Considering to buy a used WM6.x model for the android upgrade. Which cooked rom is the most complete at this point of time?
myc said:
Considering to buy a used WM6.x model for the android upgrade. Which cooked rom is the most complete at this point of time?
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Do you mean which WM phone is running Android the best? I'd say definitely the HD2 (Leo), as its hardware is more than ideal for running it and the popularity of the device has given it a lot of developmental attention. Just about everything on the Android ports is working as it should.
However, if the HD2 is out of your price range, ports for the older devices such as the HTC Touch Pro are more or less complete.
With all of these (barring the Leo) it's important to recognise that the Android ports will never run as smoothly as WM does on the phones, nor as smoothly as Android does on phones which were designed to run it. For the same price as an old-ish WM phone you should consider a second-hand Android phone. Things like the G1 are going for barely anything these days and in my opinion they provide a much better Android experience than a Diamond or something similar.
was thinking of hunting down a used WM6.5 with at least a 1000mhz processor. Any recommendations is appreciated. Just hoping the model is as popular as the TyTN II in terms of development attention.
myc said:
was thinking of hunting down a used WM6.5 with at least a 1000mhz processor. Any recommendations is appreciated. Just hoping the model is as popular as the TyTN II in terms of development attention.
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Definitely the HD2 then.
i have a htc hd2 cant complain with android. everything is working now
gingerbread port is working perfect too just a few minor bugs
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We all have read about HTC wanting to be the first to come out with an Android handset. But my question is this, what is the likelihood of HTC having official roms of Android for some of the other current phones (IE the Kaiser, Touch, and Titan).
Just wondering if my TILT is going to be (officially) stuck with Windows Mobile for the next 2 years.....
same question i want an answer for.... i really wanna rid myself of this slooooooo wm os....
Official version put out by HTC? Doubtful.
Various cooked versions put out by the good people here at XDA? Almost certainly.
Exactly. There's no way HTC would cannibalize their success with an hipothetical Android based machine by offering this ROM for other devices.
But, of course, cooked ROMs are possible. The key factor here is hardware compatibility and drivers. If the official HTC Android ROMs are tied to some specific chipset and only have the drivers for that, you're out of luck.
Why is everyone so anti wm. I love it. There are advantages to having an os with an api so close to the desktop, ie many developers because its easy to learn.
I don't mind WM too much. Hey, we knew what we got when we bought our phones didn't we? I would like the choice of android however. Choice is always good and maybe it'll be better than what we have now. I'd say unofficial releases of Android for popular devices are likely. Just like we got unofficial WM6 releases.
As much as I think WM can be improved, i;d like to actually see and use android before I anoint it as a savior to smartphone/pda users.
Anything can look great in a controlled demo on YouTube. Let's see someone live with it for a week and then decide if its truly a replacement.
The iPhone UI, while quite impressive, still can't do half of what the WM phones can today. Yet the media love to say its the greatest thing on earth. I'm happy the iPhone Ui inspired lots of new WM development, but in the end, I still have a WM phone. And have bought to devices since the iPhone went live.
Want to run Android on Kaiser?
Check this out - running in an emulator via haret...
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds
WinMo >>>>>> all other mobile operating systems....
jonsnowboard said:
Check this out - running in an emulator via haret...
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds
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Haret is not an emulator, it´s a bootloader. WM shuts down when you boot Android with Haret.
Hi..... Im wondering whether I should get the htc dream, or the touch pro 2. The only thing that is holding me back is that the dream has been out for quite awhile but im not sure if touch pro 2 would be good as many say google android beats windows mobile. The reason im choosing between these two is because I want the qwerty keyboard. Would appreciate your help
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Hi..... Im wondering whether I should get the htc dream, or the touch pro 2. The only thing that is holding me back is that the dream has been out for quite awhile but im not sure if touch pro 2 would be good as many say google android beats windows mobile. The reason im choosing between these two is because I want the qwerty keyboard. Would appreciate your help
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Welcome to the forum
Design on TP2 is much much nicer
It has a better screen
I think also better processor (Not sure)
And Android is not as solid OS than WM, is just too young...
So TP2 definetly!
orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
Design on TP2 is much much nicer
It has a better screen
I think also better processor (Not sure)
And Android is not as solid OS than WM, is just too young...
So TP2 definetly!
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X2 on the TP2!
orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
Design on TP2 is much much nicer
It has a better screen
I think also better processor (Not sure)
And Android is not as solid OS than WM, is just too young...
