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You MUST have an IPL and SPL at 2.xx or higher (BOTH not just one or the other).
The Phone NEEDS to be CID unlocked or it will not flash correcly
Well I have been keeping my Faria Base Rom to my self uptill now. But I have run out of ideas what I can do to it.
Well I have made my version that is is simple but has some very usful apps.
I would like to have 3-5 People test out for me and tell me what can be changed, if it is ok like I am thinking of maybe putting it out there for people to play with. But it all depends on the poeple that test it.
So my ROM is for someone that would like a FAST and stable rom that has just what is needed.
Rom version; 2.18.0.0
Build aku 15341 aku.4.0.0.01 WWE
Radio version recommended 2.19
Splash screen Funman v.1
31Mb Free Ram on boot
43Mb Free File space
Whats in the Rom :-
Apps (Program)
Total Commander 2.5PB2
dotFred TaskManager 2.7
Screen Capture
Pocket RAR 3.60
NotePad
Gotan (Like Bubble Breaker, but alittle longer)
Adobe Reader LE v.2.0
Windows Live Messager
Windows Live v.10.6.0026.1400
Live Search v.1.0.2592.31374 (Linked with Google setup, not Mircosoft)
Apps (Settings)
Check Notifications v.1.9
PIM Backup v.1.9.0.0
SMS Notifier v.1.2
SynchroTime v.0.94
HTC X-Button
Other
Comm manger 10 button is installed
Startclean
Bluetooth in Start Menu
Office folder taken from Start Menu to Programs
Added a default SMS MP3
Default Set to UK settings
Reg Hacks
Moved IE cashe to SD card
Scroll bars are thinner
System Sounds are turned off by defalut
Power Batt set to 5mins
Power External set to 5mins
Backlight set to 2nd lowest, batt 5mins turnoff, External 5mins turnoff
Cleartype on both port and lang
Text size to 2nd lowest
Taken out of the ROM
All Themes
All Wav, MP3, and any other useless media files (for Ringer, just place a mp3 in My Documents on your phone or in your card). Please note that you will see the 3 default, but these do not work
MMS items (Will be doing two ways, one with, one without) I don't have these in by default as when I sync I get them all.
Old Keyboard and replaced with mUn Keyboard Skin
Old PhonePad and replaced
SAP
SIMManger
Autoupdate
VoIP
Voicecommand
Transcriber
Java manager
With this Rom you should not have any problems with speed, It runs fast and when using BS it will run faster, but not really used it so dont know if your phone will smoke!!
Download link
Will come soon
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Closed for now!!! Need to look at something! Dont know when I will have the time to look at again!
Tester please complete below:-
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Apps found useful
Apps no use for
Volunteer
I volunteer... gladly... my basic requirements are working outlook and windows live... and windows media player... i don't need mms... lemme know if this suits your rom
Hey Funman!
Good job [email protected]@
Like to try it out during my transition to the new one build!
I'm ok and in the position....
Let me know if I can testify for ya!
Take care!
Hey funman your rom looks great.
I can test for you. Let me know.
Bye.
Rom looks Great... Def willing to test this puppy!!
Hey your roms looks great to me.
So I volunteer...
Downloading now will report back!!!
Thanks
suggestions
I have got 31mb free ram on boot.
It is quite fast.
Suggestion
What to ADD:
New office2k7
New HTCtask manager 1.5
Audio manager
Java manager
New Sim manager
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application)
What to remove:
Customer Feedback
Error repoting
(I think these two are the most unuseful thing.)
Thanks, and there is no extended rom, and if you plan one then move it windows folder for G4 support.
samy.3660 said:
I have got 31mb free ram on boot.
It is quite fast.
Suggestion
What to ADD:
New office2k7
New HTCtask manager 1.5
Audio manager
Java manager
New Sim manager
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application)
What to remove:
Customer Feedback
Error repoting
(I think these two are the most unuseful thing.)
Thanks, and there is no extended rom, and if you plan one then move it windows folder for G4 support.
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Java manager (Left out as my Rom is made for the person that like min but useful, and this is not useful!!!)
New Sim manager (Took out as pointless, as with pimbackup on the phone, you dont need to save your contacts tot he SIMcard)
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application) I left it ou as it is not need!!! But you do have the button mapping, but i would not use it for boasting the CPU
New office2k7 Thought about this, and i did put itin there, but took it out again as the new one does not give much yet, as 2007 is not so widly used for the lose of rom space!!!
New HTCtask manager 1.5 Well did not know of this update, so i guess i could add it Do you know what is better?
Well I did not add the extended rom for that reason!!! So maybe will have to put the MMS stuff back in to the ROM
I think its bricked...
It finished flashing... went off... n now it wont start back up again....
Removed the battery and put it back in... its come on now... whew!! it sure gave me a scare at that point...
love the splash screens....
here we go with the set up...
Customising now... will update one its done...
its fast for sure...
Lotsa stuff i dont need... t zones... tmobile customisation...
CPU usage stays low between 1 - 3%. Will update battery drain once it settles...
