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Lately I have seen so many "what rom is best for my first flash" or "Help me decide what rom is best for me" threads and they are POINTLESS! Granted there are an abundance of new and old custom roms, everyone has different experiences and opinions on what rom is best.
So... NOOBS:
If you want to know what rom is best for YOU do the following:
- Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom.
- If you don't know what certain terms in the rom thread mean or affect (ie. kernel, modem, OC/UV, Gps tweaks) locate the search bar in the top right corner of the page or browse through this page
- Once you have decided what rom you want to try out, you need to learn how to flash the rom. Most of the Developers post instructions but they can be confusing to some of the less experienced flashers. nbs11 has posted a thread about how to do this here and Connexion2005 was nice enough to make videos of the general steps: Flashing back to stock using odin3 , 3 Part video series for flashing roms: video 1 , video 2 , video 3
- Now that you know how to choose and flash a rom just try out different roms until you find one that you like and gives you all the features you are looking for.
- If you find the theme of a certain rom ugly or obnoxious, head over to the Captivate themes and apps section and look through different [THEME] threads until you find one that you like. Make sure the theme is compatible with the rom you have just flashed or are planning to flash.
- If you accidentally brick your phone, read How to unbrick the captivate or if that doesn't work, Unbrick the captivate for only $0.99
-Some useful links other members have posted:
One-Click Root - root your captivate in one click!
Build #1010 or above flash back to stock
My hopes of this thread are to save the Captivate general section from becoming a section full of useless threads. So if you are new, please use these steps and do the research to find a Rom that is right for YOU!
Cheers,
Alex
Thanks, + 1 sticky
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I second that sticky request please. Great piece of work!
Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Sure we might expect too much, but I think we should at least give them some guidance to flashing new roms. Since there is so much information out there it can be quite overwhelming to newcomers, which is why I tried to summarize and compile the best information I know of here.
I think your ideas of compiling themes into a one stop shop would be awesome if you kept it updated. I personally would just start a new thread and divide it into the most popular Roms out at the time, and paste links to whichever ones worked for that rom under the heading.
Gave you a 'thanks' and, AMEN!
Stickied, thanks for your contribution
very good useful information
Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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To be honest, I have never flashed cog so I am not sure. But here is what I ALWAYS do, and everything works out for the different roms i have flashed.
1. Backup Apps and App data with TiBackup (not system data!!!)
2. Put phone in download mode
3. Open odin3 on computer
4. Plug phone in to computer, wait for odin to say "added"
5. Press start and wait to see if a blue line starts to apear on the phone
6. If the blue line appears wait for odin to finish, if it does not unplug the phone and hope it has not bricked. See the bottom of the OP if your phone is bricked.
7. Once rebooted, use one click root to root phone
8. Open droid explorer and move the CWM update.zip (see attachment to this post) to your phone as well as the rom you are flashing
9. Boot into recovery and "reinstall packages" usually twice until you get into CWM recovery
10. navigate to install zip from sd > choose zip from sd > (rom zip) > yes
11. once done click go back > reboot phone
12. If it asks you to convert data and partition click the first choice, something like convert all data and files, wait for it to finish
13. enjoi!
*NOTE* this assumes you have the correct drivers installed on your computer and that you have tested to make sure they work. I am not responsible if you follow these instructions and fubar your phone.
Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
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Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
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I am not Canadian and haven't used a Canadian device, so I would not be able to tell you. Sorry.
It is what it is
I'm a bit torn by the thread topic, but I do understand. What lead me to this thread was the realization that I was prohibited from submitting a post on the Android Dev forum. It would have been my first post, as I had been testing and writing down the results of my experiences with flashing ROMs that are currently offered. After doing some reading, I found that a minimum of 9 posts were required before posting priviledges available for the dev forum. A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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Ok so I have to ask, did you even read this thread?
The sole purpose of this thread was to guide new users to flashing new roms, that way they would stop making new threads in the captivate general section asking other users which rom is best.
No where did I mention anything about the development section or new members posting in the wrong section.
If you can't find things with search then try altering your search methods, ie change the "sort results by" drop down box to Relevancy. Often times I just do a google search of "xda (whatever i am looking for)" without the quotes and find what I am looking for in a matter of seconds or minutes.
If you feel like the forum is unorganized, do something about it like I did, don't just sit on your ass. Start a thread with all of the relevant .apk's you think need to be compiled while allowing other users to contribute or don't complain.
I did, but it sounds like many threads I've read in the past over and over again. I could have swore I've read this topic several times here, but perhaps I am mistaken. I follow several forums here at XDA and it is extremely possible my frustrations lie from reading this topic in multiple locations, not just within the Captivate section.
