No phone calls in Basement ? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just curious if it is a standard smartphone issue, with poor service, or none at all down in Basements ? I know the cell phone uses radio waves, and that does not travel through steel beams or concrete too well, if at all, right ?
Funny thing is, I can send and receive texts with little problems down here in my Basement office, but making or getting calls are like 10% at best, or just not happening period. Is that more of a T-Mobile issue, or just that my nuclear bomb proof shelter I built to prepare for end days in 2012 the problem ? lol

Zorachus said:
Just curious if it is a standard smartphone issue, with poor service, or none at all down in Basements ? I know the cell phone uses radio waves, and that does not travel through steel beams or concrete too well, if at all, right ?
Funny thing is, I can text about 75% or better, down here in my Basement office, but making or getting calls are like 10% at best, or just not happening period. Is that more of a T-Mobile issue, or just that my nuclear bomb proof shelter I built to prepare for end days in 2012 the problem ? lol
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If your in a basement surrounded by concrete walls then ya your going to have some signal issues, but to make it worse Tmobile has horrible building penetration

slowz3r said:
If your in a basement surrounded by concrete walls then ya your going to have some signal issues, but to make it worse Tmobile has horrible building penetration
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Yeah right behind me is the 8' tall concrete exterior wall. And no windows here in Office.
Texting seems to be pretty darn good, sending and receiving no issue, but calls are the opposite, like nonexistent. With my EVO on Sprint, it was better for phone calls, not perfect by any means, But I would say 50% on calls.
But I do like my Nexus-S better than the EVO. Just the lightweight and compact form factor of the N-S is so sweet. The EVO now feels like a heavy thick brick, and that battery sucked balls on the EVO. And I love the Super AMOLED screen, looks so colorful. I like the 4" screen sixe, not too small like iPhone 3.5", and not overly large like the EVO 4.3".
But Sprint was perfect service for me, I mean 99.99% perfect, and T-Mobile is like 80% good, and my old iPhone3G on ATT was craptastic at like 50% for service.

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Yeah right behind me is the 8' tall concrete exterior wall. And no windows here in Office.
Texting seems to be pretty darn good, sending and receiving no issue, but calls are the opposite, like nonexistent.
With my EVO on Sprint, it was better for phone calls, not perfect by any means, But I would say 50% on calls.
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ya, Tmobile has major issues when it comes to signal penetration

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ya, Tmobile has major issues when it comes to signal penetration
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Is that something that can be updated with better towers or something ? Or is it a hardware issue on the radio inside all their phones, and I am just stuck with **** Basement service.
Does T-Mobile sell a device that can boost their signal inside buildings ? Or is that super expensive for corporations only ?
Time to crawl out of the bomb proof shelter once in awhile I guess

The only time I've had problems with T-Mobile was at my university in our student union building, which was basically a maze of concrete and cinderblock hallways.

The frequencies t-mobile uses for 3g is very high up in the spectrum which has poor building penetration properties. Lower is better, like 850mHz. Nothing you can do about it.

Zorachus said:
Just curious if it is a standard smartphone issue, with poor service, or none at all down in Basements ? I know the cell phone uses radio waves, and that does not travel through steel beams or concrete too well, if at all, right ?
Funny thing is, I can send and receive texts with little problems down here in my Basement office, but making or getting calls are like 10% at best, or just not happening period. Is that more of a T-Mobile issue, or just that my nuclear bomb proof shelter I built to prepare for end days in 2012 the problem ? lol
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General rule of thumb is that if zombies and Nazis can't get to you, you probably wont get good signal.
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Getting flack from friends for switching