One can get rid of error reporting and autoupdate... both are useless tools for a custom ROM
Have always had a problem with memory leak and suspect its because of tmail.exe... i use a lot of mail... outlook, windows live and sms put together would easily be more than 200 a day... this seems to be leaking as well... am already down to 25mb within an hour but that culd be because its updating my outlook mail... havent set up windows live yet...
more updates will follow in the morning... my wife's gonna lock the room door from inside anytime now...:-/
rajivshastri said:
Lotsa stuff i dont need... t zones... tmobile customisation...
CPU usage stays low between 1 - 3%. Will update battery drain once it settles...
One can get rid of error reporting and autoupdate... both are useless tools for a custom ROM
Have always had a problem with memory leak and suspect its because of tmail.exe... i use a lot of mail... outlook, windows live and sms put together would easily be more than 200 a day... this seems to be leaking as well... am already down to 25mb within an hour but that culd be because its updating my outlook mail... havent set up windows live yet...
more updates will follow in the morning... my wife's gonna lock the room door from inside anytime now...:-/
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Ya the t-mobile stuff is just for this!!! If it gets lt out it will not have this!!! And t-zones is not in the rom!
Runs Great, But Phone Ringers Are Corrupted On My End Which Is No Biggy Man. T-Zones Dont Need To Be In There Cuz For Some Reason It No Longer Works Anymore. Might be the reason because T-Mobile Upgraded There New T-Zones For HTC Wing But Im Not Sure Just Know That When you Check Your Account It Wont let you. Another One you Should Add Musicplayer Today For Alittle Bonus And Add The new HTC Taskmanager Like Everyone Is Suggesting. Just So it Could Look Like A Stocked T-mobile Phone. I Love The Splash Screens. Really Fast But There Is A Battery Drain I Noticed But Might Be Because I have to let the battery drain first cuz I flashed. It Is At 50% And I dont have no push email, GPRS, Internet,Wifi, Or Bluetooth Running. I Would Hate To see when I Use Them It would Of Probably Already Been Dead! I Also havent Installed Any Program Either Everything Is Still Stocked. Also Recommend You Put Some Sort Of Battery Task On The Today Screen Like HTC HomePlug So You Can Check your Battery Life. But Pretty Much After That Runs Great Keep up The Good Job. I Will Still Monitor The Battery Situation More!
First view
Hey Funman!
Here it goes to my results...
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
I liked the way you cooked!.
Clean, simple and fast.
It really is and I still didn't have to overclock! Nice!
Got 43.40 of storage and 30.02 of program memory. Ok for me.
Good Customizations like text reduced and folders
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Customer feedback and Error reporting could be really removed as it really means nothing.
Phone settings seems to be not working properly. When I tried to change ring tone and clicked OK button, I got nothing. I still kept on that settings tab instead of back to today screen. I tried several times without luck. But I think is just a little thing coz you may get away from that just clicking on today icon and choose today itself.
Noticed duplicated task manager: programs\accessories\settings and in start\settings\system folder.
Apps found useful
Oxios
Windows Live and Search
Adobe Reader LE
Apps no use for
Check notifications.
SMS notifier. I like others like secretary mobile but it can be fine.
Total commander. I prefer Resco Explorer
Registry Editor. I prefer use Resco 2007 built in version
In an overall and as my first impression, I loved it! You did a very custom ROM without a lot of craps and just cooking basic and usefull apps. Good job.
I'll keep going little more now installing my apps. Let you know what happened after that!
Great day Funman!
Regards
funman said:
Java manager (Left out as my Rom is made for the person that like min but useful, and this is not useful!!!)
New Sim manager (Took out as pointless, as with pimbackup on the phone, you dont need to save your contacts tot he SIMcard)
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application) I left it ou as it is not need!!! But you do have the button mapping, but i would not use it for boasting the CPU
New office2k7 Thought about this, and i did put itin there, but took it out again as the new one does not give much yet, as 2007 is not so widly used for the lose of rom space!!!
New HTCtask manager 1.5 Well did not know of this update, so i guess i could add it Do you know what is better?
Well I did not add the extended rom for that reason!!! So maybe will have to put the MMS stuff back in to the ROM
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OK
But Java manager is useful as sim manager, not at the time but may be required in future coz there will be programs that will require java and same for Sim manager. But this is your choice, im just trying to make your rom perfect and complete.
And for new X button go here
im using it and it is very good no bugs.
And office2k7 is also essential coz there are new format (for eg: docx) which will run on new word only.
And yes there are two shortcut of taskmanager(dotfred), one is in programs/accessories/settings and other in settings/system.
