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Feedback Needed From The Thunderbolt Community

If you recently purchased a Thunderbolt ....
You may be in the same boat as me, looking at rooting. Everyone is talking about gingerbread coming to our phones. I haven't seen an OTA as of yet, but it has leaked. located here->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1225752
Now,
I know that you can root very easy here->
http://revolutionary.io/
and I would play close attention to this video as it provides detailed instructions ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UK_CiB2SYk
**WAIT**
Before you dive in, here comes my question.
If you have done your research, there are alot and I mean ALOT of roms to flash for the thunderbolt.
I would like some feedback as to what rom you have flashed.
This will help anyone new to the thunderbolt party as well as myself.
I have yet to make a decision on rooting or waiting.
Your feedback below please.
Thank you all in advance
And as ALWAYS,
Thank you to all the developers who are working there butts off !

I tried out team bamf first, but then they jumped ship to their own forum. So then droidtheory started releasing roms and jumped to him and haven't looked back.
He has a sense and aosp (cm7) version and also dhacker and xpack have released their own versions based off of droidtheory's work.
xpack's senseless rom is very nice. Has the sense base so gps and nfl network work right out of the gate, but no sense (adw launcher instead) so its fast and smooth.

nrfitchett4 said:
I tried out team bamf first, but then they jumped ship to their own forum. So then droidtheory started releasing roms and jumped to him and haven't looked back.
He has a sense and aosp (cm7) version and also dhacker and xpack have released their own versions based off of droidtheory's work.
xpack's senseless rom is very nice. Has the sense base so gps and nfl network work right out of the gate, but no sense (adw launcher instead) so its fast and smooth.
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You can't go wrong with DroidTh3orys ROMS.

Root. Now. That way you can make your choice when/if GB actually comes. You can always go back to stock unrooted. You may not be able to root with the new OTA.
Roms? Like many things they are a personal choice that no one can make for you. Having flashed them all, I can tell you they have improved dramatically since I got my bolt in May. If you choose to root, do yourself a favor and try several. You will find the Rom that suits your taste and needs.
courtesy of my bolt and tapatalk

I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo

thisismalhotra said:
I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo
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100% agree with this guy.

Us leaving XDA doesn't change anything about the quality of our roms. Fact is, many of our innovations end up in other roms anyway (ask ihtfp69 and erishasnobattery).
You can find us at teambamf.net, or rootzwiki.com.
There are many roms to choose from out there. Try them all, then decide.

Thank you all for your feedback. I made sure to click the Thank You buttons on all of your comments.
Once again thanks for the quick response. will be flashing later on today.
Im hoping this post may help some new Thunderbolt owners.

For sense based I like synergy but shift aosp is dope
Sent from my tbolt running ShiftAOSP

thisismalhotra said:
I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo
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On what basis do you feel that ShiftAO5P is the best? I am not throwing stones and am just curious what makes this Rom stand out for you? Thanks!

I am using Luquid Gingersense v1.6 and I really like the sense 3.0 and Gingerbread look.

Lyondellic said:
On what basis do you feel that ShiftAO5P is the best? I am not throwing stones and am just curious what makes this Rom stand out for you? Thanks!
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**Every phone behaves differently just want to add this before anything.
Multiple reasons, first and foremost my phone behaved the best with ShiftAO5P. I had a very smooth running phone and an amazing battery life with all the bells and whistles turned on. I went from 4 am in the morning to almost 6 in the evening without a charge. I am a moderate to heavy user, my battery does not last that long EVER.
2nd, choices with the rom was amazing multiple governers, mulitple kernels you can try them all till you find the best combo.
3rd, support DT is very active on the forum so answers and issues are resolved very fast.

I have flashed almost every Rom for the TB.
My recs are
Sense: DroidTh3orys Sense Rome
AOSP: CM7 or Omfgb for those who like tweaks. TheRom for those who want a vanilla experience.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using XDA App

I'm currently running synergy and i really like it. It works flawlessly on my phone now. I'm considering switching to shift though just to get flash happy
Sent using my thumbs on my SwiftKey X neon keyboard, synergy ran TB.

thisismalhotra said:
**Every phone behaves differently just want to add this before anything.
Multiple reasons, first and foremost my phone behaved the best with ShiftAO5P. I had a very smooth running phone and an amazing battery life with all the bells and whistles turned on. I went from 4 am in the morning to almost 6 in the evening without a charge. I am a moderate to heavy user, my battery does not last that long EVER.
2nd, choices with the rom was amazing multiple governers, mulitple kernels you can try them all till you find the best combo.
3rd, support DT is very active on the forum so answers and issues are resolved very fast.
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Thanks for getting back to me on this. I will have to give ShiftAO5P a try.

