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New G tablet user have question

Hey guys,
I got my g tablet yesterday at sears.
I really interested to get the vegan mod it looks very cool. I'm new on these stuffs.
as you know VS just released a new update and I did update my device.
my questions are:
1-if I flash my g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 mods am I able to re flash my g tablet to the stock UI again? for example if VC release new update am I able to go back to the stock mod and update my device with this update?
2- after flashing g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 do I need to root the device to be able to access to full system file of it will be already rooted after flash it with any of vegan or TnT 2.2?
Thank you

if you install a new rom:
1. you will not want to go back to stock TapNTap provided by ViewSonic
2. You will not need to root your device, as the custom roms are already rooted

Actually, you can go back to stock Tap N Tap, using nvflash. See this post from Roebeet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861950
However, the updates from Viewsonic will always get torn down by Roebeet, Rothnic and other developers here and will be repackaged as a TNT Lite build within 24 hours of Viewsonic's release, so there's not much of a reason to go back to stock, especially when TNT Lite is basically superior in every way (at least, most of us find it so).

The Ringmaster said:
if you install a new rom:
1. you will not want to go back to stock TapNTap provided by ViewSonic
2. You will not need to root your device, as the custom roms are already rooted
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Thank you for reply. so if I use the custom rom will be able to get VS updates without re flash it to stock?

beepoo83 said:
Thank you for reply. so if I use the custom rom will be able to get VS updates without re flash it to stock?
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No you will not be able to get the VS updates as that is some of the removed sections in the Lite version. The reason was posted. The update manager sends your MAC address to the update servers very frequently in the clear.
However if you do keep the stock ROM you can always re-flash the device if you find the OEM ROM better. I will be shocked if you were to find that as the TNT Lite, and the Vegan are superior in every way to the the STOCK ROM.

beepoo83 said:
Hey guys,
I got my g tablet yesterday at sears.
I really interested to get the vegan mod it looks very cool. I'm new on these stuffs.
as you know VS just released a new update and I did update my device.
my questions are:
1-if I flash my g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 mods am I able to re flash my g tablet to the stock UI again? for example if VC release new update am I able to go back to the stock mod and update my device with this update?
2- after flashing g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 do I need to root the device to be able to access to full system file of it will be already rooted after flash it with any of vegan or TnT 2.2?
Thank you
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It's fairly easy to go back, if needed. We also post all the latest firmware updates from TnT (even if they don't - still don't know why they don't offer them). See the FAQ in my sig for the vanilla ROM locations, and instructions on how to use them.
I made the decision to pull the over-the-air updater from TnT Lite, with the first release. From a security standpoint, phoning home in the clear with my mac address is a terrible idea. If Apple or MS did this, for example, the tech blogs would eat them alive. We usually grab the firmware updates pretty fast and post them. ie. the latest one is already posted.

Sorry for the newb question, but a search came up empty. Should I choose Vegan over TNT lite, is the install procedure the same? I see the step-by-step install guide for TNT lite, but wonder if Vegan requires different steps.
Thanks in advance!!!

festivus said:
Sorry for the newb question, but a search came up empty. Should I choose Vegan over TNT lite, is the install procedure the same? I see the step-by-step install guide for TNT lite, but wonder if Vegan requires different steps.
Thanks in advance!!!
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If you install clockwork recovery you can easily try all the roms I have been using the vegan b3 release I like it but I use dolphin HD and skyfire browsers I don't like the native browser. Also I have used the tnt roms they are good too but as of lately really like vegan rom also if you back up your rom after you install you can compare stock vs custom. vegan roms download to PC drag to SD card rename update (at least on my vista PC) boot into recovery select apply update.zip and your good to go

What size SD card is required to fash with. I just picked up a GTablet for my wife for Christmas and want it running as flawless as possible before giving it to her.
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Any as long as it can fit the 100MB+ Rom. The micro SD is used incase you screw up an need to reflash to stock. This happened to me, the external memory helped me fix it.
Oh and thank you Roebeet for your hardworking on the roms you and everyone/anyone that helped you make this device incredible!

So the TnT lite rom is 100mb?
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Just ordered a Gtab, what to do first?

I've been lurking these forums for months for my rooted Droid 1 and have recently been interested in a tab. I placed a order on the GTab (my first Tab) based on the awesome support here at XDA. My question is: Should I let the tab update itself and then flash clockwork/rom on to the device or root immediately? I will obviously do a backup right after she's rooted and before a rom is flashed. One more thing: Doing a wipe will remove all traces of TapNTap right?

