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So I've tried reading through some of the introduction threads, but there's so many jargon terms thrown out casually that I have no idea what half the posts are talking about.
I just "exchanged" my old AT&T Tilt for the AT&T Fuze, and I'm loving it. However, I want to update my ROM to windows mobile 6.5, and get into customizing it a bit. I know the first part is the hardest, because you run the risk of bricking the phone.
Since I have no experience doing this, could someone help walk me through the process?
I know I most likely want a 'cooked' ROM, and I've read the tutorial a few times, I'm just not sure I'm understanding it correctly due to some of the terminology. I'm also not entirely sure what ROM I want yet, and was hoping someone might be able to point me towards one that fits my needs.
Again, sorry if I'm asking when I just just be leaping. Will someone please hold my hand and give me some chocolate milk and talk me through changing the ROM? >.<
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
well if you had clicked his link you would realize that post is exactly what you were asking for.
also. No one can pick out a ROM for you. Browse through them and test a few out. it only takes a few moments to flash a new ROM to your phone.
What terminology are you having trouble with? if you search for it in the wiki or in the post that was linked above then you will undoubtedly find an explanation.
A good site for general overview, if you can handle the writing style, is blown fuze. I gained a lot of info reading this, even though I don't have a Fuze yet (but would like to get one).
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Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
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take the time to click the link and it will provide you all the instructions needed. Everything is explained in full detail even providing the program you need to flash a new rom, so you should really really click before you complain.
trust me, that link on flashing your first gsm rom is as complete as you get, unless you want big pretty pictures or a video.
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take the time to click the link and it will provide you all the instructions needed. Everything is explained in full detail even providing the program you need to flash a new rom, so you should really really click before you complain.
trust me, that link on flashing your first gsm rom is as complete as you get, unless you want big pretty pictures or a video.
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TO THE OP
Having looked at all the stickies first rom flashing looks easier on this than on my old wizard. I found the sim unlocking,cid and super cid unlocking at first but I read everything twice and it worked okay for me
And if it doesnt then there are plenty of people here who can help
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Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
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Perhaps flashing is not in your future.
theoneeye said:
TO THE OP
Having looked at all the stickies first rom flashing looks easier on this than on my old wizard. I found the sim unlocking,cid and super cid unlocking at first but I read everything twice and it worked okay for me
And if it doesnt then there are plenty of people here who can help
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Thank you for actually reading my post, I greatly appreciate it.
To everyone else, I DID click the link, and read it several times before even posting. If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed I referenced it several times. I took the time to read before posting, you could at least have the civil decency to do the same.
@ Theoneeye, thank you for the assurance, I tracked down someone who was able to answer some ROM questions for me and help me find a good starting ROM and assist me with the process to make sure I don't brick my phone on my first go at it.
Normally I just try things like this, and if it fails, try again until it works. However, since I read up on this first (even though everyone here seems to think I didn't) I know I run the risk of bricking my phone. Since I've gone through several exchanges already to get this phone for free (long story) I don't wanna be swapping another phone so soon.
To those who still bother to read posts, any input you can provide on your ROM choices, or the other half of my post regarding some things I should look into installing, I would appreciate it.
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
wow. I'm surprised. If you actually read through the link several times and you still did not get it, you were skimming it or you really really do not have a strong grasp on the english language.
Hell, it's even numbered. How much easier would you prefer. If you want suggestions for ROM choices, it is entirely up to you. Every rom has their own unique "style" that they offer and they describe it all in the first post. Energy, NATF, etc all explain their roms in great details and some even provide extra steps.
My blunt suggestion here is that before you tell others to **** off for referring you to where everyone else has use as reference and successfully performed a flash, you should save your rudeness for yourself. Also, if you have any questions on terminology, ask which jargon is throwing you a wrench in your direction following process. That would make it much easier to explain.
P.S: seriously read through that damn sticky, it is as clear as a swarovski crystal. Follow it step by step and don't "do your thing" and you'll have a successful flash.
btw. way to be a jackass to those who have already given you the answers you asked for.
EDIT: TLDR version. Be polite, and follow the directions to the letter. and ROMs are your personal choice since they're all unique and they come in full explanations as to their purpose.
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Thank you for actually reading my post, I greatly appreciate it.