I've been running dasBamf Roms for a month now and love them. I am currently on UberBamf PR3. every Tbolt is different, so experiment and see what works best for YOU. After you install each ROM, make a back up of it. That way, if you install one, that you don't like, you can revert.

I like a fast, customizable ROM without all the Sense bloat so I use Liquid Thundersense. I've only had this phone for 5 days so I really have no other Thunderbolt ROM to compare it to (I ran Gingeritis for a couple hours and the stock ROM only long enough to download Gingeritis to the device; I just hate Sense lol). As far as it goes though I've owned five Android devices total and have rooted and ran custom ROMs on all of them. Only way to go IMHO.
Sent from my Liquid Thunderbread HTC Thunderbolt

Dumb question, do you keep the camera effects with different roms. I really like the focal effect. Lol
Sent from my Thunderbolt using XDA App

I can't say for sure, but I just checked mine, and it had all the camera effects in it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

They all offer something different. I have tried almost all. It's hit and miss. What works for me might not work for you. Keep flashing you will find your liking.
Sent from my phone.

CyanogenMod, rant and review

Here are some of my thoughts on CyanogenMod, and their development advances. Please, discus...
http://goo.gl/ndfAi

imheroldman said:
Here are some of my thoughts on CyanogenMod, and their development advances. Please, discus...
http://goo.gl/ndfAi
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Thank
Send From My Samsung Galaxy using XDA

Don't see a whole lot of rant in that post, but anyway. I feel that your view on whether to go CM or MIUI is spot on. I understand that people have a preference, but when I have seen and tried devices with both I end up with largely the same experience. Taste is all it comes down to!

i am very thankful for Cyanogen Mod. Never tried MIUI

can send mms with cyanogenmod?

I liked CM7, very fast and lots of memory
the only thing was I couldn't synchronize my contacts with FB profiles pics like in HTC sense

dariovine said:
I liked CM7, very fast and lots of memory
the only thing was I couldn't synchronize my contacts with FB profiles pics like in HTC sense
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That is because Google removed the ability unless you installed the FB app

Herold,
I need you to work on your writing a bit more before you submit a piece to be critiqued. Proper apostrophe placement is not only a pet peeve of mine, but a clear indication of someone who refused to pay a very small amount of attention in English class.
Sincerely,
The ****

I'm glad that there are so many developers interested in porting CM to various devices. It's the only thing that makes using a non-Google phone/tablet usable for me. I can't wait for stable CM9.

I love CM, the ability for themes is awesome. I currently use the ICS theme and it doesn't even look close to stock Gingerbread. And it is the most stable ROM that I've experienced, too.

Nice post, I never tried AOSP or MIUI and just recently got into using CM roms. Gave me more information on the new roms I've been seeing. I would agree you don't rant too much nor go into too much detail as the pros or cons of each variation of the mods.

I had CM7 with my Desire Z,
now with Sensation, I'm currently tryin InsertCoin 4.0.X
Can't really deside, both have their ways

I am hoping that they port over CM7 or CM9 to the sensation xl. Im currently running the bindroid rom which is good but really holding out for cyanogenMod.

themonk1 said:
I am hoping that they port over CM7 or CM9 to the sensation xl. Im currently running the bindroid rom which is good but really holding out for cyanogenMod.
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I hope so too. I'm planning to buy the Sensation XL. But won't do unless i make sure there will be CM7 or 9 Port

i tried CM and MIUI and i prefer MIUI absolutely!

In my opinion, I think that CyanogenMod will surpass stock Android when it comes to features and stability, eventually.