After searching around, I realize that there are not as many threads like this within the Captivate section as I had thought. My apologies for coming off wrong; however,
I do feel like some of the repositories here are disorganized, and have even tried mentioning it, but my thread got absolutely NO response, and it was in what I thought would be the correct section (asking about a list of apks in the Themes and Apps Section). Ah, oh well. Guess my fuse has been a little short recently. I wish I had more free time than just the 15 minutes here and there. I REALLY want to work on sorting the WiKi, but I'm married, so I've ALWAYS got other things to do.
Now that I feel I've completely torn the thread off topic, I'm going back to work
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
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Thanks for the response. Didn't mean to be overly critical of the thread. Simply wanted to express how both sides of the argument can be seen as valid and relevant. I've seen harsh criticisms from seasoned contributors as well as inconsiderate inquiries from new posters that indicate no effort to find an answer prior to posting. No offense intented and thanks for your contribution to the community.
Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Edited title.
As stated by the title, I know we are waiting for the Honeycomb source to be released before any Honeycomb roms are developed for the Gtab. But, and it's a big But!, Now that google has said they are delaying the release of the HC source are we going to see some Honeycomb SDK ports? Or are we going to wait until the true source is released? I don't really mind either way, it's just a question that is on my mind and I'm sure is on the mind of others here.
Your question has been answered before on several closed "honeycomb" threads during the release timeframe of Xoom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=854632&highlight=honeycomb
If you do a search, you will find a lot of info.. In a couple of HC threads, the conversation got very heated between a few members and the dev.. it is why the mods decided to ban "honeycomb" thread. Did the mods say no honeycream thread too?
This thread is one of the HC classic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968409
While I think your question is valid and worth asking (although as indicated above, you probably could have found it by searching), The question I have is 'Did this deserve another thread?'. Clearly you knew posting new HC threads was a bad idea. Why not ask your question in the 'Official' HC thread?
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While I think your question is valid and worth asking (although as indicated above, you probably could have found it by searching), The question I have is 'Did this deserve another thread?'. Clearly you knew posting new HC threads was a bad idea. Why not ask your question in the 'Official' HC thread?
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Most new members are not familiar with the search.. plus, you cannot post a question to the official HC thread. You can send private question though.
I am with Dcon87 that it is also on my mind but I am just not going to ask.. Once a while, the Mod updated the official HC thread with update....
so, just be patience.. everyone!
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Most new members are not familiar with the search.. plus, you cannot post a question to the official HC thread. You can send private question though.
I am with Dcon87 that it is also on my mind but I am just not going to ask.. Once a while, the Mod updated the official HC thread with update....
so, just be patience.. everyone!
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Fair enough. I didn't realize the official thread was locked. Thought you could post to it.
As for any ports of the SDK, I don't think you will see anything on that front.
The SDK was compiled for the emulator (an ARM emulator). Thus, ports are showing up for phones/devices that run an ARM based chip. Being a Tegra device, that compilation won't run on our tablets.
You may see some renewed interest in trying to pull out certain APKs, but even that has the stumbling block of likely being dependent on the new framework and fragments API.
As much as I'd like to see HC in action on this tablet, and as ticked as I am at google for this move, I think we are basically 'stuck'. Without the source, you are basically pissing up rope
IBTL lol
Agree, without the source, it is hard for the dev to cook. I am following the Notion Ink hack forum.. and they basically said the same, the good news is that Notion Ink claimed that they are working on Honeycomb....
Just wondering will Viewsonic/malata send requests to google to get the honeycomb source? As I read it, tablet makers can make requests to access to the source as long as they are using it only on tablets.
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Just wondering will Viewsonic/malata send requests to google to get the honeycomb source? As I read it, tablet makers can make requests to access to the source as long as they are using it only on tablets.
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Considering they just unloaded 10,000 GTabs on Woot and the retail channels are having a fire sale right now, I don't think Viewsonic will be doing anything related to decent software changes.
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Considering they just unloaded 10,000 GTabs on Woot and the retail channels are having a fire sale right now, I don't think Viewsonic will be doing anything related to decent software changes.
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I think you are right. Viewsonic probably won't do anything to it but we may be surprised. I thought last update was the final one.. now, they are releasing another one with the lockscreen. who knows.. Back to Dec last year, the VP of Product marketing of Viewsonic answered some questions in this forum, and I "wish" he is back with some answers on the future of the gtab.. probably in my dream.. =P
MOD EDIT: No need for this. See my post below
Roebeet is a great dev. He is surely missed here. But these kind of additional posts/threads dont help him out.
And just to be devil's advocate, I think the NI devs are the real owners of the HC rom that works on the harmony devices. Any developer currently here at XDA could create a custom port of that for the gTab. In fact you can even flash the NI version flat out and it works. So, its not the end of the world if Roebeet doesnt directly give us his HoneyCremes.
To his credit, his actions alone though of successfully porting the NI HC ROM do open the door to future development on a different BL which previously was thought to be off limits. The same BL happens to be apparently shared across devices, which means more potential for sharing drivers>kernels>ROMs...etc. For that reason I do thank him.