To everyone else, I DID click the link, and read it several times before even posting. If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed I referenced it several times. I took the time to read before posting, you could at least have the civil decency to do the same.
@ Theoneeye, thank you for the assurance, I tracked down someone who was able to answer some ROM questions for me and help me find a good starting ROM and assist me with the process to make sure I don't brick my phone on my first go at it.
Normally I just try things like this, and if it fails, try again until it works. However, since I read up on this first (even though everyone here seems to think I didn't) I know I run the risk of bricking my phone. Since I've gone through several exchanges already to get this phone for free (long story) I don't wanna be swapping another phone so soon.
To those who still bother to read posts, any input you can provide on your ROM choices, or the other half of my post regarding some things I should look into installing, I would appreciate it.
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
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I see your arrogance is getting you far
Just getting into this meself and so far it looks like...
- sort out the hardSPL update first to let you do the ROM and other upgrades...
- once it says 1.90.OliNex on the bootloader fetch the new ROM
- reading around and going by most references the Energy 6.5 ROM seems to be worth a shot, think that's what I'll be installing on my TP
- while you're at it search for aerial upgrades and put a newer version on at the same time to sort out GPS and phone performance.
Just make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, don't run anything else on the PC while updates are being done and check, check and triple check the ROMS to make sure they're correct before doing anything
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Just getting into this meself and so far it looks like...
- sort out the hardSPL update first to let you do the ROM and other upgrades...
- once it says 1.90.OliNex on the bootloader fetch the new ROM
- reading around and going by most references the Energy 6.5 ROM seems to be worth a shot, think that's what I'll be installing on my TP
- while you're at it search for aerial upgrades and put a newer version on at the same time to sort out GPS and phone performance.
Just make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, don't run anything else on the PC while updates are being done and check, check and triple check the ROMS to make sure they're correct before doing anything
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Thank you!
It's helpful knowing there's some decent people on these forums who are willing to help out. I was able to get the few basic questions I had regarding installation and some pointers to help me find a ROM that fits my needs. Since then I've done a few flashes and all have gone off without a hitch.
To those of you who continue to think I'm being rude, you seem to fail to realize the ignorance and blatant 'ass hattery' in repeatedly referring someone to read something they already read without providing any additional information. It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all.
Speaking of "It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all."
If you want help here this is NOT the way to get it.
This is a community of great minds and mutual respect, not somewhere for someone to start making demands and throwing out general negativity.
No one here thinks you continue to be rude, THEY CAN READ IT FOR THEMSELVES.
Everyone here is willing to help, but you need to help yourself first. You're off to a really great start....
Dracius said:
Thank you!
It's helpful knowing there's some decent people on these forums who are willing to help out.
To those of you who continue to think I'm being rude, you seem to fail to realize the ignorance and blatant 'ass hattery' in repeatedly referring someone to read something they already read without providing any additional information. It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all.
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Dracius said:
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
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Sorry Dracius, i'm with the majority of people here who think you're rude and havent understood the idea of this site - its a community developement site, not a one-stop download & personal tech support center.
The instructions in the flashing guide are exactly what you need to start you off in the world of flashing roms. It has a "before you start" backup part - with a link to free backup software.
It then goes on to explain exactly and in detail how to flash (GSM) hard spl - including a link and instructions to ensure you have a GSM phone. It also tells you to ensure you dont have any other programs running / screen saver etc which might throw a spanner in the works.
Following that, it says - if you want to - how to sim & security unlock the phone, including the required link.
Next it details how to flash a rom, including a very helpful line
1. Download your prefered Rom from the Raphael Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your computer
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Your prefered rom - remember this is a guide on how to flash - not what to flash. To decide that, read the details in the rom forum, read other users feedback - and then when it doesnt help, do what everyone else does and try half a dozen to see what it is you want your phone to be like.
Finally, the guide tells you how to flash a different radio - and again says this is optional. It then links to a radio thread which explains what the radio does and why you might want to flash it.
If you have a problem with any part of the process (or pretty much anything related to your phone) then (after searching & reading) make a post explaining what your problem is - and what you have done to help yourself (say exactly which threads you have read, and why they dont help you / what you dont understand) - people will generally help.
This isnt what you did.
Oh, welcome to the community.