Thanks
LiQuiD FrEeZe said:
Runs Great, But Phone Ringers Are Corrupted On My End Which Is No Biggy Man. T-Zones Dont Need To Be In There Cuz For Some Reason It No Longer Works Anymore. Might be the reason because T-Mobile Upgraded There New T-Zones For HTC Wing But Im Not Sure Just Know That When you Check Your Account It Wont let you. Another One you Should Add Musicplayer Today For Alittle Bonus And Add The new HTC Taskmanager Like Everyone Is Suggesting. Just So it Could Look Like A Stocked T-mobile Phone. I Love The Splash Screens. Really Fast But There Is A Battery Drain I Noticed But Might Be Because I have to let the battery drain first cuz I flashed. It Is At 50% And I dont have no push email, GPRS, Internet,Wifi, Or Bluetooth Running. I Would Hate To see when I Use Them It would Of Probably Already Been Dead! I Also havent Installed Any Program Either Everything Is Still Stocked. Also Recommend You Put Some Sort Of Battery Task On The Today Screen Like HTC HomePlug So You Can Check your Battery Life. But Pretty Much After That Runs Great Keep up The Good Job. I Will Still Monitor The Battery Situation More!
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Where you heck are you seeing t-zones? IT is not in the rom!!! I have this running on my phone right now!!!
-No T-Zones,
-No Ring tones as I said above (just place a ring tone on your card in my documnets)
-Do you have a extended rom installed, as this is your problem with the batt drain!
I think i need to pull the rom and look at a coup-le of things, cus you should not be seeing t-zones for one thing! And i might move the extention to windows folder then you dont have the batt drain problem!
p.s Task manger is there two times out of design!
update: Ok I see why you had the problems with the ring tone!!! Cus you have not put a MP3 in your my documnet folder!!! The OS has put the default ones in but there are not in the rom!!! It must be a reg key or some thing I will look into getting rid! Well i looked at the ringtoens and i think the 3 defaults must be hard coded as i have not been able to find any reg keys that go with them.
epimazzo said:
Hey Funman!
Here it goes to my results...
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
I liked the way you cooked!.
Clean, simple and fast.
It really is and I still didn't have to overclock! Nice!
Got 43.40 of storage and 30.02 of program memory. Ok for me.
Good Customizations like text reduced and folders
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Customer feedback and Error reporting could be really removed as it really means nothing.
Phone settings seems to be not working properly. When I tried to change ring tone and clicked OK button, I got nothing. I still kept on that settings tab instead of back to today screen. I tried several times without luck. But I think is just a little thing coz you may get away from that just clicking on today icon and choose today itself.
Noticed duplicated task manager: programs\accessories\settings and in start\settings\system folder.
Apps found useful
Oxios
Windows Live and Search
Adobe Reader LE
Apps no use for
Check notifications.
SMS notifier. I like others like secretary mobile but it can be fine.
Total commander. I prefer Resco Explorer
Registry Editor. I prefer use Resco 2007 built in version
In an overall and as my first impression, I loved it! You did a very custom ROM without a lot of craps and just cooking basic and usefull apps. Good job.
I'll keep going little more now installing my apps. Let you know what happened after that!
Great day Funman!
Regards
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Oxios ? Ok i cant remeber what this is?
Please can you give me screen shots of T-zones then i can see where you are seeing it!
Okay last night i flashed my Wizard.
This weekend we have Whitsunday festival overhere.
So give me sometime to test your rom.
I will post my findings tommorrow.
Update: 04/22/08
This is a release for the ROM and the porting kitchen. It does not port XIP's, yet, just SYS folders, but it does what it needs to do. I haven't tested it in more than just one port, though. The one I did test came out perfect, though.
The ROM has 63.XXmb FREE storage and 31.XXmb free with SD RAM.
To flash it you MUST have a HardSPL'ed Herald or Wing and a microSD card. Just place the HERAIMG.nbh into the SD card's root directory. Do NOT rename it to anything else. Then hold the camera button down while you turn on the device and then press the volume down slider when it asks you to. Wait until it says it's done. I haven't tried to run any activesync other than to an exchange server so tell me if that isn't working.
I'll be done with finals this week and then I can finally work on the other kitchen.
I'll upload it when I come back from school.
Update #2: 04/14/08
Just added a screenshot. Mind you, this is WITH SD card AND after I installed my "troubleshooting" tools.
Update: 04/14/08
60mb of FREE storage space.
32mb RAM with no SD
30MB RAM with SD
No compression (I'll probably released a UPX'd version, as well...)
Fixed all bugs found so far except for two. Maybe you guys can help me figure them out... the sad part, I've fixed these same two bugs countless times in my other ROMs, but I just can't remember how I did it. lol
1. Comm Manager: It doesn't matter what comm manager I place in there, it still boots up the built in comm manager. (The one that Tmobile has anyways.)
2. The Vibrate button. I have all the files and I have it setup so that it vibrates when you hold down the comm button, BUT it keeps trying to open VoiceCMD even though I deleted all visible entries for it...
Update: 04/03/08
Ok guys. Here's some info on my current projects.
1. Just2Clean is almost done. I just have to fix some bugs. The OEM is from an unreleased Wing ROM, the SYS I ported over using... well keep reading.
2. My phone currently is running currently has 62.38mb total of storage... and I was able to shrink the extrom and use that ROM space for storage. Granted, you need to have HardSPL and a memory card for this to work, but it's awesome. This ROM is also so small and stripped that it's the fastest ROM I've ever used and I don't even have any tweaks on it, yet.