So TP2 definetly!
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Okay, thanks
What about touch diamond 2? Or should I wait for touch pro2?
Sexplosion said:
What about touch diamond 2? Or should I wait for touch pro2?
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At the time that Touch pro 2 will hit the stores it will be the best phone in the market . This is my personal opinion.
About Android, you can't compare it with WM. Android lacks on variety of apps because it's not in the market for too long. I think that there are only 2 devices that using it. For WM you will find much more apps. The only good with Android is that it is based on Linux & that it is an opensource operating system. This means that it is easier for developers / programmers to make an app for it.-
Anyone have any convincing info on the Sprint launch date for the TP2?
just get a kaiser they cost much less.
or if you want to spend the money get an x1
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Anyone have any convincing info on the Sprint launch date for the TP2?
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Not sure about sprint date but for the restof the world june 5th is the date announced
I would get the G1. It is fresh new and something different. It is my favorite phone on the market.
I would get the TP2 for many reason. The first because, as orb3000 said, Android is still somewhat young, and doesn't have nearly the support that WM does right now. And don't forget, that Android is open source, so the insanely-talented hackers/devs will probably port it in no time.
We Kaiser users already have an almost fully functional version of Android. And my thoughts on using it, is that Android is alright, but WM is far superior for now (and IMHO definitely superior with WM 6.5 running). Plus, I hear that the Touch Pro2's keyboard is amazing and the whole device performs really well.
Dave
Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.
HTC in my experience is awefull build quality. After owning four diferent models I have vowed never to own one again. Shame really, apart from the poor camera selection they are designed really well ..... just a shame they fall to bits.
Out of your list, would have to be TG01.
Have you looked at the new Omnia II's? (not the Omnia HD) Theres a full on Iphone/HD lookie-likely and two keyboard models, one a TP2 type and one a blackberry type.
Don't forget the Acer M900 (which is what I currently use) and the more pocket friendly F900.
Touch Pro 2 definetly
Because keyboard is a must for me!
Merge threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4181275#post4181275
wizern23 said:
Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.
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I had windows mobile and even though preference is a matter of perspective.... windows might be a step in the wrong direction. Back when I had it windows was ahead of its time... but now it seems like its standing still ... like its been stagnant for the last 3 yrs I haven't seen any major differences...from android to winmo is going Back to resistive touch screens... with not so finger friendly gestures because the screens tend to not pick up on the motion... I would really love to see MS step it up and release a new os or 7.0 which I hope makes a major difference. Dont get me wrong for business i would only use winmo or BB... but at this point Android just seems like a wiser choice... its not an ancient OS that will probably bore you quickly. All the phones sound great ... if you want break down and comparisons then go to infosyncworld.com ... they rate the phones for you.
As somebody who's an advocate of Windows Mobile, my honest opinion is that now isn't a good time to buy a WinMo phone at all, especially not for the first time. The only people I would recommend the current batch of WM phones to are people who already use WM, don't want to learn a different system, and REALLY need a new device.
Here's why: Windows Mobile 6 has a real learning curve, and coming from Android you're probably going to find yourself frustrated at a lot of the inconsistencies and complications. Further, WM7 is already on the horizon and I think we'll be getting our first real peeks at it before the year is out. It should be a massive, fundamental overhaul to the way WM works. There's a lot of unanswered questions right now, ESPECIALLY whether WM7 apps will work on WM6 devices and whether it will be possible to upgrade any current WM6 or 6.5 devices to 7. If not, it's possible that application support for WM6 devices might grind to a halt within a year.
If I were in your boots, I'd try to hold on to that G1 as long as you can. By October or November, I think we'll have a better view of the future of WM and it'll be easier to see whether WM will serve your needs going forward.
Now, all this is completely moot if you're rolling in enough dough to just buy a new phone whenever you feel like it. If so, feel free to buy whatever you like.
Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. I really dont care about having to learn how to use windows mobile. Im more interested in the devices themself. My main concern is switching to a device with out a keyboard.
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Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. \\
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Well, that's the problem: we just don't know yet. A lot of people here seem to take it for granted that WM7 will be as "open" as WM6 in terms of porting and the like, but comments from MS make me a lot less confident -- it sounds like WM7 might have much more specific hardware requirements that will keep it from being run on older models. It's POSSIBLE WM7 will be able to be put on, say, a Touch Pro 2, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
All signs point to WM7 being a major upgrade (keep in mind that WM7 has been in development since 6.1 dropped if not longer), and I think it's going to be really disappointing to be stuck with 6.5 once 7 hits.
