[Q] Polish scratched NS screen of not? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I scratched the screen of my wife's Nexus S and was wondering whether I should try polishing the screen with iDrops (or a similar scratch removal polish)?
Main reason for this question is that I do not know whether the Nexus S screen type (capacitive SAMOLED) will be damaged (cosmetically or functionally) if polished. Thanks for your input!

Herr Bauhaus said:
I scratched the screen of my wife's Nexus S and was wondering whether I should try polishing the screen with iDrops (or a similar scratch removal polish)?
Main reason for this question is that I do not know whether the Nexus S screen type (capacitive SAMOLED) will be damaged (cosmetically or functionally) if polished. Thanks for your input!
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I would think that polishing it may remove the oleophobic coating on the phone. I wouldn't do it, but maybe someone else on here knows better.
Out of curiosity, do you mind if I ask how you scratched the screen? Did it take a lot to scratch it? How bad is the scratch?

Thanks for your input...I won't be too concerned if it would lose the oleophobic coating as I will install a screen protector on it anyhow.
I scratched it when I dropped it out of my hand while picking it up. The sides of the phone are thin and slick and I think it is easy to let it slip for that reason. The phone dropped with the screen down on the stove, was a bad fall but I think the screen would have been largely undamaged if it would have had a screen protector installed.
Annoying is that I had ordered both the screen protector and silicone case for my wife's phone 2 weeks before I dropped it. If these items would have come in on time I would not have damaged her phone...

I wouldnt either. Seems a bit risky but u never know. It wont looks its touch factor but it will lose the top ole coat. Just slap a screen guard and ur good to go.

Don't know if it helps but I scratched my galaxy s screen which is samoled,and tried to polish it out, it left a permanent smudge ,looking worse than the original scratch!

Thanks for the input, guys. It looks like it is better to not polish it as it seems too risky.

Your best bet is to convince Best Buy that there is a defect with your phone and you need a replacement.
Don't feel as though you're scamming them. They scam people on a daily basis.

I noticed a few scratches on the bottom part of my screen and convinced BB that it was a defect so they exchanged it. I had also spoken to a represenative on the phone and was told that you can only do an exchange if you payed full price for the phone. Don't know if its true but that's what I was told
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Related question: would BB exchange the phone for scratches without a problem if one has the black tie protection plan.

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ok bought mine today, but no screen protector, am assuming its the same for everyone else, but whats your opinion, on whether or not its necessary, to have a screen protector.?
Doesn't come with one in the box.
I have ordered one as it better to be safe than sorry.
Yeh I suppose you are right but I may say for some very strange reason the screen looks and feels more robust than any phone I have ever used more or less like the iPhone
Mine got a faint scratch on day 1, from something in my pocket!
The screen cant be that strong!
Fon22
It's not nescesary until you get a scratch on your display
I always have two reasons why I get a screen protector:
1. To eliminate reflections. The Brando Anti-Glare ones are really good at this. I always use that kind of screen protector on all my devices (too bad they don't have it for the Desire... yet).
2. To avoid scratches. A scratch on the display is really nasty, especially when you constantly see it. And it will also influence the value later on when you want to sell the phone.
So.. if you, eventually, plan to sell the phone: Do yourself a favour and put a screen protector on it and -always- carry the phone in a case/pouch. You can sell the phone later as "As good as new! No scratches whatsoever!".
And if you want less reflection (at the cost of a somewhat more 'grainy' display) use an anti-glare protector. Those things are great when using your phone for navigation in the car when it's sunny!
marvi0 said:
ok bought mine today, but no screen protector, am assuming its the same for everyone else, but whats your opinion, on whether or not its necessary, to have a screen protector.?
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Get one. Cheaper when you think of it as an insurance policy! My Vikuiti protector is great. Probably replace it with the Brando when it becomes available.
I had a HD2 and the screen on that was next to impossible to scratch. A few times it was placed in my pocket with keys or screws. It even felt solid and scratch resistant. I heard it may well be glass.
Now the Desire. Hmmmmm. The screen feels a lot cheaper and bendy so I have really been careful with this one. I think you can see where this one is going?
I found a scratch on the top of the screen. How?! It has lived in it's case.
HTC got it so right with the HD2 and it now seems like a backward step again for what should have been a premium Android device.