3. Kitchen 1: PPCBuildOS: Unfortunately, I haven't had time to work on porting it, but after I get Just2Clean fixed, I'll be working on it. AWESOME kitchen. The creator is so willing to help, too. Made me a developer of the Atlas section (Herald compatible so no worries for those Herald users.)
4. EasyPortKitchen. So far, I've got it porting SYS folders just fine. I haven't been able to setup XIP porting, but that's because I still don't understand the process behind it. If someone wants to explain it to me, I'll be able to finish this kitchen. So far, Just2Clean had its SYS folder ported in this way.
EDIT: 5: I plan to release the ROM with language packs for the kitchen. Then you can just check on the language you want the ROM to be in while building the ROM.
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Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.
Just2Clean will be a WM6.1 stripped down better than JustClean was, more modulized and with its OEM based on an unreleased ROM.
I'll keep you guys posted but I'm not sure of how much I can talk about now that I'm helping develop the Atlas/Herald side of it...
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A few things that I've been thinking about on my "off" time... basically, the time that I'm just unbusy enough to have my own personal thoughts outside of work or school related ones. lol
All these ROMs would be compatible with my kitchen.
1. SuperClean - A ROM built with lots of compression and minimal programs. The point of this is to be the "bigstorage rom" where you can't even flash it normally because it doesn't meet the size requirements of the RUU/SPL.
2. JustClean2 - Based on an unreleased OEM from an unreleased ROM that I made before I switched to WM6.1. It's based on a Wing ROM... but it has potentials. It just feels faster and it seems to take less space than the current Herald base I'm using. Not to mention that some people are having issues with Herald based ROMs and some bluetooth enabled items.
3. OldClean/NewClean - SuperClean and JustClean2 may have both WM6.0 and WM6.1 versions... I find that, although WM6.0 is slower, it also takes up less space (and therefore can net more storage space) and some people don't seem to like a lot of the WM6.1 features.
What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...
Maybe now there are new builts.
OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha
ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.
I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs
lol
Good to see ur back to cooking roms
Well i Love the functions of WM6.1 so just about and clean 6.1 rom you cook will be great
so i'd guess from ur descriptions that'd be SuperClean...
Edit: I also use the Office suit a lot but i can add that by a cab, since i know most clean roms dont have it since it takes quite a bit of space
papamopps said:
I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...
Maybe now there are new builts.
OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha
ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.
I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs
lol
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These ROMs are meant to be used with my kitchen. That way they can add what they want and what they want only. Some people just don't use any programs and want the available storage space for other reasons. (Like photos.)
The SuperClean would attempt to create a lot more free space in the ROM. (For example, I have 54.93mb total (I've got a few files saved so I'm not sure how much I had free at first) currently in the ROM I'm currently using and it's no where near optimized and it's one of my fattest unreleased "SuperClean" ROM's that I have ever made.
Imagine being able to get 60mb free WITH all the apps that you use. It would be awesome.
Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins
I vote for just a 6.1 Rom w/ good tweaks (and ready to go for tmo usa) and no extra programs.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
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Yes I have, and no issues at all.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
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I did, but there were some serious issues (I can't remember which though). I had reporeted them in CleanROM thread for sure.
BTW, when are you going release final of your oven? I need to fix several small issues in my custom ROM, but I'm too lazy to do so with current version
GiZZy said:
Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins
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And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
papamopps said:
And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
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I took a look and found out the kaiser guys have 5.2.19716. How do I extract the OS from their roms? I gotta have that build!
Must... Cook... Rom...
papamopps said:
And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
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I'm currently learning how to port properly for that specific reason. 19202.1.0.0.
As far as the skinning goes, the final should have the option to have no skin. I'll work on that. The base should have a few things disabled. I'm also working on that. As far as RAM goes, I've gotten up to 38mb free before, but it was missing a lot of items... I could always just modulize the whole ROM and let people choose EVERYTHING down to if they want bluetooth support or not. This can net some pretty nice amounts of free memory. It's just more work for me.
I am also thinking of modulizing the MUI's in the ROM, effectively allowing people to just download language packs. Doubleclick on the file, wait until it does its thing and then you have a French ROM, or a German ROM, or whatever...
It's not that I can't do it, it's that it takes time.... time I don't have.
ivanmmj said:
What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.
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It seems to me that the 6.1 ROM is a bit faster when doing some things (like opening the windows folder using total commander) is involved - but I think the 6.0 can be tweaked to be just as fast? I would be very excited to try either your SuperClean or JustClean2 as long as the ROM is based on Wing.
I used your CleanROM for quite a while with NO problems but on a Wing.
Update on the first post.
ivanmmj said:
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Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.
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yay new kitchen!
wow, can't wait to try the superclean (superfast???) rom
Let us script kiddies get our toys!
Updates on the first page!
So it will come with the same kitchen like JustClean?
62 megs...sounds cool. I hope it will be possible to stuff the rom with office etc. and flash it as usual.
