Hi all. This is my first ever new thread so go easy on me. A while back we had a think-tank to make GoogleMaps work for navigation outside of the US. I figured if that was allowed then this request should be...
Skype makes SkypeMobile for android but it only works on Verizon. I figure there is no reason the smart people here can't mod the APK or phone ID to force it to work on my T-Mobile G1 (even if only over WiFi).
Is anyone up to the challenge?
-Sorry if this has been discussed, but I did try searching first and only found links to an old Skype Lite, which is not the same as Skype Mobile from Skype.
As far as I'm aware, even the official skype app on android uses minutes to call a cheaper number to call your skype contacts cheaply. If I'm not mistaken, on the verizon app there's no way to make data/wifi only calls. Fring's better for that
Skype Beta is available for T-Mobile Android devices. it does call out to a number to make the skype calls, but it calls out to the same number every time. THE SAME NUMBER EVERY TIME.
Hey, doesn't T-Mobile have a "Favorite 5" program or something?
mghtyred said:
Skype Beta is available for T-Mobile Android devices. it does call out to a number to make the skype calls, but it calls out to the same number every time. THE SAME NUMBER EVERY TIME.
Hey, doesn't T-Mobile have a "Favorite 5" program or something?
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mghtyred beat me too it.
You can also do something similar with Google Voice's call out feature, I believe it's option 2 from within the automated menu to make an outbound call. Ofcourse you would need to add it to your 5 Faves first.
By the way, I can't remember if Skype's number is a 1-800/1-877 number or not, but T-Mobile prohibits those from My-Faves.
Technically, they frown upon you adding GV's number as well, but I don't know if they've figured out a way to track that yet.
mattv888 said:
As far as I'm aware, even the official skype app on android uses minutes to call a cheaper number to call your skype contacts cheaply. If I'm not mistaken, on the verizon app there's no way to make data/wifi only calls. Fring's better for that
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This.
Fring works great.
Nimbuzz is an option as well
T-mobile no longer has myFaves and they found out people were setting the Voice number as a fave and it still costs now.
The only way you have myFaves with the G1 is if it's an old plan it's not available now.
Now that google has allowed free calls through Gmail (for US and Canada), is there any application through which we can make/place calls on windows mobile?
I know there is OneDailer+SIP client path...but its kind of cumbersome, is there any easy way?
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Mafioso said:
Now that google has allowed free calls through Gmail (for US and Canada), is there any application through which we can make/place calls on windows mobile?
I know there is OneDailer+SIP client path...but its kind of cumbersome, is there any easy way?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671086 ??
usachftp said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671086 ??
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hey its not a true solution, you still need some sort of SIP client to receive the incoming call, because incoming calls are just as charged the same as outgoing calls...
Is there one that uses voip to chsnge the caller id so I dont.use minnutes? Apks are fine too
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Ryistech said:
Is there one that uses voip to chsnge the caller id so I dont.use minnutes? Apks are fine too
Sent from amazingly huge Samsung Infuse.
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I'm not an expert by any means regarding these phones, but I am a Network Engineer. Having dealt with VoIP for quite a while now, it sounds like you're looking for some type of program that you can assign what's called a DTA to your phone, which is essentially what Google Voice does.
If you're dialing out for internet calls using SIP, SIP ALG off of your personal Wifi at home or in a hotspot you shouldn't be using any minutes at all since you're not using the wireless provider's network to place the call. Since you're in the Infuse forums here, I would assume you have an Infuse and Google Voice is available to you and would be a sufficient application for what you're trying to accomplish.
Thanks for the reply. But what im looking for is an apo that I can change the caller id to anything I want, kind of like "bluff my call" but with voip
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Recently bought N5 (play store), also bought activation kit from T-Mobile for the $30/month unlimited data prepaid plan. Works great. Was my intention to use GrooveIP to make VOIP calls using the data only and never touch the 100 mins portion of the plan. Then I hear about Google dropping the XMPP support in Google Voice. While I understand that this isn't supposed to happen until May of 2014, my question is this. Are there any alternatives that will allow me to make Data only VOIP calls on my N5?
If this is posted in the wrong section I apologize.
Thanks In Advance.
D$
Im not going to even begin to worry for about 4 months. Gotta give Google some time to possibly introduce a Hangouts voice calling alternative. If they don't, then I guess I am going to have to switch to Straight Talk. It only ends up being 6 dollars more a month than the Tmobile plan when you buy 6 month cards off Amazon and as an added bonus you dont have to worry about minutes anymore and you get much better coverage. Only major negative is your data is cut in half.
Get a s4 with wifi calling.
The stock rom allows you to make "Internet" (SIP) calls or you could install an app like CSipSimple. Either way, just find a SIP provider you like.
gtj0 said:
The stock rom allows you to make "Internet" (SIP) calls or you could install an app like CSipSimple. Either way, just find a SIP provider you like.
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Thank you. I didn't know you could do that. Do you have any suggestions on where I might go to shop SIP providers? Thank you.
TheDMoney said:
Thank you. I didn't know you could do that. Do you have any suggestions on where I might go to shop SIP providers? Thank you.