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Have you tried microfiber cloth to see if it will come off?
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I don't own a Nexus S (I'm here doing research ) but that seems like something normal?
If you have a protected surface next to unprotected ones on the same area, it'll get less UV exposure and there will be some very light wear on the unprotected areas that might look perfect to your eye but because of these micro abrasions they're more likely to retain oil/dust/etc.
One of the very main reasons why I don't like screen protectors is that the phone doesn't "age" uniformly .
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1st you bought the device used for a YEAR .. what do you expect ?
2nd As long as you can make calls from it , why do you care ? some people bought used Nexuses and they can't even call lol
3rd Do you have an IMEI ? that's good
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So if you are such a passionate phone owner , why didn't you buy a new device so you can enjoy the screen ? You bought it used man ! Then you come here to complain ? See the recent posts of second hand buyers and thank god you have a working second hand nexus s.
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How is this complaining? I am simply asking if anyone else has experience with the issue and maybe found a solution. That is all. If no one knows, I might find something out myself. And if I don't, maybe it will fade over time, and otherwise I'll just have to ignore it.
And by the way, I would have bought a new one if they were still for sale here, but they weren't. I had to choose between importing for €600 or this second-hand for €140. I don't think it was such a bad choice in the end, but that's no reason to not try and make the best of it.
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I see the point here ....
It seems that buying a new Nexus S online was not an option available for you ....
However , I would not spend more time trying to clean the screen with different things , those screen are fragile and I'm sure you don't wanna mess it up more than it is ...
Goodluck.
Honestly, who protects just the "touchscreen" part of the screen?
I mean as much as I can gather from the pictures, the screen protector only covered the 4 inch screen not the whole front of the phone. Was it cheaper or something?
It's normal for the oleophobic coating to fade. Not using any screen protector from now on will probably result in it evening out in time.
If it's that distracting, just buy a full size screen protector, clean the screen really well and apply it. Wet application screen protectors are best on the nexus because they stick to the curved screen better.
Cheers
What Flukzr said, the screen would have been fine if it was a full size screen protector. I've never actually seen a protector that is JUST for the 4-inch screen and not the whole glass front.
Sadly there is not much you can do aside from replacing the glass, the oleophobic coating at the top and bottom has worn out (i believe this requires the lcd/amoled back too). However, you can use a full size screen protector and you shouldn't notice it.
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I'm guessing the only way to naturally remove the coating, would be to use it without a pouch, and keep it in you pants' (jeans) pocket.
Not that I'm recommending this, but you could try solvents, nail polish thinner (acetone), lighter fluid, alcohol etc. and see which one works. Since the screen is glass, it should be ok, unless you use acid or really strong solvents.
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Just a thought...
If this discoloration is driving you ape s#!t, consider purchasing a new digitizer... Once again this is just a thought, as I do not own a Nexus. I was just surfing and thought I'd add my 2 cents...
Hope I helped
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LOL, I've never seen anything like this. who protects only those 4 inches of the screen? when i read the title of this thread i got a little worried since i use a screen protector on my nexus s but mine covers the whole thing so i think I'm in the clear.
Honestly i think your best option here is to just use a screen protector on the whole screen. Or just leaving it alone and hopefully let time do its thing. I guess you have to choose which one bothers you less, the annoying rectangle or a screen protector.
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XO, BSE, SGP or something else?