It probably already has... when you consider that its on yaffs2 and not ext4

Stability?
I have been using CM7 ever since I got tired of rooted stock. The first version I installed was 7.0.0, which lasted about 4 months until it started wigging out. I flashed 7.0.3, and that was great until three weeks later it started exhibiting the same problems as the previous version. I reflashed the same version and had a little more success, lasting without error until 7.1.0 Stable was released. Since October, I've had to reflash at LEAST 5 times, due to instability. Now don't get me wrong, when CM7 works it REALLY works well. When it doesn't...my phone is worthless until I reflash. I would LOVE to know why everything starts force closing after x amount of time, as I'm really getting tired of setting things up the way I want them each and every time. *steps down from soap box*

i loved CM7 on my N1

Good too read a review about something which isn't commercially developed.

how do you choose a rom?

I am starting to understand why...but there are so many options...
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

First of all you have to try all roms and then go for the best one and the one who fits better to you... I can't say how to do it... Everyone is different
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

all rom's on xda are cool!¨

One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher

I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.

there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)

Well here are some preferences of mine...Perhaps you can narrow down three or four first choices.
Well I would not know the difference between sense based and not right now, so probably should aim to get close to it and slowly experiment outwards...
I want completely stable, the xe is fast enough so don't need faster (for now) but I do want themes capability. I like a very personalized interface. And ideally would rather make my own, but doubt I could without software for that like I had on my K77i.
I don't particularly care about popular, but I suppose popular does indicate stability and or other major benefits. I would not risk a new ROM I think.
I use mine, for everything, much more than calls and texts, and would use it to read a lot. So in that sense I do need low power consumption. Movies mostly at night with lowest brightness, but some times videos during the day too, such as exercise programs...
I hope not to catch a romming bug, I have had the phone only a few days and it's still not got all I want organized into it...It takes a lot of effort to set thing up right, at least for me, so I don't want to do that every couple of weeks...Mind you when I have the apps I want and calendar set up and what not I suppose that won't be so hard.

Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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if you're going for the ics aosp feel then you should try both hypernonsense and virtuous inquisition and then decide which one you want to keep
as someone already stated - you should ask yourself what do you really need and it should be easy then...
for instance i need a stable room,ics looks,everything working and as few system apps as possible(only those which are required for a rom to function properly),no live wallpapers,no unnecesary ringtones and simillar so i chose hypernonsense

cocoman93 said:
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
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HyperNonSense is everything Virtuous Inquisition is, but without all of the glitches and with significantly increased speed and fluidity.

Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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So the actual CM9 builds aren't doing it for ya are they?

When choosing a ROM I typically look at the bug list first to see if there are any show stoppers then its on to the comments posted to see what the general consensus of the ROM is.
Really though, I do a lot of sampling to get a feel for what ROMs I like best and narrow it down to just a few then flash between them depending on mood really and whether or not I feel like running AOSP or Sense based.

It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?

8thsiner said:
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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This guide is one of the best ones I've seen (it is specific for arhd but steps are basically the same for all roms with ics base):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
It.is scary at first bit once you do it once it becomes a lot easier. Just take your time the first time, double check you've got the correct files, and then take a deep breath. LOTS of people have done it and I'm sure you'll be just fine.
-- Zeustopher
from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

Apparently that is a very god guide, flashed with success, though I am having troubles with it, not aside from the fact that Titanium has been giving me issue hanging lots on certain installs, and now certain games crash upon loading past the main screen. and other games I now have touch issues, randomly it seems as it seems to freeze control for a few seconds.
ANd I am right in understanding now that my firmware is upto date I ca flash any ICS based rom?
I think it was the firmware issue that I missed in the hypernonsense rom thread, and that is why it banjaxed things to bits...
I am still looking at other roms bbig time like, I want go launcher as my base and I think the ICS base takes up far far too much space, I am getting lag with ARHD and not even all of my things are back in place.
The other issue I have is now I need to clean up my phone, 16gb card and I have barely 2gb left for all the different back ups...I only have 4gb or so in my documents folder which is where I keep nearly everything from pictures, music, videos and ebooks etc...
I think it will be easy enough to clean up some things, But for those apps that persistently bother me, Is there a good clean up tool, for destroying apps, plus data???Preferably a super user app with batch automation???

