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i was wondering. what exactly makes a Galaxy S device a Galaxy s device? i hope i made sense there...
because on twitter GalaxySsupport replied to a question i had originally asked to Samsungsupport about the infuse.
more or less. there are many phones named galaxy from samsung. then the galaxy s line came out, then the galaxy s conntinuum. then the galaxy indulge on metro pcs. then the i9003. galaxy s had a narrow line of hardware at first then they played with screens now the whole hardware profile can vary. the infuse is more galaxy s than the galaxy indulge, or the i9003. now they have the galaxy s 2 and will soon have the galaxy s 2 mini and galaxy s+ which will supposedly be based on a quallcom cpu.. so although the infuse has different gps hardware and mhl the radio is likely the same as the t959v sgs4g and is otherwise a galaxy s. samsung said it doesnt have the hardware requirements to be called a galaxy s when asked but it only seems to have hardware improvements. the audio chip is the same, the processor is the same, other phones called galaxy dont meet those requirements, and the phone is also capable of running gps and the camera while making phone calls, the sgs cant do either. im not really sure what game samsung is playing here but it seems galaxy s has been demoted to a label and att maybe didnt want that label because of the bugs and lack of support people think it had.
It seems to be a just a label. I mean this is way batter than any galaxy device out there. Poeple all up on dual core (I was one of them), what exactly do you need so much power for? How fast are you typing that you need a phone to keep up with you. The only phone that does require it would he the atrix because of its lapdock. But even then dual core seems to be a way to drain your battery if you don't know how to set up the phone correctly. And Samsung directed my question to the Galaxy S twitter account. I still think this phone meets and exceeds the requirements for a Galaxy S device.
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I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.
multi core is hard to utilize fully(has to do with the way things are processed and applications are written) but the step from one to two can feel like a big difference in some situations. any lag caused by background services can disappear because there is a non busy processor core ready to go. the lag difference can give the perception of performance even if the actual speed something is processed at is not much faster. if a dual core comes out that has great battery life and no heat issues im sure it will be great. dual core doesnt throw me off that much, what gets me however is they are already talking about 4 core chips for phones! please figure out a way to make the architecture smaller or make 3d architecture like they have been talking about for years so we can get more hz and less power usage. it cant be easy to parallelize applications with simple functions that are written in java.
multi core is great for benchmarking but beyond 2 cores i dont see the point on a small screen and one is perfectly acceptable.
Atrix dual core. Lag and heat central on that phone.
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My atrix got very hot as well. I haven't noticed any speed difference between my atrix and the infuse. I think overall the infuse is a far superior device.
i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.
I think I'm pretty much set with the Infuse.
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Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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h8rift said:
The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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OMG LOL. Epic fail. I knew something was up with that phone. LOL
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Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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the infuse gpu can keep up with some kernel tweaks and api support for tegra based games. the sgs renders some things better(not sure if that's true in a technical sense but certain benchmarks look more natueral) and in most cases can run similar frame rates, some overclocking and the sgx power vr540 gpu is a beast. dual core helps in games that are written for dual core especially if it uses tegra2 specific APIs, chainfire's chainfire 3d may help with that situation.
and well dual core would only help with lag caused by multi tasking. a laggy launcher on a single core may be just as laggy on a dual core(unless it is multi threaded), but a snappy launcher may lag if there is a background service running on a single core but is not likely lag to on a dual core even with background services. i guess i wasnt specific enough.
i guess im only reinforcing the idea that dual core is marketing nonsense because unless you are a multi tasking junkie you wont notice a bit of difference 90% of the time.
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The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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a large portion of the boot process is probably in one large thread making dual core useless untill the ui starts. though having the core ready would mean you could start playing with things while the ui is still loading making the wait for everything to load less annoying.
Dani897 said:
i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.
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What are the audio issues on the attain?
nstong said:
What are the audio issues on the attain?
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well the attain isnt tested yet, maybe i should have said sgs2. if the attain is the same as the sgs2 international supercurio wasnt very happy with the audio, and audio is important to me. it has a yamaha chip not a wolfson. not that yamaha is bad but it appears that the chip may be faulty or something. also wolfson was very cooperative in providing drivers and sources for supercurio's voodoo project. im sure it actually sounds good with the exception of the noise level. there are some clicking or popping issues from what i understand. i use in ear headphones and im sure id be able t to hear it.