Well at least he got a welcome
theoneeye said:
Well at least he got a welcome
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No, not really. His attitude is NOT welcome here.
Bruce Inman said:
No, not really. His attitude is NOT welcome here.
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I know mate I was only kidding
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I know mate I was only kidding
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I know Bro, that's why I welcomed you on your other thread....
Bruce Inman said:
I know Bro, that's why I welcomed you on your other thread....
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I saw that thanks
I am not new here but I am new to the Raphael section
(I had a Blackberry Storm for a year sorry )
As a new Android user who is very familiar with the command line and with Linux/Unix environments, I still feel extremely overwhelmed with the amount of 'fixes' and 'root' hacks going around.
I've played with linux for 100's of hours and have broken the install and fixed it...
But this is a phone that bricks, not a computer. I don't like playing "oh I'll just try this and see what happens" with my $400 phone.
Plus I honestly can't determine which one is best for me.
I started this thread so that someone could assist me in creating a guide for what you want to do and what is best to do it.
For example, I want to upgrade to Froyo when it releases.
In the mean time I want to install a lag-fix/ custom rom.
mymansionisabox said:
As a new Android user who is very familiar with the command line and with Linux/Unix environments, I still feel extremely overwhelmed with the amount of 'fixes' and 'root' hacks going around.
I've played with linux for 100's of hours and have broken the install and fixed it...
But this is a phone that bricks, not a computer. I don't like playing "oh I'll just try this and see what happens" with my $400 phone.
Plus I honestly can't determine which one is best for me.
I started this thread so that someone could assist me in creating a guide for what you want to do and what is best to do it.
For example, I want to upgrade to Froyo when it releases.
In the mean time I want to install a lag-fix/ custom rom.
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Do people not know how to read stickies? there are guides and how-to's in this section alone. There are more in the development section. If you don't know how to search a forum, I'm not entirely sure you should be messing with your phone's firmware.
Kaik541 said:
Do people not know how to read stickies? there are guides and how-to's in this section alone. There are more in the development section. If you don't know how to search a forum, I'm not entirely sure you should be messing with your phone's firmware.
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I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
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I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
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I think you're in a wrong forum if you want someone to give you any kind of "distilled", spoon-fed info just because you're afraid to mess with your "$400" phone.
Again, to second the other reply, all the info is posted. Just RTFW/S.
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I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
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there are tons of guides and they're all condensed. I have to agree with the other poster, if you aren't going to take the time to read and learn what you're doing, don't do it. each sticky offering to help you through all of these processes are there for a reason.
There's the "Pimp My Captivate" thread which is exactly what you say you want. And there have been comparisons of each lagfix by Zilch25, clockwork recovery by Koush is clearly explained in his thread, each ROM is discussed in their own thread.
Ironically, you're asking for a sticky so as to have less stickies. Finding out which ROM you want to use is up to you and if you're not going to take the time to figure out what each tool offers or what each base ROM means, then maybe flashing your phone is something you should steer clear of for now.
If you're afraid of bricking it, just do a Nandroid backup. If something goes wrong, then you can just flash back and it'll be A-OK. If you seriously brick your phone and it's 100% messed up, it's probably because you tried to mess it up.
Hydrocharged said:
If you're afraid of bricking it, just do a Nandroid backup. If something goes wrong, then you can just flash back and it'll be A-OK. If you seriously brick your phone and it's 100% messed up, it's probably because you tried to mess it up.
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Even guys that intentionally tried to brick their phone can't do it. I don't have much to say as it already has. Just take the time to read. There is a condensed version of what you can do to your phone, the pimp my captivate. Otherwise there are many different ways of rooting, lax fixes, firmwares to flash etc...so there is not one thing that you can do that will make your decision easier.
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Even guys that intentionally tried to brick their phone can't do it. I don't have much to say as it already has. Just take the time to read. There is a condensed version of what you can do to your phone, the pimp my captivate. Otherwise there are many different ways of rooting, lax fixes, firmwares to flash etc...so there is not one thing that you can do that will make your decision easier.