They all are saying AT&T is evil, I'm crazy blah blah vampire emergency blah...
OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE????
Seriously. All Cellular carriers in the US are evil. Just in different ways. Why all the AT&T hate? Where's the gotchas?
Are they paying for your phone or wireless bill?
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Are they paying for your phone or wireless bill?
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Ditto. Plenty of people have legitimate reasons to complain about AT&T (dropped calls, lack of coverage, etc) but plenty of people have never had a single issue with them. Personally I just switched to AT&T for the Captivate (formerly with T-Mobile) and I've been happy so far. I get at least the same if not better coverage and my bill is actually cheaper thanks to a 21% discount from my employer.
it's fashionable to hate at&t. If you listened to these people, at&t would have worse coverage than tmobile. Anyone who's ever owned both outside of a major metro area knows that's a joke.
AT&T issues are market-based and are not universal. If any of your "friends" are iPhone 4 users, their problems are universal.
i dont have any real complaints with service anymore (one perk of the iphone)
but i dont think ive had one single interaction with att that they didnt mess up (ex. adding a line and putting a messaging block on the whole account. wtf?)
I was one of those that had trouble with at&t. I had each iPhone generation, and all 3g versions would drop calls. Now I will say I worked for apple retail at the genius bar for this time period, and it was all to frequent in terms of customers complaining. I bought the hype that it was at&T's sucky network causing all the issues.
Then the iPhone 4 hit. I had one. Returned it due to lack of satisfaction with he fix for the search grip as well as the proximity sensor issue. I immediately went and got the captivate.
I haven't dropped a single call since. Not one. Even in areas that were guaranteed to drop on 3 successive generations of iPhone. I have yet to have any issue.
That tells me something.
That I will not go back. No matter what.
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I haven't dropped a single call since. Not one. Even in areas that were guaranteed to drop on 3 successive generations of iPhone. I have yet to have any issue.
That tells me something.
That I will not go back. No matter what.
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Same, my wife and I were disgusted with our iPhone 3Gs, both dropped calls and limited customization, and poor performance with the iOS 4 update. It was so bad we thought it was AT&T's network and were contemplating on switching carriers. I decided to try out the Captivate, and it's been awesome.
And your buddies are jealous, that's all
id10terrordfw said:
I was one of those that had trouble with at&t. I had each iPhone generation, and all 3g versions would drop calls. Now I will say I worked for apple retail at the genius bar for this time period, and it was all to frequent in terms of customers complaining. I bought the hype that it was at&T's sucky network causing all the issues.
Then the iPhone 4 hit. I had one. Returned it due to lack of satisfaction with he fix for the search grip as well as the proximity sensor issue. I immediately went and got the captivate.
I haven't dropped a single call since. Not one. Even in areas that were guaranteed to drop on 3 successive generations of iPhone. I have yet to have any issue.
That tells me something.
That I will not go back. No matter what.
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My experience is similar. I have had at&t for years.i never had a problem with them until I had an iphone. The three I had dropped calls constantly. Now I have the captivate and at&t is great again.
thanks all. You'll never get a die hard apple fanboi to admit the iphone problems are problems with the phone. Thanks for the positive stories
Yeah, when I had my first gen iPhone, I occasionally dropped calls and just generally had bad quality. I figured it was AT&T's infamous network. I almost switched carriers, but I was prepaid at that time and had built up nearly a 500 dollar balance on my account, so I didn't want to lose that. So, I gave the Blackberry Bold (9000) a try - turns out it was the iPhone all along. I got great reception and fantastic call quality on my Bold.
I haven't made many calls with my Captivate - frankly, the voice/phone portion of my cellphone is fairly low on my priorities - but while it doesn't really seem to quite be up to the level of my Bold, it's still far ahead of my iPhone.
Same story here.
Had a WinMo phone for years (HTC Hermes) then switched to iPhone, started dropping calls, and losing data. It wasn't too big, and at about the same time I moved into a basement apt. I chalked it up to all the concrete that I could not talk on the phone when home. We moved again, and on my commute to and from work there were 3 spots that would lose signal EVERY time. Calls would drop, Pandora would stop playing, etc. Then I got my HTC Aria, same commute, far fewer dropped calls, then my Captivate (day 30 of my Aria return window) and haven't dropped a call since on the commute. AT&T having network issues? I think not.
I am giddy at the chance of a Verizon iPhone, so all the people complaining about AT&T will see that the iPhone on any network sucks.
I've had at&t for years, because until recently it was all we had I'm my area that was any count at all. Recently Verizon has moved in, and I did consider switching because of hardware choices. But I waited it out, and decided to go ahead with my Captivate, and I'm loving it. My friends all have iPhones and so did I. I never had the problems that they seem to have, but I'm happier now anyway being away from the tyranny of Steve Jobs.
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i had to switch to at&t because of work. i do a lot of international travel and at&t's list of countries is about 5x bigger than any other carrier for reduced roaming rates. and GSM is more universal and i didn't want verizon's blackberry offerings.
i had minor issues with call drops, but that's because i'm usually in large metal/concrete airplane hangers.
so far though, no issues with captive. even with one bar, no call quality issues either in the states...or as of so far hong kong.
oh and my entire office but 2 others have iphones and i got nothing but flack for not getting one. glad i didn't
I have been with ATT since 1998 and the only issues I have ever had with dropped calls was with the following phones since the Cingular/ATT Merger: Nokia N-Gage QD, Motorola V551 *just close to my house*, Motorola V3 *close to my house and when the phone was at the end of its life*, Samsung Sync *bought it used of fleabay worst cell ever*, Nokia N55 *would drop in typical black hole areas*, Motorola Razr2 *POS never could get a good voice call on it no matter what area I was in*, Blackberry Curve 8300 *dropped calls in blackhole areas*, BB 8310 *same as 8300*, BB Bold 9000 Same as the previous BBs, and now the Captivate *same as the BB in terms of dropped calls which equals about 2 dropped calls in the past 5 weeks or so*...
Now funny thing when I talk to a couple of my friends who actually have the iPhone, they drop randomly and it is pretty funny where I dont have the issue with my Captivate. Even my friend who is also a snake breeder *boas, pythons and other snakes*, told me today he likes his iPhone 3G besides the dropping call issue and asked me how Android is treating me, I said I love it and not going back to BB...
HTH,
Charlie
Gunny, wtf Re you doing here in the ATT phone section? Shouldn't you be in the Hero section? >¦(
LOL
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LOL notasimpleway. Got tired of having an out of date phone and super slow EVDO.