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I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.
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Just making sure about this, but you do mean a 1.0 Ghz processor on Galaxy S right? lol
my bad yeah. furious typing at the moment of doing the list. lol
[Q] DUAL BOOT??? Q/A's
I am a definite fan of both WP7 and Android both for their social integration and the development and customization abilities. So ive heard alot of poeple talking about the dual boot and most are basically trash talking the idea. But me on the other hand as well as many other poeple would agree that any phone whether it may be WP7 or android, anybody with enough knowledge to be able to unlock and root both would love to be able to enjoy what they want when they want. I mean the soul purpose of development no matter what phone or OS is the ability to push this technology to its limits,going as far as our hardware will go and letting people have what really isnt meant to be, as far as us as cutomers with any service and the limitations they come with. And i know this idea would have many supporters who would love to donate in hopes of one day having the best of both worlds. i have the samsung focus and ive done alot of research on this phone and anybody can look it up that this phone is basiclly the same identical phone as the samsung google nexus s, the only real difference is the OS capabilities that you get with android on the nexus. ive compared both and well hardware, camera mp's and capabilities (well the nexus doesnt have face detection), screen res, and even screen size is the same even made with the same type of glass(gorilla that is at least confirmed by samsung via twitter). My question, if the phone is essentially the same,would it be possible to dual boot the nexus stock 2.3 rom or even any custom that the nexus has or had and maybe even ice cream sandwich like i know the nexus will soon have or if not already have?. But im also keepin in mind that those roms would have to be customized and remade to work around the focuses WP7.5 OS with dual boot.
I like both as well, but the only way you can do this is to buy an HTC hd2.
pmb1903 said:
[Q] DUAL BOOT??? Q/A's
I am a definite fan of both WP7 and Android both for their social integration and the development and customization abilities. So ive heard alot of poeple talking about the dual boot and most are basically trash talking the idea. But me on the other hand as well as many other poeple would agree that any phone whether it may be WP7 or android, anybody with enough knowledge to be able to unlock and root both would love to be able to enjoy what they want when they want. I mean the soul purpose of development no matter what phone or OS is the ability to push this technology to its limits,going as far as our hardware will go and letting people have what really isnt meant to be, as far as us as cutomers with any service and the limitations they come with. And i know this idea would have many supporters who would love to donate in hopes of one day having the best of both worlds. i have the samsung focus and ive done alot of research on this phone and anybody can look it up that this phone is basiclly the same identical phone as the samsung google nexus s, the only real difference is the OS capabilities that you get with android on the nexus. ive compared both and well hardware, camera mp's and capabilities (well the nexus doesnt have face detection), screen res, and even screen size is the same even made with the same type of glass(gorilla that is at least confirmed by samsung via twitter). My question, if the phone is essentially the same,would it be possible to dual boot the nexus stock 2.3 rom or even any custom that the nexus has or had and maybe even ice cream sandwich like i know the nexus will soon have or if not already have?. But im also keepin in mind that those roms would have to be customized and remade to work around the focuses WP7.5 OS with dual boot.
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can you provide at least a proof before you claim that both device are identical? getting spec sheet from the internet is not the same as getting the tech sheet from manufacturers.
of course i know there not completly identical since they were built for 2 totally different operating systems, well i mean they dont have the same brand name of processor but regardless there still 1gz, based on the specs ive seen same phone released one month after eachother just different housing and a curved screen. But i have looked at a bunch of tech review sites and im very fimiliar with custom roms and the rooting process of android as ive done many but i know very little about WP7 besides the fact that i forced the mango update via zune. i mean i know completly how to use the focus,but just not in the extent of chevron,interpop or in depth dev.
and why hd2, is there something in particular about that device or is it just the one that the only dual boot available and was designed for. the focus is a newer phone with a newer OS. Im guessing another dual boot would have to be developed because there 2 different phones or is it an HTC thing and the sense UI mixed with win mobile that only allows that certain dual boot capability.
The Focus and Nexus aren't the same
pmb1903 said:
and why hd2, is there something in particular about that device or is it just the one that the only dual boot available and was designed for. the focus is a newer phone with a newer OS. Im guessing another dual boot would have to be developed because there 2 different phones or is it an HTC thing and the sense UI mixed with win mobile that only allows that certain dual boot capability.