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don't say that. there have been several confirmed bricks from i9000's using the i897 one-click downloader. While there is no immediate, known, for-certain brick method for your phones... you never know who or what may be the first... always read as much as you can in the threads before you attempt to do anything
As someone who was new to the Captivate scene, but not XDA, just two weeks ago the best advice I can give you is start with the "Pimp my Captivate" PDF file. Read through that and then move forward to other stuff like flashing new firmware and using odin. Trust me you will catch on. I am no move on to working on friends phones for them without any worry of breaking (bricking) them.
Just read, read, read, and sometime read some more. If you have a question about a certain hack, fix, firmware...ect then just ask that question in that thread. Trust me there will be very useful helpful people to answer your questions.
I did what is probably the easiest method. I used unleash the beast and then one click lag fix. That's it and my phone is amazing now. I plan on sitting tight until froyo comes out and whatever the top rom happens to be.
I do appreciate everyone's answers.
Despite that, I really don't understand this particular forum's aversion of being more organized and concise. (imo)
I don't think any of you who told me to read actually understood my intentions of making this post since,although I didn't state it, I have already flashed mods to my Captivate and I have modded my previous phones.
I'm new to XDA so maybe this site is far more trustworthy than where I've been.
I'll check it out and read at least the last 10 pages of each thing that I install.
Thanks though.
Mod please close this thread.
mymansionisabox said:
I do appreciate everyone's answers.
Despite that, I really don't understand this particular forum's aversion of being more organized and concise. (imo)
I don't think any of you who told me to read actually understood my intentions of making this post since,although I didn't state it, I have already flashed mods to my Captivate and I have modded my previous phones.
I'm new to XDA so maybe this site is far more trustworthy than where I've been.
I'll check it out and read at least the last 10 pages of each thing that I install.
Thanks though.
Mod please close this thread.
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we have nothing against being "organized," I just believe your definition of organization is far too complex. You want all the ROMs compared side by side, followed by the tools, and the rooting methods, and the lagfixes and to know which is "best."
Each thing is kept separate from the other because there would be an absolute and definite overload of information in each thread. Look at SRE (a fine example of how to do it properly), he details the result for the end-user and then provides links to where each part of what he did came from. The development section provides a thread on reverting to stock and just that because it should focus on that, rooting can be left for a thread on rooting. SRE shouldn't be tossed into a thread with UTB because they provide different effects.
If you were to compile everything into one big mega-thread, questions would never be answered because there would be far too much crossover. The Pimp My Captivate thread is as good as it gets in that regard, they provide optimizations and suggestions and where to find more information, which is good enough.
I understand.
After this post I am done though, because I'm getting no where with this.
Check out the web page below, this is really what I meant. I can't post links so just close the gap between http:// and ga..
http:// gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/17/osx-netbook-compatib.html
I belong to several forums that had been attempting to put mac osx on netbooks and on one of them a chart of compatibility was compiled, which is similar to what I was suggesting we needed.
Ignore the comments below the chart; that would be unnecessary.
All I was proposing to do was have a locked/stickied thread that only a moderator could change up as new changes/improvements occurred.
Each root/lagfix/rom would have a href connected to their actual thread.
So there would be no need to have comments/ questions asked on that particular page. ****.. it could just be a damn wiki page, but I digress..
If no one thinks that would be beneficial to the community, that is fine.
I don't care, I can easily figure it out myself.
Mod, please close thread.
So, I suppose you -- like me -- opened this thread to find out how to take your brand new (or new to you) GT+wifi and take the power back from Samsung by rooting and installing custom firmware! Well... Here's the deal: this forum is a complete mess. The small number of guides are either difficult to follow or incompatible with one another. Links for downloads are mostly dead and everything is completely out of date. If you're like me this drives you crazy...
The best forums in XDA have become so because of a few people. Most importantly, of course, are the developers; without them this place wouldn't have a reason to exist. But almost as important as the developers are a small number of users who take up the task of helping other users by writing guides and instruction manuals, and answering questions. This is what the GT+ forum lacks.
So here's what I'm proposing to do. I'd like to create a wiki post that I'll update with guides and working links. I'll keep it up-to-date so that a newbie can open the thread, look at the TOP of the first post, and get their tablet working within a few hours. It will make the entire experience more satisfying both both users and developers. But I can't do it without your help: I don't know jack about this tab (just got it last week). So post your info below and I'll update soon.
Good one buddy. But I don't agree with you on the mess part. There is no much cfw because samsung does not want to release some code. So we have "only" optimized and cleaner versions of stock rom, and a heroically port of cm9 but without wifi.