You can install clockwork with out rooting. Tnt lite, zpad, and Vegan roms will give you root and gapps. You can install the performance pack on top of the latest Viewsonic update (3389) and will give you root and gapps. The only way to to get rid of TapnTap is to flash another rom. TntLite is based on TapNTap so some traces remain. (browser, settings) But the dashboard is gone.

So i should let it update on it's own before modifying it? I got another one: I've purchased maybe 5 apps on my phone, will i be able to get those on the Gtab for free if i log in under my Gmail account?

If your gonna flash clockword and modify it then don't update. You can always flash the current Viewsonic firmware later if you want. With the exception of a few apps you can download your apps. Sometimes you have to do the market fix a couple times for all the apps to show. Your paid apps are tied to your Gmail so they will be downloadable on your tab

thebadfrog said:
If your gonna flash clockword and modify it then don't update. You can always flash the current Viewsonic firmware later if you want. With the exception of a few apps you can download your apps. Sometimes you have to do the market fix a couple times for all the apps to show. Your paid apps are tied to your Gmail so they will be downloadable on your tab
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Sweet.. I figured they would be linked to my Gmail but wanted to be sure. Thanks!

[Q] All I want to do is go back to stock rom :(

I did one flash...to TNT version 4xx, and I loved it...but I'm finding I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything so I think my original files are history
I know there are lots of threads, and I tried to follow one about snagging a rom and moving it to the Root and all it does is re-install TNT I think I am "not getting something".
Can someone walk me through this....

[Q] Custom 4.2.2 vs. Stock 4.2.2

Hi guys,
Well, after having my P5100 (Samsung G. Tab 2, 10.1) with a stock rom, I've decided to change it for a Cyanogen stable rom, dated of 2013-09-23 19:17:17. Stock rom (4.2.2) was very slow, with lots of lag on it.
I have done everything as the "manual" says, and installed the above mentioned rom. It became more fluid, and more simple. Perfect.
But i am having here an issue, that I don't know how to solve it.
The thing is that I usually read newspapers on my Tab. This works as it follows:
1. we download an app of the newspaper,
2. every time we have a new edition we receive a notification by email, saying that the new issue is available for download;
3. we open the app and start downloading;
4. after downloading, it starts installing the newspaper (since it is a bit interactive and not just a .pdf)
Since I changed to Cyanogen, with the same 4.2.2 as I had on stock rom, when the newspapper installation comes to end, the app simply closes with error. From that moment, I can't even open the app since it simply will close again with error.
Any ideas how to solve this that doesn't require getting back to stock rom?
Many thanks! :good:

QR7 said:
Hi guys,
Well, after having my P5100 (Samsung G. Tab 2, 10.1) with a stock rom, I've decided to change it for a Cyanogen stable rom, dated of 2013-09-23 19:17:17. Stock rom (4.2.2) was very slow, with lots of lag on it.
I have done everything as the "manual" says, and installed the above mentioned rom. It became more fluid, and more simple. Perfect.
But i am having here an issue, that I don't know how to solve it.
The thing is that I usually read newspapers on my Tab. This works as it follows:
1. we download an app of the newspaper,
2. every time we have a new edition we receive a notification by email, saying that the new issue is available for download;
3. we open the app and start downloading;
4. after downloading, it starts installing the newspaper (since it is a bit interactive and not just a .pdf)
Since I changed to Cyanogen, with the same 4.2.2 as I had on stock rom, when the newspapper installation comes to end, the app simply closes with error. From that moment, I can't even open the app since it simply will close again with error.
Any ideas how to solve this that doesn't require getting back to stock rom?
Many thanks! :good:
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try wiping cache in cwm and also cache of newspaper app also
this might help you

aditya rathee said:
try wiping cache in cwm and also cache of newspaper app also
this might help you
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Ok, I will try that!
Let's see if it works...
Thank you!

Hi there,
I've tried what you suggested, the error still happens.
I really don't know why it runs on Android 4.2.2 stock, and don't on Android 4.2.2 cyanogen.
Thanks anyway. If you remember anything else to suggest, I would appreciate.

QR7 said:
Hi there,
I've tried what you suggested, the error still happens.
I really don't know why it runs on Android 4.2.2 stock, and don't on Android 4.2.2 cyanogen.
Thanks anyway. If you remember anything else to suggest, I would appreciate.
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yeah why not
some apps dont run in cyno rom where as they run without any problems in stock one
whatsapp is a common example of this bug it give problems in cyanogenmod roms sometimes
try older version of the newspaper app it may run
good luck :good::good:

Help choosing ROM and Recovery

Hi everyone.
I rooted my Note Pro 12.2 (wifi) a while back and installed a basic rooted ROM, not CW12.
I honestly don't remember which ROM I flashed. I believe it was just a stock de-bloated ROM, and if it's the one I think it is, in the thread it says that ROM was faulty and dev has stopped for it. I see the kernel version and build in the "about" section under settings but I'm not sure if that number would tell me which ROM it is, or just the ROM and kernal that it was built on top of.
I basically wanted a stock style ROM with the ability to change things as I wanted. I'm still noticing a TON of lag. Scrolling on pages, loading apps, screen lag between touch and actual input of characters when using on screen keyboard, etc etc. I've frozen a bunch of bloatware and other things and it helped a little, but it's still pretty bad.
Audio latency with recording and MIDI apps is very bad, but I know that's improved with lollipop.
Aside from lag, it seems that GPS won't lock on no matter how long Iet it look for a signal (hard to tell if it's the ROM, but my Note 4 has found GPS very easily). Also, my Note 4 (unrooted and stock at this point) is waaaaay smoother and faster than this tablet. I realize we're talking about lollipop vs kitkat, and that the Note 4 version I have is the snapdragon one. But it still seems like performance should be better on this tablet.
So I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a good ROM for me to flash until lollipop comes out for the wifi version of this tablet. I want the stock multi-window functions (4 at a time plus floating windows), so CW12 is not an option. I want to use some of the Samsung apps like s note and Hancom office. I use the s-pen from time to time with the pen apps like write-on-screen.
The "rooted" features I want to access are turning off the camera sound (adding the switch to the settings menu in the camera app, not just replacing the sound file with a dummy file) Changing PPI of apps (xposed module) and full access read/write on micro SD cards and really important is the ability to add any app to the multi-window apps list and force orientation. I've been able to do all this with xposed modules.
Other than that, stock would be fine if it wasn't so laggy. The main reason I want to try another ROM is the lag. On screen keyboard has a lot of lag, but even my Logitech k810 bluetooth keyboard is laggy.
I'm also currently travelling and don't have a PC with me. So I'm hoping I can flash the ROM without ODIN, or perhaps I can use one of the ODIN-for-android type things on my Note 4 to flash a ROM to the Note Pro 12.2. Also I have the stock recovey, and would like suggestions on which recovery to use instead. Again, no computer with me to flash a new recovery. Ido have an OTG cable and USB flash drive so Ican back up my files before flashing the new ROM, as well as a miscro SD card.
Any recommendations for a smooth, fast ROM? Any tips on flashing it without a PC? I know I can copy the ZIP to the tablet and flash it from recovery...but it is the stock recovery...is this going to be sufficient?
THANKS!

The hyperdrive rom by sbreen (in the dev section) works great. Isnt there an internet cafe in the vicinity? Ask them for assistance flashing the beast. I love twrp. Good luck!
I tried to find an easy root apk thingy so you dont need a computer, couldnt find anything (but maybe kinguser or something like it will work)
Link to twrp with explanation
https://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxynotepro122exynoswifi.html

Thanks! TWRP is I think what's on my Note II back home. My tablet is rooted already of course. For the Hyperdrive ROM, one thing I'm a little confused about is if I have to FIRST install a stock ROM and THEN flash the custom ROM. I'm a little confused about why exactly but I see that in the forums from time to time. It's recommended for certain ROMs. I don't know if flashing the stock ROM updates some other firmware/hardware driver type stuff that's needed for the new kernal to work or what.
There might be an internet cafe. I'm flying from Vienna to Lithuania today. Trying to explain to them that I want them to download and install ODIN might be tough knowing only English and Spanish haha.
Sorry for the noob question but is clicking the thumbs-up icon what generates "thanks" or do I do that somewhere else?

spaceturd3000 said:
Thanks! TWRP is I think what's on my Note II back home. My tablet is rooted already of course. For the Hyperdrive ROM, one thing I'm a little confused about is if I have to FIRST install a stock ROM and THEN flash the custom ROM. I'm a little confused about why exactly but I see that in the forums from time to time. It's recommended for certain ROMs. I don't know if flashing the stock ROM updates some other firmware/hardware driver type stuff that's needed for the new kernal to work or what.
There might be an internet cafe. I'm flying from Vienna to Lithuania today. Trying to explain to them that I want them to download and install ODIN might be tough knowing only English and Spanish haha.
Sorry for the noob question but is clicking the thumbs-up icon what generates "thanks" or do I do that somewhere else?
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If its rooted you can install twrp without computer (see my link) use twrp manager fromthe play store for that
You only have to flash the custom rom
(Make sure you backup on an ext sd or something, then delete everything in twrp, install custom rom, restart and done) I also always backup the launcher settings, if you backup the apps with titanium restoring is very easy afterwards)
Lemme know if this works for you!