For those considering jumping ship to Verizon, and or getting iPhone on Verizon...

Here's an interesting article and video to check out. Brings up several points to consider before making that decision...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_techn...ife-reasons-to-hold-off-on-the-verizon-iphone
thanks for the tip, chatting and surfing at the same time = big issue
Good info but what does this have to do with the captivate?
Why would anyone on AT&T go to Verizon for the iPhone?
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Good info but what does this have to do with the captivate?
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Lancered said:
Why would anyone on AT&T go to Verizon for the iPhone?
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Thanks for the link in the op. I've been hearing a lot about this lately.
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Good info but what does this have to do with the captivate?
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Lancered said:
Why would anyone on AT&T go to Verizon for the iPhone?
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I was wondering the same thing. Not like we couldn't get an iPhone if we wanted...
What this has to do with captivate...
There has been plenty of closet apple fanboys that are current captivate owners posting on this forum about how much better iphone is. So this is mainly for them.
Also, this is good information to know if you are considering going from AT&T to Verizon, because plenty of people on here complain how much AT&T sucks. The grass is always greener on the other side...until you start comparing facts instead of speculation and conspiracy theories. The information passed through that article is just an FYI, some things you should know and consider, so that you can make a well informed decision.
And again, hince, the title of this thread...for those considering...
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What this has to do with captivate...
There has been plenty of closet apple fanboys that are current captivate owners posting on this forum about how much better iphone is. So this is mainly for them.
Also, this is good information to know if you are considering going from AT&T to Verizon, because plenty of people on here complain how much AT&T sucks. The grass is always greener on the other side...until you start comparing facts instead of speculation and conspiracy theories. The information passed through that article is just an FYI, some things you should know and consider, so that you can make a well informed decision.
And again, hince, the title of this thread...for those considering...
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All cell phone companies suck.......some just more than others.In my area...with all of the over lapping coverages...the ones with the biggest dead zones is Verizon then Sprint...and I have had more issue with both of them,for customer service issues as well...these issues to the point of canceling service and changing carriers...all within 1 year too...
As to the OP...I had this type of discussion/debate last night at work with some heavy duty Verizon fan boys (co-workers)...They all saying AT&T had the worst coverage around and the worst customer satisfaction scores...let alone the crappiest phones...Most everything on paper was compared...but it's funny how things like this are compared...something someone wrote in a review being taken as gospel by JQP...That is till real world testing is done before their very eyes...and even then...the disbelief and excuses ensue...
Speed test...that almost shut them up right there...When compared...the best they could muster standing side by side was 314 kbps down...mine hit 5997 kbps down... This is with all of theirs showing 2&3 bars while 1 other was on Sprints 4g network...and my lowly rooted Captivate running it's custom I-9000 rom... was at full strength (duh)...Their admiration of just how good their cell coverage was their main stay...and was very compelling to those who didn't understand anything about it after all...it said so in the review article they had prepared before my arrival and the basis of their Damming Proof......Their main argument was saying AT&T cell coverage sucks a big one where I work and in the surrounding areas......and "after all "...the real test of any phone was how good a signal their phones got...and how they could talk anytime anywhere when no-one else couldn't..( again...this is widely reported as a major issue with these phones...per the article/review )...so...just to prove I didn't have any issues with my coverage except for a couple of places inside where any realistic person would know cell coverage was next to impossible..(lead lined areas...massive electrical equipment interference ) It was suggested...just to prove them right.. how ineffective my phone was under normal circumstances...so we all got on a elevator on the 18 floor and rode it down 2 stories below ground to the lower level......mine was the only one still working...and could still manage to make calls...until we moved into a dead area...as mentioned above...It's rather funny...though extremely anemic on their part... how they changed tactics after that brief demonstration...and how it was lamented that I tampered with the phone to make it as good as it is...
