic Brightness, then it was a pain. Anyway, it's a great ROM and I think battery didn't drain more than it does on other ROMs. What I love most about MIUI is the phone and text's apps.

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