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The HD2 is a powerful device. The HD7 is a slight redesign of it. The Evo 4G and Inspire 4G are a very slight redesign of it. I think the HD2 also had an unlocked boot loader, so it can be hacked to run nearly any OS (Android, MeeGo, Ubuntu, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, and I even saw one with Windows 95)
pmb1903 said:
[Q] DUAL BOOT??? Q/A's
I am a definite fan of both WP7 and Android both for their social integration and the development and customization abilities. So ive heard alot of poeple talking about the dual boot and most are basically trash talking the idea. But me on the other hand as well as many other poeple would agree that any phone whether it may be WP7 or android, anybody with enough knowledge to be able to unlock and root both would love to be able to enjoy what they want when they want. I mean the soul purpose of development no matter what phone or OS is the ability to push this technology to its limits,going as far as our hardware will go and letting people have what really isnt meant to be, as far as us as cutomers with any service and the limitations they come with. And i know this idea would have many supporters who would love to donate in hopes of one day having the best of both worlds. i have the samsung focus and ive done alot of research on this phone and anybody can look it up that this phone is basiclly the same identical phone as the samsung google nexus s, the only real difference is the OS capabilities that you get with android on the nexus. ive compared both and well hardware, camera mp's and capabilities (well the nexus doesnt have face detection), screen res, and even screen size is the same even made with the same type of glass(gorilla that is at least confirmed by samsung via twitter). My question, if the phone is essentially the same,would it be possible to dual boot the nexus stock 2.3 rom or even any custom that the nexus has or had and maybe even ice cream sandwich like i know the nexus will soon have or if not already have?. But im also keepin in mind that those roms would have to be customized and remade to work around the focuses WP7.5 OS with dual boot.
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CPU:
Focus: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
HD2: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
Nexus: 1.2 GHZ Dual Core
Display:
Focus: WVGA (800x480) Super Amoled
HD2: WVGA (800x480) TFT LCD
Nexus: 720P (1280x720) Super Amoled
Screen Size:
Focus: 4.0"
HD2: 4.3"
Nexus: 4.65"
Front Camera:
Focus: None
HD2: None
Nexus: 1.3mp
RAM:
Focus: 512MB
HD2: 448MB
Nexus: 1024MB
They are definitely not the same phone. Windows Phone only supports WVGA, so it won't even work properly on the Nexus. Windows Phone doesn't even support dual core processors, so if it did work, it would be slow (1 core, 600mhz). The HD2 is more similiar to the Focus then the Nexus is.
answer
YES. if and only if the phones have
1. identical hardware 100% identical hardware down to the pcb, hardware keys camera models, (delimited by availability of driver)
2. and program loader (to write the os to the internal storage) is available for both os,
3. as well as someone actually splices the bootloaders (both bootloadrs for both os - something like magloader)
4. and both filesystem can exist in a single internal disc and accessed by both OS
5. and drivers for both OS's are readily available.
last but not least
6. someone (with the capacity to understand in manufacturing and programming a consumer device with full know-how in driver writing, coding, file system access bla bla bla owns a jtag writer) actually wants to do it.
pmb1903 said:
and why hd2, is there something in particular about that device or is it just the one that the only dual boot available and was designed for. the focus is a newer phone with a newer OS. Im guessing another dual boot would have to be developed because there 2 different phones or is it an HTC thing and the sense UI mixed with win mobile that only allows that certain dual boot capability.
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hd2 was already windows mobile, and from what I've heard someone happened to get a test release of wp7 so that kind of fell into their lap.
Android is open source, so if there is enough interest it can be done, though with the hd2 there was a lot more to the story...
It is truly a one of a kind device, chances are you won't see any other dual booting phones for wp7 and android
aminy23 said:
The HD2 is a powerful device. The HD7 is a slight redesign of it. The Evo 4G and Inspire 4G are a very slight redesign of it. I think the HD2 also had an unlocked boot loader, so it can be hacked to run nearly any OS (Android, MeeGo, Ubuntu, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, and I even saw one with Windows 95)
CPU:
Focus: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
HD2: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
Nexus: 1.2 GHZ Dual Core
Display:
Focus: WVGA (800x480) Super Amoled
HD2: WVGA (800x480) TFT LCD
Nexus: 720P (1280x720) Super Amoled
Screen Size:
Focus: 4.0"
HD2: 4.3"
Nexus: 4.65"
Front Camera:
Focus: None
HD2: None
Nexus: 1.3mp
RAM:
Focus: 512MB
HD2: 448MB
Nexus: 1024MB
They are definitely not the same phone. Windows Phone only supports WVGA, so it won't even work properly on the Nexus. Windows Phone doesn't even support dual core processors, so if it did work, it would be slow (1 core, 600mhz). The HD2 is more similiar to the Focus then the Nexus is.