Granted...while that aspect is true enough...I asked them..what their point was and what their objections were...and the warranty issue was first and foremost their main thing...and since I wasn't going to bother flashing back to stock to prove my point that that was irrelevant..the conversation ended...and they felt vindicated in some manner...as most fan-boys grasp at the most anemic excuses to prove their point...let alone realize their arguments have no merit...
Moral of the story...My Captivate is the best phone I have ever owned...and the sheep people will never know the benefits to having a truly unlocked phone...and only buy and use what they are sold as is...Fan-boys will believe what ever drivel is spoon fed them and never admit they have been deceived....and...the most important thing...all cell phone companies suck...some...just more than others...and of course YMMV...
Mac
why warn them
let darwinism take its course
only way they will truly learn that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
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all cell phone companies suck.......some just more than others.in my area...with all of the over lapping coverages...the ones with the biggest dead zones is verizon then sprint...and i have had more issue with both of them,for customer service issues as well...these issues to the point of canceling service and changing carriers...all within 1 year too...
As to the op...i had this type of discussion/debate last night at work with some heavy duty verizon fan boys (co-workers)...they all saying at&t had the worst coverage around and the worst customer satisfaction scores...let alone the crappiest phones...most everything on paper was compared...but it's funny how things like this are compared...something someone wrote in a review being taken as gospel by jqp...that is till real world testing is done before their very eyes...and even then...the disbelief and excuses ensue...
Speed test...that almost shut them up right there...when compared...the best they could muster standing side by side was 314 kbps down...mine hit 5997 kbps down... This is with all of theirs showing 2&3 bars while 1 other was on sprints 4g network...and my lowly rooted captivate running it's custom i-9000 rom... Was at full strength (duh)...their admiration of just how good their cell coverage was their main stay...and was very compelling to those who didn't understand anything about it after all...it said so in the review article they had prepared before my arrival and the basis of their damming proof......their main argument was saying at&t cell coverage sucks a big one where i work and in the surrounding areas......and "after all "...the real test of any phone was how good a signal their phones got...and how they could talk anytime anywhere when no-one else couldn't..( again...this is widely reported as a major issue with these phones...per the article/review )...so...just to prove i didn't have any issues with my coverage except for a couple of places inside where any realistic person would know cell coverage was next to impossible..(lead lined areas...massive electrical equipment interference ) it was suggested...just to prove them right.. How ineffective my phone was under normal circumstances...so we all got on a elevator on the 18 floor and rode it down 2 stories below ground to the lower level......mine was the only one still working...and could still manage to make calls...until we moved into a dead area...as mentioned above...it's rather funny...though extremely anemic on their part... How they changed tactics after that brief demonstration...and how it was lamented that i tampered with the phone to make it as good as it is...:d
granted...while that aspect is true enough...i asked them..what their point was and what their objections were...and the warranty issue was first and foremost their main thing...and since i wasn't going to bother flashing back to stock to prove my point that that was irrelevant..the conversation ended...and they felt vindicated in some manner...as most fan-boys grasp at the most anemic excuses to prove their point...let alone realize their arguments have no merit...
Moral of the story...my captivate is the best phone i have ever owned...and the sheep people will never know the benefits to having a truly unlocked phone...and only buy and use what they are sold as is...fan-boys will believe what ever drivel is spoon fed them and never admit they have been deceived....and...the most important thing...all cell phone companies suck...some...just more than others...and of course ymmv...
Mac
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bames said:
why warn them
let darwinism take its course
only way they will truly learn that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
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The ad at the end of that video made me LOL! An app that lets u see (uses your phones camera) where ur going while you text! lol is that for reals??
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I'm no Verizon fanboy but I definitely see some bias, tactical mudslinging and slippery slope fallacies here.