Which will be the best screen protector? Which is the best based off your past experiences?
I am in the UK and willing to order from the US but I'm not sure which is the best. I still need to sell my unused XO from my Galaxy Nexus
UK here too. I've tried Zagg, Skinomi and BSE in the past. BSE are undoubtedly the best of those 3
I'm having trouble deciding on a screen protector as well, but I've always gotten the InvisibleSHIELD. I mostly do so because I can buy the full body skin (or any of the kits they sell), then take it to the mall and they'll apply it all free of charge. If they screw up (they never do), then they'll give me a brand new one. If it gets all scratched up, gets a bubble, or ANYTHING, I just take it to the mall (without a receipt or box or anything) and they'll replace it all totally free. If I screw up applying other protectors, I don't want to have to ship it back and wait for a new one. While others do sometimes have kiosks (from what I've heard), I have yet to actually see one. I've never minded the whole orange peel thing personally, so it doesn't really affect my decision by much. I just love their warranty in combination with the kiosks. It makes it very easy.
Another thing I'm worried about is this: If I get the full body kit, can I still use a case, or will the friction of putting the case on be enough to screw it up? Has anyone had this issue? Should I just get a front and back kit instead? I plan on using case with the phone to protect from drops and what not, I usually just get a Speck Candy Shell or something, although I'm a huge fan of the LifeProof cases since they look good and offer great protection (either or not they'll make a Nexus 4 case is a different story, I suppose).
BSE all the way
...already on order.
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How is the touch feeling of BSE ? Similar to glass or sticky like Zagg ?
They are all very similar. I usually go with Skinomi because of the price. I already pre-ordered it off Amazon.
I love XO skins. I just ordered one for the Nexus 4.
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sgp steinheil is the best it feels smooth like its not there but is extremly hard my nexus s has deep scratches on the screen protector that havent even touched the glass
The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
Well I don't know what kind of screen protectors you've been using but the ones I've used don't have any effect on the sensitivity of the touchscreen. I am careful with my stuff anyway but the small hairline scratches really annoy/bother me for some reason.
espionage724 said:
The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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Protection is absolutely necessary for me since I work in construction/maintenance
I personally love steinheil! ( SGP )
I'm going for Ghost Armor actually.
Your question is the best for the N4. But nobody has any of these screen protectors made for the N4, and only a couple really lucky people have the phone. None of the opinions in your poll are actually based on experience with this device and this protector. Wait until people start getting them and then look at reviews.
chrisjcks said:
BSE all the way
...already on order.
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where you order it??? Icant decide
I'm going with BSE because I've heard a lot of good things about them. Plus I like the wet apply idea. I've ALWAYS had problems with the sticky dry screen protectors. One little piece of fuzz or dust and you have annoying bubbles every where. And over time bits of fuzz/lint get up around the corners and it slowly starts to peel off.
espionage724 said:
The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter what you do. Before you know it you'll be in direct sunlight and you'll see all sorts of small little scratches. Then later, you'll always know they're there. I'm OCD about it. I can't stand having the tiny little scratches because I want my phone to stay new. I think the first time you put a phone in your pocket, it gets some sort of tiny little scratch from something.. then over time they build up and make the screen look aweful. Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.
I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......
XO Skins are the ones I have been using for a few years now. From what I have read xo and sgp are the only ones without orange peel. I don't know how the sgp do on curves though I posted a review of xo in my signature when I had the samsung google nexus
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Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.
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Exactly, all these videos of people dropping coins/keys on the phone are pointless. swipe over that phone just once with sand paper and its all over...
Emama said:
I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......
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Me too. I ordered some of these:
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/vikuiti-adqc27-screen-protector-google-nexus-4-126198.html
They were great on my G2 but it has a flat screen. I'll let people know after I get them. I will be disappointed if they don't properly stay on the screen.
What is this "Orange peel" that people are referring to?

How many of you with scratches on screen?