Zeustopher said:
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
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Thank you for the detailed info. I appreciate it. Helped me understand things a little bit better, since I am new to all this.:good:

Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?

wjdijkstra said:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
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Wow you are spot on!
I thought of recommending you cm10.1 kang or something.. But the good camera won't be a pass in this (hands down sense 3.6 camera is the best).. So your choice is perfect except you'll miss the latest version of android (jellybean)
Btw you should use sultans sense kernel as hyper non sense is still sense based but 99% sense stuff removed
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

best rom for triumph with mostly working features?

what is your most favourite rom where a majority of the features work? aside from the core functionality, i guess i'm primarily needing the wifi+data+camera to all work properly. will hdmi ever work on any rom?
anyway, please name some roms that you particularly like as i'm late to the triumph party and would like some suggestions. thanks.

khanvict85 said:
what is your most favourite rom where a majority of the features work? aside from the core functionality, i guess i'm primarily needing the wifi+data+camera to all work properly. will hdmi ever work on any rom?
anyway, please name some roms that you particularly like as i'm late to the triumph party and would like some suggestions. thanks.
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FROYO
Right now the most exciting ROM is the Sharp Froyo ROM by Bsydz - Everything works as far as I know, I think he also fixed the voice mail issue
http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-sharp-2-2-2-triumph-updated-6-27-12-a.html
CM7
g60 style - final - This is a great ROM there is a few bugs but most users love this ROM as it's Gingerbread, HDMI does not work. There is also a handful of variants of the this ROM people have themed. The newest one, that is being built from source code is StarShip by chairshot215.
CM9
There is Mantera's CM9 which is a solid rom, however no Camera or HDMI. There is also AOKP by rukin5197 again no Camera or HDMI I have not installed that but I hear lots of cool features not offered on CM9.

G60 style is by far the best ROM as far as I'm concerned.
I am not a big fan of Froyo, but the Sharp ROM is smooth and everything works.
The CM9 stuff is pretty cool but not as fast or stable and the camera doesn't work.
If you want Ice Cream Sandwich, try the G60 style ROM with Holo launcher and the Cynocream theme. That's what I am running and the only difference I see is that there aren't widgets in the app drawer. Other than that, it is pretty much a complete ICS experience.
G60, I was going to post this in the Development forum, but apparently I am not allowed. I am also getting random reboots on your ROM. It never gets to the point of boot looping but it does reboot a couple of times a day. I also have been restoring all my apps and some app data with titanium backup. I will probably try reflashing and not using TB at some point to see if that works. I will let you know what I find. In the meantime, thanks for the awesome ROM! It made me happy to have this phone for the first time!

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G60, I was going to post this in the Development forum, but apparently I am not allowed. I am also getting random reboots on your ROM. It never gets to the point of boot looping but it does reboot a couple of times a day. I also have been restoring all my apps and some app data with titanium backup. I will probably try reflashing and not using TB at some point to see if that works. I will let you know what I find. In the meantime, thanks for the awesome ROM! It made me happy to have this phone for the first time!
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While I am a fan of Titanium I have found as I moved from g60 version to g60 version I started having more problems. Finally on my journey I recommend everyone do full wipes and dalvik. Then reload apps from Play Store. That always seems to put the issue to bed, it sucks because it's a lengthy process but that is a sure fire way to kill all problems.

Right now we have only 3 supported ROMs.
There are some others, but development has bees stopped, developers left or just putting things all hold.
The good news all ROMs are fully working! Well, almost.
1. Sharp ROM - almost Stock with a few goodies like fully working GPS and Tethering
2. CM7 g60 - as close as it can get to CM7 with all CM goodies minus HDMI and slow GPS. No updates but it is in progress, developers are here, still working, still coding.
3. StarShip - everything CM7 has + theme + few nice tweaks, frequent updates.

Yeah, the Sharp ROM is a port from the Sharp SH8188u. It is fully functional now with Ver6, just has 2 quick fixes that have to be done after you install the ROM. Other than that it is one of the fastest and smoothest options we have.
I was running G60's CM7 before I got the Sharp ROM working. It was very nice.
There are a few options out there but you just have to find what suits you and what you can live with and what you can't.