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There are tons of them out there. Just search for "sip provider" or "voip provider". The right one for you will depend a lot on what country you're in, what your calling patterns are, how many minutes you expect to use, etc.
In the US, callentric, broadvoice, voip.ms, vitelity are just a few.
I think OP will have to wait for google to change their api. I am kinda worried too using OBI100 at my office.
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Thank you. I didn't know you could do that. Do you have any suggestions on where I might go to shop SIP providers? Thank you.
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Here is a list of sip termination providers:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Sip+Trunking+Providers
One popular way to make free sip calls is to use a free pbx that can relay outogoing calls via a Google Voice account:
https://www1.pbxes.com/
Thank you, the information is awesome. I knew I was in the right place, even if not in the right forum to begin with. :highfive:
zgx said:
Here is a list of sip termination providers:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Sip+Trunking+Providers
One popular way to make free sip calls is to use a free pbx that can relay outogoing calls via a Google Voice account:
https://www1.pbxes.com/
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Will this still be possible after XMPP is terminated?
otacon507 said:
Will this still be possible after XMPP is terminated?
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Gateways such as pbxes and Sipsorcery are not using XMPP, so they should work after XMPP is shut off.
zgx said:
Gateways such as pbxes and Sipsorcery are not using XMPP, so they should work after XMPP is shut off.
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To quote a guy from Reddit:
"If you are using OBI, GrooveIP, csipsimple via PBXes, or your own * box etc., they will cease to function as they use Asterisk PBX modules on the server end to translate XMPP (Jabber) in to SIP protocols."
Therefore, according to him, PBX is no longer possible?
otacon507 said:
To quote a guy from Reddit:
"If you are using OBI, GrooveIP, csipsimple via PBXes, or your own * box etc., they will cease to function as they use Asterisk PBX modules on the server end to translate XMPP (Jabber) in to SIP protocols."
Therefore, according to him, PBX is no longer possible?
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My misake. You're correct, PBXes.org will no longer work because, yes, they use XMPP.
(see: http://www1.pbxes.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=1289421168)
Sipsourcery does not use XMPP, but rather HTTP, so they should continue to work.
caribouxda said:
Get a s4 with wifi calling.
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You do know that wi-fi calling still uses minutes.. right?
I have used the following process even before I discovered GrooveIP was going to stop working on May 15 because of Google dropping support for XMPP.
Setup a free SIP account on (say) www.callcentric.com and select a DID.
Use the Internet Phone setting on the N5 to create a SIP account to your Callcentric Number.
Go to Google Voice on a desktop and route your GV number to that DID. You will have to verify the number by installing a SIP client either on the desktop or set it up on your N5.
Download and install Google Voice Callback (available free at the Amazon app store).
Then when you want to make a call over data (WiFi or 3G) call as usual, let GV Callback intercept the call and do a callback. It should callback your Google Voice number which will be forwarded to your Callcentric number and ring on your cell. When you answer Google Voice will call and connect you to the original number.
Similarly if people call your GV number it should ring your cell over the SIP connection to Callcentric.
No airtime minutes should be consumed in this process.
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I have used the following process even before I discovered GrooveIP was going to stop working on May 15 because of Google dropping support for XMPP.
Setup a free SIP account on (say) www.callcentric.com and select a DID.
Use the Internet Phone setting on the N5 to create a SIP account to your Callcentric Number.
Go to Google Voice on a desktop and route your GV number to that DID. You will have to verify the number by installing a SIP client either on the desktop or set it up on your N5.
Download and install Google Voice Callback (available free at the Amazon app store).
Then when you want to make a call over data (WiFi or 3G) call as usual, let GV Callback intercept the call and do a callback. It should callback your Google Voice number which will be forwarded to your Callcentric number and ring on your cell. When you answer Google Voice will call and connect you to the original number.
Similarly if people call your GV number it should ring your cell over the SIP connection to Callcentric.
No airtime minutes should be consumed in this process.
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Why are you stressing that we own a Nexus 5? I do not think that this is supported in regular JB systems? Would you mind writing a small tutorial and iron out the fine details you are outlining here?
Thanks, very resourceful post!
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Why are you stressing that we own a Nexus 5? I do not think that this is supported in regular JB systems? Would you mind writing a small tutorial and iron out the fine details you are outlining here?
Thanks, very resourceful post!
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First of all this is a N5 forum which is why I assume that users will be using the N5. In fact this process works for the GN and Nexus S (and Nexus 4) but I can't vouch for non GED devices since I don't have any.
To expand a little (and as they say in maths texts, the rest is left an an exercise for the reader).
I have used the following process even before I discovered GrooveIP was going to stop working on May 15 because of Google dropping support for XMPP.
Setup a free SIP account on (say) www.callcentric.com and select a DID.. That means go www.callcentric.com and register an account. Then choose their free DID plan and select a number in one of the New York area codes they provide. I think 845 is one of them; It really doesn't matter what number you choose - just remember it.
Use the Internet Phone setting on the N5 to create a SIP account to your Callcentric Number. This is Phone/Settings/Call Settings/Accounts.