And if you try to put a lot of links and information on first post, good luck. Noobs dont like to read, you will get 95% of posts of people asking how to root or other thing that someone answered 1 post above.
The idea of make mirrors of links is very welcome.
EDIT: This will be very helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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So, I suppose you -- like me -- opened this thread to find out how to take your brand new (or new to you) GT+wifi and take the power back from Samsung by rooting and installing custom firmware! Well... Here's the deal: this forum is a complete mess. The small number of guides are either difficult to follow or incompatible with one another. Links for downloads are mostly dead and everything is completely out of date. If you're like me this drives you crazy...
The best forums in XDA have become so because of a few people. Most importantly, of course, are the developers; without them this place wouldn't have a reason to exist. But almost as important as the developers are a small number of users who take up the task of helping other users by writing guides and instruction manuals, and answering questions. This is what the GT+ forum lacks.
So here's what I'm proposing to do. I'd like to create a wiki post that I'll update with guides and working links. I'll keep it up-to-date so that a newbie can open the thread, look at the TOP of the first post, and get their tablet working within a few hours. It will make the entire experience more satisfying both both users and developers. But I can't do it without your help: I don't know jack about this tab (just got it last week). So post your info below and I'll update soon.
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I suggest that someone instead creates an index with all the roms most important info, links etc. like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
I'd be able to do it, but a little help would be appreciated
OK, i searched, I researched and found so much conflicting information. Some posts in red caps say THIS IS EXPIRED NOW BECAUSE OF UPDATE..
I want to put a custom ROM on my ATT One - X. I'm brand new to this, but fairly computer savy. So, with out getting flamed, could someone PLEASE direct me to the appropriate link that will effectively with out too many headaches, lead me to be able to root my phone, and then install a custom rom?
Thx!
Check the dev section
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Depends on what software version your on if it's 2.20 then no you can not root your phone at this time. If it's any other version besides 2,.20 then yes check this thread.
[INDEX] AT&T/ROGERS One X Resources Compilation Roll-Up (Updated 9/17/12)
If your stuck with 2.20 then you can follow the progess for root here
Root 2.20 Think Tank
Depends on what software version your phone is running. For US AT&T phones, if you're running 1.73 or 1.85 then it's rootable. If you're on 2.20, then you're out of luck at the moment. Good luck.
Also - mind the "PLEASE DON'T POST QUESTIONS IN THE GENERAL FORUM" thread. We've got a Q&A sub forum here for that.
Cheers,
-V
I know your pain of all the conflicting and outdated stickies and guides. It took me several hours to try the different methods that might work. I ended up lucking out and getting one with 1.85, and used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
One thing to add is that when you hit the check for updates button, let it sit. It will look like its doing nothing, but hitting it again will start the download. Took my 4 factory resets and several tries, but it finally worked. Then you SuperCID, unlock Boot loader, install TWRP. Those guides were easier and once rooted they all work, its just the rooting that's tricky.
And as mentioned this all goes out the window if it arrives on 2.20.
Good luck.
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quarlow said:
I know your pain of all the conflicting and outdated stickies and guides. It took me several hours to try the different methods that might work. I ended up lucking out and getting one with 1.85
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Pray tell, which stickies are outdated???
My index thread here is updated at least weekly (sometimes more often, if there is a lot of dev activity). And the date it was last updated is clearly indicated in the thread title.
This index thread clearly lists the working root methods; and what firmware the method applies to is clearly stated, either in the thread title, or I've made a note to indicate it.
You asked ...
redpoint73 said:
Pray tell, which stickies are outdated???
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673110
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673111
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 (for the reasons below)
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This index thread clearly lists the working root methods; and what firmware the method applies to is clearly stated, either in the thread title, or I've made a note to indicate it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709424
As stated in the first line of the thread this method no longer works, but I wouldn't know that until I went to the thread. "ACT NOW" Why is this still in the guide as a viable option? Why isn't it noted that this no longer works?
Note to add to guide: This method no longer works and is only in the guide for reference purposes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633071
Bootloader must be unlocked first. How do you unlock the bootloader? Root. Wait, what? Round and round we go. Why not note this method only works for phones with the BL already unlocked?