My current favorite is the CM7 Tickerguy Reloaded 3-25 FINAL! The g60 has some kind of wierd 360 launcher in chinese! The launcher and extra stuff does slow it down! I am currently in development for the Motorola Triumph! I have a new ROM that is called the GingerMOD. I will be tweaking the CM7 Tickerguy ROM!
As for FROYO: DON'T PICK FROYO! ITS SLOW AND BATTERY LIFE STINKS!
And there are no ICS ROMS out there with working camera yet sorry

JALStudios said:
My current favorite is the CM7 Tickerguy Reloaded 3-25 FINAL! The g60 has some kind of wierd 360 launcher in chinese! The launcher and extra stuff does slow it down! I am currently in development for the Motorola Triumph! I have a new ROM that is called the GingerMOD. I will be tweaking the CM7 Tickerguy ROM!
As for FROYO: DON'T PICK FROYO! ITS SLOW AND BATTERY LIFE STINKS!
And there are no ICS ROMS out there with working camera yet sorry
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I'm using g60's latest he has gotten rid of the 360 launcher and alot of the extra apps that slowed it down, alot smoother now. Agree about the froyo lol, and not asking for eta but will you be releasing your rom? If you need a tester let me know, thanks :thumbup:
Sent from my ADR6350 using xda app-developers app

Good ROM and a Side Note
Yeah, Starship is awesome! I highly reccommend it currently, as it has more of g60's tweaks (A GPS tweak, to be specific), than cm7-g60style even currently has in its stable form. The good news is that sometime in the future there will be a stable (not RC!) CM7 with rewritten device files, so a lot of the issues will be gone!

Beta ROMs
The latest beta mtdev.us release is great for me, at least. Although not everything is working yet, everything is smoother and much more stable. Also, no random reboots after about a week of usage (including leaving the phone on overnight several times). It's rock solid! :good:

MikeRL100 said:
The latest beta mtdev.us release is great for me, at least. Although not everything is working yet, everything is smoother and much more stable. Also, no random reboots after about a week of usage (including leaving the phone on overnight several times). It's rock solid! :good:
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Would you mind linking me over to that release? I'd love to give it try.

Cataulin said:
Would you mind linking me over to that release? I'd love to give it try.
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http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/
Sent from my ADR6350 using xda app-developers app

In my opinion the Bliss v1.3 rom is the best right now, it looks great too! It's crisp and smooth!

Envy is Random said:
In my opinion the Bliss v1.3 rom is the best right now, it looks great too! It's crisp and smooth!
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To many froyo roms, gb or ics need more
Sent from my WX435 using xda app-developers app

CM9's ICS build is pretty stable. its still going through the growing phases. Its not even outta alpha just yet. But damn is it smooth.

Tickerguy's CM7 was very stable when I ran my Triumph.

Knosos said:
Tickerguy's CM7 was very stable when I ran my Triumph.
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Speaking of, whatever happened to MotorolaTriumphacks dot com?
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Knosos said:
Speaking of, whatever happened to MotorolaTriumphacks dot com?
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Am I up to 10 yet so I can post in big boy forums?(sigh)

Look for MTDEV-CM7, its the most current and up to date version of cm7, and its still has a team.of devs working on it

Quoting yourself and answering, may not be the best way to get to 10 spamming the thread
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henslo said:
Quoting yourself and answering, may not be the best way to get to 10 spamming the thread
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Meh, I suppose in the 5 minute wait time between posts I didn't notice the quote.. Regardless I was providing info based on experience (Tickerguy Reloaded CM7 on Moto Triumph was nice) and asking legitimate questions (E.G. Does anyone know what happened to the guy who ran the Triumph site.. it seems to have dried up and gone stale earlier this year.
Not necessarily spam.
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[Q] Best Rom for MT4GS

Hi I just bought my MT4GS a couple of days ago, I upgraded from a Mytouch 3g (SuperCSVI 4.0), I also want to modify this phone. Im looking for a rom that is stable, depenable, and fast. The development forms dosn't seem to be makeing much progress with jellybean other than wildchilds VanillaBean. Also I would help alot if it were Sense 4+. Can anybody help?

It sounds like you just described Virtuous Inquisition.

WeekendsR2Short said:
It sounds like you just described Virtuous Inquisition.
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I have read about the rom, although I also read some complaints over it.

lifebound said:
I have read about the rom, although I also read some complaints over it.
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Its like this man, straight and to the point without being mean. You are not going to find ANY 100% solid ROM that no one has a complaint over. We have 2 ROMS based on Stock OTA Updates that's it. Everything else is a port of this or that or a build from source.
So you ask what do I gain if ROM X has this broken and ROM XX has this broken, well we have gained 2 updates past what HTC wanted us to have along with many more features, all while losing 1080 recording only.
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Its like this man, straight and to the point without being mean. You are not going to find ANY 100% solid ROM that no one has a complaint over. We have 2 ROMS based on Stock OTA Updates that's it. Everything else is a port of this or that or a build from source.
So you ask what do I gain if ROM X has this broken and ROM XX has this broken, well we have gained 2 updates past what HTC wanted us to have along with many more features, all while losing 1080 recording only.
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I understand what your saying, not even the stock roms are perfect either. thanks for explaining though. How about in this way then, what is the most stable and fastest, with the fewest bugs?

Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
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Just be sure and go to my mirror thread here in my signature and flash the Unofficial All Inclusive Patch along with it. It makes ALL the difference.

CM9.1 found in ROM Manager. Sense = bloatware
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CM9.1 found in ROM Manager. Sense = bloatware
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I love Sense. For me, the Sense ROMS like VI or MikXE (the one I'm running now) are far more stable and capable than CM9.

They both have their virtues but I'm like you and do love sense. I'm pretty impartial when it comes to either. I just enjoy being amazed at the capabilites of the developers' works that we all take advantage of and yet often critisize. I know I couldn't do what they do.

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Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
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I had trouble finding the download link for 1.33 alpha 3. Finally found it here at Rootz (traced it from XDA through several pages at VirtuousRom.com and then finally to Rootz).
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Just be sure and go to my mirror thread here in my signature and flash the Unofficial All Inclusive Patch along with it. It makes ALL the difference.
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I assume this "all-inclusive" patch should be flashed AFTER upgrading to 1.35 beta 1?

OH yes. ROM.....OTA...then patch it all.

Need some help from you doubleshot-experienced folk, please!
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Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
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Where can I find this kernel? I'm looking and am not finding it. I'm trying to mimic your "everything works" setup and I think I've gotten what you said to get except for the kernel. I currently have 3.0.17-Don2x-gecb4581 and am experiencing the following two problems which seem to be very possibly kernel-related (otherwise I wouldn't bother):
1) Device randomly reports no signal when it should have a signal (either toggling Airplane Mode or a reboot always fixes this). Clearly, in this state, data, voice, and SMS do not work, which is quite problematic.
2) Battery randomly reports ~half of the capacity that it's really at (rebooting always fixes this). It's kinda strange - charging it overnight will only charge to 49%. But once you reboot it then it's magically at ~95%. (Yes, I've cleared battery stats.) And it seems to be fairly sporadic - doesn't always do this. Like I said, it's strange...
Also, what baseband should I be on? It's currently reporting 11.59.3504.00P_11.16.3504.20_2.
Lastly, for my "Build number", even though I've flashed the 1.35 beta 1 zip and running the OTA update APK, it still reports as "Virtuous Infinity v1.33.0 Alpha3". Is this right? Seems strange to me. Running the OTA Update apk again states that "The ROM developer has not enabled support for the OTA Updater! Please ask them (kindly) to add support before using this app! (otaupdater.otaid value empty or missing)".
If I've done something wrong, all of the above are the indications of such mistakes. Many thanks!

I don't know what happened unless you maybe got a corrupt download. The Mirrors, Tools.... thread in my sign. will give you another DL site. Post #3 Developer #2
That's the same Radio I have except mine is "00U" instead of "00P" . And that is the way the build reads on mine too. I think the Alpha designation tells the tale tho. Just try a full wipe and a reflash of new DL's. This has been one of the smoothest most solid ROMs I've run once it was patched. I HAVE heard of a couple of phones that didn't seem to like the all inclusive patch though. You might try just flashing those patches as a problem arises and you may get better responses from them. Kinda just a guess tho....