But if you're looking to roll the dice, the Touch Pro 2 looks like a great phone UNLESS you want to use it as a media player. Lack of a 3.5mm jack is a serious weakness there.
yea the 3.5mm jack is a necessity b/c i planned on getting the Motorola S9s or something along that line to use because all of those except the hero are huge or heavy
I personally don’t believe that WM7 will be ready early 2010. It might take until 2011 that we see any WM7device.
TP2 seams currently best HTC choice if you need keyboard. However frankly speaking after having 2 HTC devices (Hermes and Kaiser) with slide keyboards I am not very confident about the durability (quality) of HTC hardware. Both of the devices had after short time issues with the rails and tilt mechanism.
Just recently I went to a shop to have look on the TP2 and the keyboard rails and the tilt seams same crap as previous devices. You can also read many complain in the TP2 section about screen wobbling. Touch HD has a very nice large screen (love large screens) but it is 1 year old technology and performance wise it did not satisfied many people. Furthermore as you are from USA you would need Australian version to able to use in American 3G. But the Device cost still after 1 year some 800-900$
My personal favoured are currently the Samsung Omnia II/i800 and Samsung Omnia II pro (b7610) Specs on the paper and the current reviews are indicating that those are under best devices on the market. Furthermore Samsung has almost entirely covered with additional software the aged WinMo operation platform. Further positive point is the Price. Both Samsung devices are about 100-200 USD cheaper then HTC devices even though they have better CPU; Camera etc.
I agree with Bulldog -- the Omnia II devices look really excellent. I like the design of the TP2 better, but I trust Samsung's build quality more and, feature-wise, it's fantastic.
Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
That for me is an added value to consider before buying
orb3000 said:
Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
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Yes you do. This site offers Winmob o/s and Winmob App support to all. If you want cooked roms, look no further than omnia.modaco.com where there are plenty! My Omnia (original one) is currently running a great cooked rom of WM 6.5
Lets also not forget the AMOLED screen either on the new Omnias. I really regret buying my Acer M900, not because its crap - its not - but the new Samsungs look simply stunning. And if you factor in the success of the Omnia, widely regarded as the best Winmob all-rounder, the new Omnias should be spanking!
So I've been a smartphone person for a while and the last good phone I had was the Nokia N91 which broke. I've been using a crappy Samsung slider to make/take calls and send/receive messages.
I'm getting a new phone and have narrowed down my choices to 2.
HTC HD2 (Leo) or the HTC Hero.
Now, I love the HTC Hero but the only thing keeping me is what I've heard about it being very laggy (and ive seen some videos, opening the mail takes at least 5-10 seconds). I have used the Android OS several times at the store and really love it (recently tried the HTC Droid Eric by Verizon).
I have also used Windows Mobile and find it okay, but seem to like Android better. Also, HTC Hero will NOT get 3G in the US...
I'm looking at the HD2 because it packs a lot of horsepower... 1Ghz is pretty dang nice, and from the videos I've seen lag does not exist AT ALL.
So now I have this dilemma... should I buy the HD2 or Hero. I guess it comes down to whether or not WinMo is better than Android (FOR ME. Please don't start a android vs winmo flame war).
What do you guys think?
P.S. I need to buy an unlocked GSM. No other options. Will probably get it from Middle East/Europe. Availability in a certain region is not an issue for me.
Welcome to HTC XDA! We highly recommend HTC HD2 top of the line PPC!! See the LEO section for the specs, answers & info...
I am personally waiting for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 which runs android, a very high resolution, and the snapdragon processor, in my opinion it is superior to the hd2 and the hero
Thanks galaxys for the warm welcome.
I'm not sure what you mean by PPC, but why exactly is it that you recommend it? The superior hardware?
and thanks jad for the response... I have considered the X10 and think its pretty cool but I'm not willing to wait and need a new phone NOW
PPC means Pocket PC. Anything that runs Windows Mobile is a pocket PC. It's not a term you see much nowadays.
The HD2 is probably the best PPC/WM device out there at the moment. As far as I'm aware (others please correct me if I'm wrong) the Eris is the Hero in another casing spcifically for Verizon. If only the Leo ran Android....
Ah okay thanks TheBrit
Yes you are correct about the Eris. Just different case.