Note to add to guide: This method only works for non-AT&T branded phones that can have the Bootloader unlocked. BL must be unlocked before rooting, see thread for details.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684382
None of those methods worked when I tried them.
Note to add to guide: Reports of this method not working for phones shipped on 1.85.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
Only method that worked with my phone. I am not used to ADB, so I tried EVERY other method several times first. And as I stated, this guide could use some additional steps to help avoid some scary situation where you are in the middle of downloading the udate you fear and have no idea how to stop it. Hint: Reboot doesn't work, you must factory reset again to stop the download.
This is why it took me almost 4 hours to root my device.
The guide could flow something like this:
Do you have an AT&T branded version?
- No --> Unlock the BL [here], and root [here] or [here]
- Yes --> proceed
What firmware are you on?
- 2.20 --> STOP you cannot root
- 1.85 --> Try the ONE method the works [here] (for reference [this] method used to work)
- 1.73 --> Try one of these methods [here][here][etc]
The rest of the sticky is fine. But everything hinges on rooting your device, and it is so confusing to try to figure that out for a new user to the phone. I appreciate the guides that do exist, that is why I don't complain in the guides, just try to assist the other people new to the device by explaining my experiences just last week. I imagine the only way to test the method is to get a brand new phone, and try it. Something that is not reasonable. But, just by reading the OP and the last page of each thread I could make the above observations that would help the guide.
Not trying to be dis-respectful at all, but you asked what was outdated. It is very confusing for a new person to this phone without all the history of the last 6 months.
I wonder which is clogging up the forum more. People who "aren't searching properly" or the ones who reapeatedly post over and over again complaining about it. Jeez..
redpoint73 said:
Pray tell, which stickies are outdated???
My index thread here is updated at least weekly (sometimes more often, if there is a lot of dev activity). And the date it was last updated is clearly indicated in the thread title.
This index thread clearly lists the working root methods; and what firmware the method applies to is clearly stated, either in the thread title, or I've made a note to indicate it.
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quarlow said:
You asked ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673110
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673111
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Seriously? Those are warnings not to post questions in those forums. There aren't meant to be up to date root guides!
quarlow said:
Not trying to be dis-respectful at all, but you asked what was outdated.
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I'll agree that my index can use some updates as you suggest (although some of your comments are a bit too nitpicky for my taste). But you're talking about a few lines of a rather extensive index. To dismiss it all as "outdated" is an insult to many hours I've taken to create and continually maintain the thread. Your tone may not be disrespectful, but it certainly sounds ungrateful.
If you had issues with the index, you should have replied on that thread with your suggestions or PMed me when you found the updated items, just like I ask in the intro to the index. Complaining about it in another thread is the wrong way to have gone about it.
With respect to you, and not realizing it is your thread, I can understand you being frustrated with all the work you put in to it. So, I'm reply basically to say thanks for the work that you do.
redpoint73 said:
Seriously? Those are warnings not to post questions in those forums. There aren't meant to be up to date root guides!
I'll agree that my index can use some updates as you suggest (although some of your comments are a bit too nitpicky for my taste). But you're talking about a few lines of a rather extensive index. To dismiss it all as "outdated" is an insult to many hours I've taken to create and maintain the thread. Your tone may not be disrespectful, but it certainly sounds ungrateful.
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jeffreyjames said:
I wonder which is clogging up the forum more. People who "aren't searching properly" or the ones who reapeatedly post over and over again complaining about it. Jeez..
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I've spent a lot of time and effort to create and maintain the index thread for people to use. Its a sticky at the top of Development, no searching is required, and it lists most any resource you will need for this phone. Tons have people have gotten themselves into serious trouble soft or hard bricking their phones, or otherwise wasting a lot of time, when they could just used the index, and avoided all that.
I'm sorry I'm "clogging up the forum" with my index. With post like this, I sometimes wonder why I fricking bother.
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jeffreyjames said:
With respect to you, and not realizing it is your thread, I can understand you being frustrated with all the work you put in to it. So, I'm reply basically to say thanks for the work that you do.
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I think we were typing are responses at the same time. Thanks for the retraction. I was pretty pissed off by your earlier comment!