Not with the same kitchen. With a new GUI kitchen that the guys at PPCkitchen.org have made for other phones. I'm just helping them port it to the Herald/Atlas.
The EasyPortKitchen is something you would use to port a ROM.
You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.
You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.
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That's the best of your releases. Just a clean package so everyone can add what he needs, noone has to have stuff on their phone that they don't like. It's simply a Good Thing (tm).
has anyone managed to get epocrates installed and working on a WM 6.5 rom?
or is there someway to resize Thomson's Clinical Xpert for VGA screens?
I've recently flashed the stock ATT fuze rom to one of Da_G's WM 6.5 roms. It's fast, stable, and has great battery life (currently sitting on my desk after 26 hrs+ w/ maybe 10% remaining, which is a tremendous improvement from the <12 hrs i was getting). Everything is fine and dandy, but the most important software for me does not work.
Epocrates installs but does not perform the initial autoupdate. it simply stalls at the update screen. I've tried both the wireless installation and desktop installation and both do not work. Speaking to their tech support, I've found that WM 6.5 is currently unsupported. Anyone get this working on a WM 6.5 rom?
In the meantime, i've installed Thomson's Clinical Xpert, but it's interface was probably designed for QVGA screens so the drop-down menus are not navigable on my VGA device. how can i go about resizing the application for a VGA screen (either through modification of the CAB file or if there is any application that can alter the resolution/stretch it)?
thanks.
workaround in this post below
Having the exact same issue- any help will definitely be appreciated. I love the new 6.5 interface and would prefer not to go back to 6.1 unless absolutely necessary
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
wctom said:
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
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Same here. However, I did revert back to 6.1, still no luck on installing Epocrates. Even disabled the Microsoft encryption setting. Still no go.
what wm6.5 build is everyone using? i've so far only tried it on Da_G's 21198.
i'm really surprised that epocrates won't install on wm6.5 as i don't think very much has changed in the architecture from 6.1. the issue w/ epocrates is that it installs, but hangs during the initial autoupdate. the actual application is installed and can be opened briefly (i can see the the on top etc.), but the data itself is not there b/c it cannot be synced. when trying to install via the windows desktop installer, the autoupdate progress bar pops up and the download starts, but quits with an error about the autoupdater conduit.
if the conduit can be fixed/tweaked perhaps epocrates will work? has anyone tried moving files from a working 6.1 installation to an aborted install on wm6.5? i'd try to do it, but right now i don't have the time to rebuild my wm6.5 setup, which is also why i haven't flashed to one of the newer 6.5 builds.
for the time being i'm using Thomson Clinical Xpert, but its UI makes the application barely usable on my Fuze.
vexingv said:
what wm6.5 build is everyone using? i've so far only tried it on Da_G's 21198.
i'm really surprised that epocrates won't install on wm6.5 as i don't think very much has changed in the architecture from 6.1. the issue w/ epocrates is that it installs, but hangs during the initial autoupdate. the actual application is installed and can be opened briefly (i can see the the on top etc.), but the data itself is not there b/c it cannot be synced. when trying to install via the windows desktop installer, the autoupdate progress bar pops up and the download starts, but quits with an error about the autoupdater conduit.
That describes exactly my experience. I am using the FuFuROM based on 21202 on my HTC Diamond.
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Same here. no epocrates and UpToDate in WM6.5
wctom said:
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
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It's same with me. I reverted to 6.1 bcos of epocrates and UpToDate. epocrates wont install as e'one here said. UpToDate installs and runs but cant display the final pages. It seems to use the IE and the pages are stored inside .jar files. somehow it cant go inside the .jar files to display the html files. It says the pages are not available.
I hope these issues will be solved soon.
BTW, I'm using TESS Premium 4.3 by Aman in my Elf.
Same
Wow same here, that's incredibly irritating
i finally had some free time to tinker this weekend and i've got epocrates running on wm 6.5!
following my previous hypothesis, i flashed to an old 6.1 rom and installed epocrates and performed an update. then i copied the "essentials" folder from "Program Files" to my sd card. i then flashed to wm 6.5 (da_g's 21501 beta 4 kitchen) and installed epocrates. as usual, it could not perform the initial autoupdate. instead, i closed the update application, deleted the existing Essentials folder, and copied the Essentials folder from my sd card that was from the intial 6.1 installation to Program Files. epocrates now works! i didn't bother with any of the add-on components/programs as i mainly need access to Rx, Sx, Dx, and labs tabs. of course, you likely will not be able to update epocrates from wm 6.5 as the crux of the problem is the autoupdater module.
Post perhaps?
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
anyone has idea about UpToDate thing in WM6.5. Eventhough there is a workaround for Epocrates, I'm still stuck with 6.1 cos of UpToDate. Any input/suggestions wud be highly appreciated.
EDIT: I found about UpToDate in this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499741 but u hav to cook into ur own rom... too bad ..
KHTar said:
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
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i have an archive of the folder and i'd upload it, but i think it contains personal information. just flash 6.1 the next time you get around to flashing an upgraded 6.5 rom.