Also, I've really fallen in love with android... so I guess I'll go for the Hero.
There's also the Samsung Moment that runs Android and has a physical keyboard.
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... If only the Leo ran Android....
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Thanks guys, I decided to buy the Hero. It will be shipping soon
Good decision!!
Go to Leo section to start learning
orb3000 said:
Good decision!!
Go to Leo section to start learning
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He said Hero not Leo
Just saw this Video.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_handset_running_windows_phone_7_caught_in_the_wild-news-1477.php
The specs are really awesome, 1GB of RAM!!!
Also winmo & looks pretty slick, I was thiking of getting a android phone end of this year. But with this coming up I am not sure what to do. When are they going to come up with phones that can boot multiple OS system. (could have tried palm pre OS too )
The only other phone I heard coming up which would have better specs than this is the HTC scorpion.
Bikram said:
I was thiking of getting a android phone end of this year.
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Wait until it's time to upgrade, then ask again.
It makes zero sense to think about this now. A lot will change until the end of the year (lots of Android phones coming out and LG will not be the only company making WP7 devices).
Bikram said:
Just saw this Video.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_handset_running_windows_phone_7_caught_in_the_wild-news-1477.php
The specs are really awesome, 1GB of RAM!!!
Also winmo & looks pretty slick, I was thiking of getting a android phone end of this year. But with this coming up I am not sure what to do. When are they going to come up with phones that can boot multiple OS system. (could have tried palm pre OS too )
The only other phone I heard coming up which would have better specs than this is the HTC scorpion.
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And here is an HD 2 running WP 7. http://www.winmo.nl/windows-phone-7-series-draait-op-de-htc-hd2/
There are no phones currently out with WP 7, M$ is just testing chassis requirements . It seems the base requirement is going to be a 1 Ghz processor. By the time WP 7 is officially released in 3Q 2010, believe me there will be a bunch of phones from HTC, LG, and others loaded with or upgradable to WP7S.
http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?lang=1033&id=124244
That page you linked to is unlikely to be legit, there is no confirmation that the HD2 is able to run Windows Phone 7. In addition, I'm not sure they're going to offer upgrades, because phones like the Toshiba TG02 and K01 are launching with 6.5.3 with no indication of an upgrade.
i think
that hd2 will be your best mobile
chambo622 said:
That page you linked to is unlikely to be legit, there is no confirmation that the HD2 is able to run Windows Phone 7. In addition, I'm not sure they're going to offer upgrades, because phones like the Toshiba TG02 and K01 are launching with 6.5.3 with no indication of an upgrade.
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The site is legit, it is the Dutch Engaget or Boy Genius Report, whether the pics are legit or not, who knows, but all the US rumor sites are picking up on them and the general concensus is that the HD 2 has the hardware to be upgradable
http://www.redmondpie.com/htc-hd2-to-get-windows-mobile-7-upgrade-9140128/
Yep, the HD2 specs will be able to handle WM7.
I completely agree that the specs meet the requirements, but the question is whether it will happen (either due to the efforts of HTC or the community here at XDA).
I don't mean to **** in your cheerios or anything. But that site says IF that phone is the RUMORED LG Apollo then it will probably have 1gig ram etc. All that article says for sure is that it's a WM7 phone. I won't hold my breath.
B4 winmo 7 came out, the choice was too obvious, get Android (unless you want break the promises you made to yourself and get an IPHONE). Now my contract finishes beginning of Q3, and I was thinking of getting HTC desire. Now back to confusion, LG 1GB vs HTC desire 512Mb, Android with 20,000 apps Vs Microsoft WiMo. Hopefully we will get more info about winmo 7 soon.
Motorola XT720 Motoroi.
That's what I'm going to buy as my next phone
Bye HD2...
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And here is an HD 2 running WP 7. http://www.winmo.nl/windows-phone-7-series-draait-op-de-htc-hd2/
There are no phones currently out with WP 7, M$ is just testing chassis requirements . It seems the base requirement is going to be a 1 Ghz processor. By the time WP 7 is officially released in 3Q 2010, believe me there will be a bunch of phones from HTC, LG, and others loaded with or upgradable to WP7S.
http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?lang=1033&id=124244
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Well now I hear that;s not true http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2_doesnt_qualify_for_a_windows_phone_7_upgrade-news-1479.php
One main thing I was looking forward to in my new phone is high speed processor, 1Ghz. Motoroi is slow too I already have Xperia.