My apologies... I got frustrated because I've read so many people complaining about using search lately, that it seems more prevalent than the people not using search. I tried to delete the post after I wrote it, but since I'm new I had to wait 5 minutes. I replied after that post saying thanks for your work. Again, please accept my apologies and my gratitude for doing what you do.
redpoint73 said:
I've spent a lot of time and effort to create and maintain the index thread for people to use. Its a sticky at the top of Development, no searching is required, and it lists most any resource you will need for this phone. Tons have people have gotten themselves into serious trouble soft or hard bricking their phones, or otherwise wasting a lot of time, when they could just used the index, and avoided all that.
I'm sorry I'm "clogging up the forum" with my index. With post like this, I sometimes wonder why I fricking bother.
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jeffreyjames said:
My apologies... I got frustrated because I've read so many people complaining about using search lately, that it seems more prevalent than the people not using search. I tried to delete the post after I wrote it, but since I'm new I had to wait 5 minutes. I replied after that post saying thanks for your work. Again, please accept my apologies and my gratitude for doing what you do.
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Heh, were are getting good at cross posting with each other! See the second part of post #11 above (posted the same exact minute as your post!). I saw your post above (#10), thanks for the subsequent retraction/apology.
redpoint73 said:
Seriously? Those are warnings not to post questions in those forums. There aren't meant to be up to date root guides!
I'll agree that my index can use some updates as you suggest (although some of your comments are a bit too nitpicky for my taste). But you're talking about a few lines of a rather extensive index. To dismiss it all as "outdated" is an insult to many hours I've taken to create and continually maintain the thread. Your tone may not be disrespectful, but it certainly sounds ungrateful.
If you had issues with the index, you should have replied on that thread with your suggestions or PMed me when you found the updated items, just like I ask in the intro to the index. Complaining about it in another thread is the wrong way to have gone about it.
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Both of those stickies link to root methods that do not work. They are in the General and Q&A sections, and are titled for N00Bs to start there. As a N00b to this device that is where I started. That is the only sticky in the Q&A section, and my first question was "How do I root this phone?" In the Samsung forums these types of guides are in the General section.
As I said I do not mean to be ungreatful or disrespectful. That is why I did not complain it's outdated in the thread. Something that is taboo on XDA. Lowly members are flamed for challenging RCs, Devs, or Mods. I understand you put a lot of time into that thread. I can imagine the countless hours you put into compiling it. I think that rooting the phone is the most important part of that guide because nothing else in the guide is possible without root, and as such it should be accurate and clear. It's also the most confusing part of the guide, and the One X forum in general. I do appreciate the time and effort you put into your guide, and if I thought suggestions on the thread would be have been received peacefully I would have commented there, I apologize for bringing my issues up in a way that offended you. The Samsung forums have a total different feel and unwritten procedure, I am still getting used to the One X forum.
quarlow said:
As I said I do not mean to be ungreatful or disrespectful. That is why I did not complain it's outdated in the thread. Something that is taboo on XDA. Lowly members are flamed for challenging RCs, Devs, or Mods. I understand you put a lot of time into that thread. I can imagine the countless hours you put into compiling it. I think that rooting the phone is the most important part of that guide because nothing else in the guide is possible without root, and as such it should be accurate and clear. It's also the most confusing part of the guide, and the One X forum in general. I do appreciate the time and effort you put into your guide, and if I thought suggestions on the thread would be have been received peacefully I would have commented there, I apologize for bringing my issues up in a way that offended you. The Samsung forums have a total different feel and unwritten procedure, I am still getting used to the One X forum.
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I've been around here for 5 years, over the course of 5 devices, and I've never seen anyone flamed for suggesting to correct/revise a guide. Asking for ETA on a ROM update is the closest I've seen to what you are saying (usually not a good idea). But people who have written guides, indexes, etc. are typically very open to comments on how to improve their thread and keep it up to date. They made the thread to help people, and want nothing more than to have it do so effectively. If they don't update it, its usually because they don't have the time.
Also keep in mind that my index is meant to be a listing of resources, not a guide, per se. I've tried to add some additional info in the index to help folks along. But I can't claim to be an expert on every link (or anything close to an expert). For instance, when it come to root, I rooted way back on 1.73. So I've never even tried any subsequent root methods. Therefore I can't personally validate them, I can only try to comment on what I've read others post.