Hi people!
For those without screen protection, how many of you with scratches on screen of the S7 flat?
No scratches on my S7
No scratches on my S5 with not even a case for almost 2 years
its not bout scratches its bout how well you take care of your phone because it comes with gorilla glass 4 so it shgould last if you take care of it.
Gorilla Glass 4 my ass. I baby my phones and have never scratched a screen until this one. Super disappointed with GG4 or Samsung's implementation...
I also take care of my phones VERY much, and can see some scratches visible on sunlight after 3 months. I never put my phone with something that can scratch it. But then again, I saw those little scratches on every phone I had. Good thing about older phones is that it wasn't so freaking hard to find a screen protector
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I also take care of my phones VERY much, and can see some scratches visible on sunlight after 3 months. I never put my phone with something that can scratch it. But then again, I saw those little scratches on every phone I had. Good thing about older phones is that it wasn't so freaking hard to find a screen protector
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Tried Google?
Loads of S7 screen protectors
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Tried Google?
Loads of S7 screen protectors
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When U live in Serbia, ordering things is a pain in the.. Neck
I have a friend that works in a larger phone accessory shop here, and he said that none of the protectors they have are full screen or that they always have bubbles.
Have U tried any? Maybe a suggestion so I know which protectors are good for ordering online.
I have a galaxy alpha with gorilla glass 4, and also have the small scratches.
These small scratches come from sand,dirt,dust that is harder than the screen and rubs against your phone in your pocket, these small scratches are unavoidable without screenprotector.
But these are small so they don't bother me, what worries me more is the back glass which is not GG4 and scratches more easy.
Hi everyone.
I've owned a Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930W8 Exynos edition since release date. One day around month 3 I was removing the phone from my otter box case and with the littlest bit of flexing the back glass cracked horribly. I found this to be very annoying since this is supposed to be a "prime" quality phone with gorilla glass 4. I think it was more like gurly glass 4 as I bearly flexed the phone at all and am a very caring / gentle phone user and have owned many and never cracked a case/screen ever. My question is has anyone had broken glass, front or back replaced under samsungs warranty or am I crap outta luck? I called Samsung once and they said it's not covered. Since it was not outside of proper use I feel I was fed a line. Any help or suggestions? Very dissapointed in gorilla glass 4,and Samsung for placing it all over all sides of the gs7 in a very thin manner.
Makes me rethink if I'll ever purchase another Samsung again.
Discouraged and disappointed!
MrDusan said:
When U live in Serbia, ordering things is a pain in the.. Neck
I have a friend that works in a larger phone accessory shop here, and he said that none of the protectors they have are full screen or that they always have bubbles.
Have U tried any? Maybe a suggestion so I know which protectors are good for ordering online.
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Hard or rigid protectors can't cover the whole screen because the edge has a bevel. I got an anti-glare matte screen protector and it works great
southsideswaggar said:
Hi everyone.
I've owned a Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930W8 Exynos edition since release date. One day around month 3 I was removing the phone from my otter box case and with the littlest bit of flexing the back glass cracked horribly. I found this to be very annoying since this is supposed to be a "prime" quality phone with gorilla glass 4. I think it was more like gurly glass 4 as I bearly flexed the phone at all and am a very caring / gentle phone user and have owned many and never cracked a case/screen ever. My question is has anyone had broken glass, front or back replaced under samsungs warranty or am I crap outta luck? I called Samsung once and they said it's not covered. Since it was not outside of proper use I feel I was fed a line. Any help or suggestions? Very dissapointed in gorilla glass 4,and Samsung for placing it all over all sides of the gs7 in a very thin manner.
Makes me rethink if I'll ever purchase another Samsung again.
Discouraged and disappointed!
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Well those back panels can be bought for like 13 bucks and can be easy to replace but you will lose the waterproof tho.
featureza8336 said:
Hard or rigid protectors can't cover the whole screen because the edge has a bevel. I got an anti-glare matte screen protector and it works great
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Thanks for the tip!
But I don't really want a rigid protector, I mean, i have been using plastic film protectors on all my phones, because I'm very gentle with them and just want to keep them from small pocket scratches. I just need a full screen one that will go over those 2.5d edges of the glass. I also don't like those matte protectors, they totally mess up the screen quality
I had 3 years SG S4 and only one little scratch. After 3 days having S7 I have already weird "graze" (is it correct word in English?) . Is not visible when screen is clean but dirt always stay in the same place. I'm VERY disappointed. Also afraid about home button made of plastic !
My first S7 edge had a super Deep scratch right on the screen curve, stay that for awhile before it turn in a crack going across the screen.
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I bought a Fosmon screen protector for both mine and my wife's S7s and they fit really well. If you apply them correctly then you won't have any bubbles. I never use the guides or anything to put it on, I just go slowly and use a credit card to smooth out bumps. Cleaning your phone screen first with alcohol and a lint free wipe cuts down on anything left on the screen to cause bubbles.
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Well those back panels can be bought for like 13 bucks and can be easy to replace but you will lose the waterproof tho.
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That is not at all what I was asking. My question was has anybody had this issue and had it replaced under warranty? If so what did the process entail and what was said to get it done. I appreciate your comment as to boost your standings in the forums but if your info is not some of actual help you might wanna say nothing at all and let someone else answer the issue.
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That is not at all what I was asking. My question was has anybody had this issue and had it replaced under warranty? If so what did the process entail and what was said to get it done. I appreciate your comment as to boost your standings in the forums but if your info is not some of actual help you might wanna say nothing at all and let someone else answer the issue.
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Since you went hostile... You might wanna to stop being a **** and start your own thread, for your own issue, instead of hijacking this thread. You broke your phone and that isn't a warranty issue, which Samsung already explained to you. He offered you info the help you quickly & easily fix your phone for very little $.
As for screen scratches on my S7, I don't have any so far. No screen protector either. I guess it's probably nerdy, but I carry my phone in a Nite-Ize holster, on my belt, and never in my pocket. So far, I've never scratched a screen on any of my phones since the OG Droid. I had a screen protector on my OG Droid, for a few months, but that's been the only one I've used.
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That is not at all what I was asking. My question was has anybody had this issue and had it replaced under warranty? If so what did the process entail and what was said to get it done. I appreciate your comment as to boost your standings in the forums but if your info is not some of actual help you might wanna say nothing at all and let someone else answer the issue.
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What's your problem? Maybe you should just STFU then if you get mad bout people helping your dumb ass. You break your own phone and come in hete crying bout warranty while this treath is about scratches on the screen. So next time calm down or dont reply
Personally if your just using it day to day you wont see any scratches on your phone especially since the Galaxy S7 has gorilla glass 4. I would recommend a screen protector or even a glass screen protector if you are the type of person who chucks around their phone and doesn't really care about it.
You should be fine using it without a screen protector