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He was comparing the Focus with Nexus S, not Galaxy Nexus.
www.unwiredview.com/2012/03/12/dual...er-in-the-uk-for-249-98-shipping-on-april-23/
I'm really excited for its launch here in Brazil. It should be coming really soon (first quarter, or so the rumors says).
I will keep the business in the family
ME WANTZ ACE 2
Herpderp Defy.
Need to save money for it
No idea when it will come in India.
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What are it's nearest competitors (when considering price range - processor power)
Bakuron said:
What are it's nearest competitors (when considering price range - processor power)
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Galaxy R (Dual-core 1Ghz ARM-Cortex A8/9 with Tegra 2)
LG Optimus 2x (This one is obvious)
Motorola Defy (I think it's not sold anymore - TI OMAP 3630 Dual-core 800Mhz with PowerVR SGX530)
Galaxy S Advance (Not very sure about phone specs)
Nokia Lumia 808 Pureview (Don't get me started)
Herpderp Defy.
Thanks man. Had a quick look at your suggestions:
R is bigger (i personally find Ace size optimal for a phone rather than PDA) and more expensive (another £60), so the Ace2 = more bang for buck.
Optimus, very similar, better spec(?) - dislike the 4 hardbuttons layout.
S Advance appears to have 1ghz dual core. But at this stage looks like a 295£ phone.
Wouldn't touch a Nokia smartphone.
Ace 2 it is then!
The new acepta Its really Cool !! ;D
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Bakuron said:
Thanks man. Had a quick look at your suggestions:
R is bigger (i personally find Ace size optimal for a phone rather than PDA) and more expensive (another £60), so the Ace2 = more bang for buck.
Optimus, very similar, better spec(?) - dislike the 4 hardbuttons layout.
S Advance appears to have 1ghz dual core. But at this stage looks like a 295£ phone.
Wouldn't touch a Nokia smartphone.
Ace 2 it is then!
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The 2x is almost similar to the R , with Tegra 2 as well
Herpderp Defy.
More suggestions:
Samsung Galaxy W (Probably a smaller version of Note)
Galaxy Note (Quite huge)
Galaxy SII (everyone's favourite)
Galaxy Ace Plus (LOL it's not that bad)
HTC Sensation XE/XL (XE = beats , XL = bigger screen)
HTC Edge (is it out yet ? Lol)
Motorola Defy+ (An upgraded version of my phone)
The badass Xiaomi phone (LOL)
Samsung Focus S (WP7 variant of SII)
Herpderp Defy.
Note really is massive.
W is a good equivalent, but prefer dual-core.
Sensation is another 100£ more. S II another 200£
Edge seemingly not available yet.
Xiaomi doesn't look too bad at all!!! - http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/xiaomi-phone-review/
Defy+ 4 buttons, sorry just not for me.
Ace + should be Ace pointless.
Focus S is a Windows phone...aka yuck.
Sony solo. 3.7 bravia screen. 1ghz dual core. 5mp camera. Floating touch (just move your finger over the screen). Will get ics.
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Kepas said:
Sony solo. 3.7 bravia screen. 1ghz dual core. 5mp camera. Floating touch (just move your finger over the screen). Will get ics.
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Solo or Sola? http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/13/sony-makes-the-xperia-sola-official/
1gig dual-core with a 1350mah battery sounds...interesting.
And guess what....this is a succesor season.S2 gets a successor--The samsung Galaxy S3...behold.The 1.8 Ghz Quad core processor phone...Now available as pre-order:
The Galaxy S III will come with a 4.6-inch Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen with a resolution of 720 x 1280. This means a ‘retina’ quality pixel density of 319ppi.Specifications include an Exynos 4212 quad-core 1.8GHz processor, 2GB RAM, 16GB of internal storage, a 12MP rear facing camera, a 2MP front facing camera and 4G LTE connectivity.It will also have version 4.0 of Samsung’s TouchWiz interface and we understand that it will run Google Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
My ACE is better than all phones
Other phones sucks! GO AHEAD GALAXY ACE!