Setup a SIP account using the username 1777nnnnnnn which is assigned to your new account, password as you provided and server callcentri.com
Go to Google Voice on a desktop and route your GV number to that DID. You will have to verify the number by installing a SIP client either on the desktop or set it up on your N5.
Confirm that you can receive calls on this number in that your account [email protected] is receiving calls. Confirm that by calling you (e.g.) 845 number and make sure it rings on your phone. This will be a SIP call and not use any data.
Go to Google Voice and set the (854) number as a number for GV to forward calls. GV will then ask you to confirm that number by calling it and asking you to enter a 2 digit number into the called phone. You will need to make sure you can receive call on your cell on that number.
If you are successful, then your new number (callcentric) will not ring on your cell.
Download and install Google Voice Callback (available free at the Amazon app store). This app is not available at the Play Store since apparently it violates some rule Google has about apps but Amazon host it fine, The author is Xinlu,
What Google Voice Callback does is, it will intercept a regular call on your cellphone and ask if you want to use GV Callback. You do. The call will then be hung up and Google will now call your back on your (845) number (over the Internet) and when you pick up, it will present you will the ringing tone to the originally called number. When you connect you are now making an Internet call rather than using your TMO minutes,
Similarly if people call your GV number it should ring your cell over the SIP connection to Callcentric because you have forwarded all your calls to GV to your SIP phne.
No airtime minutes should be consumed in this process.
FYI if you are already a magicJack user, that is also a decent alternative. If you already use magicjack for your home line, you can download the app and make free calls to North America via wifi/data etc. You can get a new free number and route calls to your google voice number to your magicjack number. Unfortunately I'm not sure you can integrate your outgoing magicjack calls via google voice.
The quality of voip calls via magicjack is pretty decent over wifi and LTE from my experience. However if you're stuck in an area with 3G data, your call quality may vary. I have been using the app to make free calls on Nexus 7 tablet via Tmo data plan and it works well...
Do this https://simonics.com/gvgw/
Google voice calls right thru Android native sip. Works great..
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david279 said:
Do this https://simonics.com/gvgw/
Google voice calls right thru Android native sip. Works great..
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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I suspect that's going to break also with the loss of XMPP support. To quote their site
The Google Voice Gateway service will be discontinued on May 15, 2014, due to policy and technology changes being implemented by Google. Please see this blog posting for more details and the SIP Providers forum to discuss SIP provider alternatives. Thank you for your support in helping to make this service excellent since November 2011.
What I plan to do is use Google Voice callback and a free SIP provider like Callcentric. It's a bit more fiddly but I think it does not rely on XMPP support and you can still make free calls using data.
Hey Dev's, greetings!! Great work on the ROMs!! I have only one request. Can we get volte on Nexus 5? It is among the supported hardware and only there is no software. I don't want developers shoutung it isn't possible. If so, please tell why. It was fine by the phone in Japan. Also I heard that it is possible if we use SIP . I am a noob so if you could tell me how. Basically volte is communication by system dialler to network. Also, there is an app called Jio4gvoice. If someone could analyse the app and describe what it does, it would Hasten the work. Please help...
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The app acts as a bridge to your phone and a jio server through internet, which then converts the signal and redirects the call to the other person.
Volte is different. Calls are directly connected to the recipient. What you want is someone to make an app which "voice calls" to their server, and their server needs to convert the call and redirect the call to the recipient's number. Can a normal server handle this? No. Only the mobile network company have the resources to do this. Not only is this impossible for a developer, it is non sense to even ask this. Only way is if Google adds support for volte through a firmware update which is highly unlikely.
Please Google a bit before making such requests
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The app acts as a bridge to your phone and a jio server through internet, which then converts the signal and redirects the call to the other person.
Volte is different. Calls are directly connected to the recipient. What you want is someone to make an app which "voice calls" to their server, and their server needs to convert the call and redirect the call to the recipient's number. Can a normal server handle this? No. Only the mobile network company have the resources to do this. Not only is this impossible for a developer, it is non sense to even ask this. Only way is if Google adds support for volte through a firmware update which is highly unlikely.
Please Google a bit before making such requests
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Can't somebody find out the SIP details of the app and integrate it into Pixel Dialler? What about IP calling? Stop revoking and u too get your facts right.
GopalKaul said:
Can't somebody find out the SIP details of the app and integrate it into Pixel Dialler? What about IP calling? Stop revoking and u too get your facts right.
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Let's say someone gets the details from the app and integrates to the dialer, great jio voice calls will work. What about other operators? And how different would it be from jio4gvoice app? Can you use jio4gvoice to make voice calls from another operator? No. You want it to work on all operators? Then
That "somebody" can only be an operator. Who can provide such facilities.
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Let's say someone gets the details from the app and integrates to the dialer, great jio voice calls will work. What about other operators? And how different would it be from jio4gvoice app? Can you use jio4gvoice to make voice calls from another operator? No. You want it to work on all operators? Then
That "somebody" can only be an operator. Who can provide such facilities.
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Dude, jio4gvoice is a VoIP app right? Can't we use IP dial if we know the prefix/settings of the app.? Also, SIP is used in Japan on TMo for volte. How can I get the sip protocol necessary? From the operator or Jio4gvoice app?