[Q][SPRINT] Major issues with reception vs HTC Evo

Just got in the new Samsung Nexus S from Sprint and I've noticed some major issues in reception versus the HTC Evo from Sprint as well. I'm seeing a 2+ bar difference in the exact location sitting next to the Evo on the same Sprint network.
Is anybody having this issue? Or does anybody know of a fix.
I have the latest firmware (suggested fix by Sprint) and have seen several complaints about it on other less developer friendly forums.
If I can't come up with a solution soon, I think I'll have to get an Evo. But if you guys can understand, I'd prefer to keep the phone that will get timely updates.
Thanks ahead of time for any suggestions!
You can't compare signal across different devices based on "bars". Check the actual signal strength in Menu > Settings > About Phone.
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I know you need dB... As soon as I can get the Evo next to me again for a comparison, I will post.
I'm a tech savvy guy, run a computer building company and build websites. I even develop some entry-level apps for a few clients (yes entry-level).
If one googles "spring nexus s reception," they'll find that this issue is quite common. I'm just curious as to whether it's hopeless or not.
I know I can petition for the Airave with Sprint and can at least get decent service at home.
It just seems peculiar to me that Google would endorse an inferior product. I live in a major Metropolitan area (DMA has it as a top 25 market - for those who aren't in the media business, that means it's one of the top 25 sized cities in the country). And this phone gets dismal reception.
Fact is, Evo does great in my house, Nexus S does not. I've heard some pretty bad reviews with the Galaxy S line of hardware so I'm figuring it's worth moving to the Evo.
To be honest, this phone is far superior (at the moment) with responsiveness and usability but if a phone can't operate well at being a phone, it's a waste of money. Especially if the hardware is inferior (phone-wise) to most of what HTC released a year ago. I love having a mini-computer in my pocket but I did aim at having a working phone.
Thoughts? Suggestions? School me? I will post the exact numbers when they again are available, until then, please only offer up friendly advice or questions. I am willing to try anything before taking this thing back.
You have not really described your issue. Do you have dropped calls or what?
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I'm having issues with the Sprint Nexus S reception as well. Although my home location on Sprint's coverage map lists my area from medium to strong with 4G available right around the corner from my house I have dismal reception with the Nexus S. I had a trial EVO for a few weeks and reception was much better in the same area. If I try to call the Nexus S I often go right to voicemail, I'm told calls out (when I can) are choppy, data signal is often listed as 1x as opposed to 3g. Is it just this particular phone? Should I go to a Sprint store to have it tested?
There is atl least one thread over at the Sprint Message boards about bad reception on the Nexus S.
At work we have a repeater and the signal still only shows at one or two bars most of the time but data speeds seemed fine to me and I had no problem with making and getting calls.
No one else is having this issue?
This isn't the first post about this subject. I understand and agree. I'm not 100% sure about this when it comes to cell phones but different companies with different radios will give you different signals. If this is the same as two way radios, there's no standard on say how much signal equals one bar on the meter. Even the programs that give the signal strength in numbers, aren't universally accurate. When it comes to received signal, its how you can hear it, not really what the meter says. That number can easily be manipulated. A receiver sensitivity can be adjusted too but there are things that are thrown out too. Crank up the receive and you get more noise than distinguishing signal and adjacent frequency rejection goes to crap. You can work the receiver to have good rejection and sensitivity but you are making it more deaf too.
What I'm getting at is don't always go by what the signal meter says and take it as 100% truth. It is a good indicator of signal but not absolutely 100% accurate.
I am sitting about twenty feet from my router and yet the meter is telling me 50% signal which I know is bull****.
are you up to date?
Yobye, are you on 2.3.4? I have heard the update fixes some people's signal/radio issues.
yobyeknom said:
I'm having issues with the Sprint Nexus S reception as well. Although my home location on Sprint's coverage map lists my area from medium to strong with 4G available right around the corner from my house I have dismal reception with the Nexus S. I had a trial EVO for a few weeks and reception was much better in the same area. If I try to call the Nexus S I often go right to voicemail, I'm told calls out (when I can) are choppy, data signal is often listed as 1x as opposed to 3g. Is it just this particular phone? Should I go to a Sprint store to have it tested?
There is atl least one thread over at the Sprint Message boards about bad reception on the Nexus S.
At work we have a repeater and the signal still only shows at one or two bars most of the time but data speeds seemed fine to me and I had no problem with making and getting calls.
No one else is having this issue?
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Ditto on this. Have all the latest updates. Think it may be time to trade in for the Evo.
I am on 2.3.4. I brought home another Sprint phone from work - a Sanyo Taho and got about the same terrible reception despite the fact I'm in a Sprint Best Coverage area on their map. I miss and drop calls and can't get voice or data connection - send mms, etc from my home. I've contacted Sprint about the tower strength in my neighborhood.