Hey there,
Im looking for an Android phone for my girlfriend.
Specs:
- 3" till 4"
- Good cam (better than Htc Desire would be nice)
- Not ugly
- Smooth UI
I've found the Xperia Sola and the Optimus Speed. Does someone got a good choice?
Thanks a lot!
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Did you consider Galaxy Ace 2? It's not too expensive,the camera is 5 Mpixels,but can shoot 720p video+Jelly Bean coming soon too.
The HTC EVO 3D has a CDMA and GSM variant and neither is too pricey. It features 2 5mp cameras on the rear and one forward facing camera (1.2 MP I believe). Hardware specs are nice and it features the same Snapdragon S3 chip as the One S (the One S is overclocked from Qualcomm default clock speed to 1.7 GHz). I have had my CDMA 3D for nearly a year and have been happy with it and ROM/Development support is definitely there.
Thanks a lot for your answers!
The EVO is too big and a bit too expensive. But the Ace looks quite interesting.
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I'm not sure if it's available everywhere, but the Galaxy S Advance should have slightly better specs than the Ace 2 for almost the same price.
r0man.de said:
Hey there,
Im looking for an Android phone for my girlfriend.
Specs:
- 3" till 4"
- Good cam (better than Htc Desire would be nice)
- Not ugly
- Smooth UI
I've found the Xperia Sola and the Optimus Speed. Does someone got a good choice?
Thanks a lot!
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Not sure what you consider Mid class, i assume less expensive? I would look into the droid Razr (original or Maxx) you can get the original for around $50 if you are doing an upgrade and i have seen it go refurbed for $99. It has an 8mp camera and a 1.3mp front facing camera, dual-core processor and the whole thing is thin and beautiful. Battery isnt the best but still get about 8 hours normal usage 12 hours low usage. It comes with 8GB built in storage and an 8GB sd card for a total of 16GB which is awesome if you use the camcorder or camera a lot. You can check out and compare a few prices on Amazon or verizonwireless.com
Captivate?
Hi, I am familiar with this forum but I have never posted anything. Ok anyways I just ordered a Chinese knockoff phone called the Hero 2000+ of the Iphone 5, it comes as an android os instead of the ios. The reason I ordered this was to experiement with it, plus I like how the Iphone looks but dont care for the IOS. So I know MIUI makes a custom rom with an Iphone theme, so my question is can this be installed in a chinese knockoff? I would love to have the best of both worlds.
they sell this phone on android-sale
I cant put a link up because im a new user but here are the specs.
Short Description
- 4 inch FWVGA screen, 854*480 pixel
- MTK MT6577 1GHz dual-core processor, GPU: PowerVR SGX531
- Support GSM & WCDMA 3G network
- 512MB RAM / 4GB ROM
- 8MP rear camera, 0.3MP front camera
- Support WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS
- Android 4.0.4 OS, installed English Google Play store ]
reyrey507 said:
Hi, I am familiar with this forum but I have never posted anything. Ok anyways I just ordered a Chinese knockoff phone called the Hero 2000+ of the Iphone 5, it comes as an android os instead of the ios. The reason I ordered this was to experiement with it, plus I like how the Iphone looks but dont care for the IOS. So I know MIUI makes a custom rom with an Iphone theme, so my question is can this be installed in a chinese knockoff? I would love to have the best of both worlds.
they sell this phone on android-sale
I cant put a link up because im a new user but here are the specs.
Short Description
- 4 inch FWVGA screen, 854*480 pixel
- MTK MT6577 1GHz dual-core processor, GPU: PowerVR SGX531
- Support GSM & WCDMA 3G network
- 512MB RAM / 4GB ROM
- 8MP rear camera, 0.3MP front camera
- Support WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS
- Android 4.0.4 OS, installed English Google Play store ]
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I also just ordered one off of android sale!
Did you receive yours yet?
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jonnyleechee said:
Did you receive yours yet?
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I've got mine 3 weeks ago already... happy with it so far
Hi. Does this have play store preinstalled? Is there any multilanguage rom?