goenieg said:
If its rooted you can install twrp without computer (see my link) use twrp manager fromthe play store for that
You only have to flash the custom rom
(Make sure you backup on an ext sd or something, then delete everything in twrp, install custom rom, restart and done) I also always backup the launcher settings, if you backup the apps with titanium restoring is very easy afterwards)
Lemme know if this works for you!
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I'm already having trouble installing TWRP. I can't do it from the app, as my device isn't listed. I downloaded the zip file of the correct version of TWRP and tried to flash it using the stock recovery. But when I boot into recovery mode, it still just goes to the stock recovery. Then I downloaded and installed ROM manager from the play store and it shows TWRP as being installed, but whenever I boot into recovery I just get the stock recovery.
I'm back home now and I guess I'll just try to do all this with ODIN.
Is there any reason I can't just install the custom ROM using the stock recovery? That's what I did last time.

Ok So I got TWRP installed via ODIN then I used it to clean wipe and flash Hyperdrive ROM but gmail app won't even open, just crashes immediately, and it's one of the main apps I need so...probably gonna look for another ROM...or most likely gonna flash the stock ROM, unroot and sell the tablet and get a Dell Venue 11 Pro. Might wait till the end of July though, the supposed release date for lollipop on this device.

Had the same problem. Install hyperdrive without the gmail app option. Afterwards install itmvia the play store.
And if you want lollipop give cyanogen a try. I love it (but its a personal thing).
Ad make sure to read the Venue reviews, they are not very positive.

goenieg said:
Had the same problem. Install hyperdrive without the gmail app option. Afterwards install itmvia the play store.
And if you want lollipop give cyanogen a try. I love it (but its a personal thing).
Ad make sure to read the Venue reviews, they are not very positive.
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I wanted to try lollipop because I use it for music, and latency is much better with lollipop. My Note 4 is running lollipop and I get way better performance from MIDI keyboards and guitar amp modelling. I really like the multi window functions on the stock and hyperdrive ROMs though, 4 at once, floating, etc. I'm sure as soon as lollipop is officially out for this device, someone will release a rooted version.
Thanks for the tip on gmail, fortunately I read it before getting too deep and just reflashed without gmail it and then installed the gmail app as you suggested and it does work. There still seems to be a bit of delay when using the on screen keyboard, not as fast as I had hoped. But it's up and running.
I was considering the Dell after trying a bunch of different audio and video editing apps for android and realizing that I just need full photoshop, premiere, and Reaper with all my VST plugins, so I need windows. Perhaps Surface Pro is a better choice but I like the Venue's chassis better, fanless, rounded corners. Also new tablets might be coming out with Windows 10 so another reason to wait...
My laptop is great but it's really big and I like a touch interface for on screen mixers and instruments. So I figured a tablet PC might work best for me. But the problem is GUI scaling. with the Windows legacy apps like Premiere and Photoshop, the buttons and menus don't scale, and on an 11" 1080 display they are quite small.

Just wait for win 10 and while waiting fine tune your 12" beast did you try system tuner pro already? You should be able to get less latency from that.
(And did someone mention "buy a Mac" already?

I am surprised, because after testing dozen ROMs I found stock ROM fastest one. Just root and debloat it.
Not so any lag or problems, but with custom ROMS I had a lot of problems.

tin2404 said:
I am surprised, because after testing dozen ROMs I found stock ROM fastest one. Just root and debloat it.
Not so any lag or problems, but with custom ROMS I had a lot of problems.
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Indeed, cyanogen requires a lot of tuning (but its what I like about Android, I am more tinkering with it than actually using it I believe

goenieg said:
Just wait for win 10 and while waiting fine tune your 12" beast did you try system tuner pro already? You should be able to get less latency from that.
(And did someone mention "buy a Mac" already?
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I checked out system tuner pro (didn't buy it yet just read the description) What exactly would I adjust to get lower audio latency? Just clock the CPU higher? OR does it have audio-specific settings not mentioned in the description?

Hold yer horses
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/49414/P900XXU0BOF2_P900OXA0BOF2_PHN/
Looks like Samsung official lollipop (I read that it has way better latency) is finally coming to your tablet.
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Better link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ccvyxgge4kaUktYWtPUl9QSW8/view?pli=1

WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!!? I've been checking sammobile EVERY day for the lost couple weeks waiting for this! OMG OMG I'm hoping I'll be able to use the Samsung Audio stuff with this, their DAW and amplitube and all that...plus I'll get Hancom office back...Thanks for the heads-up. I'm glad I've been using CM12.1 though So I can compare the experience.
Looking forward to the rooted version of stock lollipop making its way to xda as well! Now... to figure out the best way to back up my current installation...