[Q] Signal Strength issues?

So I really like my Atrix 2, however i've noticed that my signal strength isn't nearly as good as it has been been with my last couple phones, OLD Moto Q9h and a TP2 (yes this is my first Android phone so that could be part of it). I was wondering if anyone else had seen any issues with it. I've been using it in the exact same places as the other two phones and the number of bars seem to differ greatly, actually sitting in the same spot as i do everyday, it jumps around a lot.
I know with other phones (WM6.5) there were Radios that would make a difference, is there something similar to that for Android phones and will i have to wait till the bootloader? If anyone can help out it would be much appreciated.
Hoso said:
So I really like my Atrix 2, however i've noticed that my signal strength isn't nearly as good as it has been been with my last couple phones, OLD Moto Q9h and a TP2 (yes this is my first Android phone so that could be part of it). I was wondering if anyone else had seen any issues with it. I've been using it in the exact same places as the other two phones and the number of bars seem to differ greatly, actually sitting in the same spot as i do everyday, it jumps around a lot.
I know with other phones (WM6.5) there were Radios that would make a difference, is there something similar to that for Android phones and will i have to wait till the bootloader? If anyone can help out it would be much appreciated.
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You can't compare "bars" between different model phones. I have zero problems with my A2. If anything it's consistently better than the iP4 it replaced.
Compare by dBm my two phones side by side show the same signal strength.
Atrix 2| Backflip
-95dBm | -95dBm
Never had a dropped call or even static, fuzziness, or weak signal indoors and outdoors. Probably the best out of all of my phones i've had so far.
Mine has same dead spot as my ip4 in my house.
Id be very irritated if my house had a deadspot at all >.<
I've had no problems with mine at all. Personally I think it picks up better then my OG did
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Id be very irritated if my house had a deadspot at all >.<
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No doubt!!
My wife says I come through much clearer than with my old iphone 3gs.
Seems moderately better, but not miraculous.
JRW 28 said:
I've had no problems with mine at all. Personally I think it picks up better then my OG did
No doubt!!
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I have 2. One in sun room other on Toilet <real downer
ghettopops said:
I have 2. One in sun room other on Toilet <real downer
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Now you figure the sun room would be opposite LoL. As for the toilet, no, no, as much as I drop phones I can see that outcome really well