KHTar said:
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
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+1 for me too... I too would prefer not having to reflash again.
My Essentials folder won't be the same as yours. It will have my preferred insurance plans, for one thing.
Clearly, this hack allows ePocrates to run. However, it doesn't address the lack of updating, which is really one of the important features of ePocrates.
Since ePocrates is the primary reason I carry a smartphone device instead of a plain phone, I'll be sticking with a 6.1 ROM for now.
epocrates and active sync
I was wondering if anyone using the work around has been able to use active sync to sync with their computer. Does it break if epocrates tries to auto-update that way through the active sync? Is there a way to turn off the epocrates auto-updater so you can active sync?
I was able to use the work around without flashing my ROM. If you still have an old phone, you can have epocrates with Windows Mobile 6.1 on THAT phone, move the essentials to the storage card. Then install epocrates on your 6.5 device with the storage card in, and it works perfectly fine for me.
But now I'm afraid to sync my phone with my computer. I NEED epocrates to function at work. I want to be able to sync as that's one of the main benefits of a windows mobile phone, but keeping epocrates has to be priority one for me.
BTW, I checked with epocrates support, and they said they intend to support 6.5; they just don't know when.
Working now!
its now working officially with wm 6.5
greets,
A couple of days ago I installed the epocrates Rx on my brand new HTC HD2 (windows mobile 6.5) thru the standard installation procedure, and thought everything was running ok, until today that I just realized it doesn't support scrolling (I have to open the keyboard and use the arrow keys -extremely cumbersome!).
Then I searched on the Epocrates site for support and found this:
Question
Does Epocrates support Windows Mobile 6.5?
Answer
Epocrates does indeed support Windows Mobile 6.5.
While installation through a computer should be in essence the same as installing to a Windows Mobile 6.1 and older device, installing directly to a wireless Windows Mobile 6.5 device is a bit different.
Open Internet Explorer on your Windows Mobile 6.5 handheld and navigate to the following web address.
http://get.epocrates.com/?action=all
Please note that "www." is not part of the above web address.
Select the "Install Now" button for "Windows Mobile 5 and later."
Please take note of where Internet Explorer prompts use to save the Epocrates installer file (Main Memory or Expansion card). It is called:
OTAUpgraderSigned.exe
Open File Explorer on your handheld and navigate to My Device, My Documents. You should see the "OTAUpgraderSigned.exe" file there. Tap on it to begin the install process.
Should you encounter difficulties, please contact Epocrates support.
Don't know if anyone already tried the above, if so, please give some feedback. Does it work?
Anyway, I'll probably give it a try later in the day. Let's see what happens.
I have tried as Lovanova tells in his messagge but it still does not work scrolling in my HTC HD2.
Sorry to tell that this way described by epocrates support doesnt work in HD2.
hmm, you re right.
Scrolling does not work on HD2.
Damn!
They could at least update their product flag ship as so little that it doesnt look like MS-Dos-crap ... they ve got good looking apps on the iphone with nice fingerscrolling ...
its so ridicilous
Version 2: Changelog:
4MB pagepool - almost 33mb of free RAM
Based off of JustStableV2's Build 5 (unreleased) - Everything updated in JustStableV2 Build 4 also in this build
Based off of 5.2.21048
More of the ULDR partition removed. Now it's COMPLETELY gone.
Still LZX compressed and stripped on non-essentials
Also included: IS versions. (Internet Sharing)
This is a version of JustStable with the following changes:
1. Stripped of ALL non-essential programs. (Including NetCF.)
2. LZX compressed
3. ULDR removed!!! A first for the Herald. This saves around 3MB that is normally used as storage for “windows updates” which are never released. lol
All in all you get:
74+mb FREE of Storage Space!
29-30MB FREE of RAM WITH a 6mb pagepool
Due to the removal of the ULDR, the pagepool CANNOT be changed. (Although, I haven’t tried using the old way of changing the pagepool…)
Get the newest version here. (Click on the JustROMs link.)
Warning: This HAS to be flashed through an SD card.
Let me be the first to say Thank you so much Ivan. This is the micro ROM I've been waiting for. I can't even describe this ROM in words yet. It's an extremely fast installation because it's so clean. With the latest ioLite Manila2D installed, it still runs 22MB of free RAM. This is the best you'll get I assure you with the Herald if you are into the Manila2D thing like myself.
Question: Have you tried using 4MB Pagepool with your JustStable, Ivan? How well did it run? Will the Herald get more free RAM if so?
Micro ROM
Ivan this is super. I love this micro rom. Wow its super fast. Thanks!
I love it cuz I can put on just what I want. How the Hell did you get soooo much Memory? Awesome!
unknown123456 said:
Let me be the first to say Thank you so much Ivan. This is the micro ROM I've been waiting for. I can't even describe this ROM in words yet. It's an extremely fast installation because it's so clean. With the latest ioLite Manila2D installed, it still runs 22MB of free RAM. This is the best you'll get I assure you with the Herald if you are into the Manila2D thing like myself.