Dust under screen

I haven't even had my Pixel for 2 months yet and already have a huge amount of dust inside the screen area.
It is NOT between the digitizer and screen protector, I peeled off and replaced the screen protector thinking that was the case but it is between the LCD and the digitizer!
I should note that I work in construction and I'm around dry wall dust all the time so I think it's drywall dust...
I'm just concerned that this is going to continue getting worse over time. I badly want to use compressed air to blow the dust out, but I'm afraid that attempting it will just blow more dust in.
Is there something defective about my phone or is it normal that it is apparently not sealed very well in the screen area?
I've had it in a case literally since day one, with a screen protector. I try to take good care of my phone's as I pay full retail so I don't lose my grandfathered unlimited data on VZW so I'm kind of upset that I'm going to have to replace my phone in a year when I can't see the screen anymore, not to mention a huge hit in the resale value of horribly dusty phone internals.
Anyone else having dust problems or should I try to contact Google?
Thanks all.
jake5253 said:
I haven't even had my Pixel for 2 months yet and already have a huge amount of dust inside the screen area.
It is NOT between the digitizer and screen protector, I peeled off and replaced the screen protector thinking that was the case but it is between the LCD and the digitizer!
I should note that I work in construction and I'm around dry wall dust all the time so I think it's drywall dust...
I'm just concerned that this is going to continue getting worse over time. I badly want to use compressed air to blow the dust out, but I'm afraid that attempting it will just blow more dust in.
Is there something defective about my phone or is it normal that it is apparently not sealed very well in the screen area?
I've had it in a case literally since day one, with a screen protector. I try to take good care of my phone's as I pay full retail so I don't lose my grandfathered unlimited data on VZW so I'm kind of upset that I'm going to have to replace my phone in a year when I can't see the screen anymore, not to mention a huge hit in the resale value of horribly dusty phone internals.
Anyone else having dust problems or should I try to contact Google?
Thanks all.
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I definitely think you should try to contact google or the case manufacturer if it claims dust protection.
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I definitely think you should try to contact google or the case manufacturer if it claims dust protection.
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Just as a follow-up to this..
I contacted Google about the dust issue, which has since gotten worse, and I just received an RMA number today.
They want me to factory reset and send the device in and they are (I'm assuming) just going to replace it with a new one.
I explained that I ordered the phone from someone else who had originally ordered it directly from Google.
They also confirmed I will be receiving a Google version of the phone (unlockable BL) and not a Verizon (Locked BL) version (Unlockable like the one I have)
I was told that the phone is "dust resistant" and that this is seemed strange to them, especially being that the phone is less than 2 months old. They actually specifically said "[they] were glad brought this issue to their attention" which kind of makes me think perhaps there is/was something weird with production on some batches?
Next I'll be buying a new case which boasts "Water & Dust Proof" and hoping that it's not incredibly bulky and has muffled audio as many dust/water-proof cases experience.
If anyone else experiences dust buildup under the digitizer, I highly recommend contacting Google and getting your device repaired/replaced. They included a pre-paid postage label and everything so its quite a painless procedure, outside of having to switch back to my S5 for a week or so.
Just my two cents since you're going to be looking for a new case. I've had mine in an OtterBox commuter case since the day I bought it and have had no issues with dust or damage. I use mine as a flashlight for attic/basement crawls as well as toss it in drywall dust piles constantly. I'm pretty hard on it and I've had zero issues. It's not as slim as I'd like of a case but it's not too bulky and seems to protect pretty good.
fritzgerald said:
Just my two cents since you're going to be looking for a new case. I've had mine in an OtterBox commuter case since the day I bought it and have had no issues with dust or damage. I use mine as a flashlight for attic/basement crawls as well as toss it in drywall dust piles constantly. I'm pretty hard on it and I've had zero issues. It's not as slim as I'd like of a case but it's not too bulky and seems to protect pretty good.
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Perfect! Thanks for the recommendation. I'll see what I can find online. I have a few days before my new phone will be here so I will get one ordered so I can get my phone back in a case as soon as it arrives.
Do you also have a standalone screen protector on yours or does the OtterBox provide a built-in screen protector?
jake5253 said:
Perfect! Thanks for the recommendation. I'll see what I can find online. I have a few days before my new phone will be here so I will get one ordered so I can get my phone back in a case as soon as it arrives.
Do you also have a standalone screen protector on yours or does the OtterBox provide a built-in screen protector?
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The defender comes with a screen protector but the case is huge. The commuter does not come with one. I used one of those tempered glass protectors for about a day but didn't like how the edges didn't stick fully down so I took it off and have been running naked since about November and no noticable scratches. If you have a Verizon store close by they should stock the commuter.

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