Not being a developer, the index is the one thing I give back to this community (along with random posts trying to help others). I'm completely open to suggestions to make the index better, and more up to date. I've already incorporated the suggestions you made earlier.
Cheers.
I believe a relative attempted to install via oden, A Verizon based module on this phone using odin. I am so unlearned about the android os that I do not know the terminology even to use here. Not complaints but just info, I am now victim to two arsons and thus homeless and rebuilding and so little time this is first chance I have had to post about this in some time.
I am not very adept at finding articles here so would appreciate any help any can provide.
I wish to and will learn all there is to know about Android some time in future and will master most of it except programing.
For now any help with any post or articles or what have you would be appreciated as well as any live help should someone so care to provide
You are welcome to PM or email me as well. [email protected].
If I am allowed to post this, I would consider paid help as well. If not allowed to post any part of this or if in wrong area, please help me correct my actions.
Thank you all in advance.
Gh / Charlie
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Gladhatter said:
I believe a relative attempted to install via oden, A Verizon based module on this phone using odin. I am so unlearned about the android os that I do not know the terminology even to use here. Not complaints but just info, I am now victim to two arsons and thus homeless and rebuilding and so little time this is first chance I have had to post about this in some time.
I am not very adept at finding articles here so would appreciate any help any can provide.
I wish to and will learn all there is to know about Android some time in future and will master most of it except programing.
For now any help with any post or articles or what have you would be appreciated as well as any live help should someone so care to provide
You are welcome to PM or email me as well. [email protected].
If I am allowed to post this, I would consider paid help as well. If not allowed to post any part of this or if in wrong area, please help me correct my actions.
Thank you all in advance.
Gh / Charlie
GH
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Hi,
Here is a thread on returning your device to stock with Odin, http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
And as far as wanting to learn about Android and the things found on XDA, my only advice is to read read read. There is a lot of info out there, just search on terms or procedures you are curious about and read through the search results.
For your device, you can start with this thread to learn more about it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/guide-to-note-4-wip-t2939288
You can ask questions there as well!
Good luck!
Ty, Darth. Sorry for my noobness. I cannot seem to locate in the reccomended thereds, any thing about USCelluar phones or any link to any Rom, Kernal or what ever it is called. I do now know odin was improperly used and possibly a verizon upload was made to the phone and then on panic odin was ran and all possible options tried like flash tlock partition and any other options except pit.
I have not a clue where to start to fix it. I have been reading but if I seen any possible solutions, I missed them. Can someone please point me to some factory iriginal files for the USC NOTE 4 and some knowledge of how to use them? If some other files would work, where verizon or what have you, glad to try that to. The phone in question has never been on line or assigned any phone number since new. Not sure that matters. I do not mind messing it up further or experimenting to learn or help devs if any needed.
Thanks
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I suggest then asking about your device here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/noob-friendly-question-t2866810
But I will tell you... Reading and research is a part of this hobby. Without doing a lot of that, people end up with big problems usually.
Here is the main note 4 section, I recommend reading through some of the sticky threads in the general and Q&A sections. Those are the threads at the top with a thumb tack symbol beside them. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4
After you've read up and know a little more, then I'd worry about roms and whatnot. And any further questions can be asked in the first thread I linked in this post.
Good luck again!
I am confident in only big solutions. I thank you for your kindness and patience. I am only sorry that I do not know a rom from a kernal or a brick for now. I regret, I am not smart enough as well to follow the links so well or derive from then when I can. I do have unbreakable tenacity however and never lose a war due to it. The outcome for me is obvious but the time frame not so nice to me as I will not have time to read much for some months and now seek a quuick fix for a quick fix of feeling human again, for now. Any advise for a direct link to some adb and fast boot drivers? Seems this may be the sutipn and not odin for now. Seems I need to get what ever the file is called into the phone or files to recover to as mine goes to recovery every time but then losds the bum files it has stired. Would be nice to know how to idenify the files but all in good time.
You will need to ask in the threads provided. Xda Assist is here to help navigate the site, not for support.
If you have no time to read, and want things done quick, then I suggest to you that your heading down a risky path... And your device could suffer.
Also, XDA is a place to learn and share... Without doing your part here, meaning reading, you will have trouble getting people to help.
Thanks, and thread closed.