Question: Have you tried using 4MB Pagepool with your JustStable, Ivan? How well did it run? Will the Herald get more free RAM if so?
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Yes. I ran fine. I chose 6mb to cover myself from people running huge programs.
Just use a pagepool changer on the NBH file and you can set it to 4mb before you flash it.
zcink said:
Ivan this is super. I love this micro rom. Wow its super fast. Thanks!
I love it cuz I can put on just what I want. How the Hell did you get soooo much Memory? Awesome!
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lol. Secret sauce.
i love how u didnt say anything abought it then when i went for the lzf version this morning theres this teany tiny file saying micro made my day i just flashed it saw the storage and had to say bravo i love surprises and this right up there with finding the cop handcuffin you is realy a girl your friends got u on your birthday(sry its the only good surprise that i could think of in a hurry) well off to check out what 75mb can handle
ivanmmj said:
Yes. I ran fine. I chose 6mb to cover myself from people running huge programs.
Just use a pagepool changer on the NBH file and you can set it to 4mb before you flash it.
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Yeah, I tried using a PagePool Changer but it didn't work. It's grey out and you mentioned it on your post prior to my download and attempt to changing it. That is why I'm requesting a 4MB PagePool if possible. But even at 6MB, it's has incredible amount of free RAM for the herald with the latest Manila2D that is a resource hog compared to older versions like in Tran's OTP.
unknown123456 said:
Yeah, I tried using a PagePool Changer but it didn't work. It's grey out and you mentioned it on your post prior to my download and attempt to changing it. That is why I'm requesting a 4MB PagePool if possible. But even at 6MB, it's has incredible amount of free RAM for the herald with the latest Manila2D that is a resource hog compared to older versions like in Tran's OTP.
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Manila2D has always been a memory hog.
Are you using the newest version of pagepool changer? The first time I did it, it didn't work, the second time, with a different version, it worked.
Thanks Ivan. I downloaded the newer version of PagePool Changer from Sept 08 and it worked. With just Manila2D installed, it's at 26MB! A clean install with JustStable at 4MB PagePool gives 31MB of free RAM. This is the most free storage/ram anybody has ever created for this phone. You are a true asset to this forum and HTC/Micosoft should be paying you if they keep selling the Herald/Wing .
unknown123456 said:
Thanks Ivan. I downloaded the newer version of PagePool Changer from Sept 08 and it worked. With just Manila2D installed, it's at 26MB! A clean install with JustStable at 4MB PagePool gives 31MB of free RAM. This is the most free storage/ram anybody has ever created for this phone. You are a true asset to this forum and HTC/Micosoft should be paying you if they keep selling the Herald/Wing .
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Haha, thanks. Yea, I plan to release a similar version of WM6.5.
4 mb Pagepool
yes thats what I'm talkin about. Awesome even more so.
Love love love love this micro rom and I can't wait for the micro 6.5. I can't get mms or the tmo oz im to work tho... anyone else have this issue or have a suggestion for me?
kristopherson said:
Love love love love this micro rom and I can't wait for the micro 6.5. I can't get mms or the tmo oz im to work tho... anyone else have this issue or have a suggestion for me?
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Did you install Arcsoft and a connection wizard (or write the settings in by hand)?
ivanmmj said:
Did you install Arcsoft and a connection wizard (or write the settings in by hand)?
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yes i did. everything else works really really well. except the " ; " key for some reason. mms and sms im'ing are huge for me. i average 10,000 text a month. without a data plan i like oz because it works with my unlimited msging plan
using arcsoft mms 5.0.31.7
Is there a list anywhere that tells the difference between the "full" version and the "micro" version? I know the Micro is JUST what comes with WM6.1, but since I don't know what that is, I'm not sure what's been added for the full version. I guess I could get both and write down a list myself of the differences, but since I'm lazy I figured I'd ask first to see if this had been done anywhere.
Hey Ivan LOVE this ROM... damn you are amazing man mad props to you.
Just one problem... I don't know if it's just me but some programs won't open. I don't get an error or anything. The little busy icon appears then quickly disappears then... nothing. I can't open Advanced Config or Ing Change Font...
I reinstalled Advanced Config and reseted and turned off the phone but... still nothing... Any reason why it wouldn't be working?
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Oh haha nevermind I needed to install .net compact framework.
lennyjaxn said:
Is there a list anywhere that tells the difference between the "full" version and the "micro" version? I know the Micro is JUST what comes with WM6.1, but since I don't know what that is, I'm not sure what's been added for the full version. I guess I could get both and write down a list myself of the differences, but since I'm lazy I figured I'd ask first to see if this had been done anywhere.
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The Micro doesn't have a lot of things.
Amongst them:
QuickMenu
wktasks
.NetCF
The Canvas Dialer
The modified taskbar icons
Mortscript (for the wing versions that use the multibrowser button)
OperaMini
The newer version of IE (which takes more space)
The extended Explorer
The Rhodium Notification Enhancements
The HTC calculator
HTC Home
The keyboard skin
MyCPL
The new Volume Control system
The deactivated Rhodium Menu Enhancement (it's there to keep the notification enhancement working due to dependencies but it itself isn't working.)