Well, since this is a hacking community, it would imply that everyone here supports open info. The actions of the moderators (i.e. giving infraction for asking a question) are anything but open info environment.
Posting things like this does not help the situation for anyone. Robeet chose to move his work to another forum. This matter is closed.
Please do not post any other threads like this. And do not post links to the other site.
So, I suppose you -- like me -- opened this thread to find out how to take your brand new (or new to you) GT+wifi and take the power back from Samsung by rooting and installing custom firmware! Well... Here's the deal: this forum is a complete mess. The small number of guides are either difficult to follow or incompatible with one another. Links for downloads are mostly dead and everything is completely out of date. If you're like me this drives you crazy...
The best forums in XDA have become so because of a few people. Most importantly, of course, are the developers; without them this place wouldn't have a reason to exist. But almost as important as the developers are a small number of users who take up the task of helping other users by writing guides and instruction manuals, and answering questions. This is what the GT+ forum lacks.
So here's what I'm proposing to do. I'd like to create a wiki post that I'll update with guides and working links. I'll keep it up-to-date so that a newbie can open the thread, look at the TOP of the first post, and get their tablet working within a few hours. It will make the entire experience more satisfying both both users and developers. But I can't do it without your help: I don't know jack about this tab (just got it last week). So post your info below and I'll update soon.
Good one buddy. But I don't agree with you on the mess part. There is no much cfw because samsung does not want to release some code. So we have "only" optimized and cleaner versions of stock rom, and a heroically port of cm9 but without wifi.
And if you try to put a lot of links and information on first post, good luck. Noobs dont like to read, you will get 95% of posts of people asking how to root or other thing that someone answered 1 post above.
The idea of make mirrors of links is very welcome.
EDIT: This will be very helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Enviado de meu MB525 usando o Tapatalk 2
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So, I suppose you -- like me -- opened this thread to find out how to take your brand new (or new to you) GT+wifi and take the power back from Samsung by rooting and installing custom firmware! Well... Here's the deal: this forum is a complete mess. The small number of guides are either difficult to follow or incompatible with one another. Links for downloads are mostly dead and everything is completely out of date. If you're like me this drives you crazy...
The best forums in XDA have become so because of a few people. Most importantly, of course, are the developers; without them this place wouldn't have a reason to exist. But almost as important as the developers are a small number of users who take up the task of helping other users by writing guides and instruction manuals, and answering questions. This is what the GT+ forum lacks.
So here's what I'm proposing to do. I'd like to create a wiki post that I'll update with guides and working links. I'll keep it up-to-date so that a newbie can open the thread, look at the TOP of the first post, and get their tablet working within a few hours. It will make the entire experience more satisfying both both users and developers. But I can't do it without your help: I don't know jack about this tab (just got it last week). So post your info below and I'll update soon.
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I suggest that someone instead creates an index with all the roms most important info, links etc. like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
I'd be able to do it, but a little help would be appreciated
I've been overjoyed with my Galaxy Tab 7.7 ever since I've had it but since there aren't going to be any further Android updates after 4.0.4 I've started to notice the odd app isn't going to work so I'm assuming that I'm going to need to look at rooting in order to get the latest apps to work??
I've only dabbled with rooting a couple of times with my very old HTC Desire due to it's ridiculously small internal memory and so I really don't know where to start with the 7.7!
Can someone give me some pointers on which ROM to look at and ideally a half-wit's guide to show me how to do it?
You could start by reading the information already available.
Given your tablet is untouched all of the old information is accurate for you. The forum has sticky posts top make finding info easy, yet you managed to miss them.
We're not here to do your research for you.
Start with the first post here and then read the information provided. Some of the images are missing in some of the posts now but the instructions are still there.
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You could start by reading the information already available.
Given your tablet is untouched all of the old information is accurate for you. The forum has sticky posts top make finding info easy, yet you managed to miss them.
We're not here to do your research for you.
Start with the first post here and then read the information provided. Some of the images are missing in some of the posts now but the instructions are still there.
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Thanks for the condescending reply.
I had looked at a few of the dozen or so sticky's but wasn't quite sure where to start or what applied to my particular situation, hence the post asking for some pointers.
It would appear I was mistaken that this was a forum (ie. people posting questions, information and general musings) so I honestly didn't think I'd offend anyone by asking for a shortcut! (my most sincere apologies as it appears that I've really touched a nerve!)
I'll find what I need myself, thanks for the gentle shove! :laugh:
Try this custom L rom buddy. It seems to be fairly stable for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-7-7/development/rom-p680016mar2015omnirom-5-1-t3056171
Update on future
I wonder if there will be update in to 6.0
It is really not that hard to peek in Developers forum for our device - [ROM][MMB29T][GalaxyTab7.7|Plus][22Jan2016 CM-13.0]Android Marshmallow ROMs. You are welcome.