When I want fast, and stable, I go with Virtuous Inquisition. That one has the best day to day user experience for me. The only thing I miss with that ROM is the 1080P camcorder, and my stock camera with face detection, and burst shot that works etc.. The Brute Force TV Out add on is definitely not as good as the stock TV out and I miss that when using the Inquisition ROM as well. However, Inquisition is such a nice user experience that I use is often and keep a good nandroid of it. Even the hardware keyboard works the way I want it to include the Alt and CAPs lights.
When I really want to carry that good camera around and have TV out so I can bring Netflix to a friend's house that doesn't have Netflix, I still find myself booting up Bulletproof 1.0 (Before the green invasion). In that ROM I replaced all the pink apps with the "de-pinked" ones (Lockscreen, Contacts, Messages, Calendar etc.), changed the color of the pink message bubbles (ya know the ones that pop up with a number to tell you how many unread texts you have) to blue and I find this ROM to be nice stable user experience with some extra tweaks and extended power menu thanks to the groundwork laid out by RomanBB and then carried on by Blue6IX.
I'm keeping an eye on the MikTouch ROM based on the updated OTA stock ROM. That is a very smooth stock experience and I really appreciate that the developer (developers?) are still giving the Stock ROM some love and I feel it has great potential for those who don't want to lose ANY of the features that made this phone worth buying in the first place. Personally, I feel the hardware keyboard, camera, and TV out were the main reasons I bought this phone and I'm not willing to give those features up and switch to any other ROM full time regardless of how cool they look or how smooth they run.
I think the hard work by all the developers trying to give MT4GS more enhancements and options is amazing stuff and much appeciated, but Bulletproof and Inquisition are still my favorites at the moment. Unfortunately, neither project sees any further development so take it as it is, don't take it at all, or see what you can do to make them better for yourself.
Oh and if you want the ROM with the best battery life, it's the one with a Mugen 3600 battery...just sayin'. I have no complaints about battery life of any ROM with Mugen under the hood.
[UPDATE] MIkTouch is now my favored stock ROM choice.

siani_8 said:
...and if you want the ROM with the best battery life, it's the one with a Mugen 3600 battery...just sayin'. I have no complaints about battery life of any ROM with Mugen under the hood.
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Exactly. The only thing that was stopping me from using the CM7 Alpha was that the SD card wouldn't read.

well in regard to this post. i installed Jelly Bean(Vanilla Bean) rom on to mt4gs last night it has good potentioal but it is lackiing in alot places. i was previously using cyanogenmod9 alpha6 i believe and before i was using virtous 1.33 Alpha 3. however i wanted to know in your professional opinions are there any roms for MT4GS i should try. side note jelly bean is fast but cant use stock android keyboard, so i had to download from market those siine and swift keyboard apps to work also the rom is very twitchy. my mt4gs is with S-On. any opinions are welcome thank you.

One of those is a beta and one an alpha. Great work but not quite complete. There are several really great ROMs out there waiting to be tried. All you hvae to do is make a backup of the one you're on and check a few out. Try a few that are actual releases (you should be able to tell from the title) and see what you like. It's ALWAYS the best way.

Critical_DoubleShot said:
well in regard to this post. i installed Jelly Bean(Vanilla Bean) rom on to mt4gs last night it has good potentioal but it is lackiing in alot places. i was previously using cyanogenmod9 alpha6 i believe and before i was using virtous 1.33 Alpha 3. however i wanted to know in your professional opinions are there any roms for MT4GS i should try. side note jelly bean is fast but cant use stock android keyboard, so i had to download from market those siine and swift keyboard apps to work also the rom is very twitchy. my mt4gs is with S-On. any opinions are welcome thank you.
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Why you don't use this rom:
Leaked ROM 1.63.531.2 / Radio 11.59.3504.00_11.16.3504.20_2: (Full PG59IMG.zip)
form here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254518
To S-Off go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17424340&postcount=24
or you can use this form virtuosrom:
[MT4GS][ROM][21-05-2012][Virtuous Primadonna v1.17.0 Alpha 3] Sense 4A - 4.0.3
Anyway, install Titanium backup and remove what u want; thats all.

lifebound said:
Hi I just bought my MT4GS a couple of days ago, I upgraded from a Mytouch 3g (SuperCSVI 4.0), I also want to modify this phone. Im looking for a rom that is stable, depenable, and fast. The development forms dosn't seem to be makeing much progress with jellybean other than wildchilds VanillaBean. Also I would help alot if it were Sense 4+. Can anybody help?
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Ive been searching for a solid rom since I got my phone in late November. Out of the 6 or so roms I have downloaded the most common problems are.
1) Software keyboard doesnt work.
2) USB File copying either doesnt work, requires a paid app or is very slow.
3) Battery drains faster or wont fully charge.
4) GPS becomes hit or miss
5) Support for promising roms suddenly stop, making you wait for someone else to port another rom which has almost the same sort of problems.
Most of the roms are stable, they are missing some critical things.