The outlook enhancements
GoogleMaps
RandomAccess (the contacts quick alphabetical bar)
more modified icons around the system
Yet more modified icons around the system
Touch Responce (the force feedback)
I think that's all.
And the Payload has been modified to remove the ULDR (update partition which isn't used anyways.)
buru898 said:
Hey Ivan LOVE this ROM... damn you are amazing man mad props to you.
Just one problem... I don't know if it's just me but some programs won't open. I don't get an error or anything. The little busy icon appears then quickly disappears then... nothing. I can't open Advanced Config or Ing Change Font...
I reinstalled Advanced Config and reseted and turned off the phone but... still nothing... Any reason why it wouldn't be working?
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Oh haha nevermind I needed to install .net compact framework.
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hehe, This gets asks every time I release a stripped ROM. Yep, no .NetCF.
kristopherson said:
yes i did. everything else works really really well. except the " ; " key for some reason. mms and sms im'ing are huge for me. i average 10,000 text a month. without a data plan i like oz because it works with my unlimited msging plan
using arcsoft mms 5.0.31.7
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The ; key should be working if you're using the correct version on your phone (if you have a herald, you're using the herald, if wing, the wing version.)
Is anyone else having this problem?
The MMS and SMS, is anyone else having this problem?
ivanmmj said:
The ; key should be working if you're using the correct version on your phone (if you have a herald, you're using the herald, if wing, the wing version.)
Is anyone else having this problem?
The MMS and SMS, is anyone else having this problem?
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I'm using the wing version for a wing.
like i said, sms works beautiful, i just cant send or receive mms, and the oz .cab won't work. should i use a different arcsoft build for this rom? I'm running spb mobile shell 3.0 and sometimes the shortcuts dont like to work after its been running for a while, but when i select it from the start menu it fails too. uninstalled and reinstalled it 3 times, did a hard reset, installed it on both the phone and sd card, always the same result. it's not super important because i use yahoo and i forward my im's to my phone when i'm not online. but i cant see my friends list that way.
even with this minor issues i'm having, i still love the rom.
Phone is IMATE JASJAR
R 1.09
G 42.42.P8
0 D.07.70 RAN
If you do not have any difficult, and links to these ROMs and apologize for spelling mistakes, my English is not so good
I agree with you, it already switched, flash from here with Ranju's - v7.7: WM6.1 Pro but I want to try with someone else, that's fine, but there are few problems with crashes ring, so I want to try other versions, and 6,5 even be convinced that flash is the best with windows hp, not windows7 as my.
Take a deep look at this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567017
Dig & read all of information you might need before you start playing with your device..
And remember,,there's no such thing as "best" cooked ROMs.. I can say,,you gain something you lost something..
let colleagues give any ideas, know how to flashing your handset, clear to me is that rom has cooked things in more or less, before I put the rom on top, I've changed three of these, but still had some problems with them
Try them all till you get your personal best
And let us know...
Tomal's V10 Wm6.5
is very stable.
Am running
Tomal's V10
S2U2 - Touc Pro theme
SPB Keybaord V4.1
Olive Tree Bible reader
Microsoft Mobile Marketplace
Facebook - downloaded from Marketplace
Windows Live Messenger - downloaded from Marketplace
running very smooth and quick
What about free ram, 15mb if no benefit from it because they quickly drop to 9mb and some applications refuse to work, an example of the chamber under 9mb stops working, no photo, but this is a problem
enigma79 said:
What about free ram, 15mb if no benefit from it because they quickly drop to 9mb and some applications refuse to work, an example of the chamber under 9mb stops working, no photo, but this is a problem
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lol on a good day i can get 15mb free RAM, on a normal day i get about 7-10mb RAM and on a very vrery bad day 3-6mb RAM
will install it when I change my 128mb of ram, for now stay to 6.1 and ram within the 20-25mb
enigma79 said:
will install it when I change my 128mb of ram, for now stay to 6.1 and ram within the 20-25mb
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What ROM is it?
rоm was removed from here, but I do not remember any of it is, then I downloaded and tested over 12roma, so give me a link, it even has 21mb Flash storage
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CQO9AA3V
Kwl, will try on saturday
Kwl, will try on saturday
I am now back with him now install all the widgets and is ready for battle
enigma79 said:
I am now back with him now install all the widgets and is ready for battle
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What ROM are you now using?
VNint WM6.1 rom with XP theme is the best + flash disk
This rоm is the same image, which is the link for download, featuring a snippet is what is obtained
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458296
enigma79 said:
This rоm is the same image, which is the link for download, featuring a snippet is what is obtained
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i lyk the today topie bit look kwl
program used for desktop resco contact manager v1.11, for me is the best solution, even from the new version, now rоm to test thingonaspring http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643243
Now test the roms downloaded from here, I very much enjoyed 41mb and 31mb and ExtendedRom 9 MB, it is quite fast, and no crash for now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524498