Holding phone degrades signal

My phone is on 5G and I'm not in a great area for it. I've noticed that when I hold the phone, the signal strength degrades.
My signal:
Not holding the phone: -106dBm, 34asu
Holding the phone: 117dBm, 23asu - 121dBm, 19asu
Is it normal for this phone to be so affected simply being held?
I really wish that I could just shut off the 5G but that doesn't appear to be possible on the Verizon variant. Maybe I'll go to the Verizon store and get a 4G sim card. I've always lived in a marginal area and 4G wasn't much better where I live, but it did seem a little more stable.
Thanks
Well it's the phone antennas and the design so no matter what signal it is, it's going to be affected.
My Samsung's have always had the worse signal, I use multiple phones.
coilbio said:
Well it's the phone antennas and the design so no matter what signal it is, it's going to be affected.
My Samsung's have always had the worse signal, I use multiple phones.
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What phones have you had that have had good antennas? I'm tired of marginal signal issues and I'd really like something that works well for once. Thanks.
One plus by far has the best singnals, that's my talking phone. then my pixel 4xl always gets calls I miss on my n20u. My xperia 1 gets great gsm signals but crappy 4g because it's bands, but better talking signal than my n20u
coilbio said:
One plus by far has the best singnals, that's my talking phone. then my pixel 4xl always gets calls I miss on my n20u. My xperia 1 gets great gsm signals but crappy 4g because it's bands, but better talking signal than my n20u
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I have had S3, Note 4, Note 8, and then this. They've all been pretty poor for signals. I guess I don't learn easily. :laugh:
usmaak said:
I have had S3, Note 4, Note 8, and then this. They've all been pretty poor for signals. I guess I don't learn easily. :laugh:
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I have every note from the 8 on. They've been my favorite phones except for the signal issues. And they all have had it.
coilbio said:
I have every note from the 8 on. They've been my favorite phones except for the signal issues. And they all have had it.
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They should give everyone signal boosters for home. Of course with wifi and wifi calling, I guess it matters less. :laugh:
Back on the S3, they gave me a refurb 3G signal booster because I couldn't keep a signal in my old house. That thing is less useful than a paperweight now.
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Well it's the phone antennas and the design so no matter what signal it is, it's going to be affected.
My Samsung's have always had the worse signal, I use multiple phones.
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Yep same here. Huawei and OnePlus are stellar in that category from my own recent findings.
When it comes to antennas. They did test om phones who leaks most radio waves that is dangerous to body and phone that leaked barley any was Samsung galaxy phones but ones that leaked most was one plus if I remembered it right and that is not good for our bodies when having the phone in chest pocket or in pants pocket since these raidowaves are dangerous and can be cancer cause or something towards our body.
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When it comes to antennas. They did test om phones who leaks most radio waves that is dangerous to body and phone that leaked barley any was Samsung galaxy phones but ones that leaked most was one plus if I remembered it right and that is not good for our bodies when having the phone in chest pocket or in pants pocket since these raidowaves are dangerous and can be cancer cause or something towards our body.
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Were bombarded by radio waves way stronger than the miniscule ones phones generate.
It is a cellular phone, it might as well work.
Either way for a phone to be sold it must pass radiation and interfere tests, so leaking out isn't real, it's called keeping the signal.
Jake.S said:
When it comes to antennas. They did test om phones who leaks most radio waves that is dangerous to body and phone that leaked barley any was Samsung galaxy phones but ones that leaked most was one plus if I remembered it right and that is not good for our bodies when having the phone in chest pocket or in pants pocket since these raidowaves are dangerous and can be cancer cause or something towards our body.
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And if you're young and verile don't put the phone near your crotch pocket area .just a tip.

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