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hey guys please dont be mad im just trying to see if this will help ur development as i want a g tablet myself currently i am in the hd2 android development forums on xda and there a guy found some honeycomb for desire hd i know honeycomb is suppose to be for tablets so i thought why not let u guys see what u could do with it here a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=960503 or u could just google hd2 android development xda its there in the nand development part of it the devs in there are working on porting it to hd2 maybe ur devs can get it working
most of the gtab devs are still working on gingerbread.
I would imagine that they won't focus on Honeycomb until an official SDK is released. Right now everything you are seeing is probably based off of the preview SDK.
Google has 30 days to release the SDK after someone releases the first product (probably the XOOM) with honeycomb on it.
trust me, i'm patiently waiting too...
Yeah, probably it is ported from the SDK preview so it is not very usefull to usbecause it is not complete and it doesnt suports our dual core.
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most of the gtab devs are still working on gingerbread.
I would imagine that they won't focus on Honeycomb until an official SDK is released. Right now everything you are seeing is probably based off of the preview SDK.
Google has 30 days to release the SDK after someone releases the first product (probably the XOOM) with honeycomb on it.
trust me, i'm patiently waiting too...
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Really? i though we were really waiting for the xoom release because the rom could be ripped out from the xoom and ported for our beloved tablet.(Xoom release this thursday)
I also though, because i read a post, that making a rom from an SDK was not very convinient and that it implied a lot of work. I could be wrong or i could have read wrong.
BTW: I think this is the wrong section to post this. XD, I could be wrong about that also.
Well, I think it's possible to port it from xoom to gtab.
Buy me one and I'll do it for you, for free! =D
Cheers
Not development. Moved to General.
It could be an SDK port, but I'll check it out. Thanks for the link.
EDIT: Yeah, this looks like an SDK port - I can tell just from the build.prop.
Folks at NotionInkHacks claim they are close to a port already:
http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2011/02/18/notioninkhacks-com-what-we-need-for-honey-comb/
Given what they say they are still missing, I'm not so sure, but...
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Folks at NotionInkHacks claim they are close to a port already:
http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2011/02/18/notioninkhacks-com-what-we-need-for-honey-comb/
Given what they say they are still missing, I'm not so sure, but...
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If this is true, i think it needs its own topic and maybe a sticky.
Pazzu510 said:
If this is true, i think it needs its own topic and maybe a sticky.
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When a real honeycomb rom is available i guarantee there will be a stickied topic in development. NotionInkHacks are no closer than anyone else. Some of the same people are working on their roms as the GTab roms. Everyone is still missing the same files.
yeah, probably you are right. I hope we can get those files from the Xoom in its release this Thursday.
The A-Team at Notion Ink Hacks takes pride in our secrecy and the ability to get things done. We are very close to porting Honeycomb for both the Notion Ink Adam and the Viewsonic GTab. However, we need your help to find a Tegra based Boot.img and System.img for Honeycomb.
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I'm guessing that's all the xda developers here need to get Honeycomb up and running gtab also.
Don't worry about Adam versus GTAB - they are so similar that if one gets it, the other won't be far behind. And the VEGA too, we'll all benefit I'm sure.
So does this mean that the devs will be able to strip honeycomb out of the xoom easily for us g-tabers?
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/2...ckablerelockable-bootloader-for-development/#
That would be my assumption. Great news!
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I just saw that announcement as well. Seems like good news. I'm a little shocked honestly.
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I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone yells at us for talking about honeycomb in a forum, but I too am curious about that. I know that Roebeet was answering some questions on another honeycomb thread, which I really appreciate. Seems to me, now that honeycomb is right around the corner, that some discussion about what must be done to get honeycomb on our g tabs would be useful.
Is anyone who checks this forum getting a Xoom? It would be great if a developer could let us know what might be needed from a xoom to begin work on a gtab honeycomb rom (if it is even possible). Im much more hopeful now after learning about the unlockable bootloader. I'm not asking for honeycomb tomorrow by any means, but am very curious about what steps would need to be taken to get honeycomb on the gtab. Thanks for any help!
Guys, our dev community here is one of the best. Roebeet and Rothnic are already active on the Xoom forum and inquiring/waiting/stalking for a system rom dump. ..gotta luv 'em.
See here for the Xoom forum on xda
When you start seeing threads about roms and the like on those forums, Honeycomb for the Gtab won't be far behind.
Thanks for the update!
atakapa said:
Guys, our dev community here is one of the best. Roebeet and Rothnic are already active on the Xoom forum and inquiring/waiting/stalking for a system rom dump. ..gotta luv 'em.
See here for the Xoom forum on xda
When you start seeing threads about roms and the like on those forums, Honeycomb for the Gtab won't be far behind.
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Thanks for the info. Maybe a mod should post a sticky like your post to cut down on honeycomb threads.
Thanks again \oo/
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neo4uo said:
Thanks for the info. Maybe a mod should post a sticky like your post to cut down on honeycomb threads.
Thanks again \oo/
Sent from my Froyo Leak...thanks Kaos \00/
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Exactly what I was thinking. If anyone in the know could explain whats the approximate timeline for Google's releases of AOSP in relation to the release of flagship device with the corresponding update.
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Exactly what I was thinking. If anyone in the know could explain whats the approximate time line for Google's releases of AOSP in relation to the release of flagship device with the corresponding update.
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Read in another post here that Google has 30 days from the release of the first device running an OS before they have to release it to AOSP. again this is from a post I read and can't locate at the moment (too many Where's honeycomb threads to deal with looking through) so take it for what its worth.
Even so, would you like a rom that is a port of another device or a rom built from source using the same version of android?
I say our very own honeycomb will do!
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I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone yells at us for talking about honeycomb in a forum, but I too am curious about that. I know that Roebeet was answering some questions on another honeycomb thread, which I really appreciate. Seems to me, now that honeycomb is right around the corner, that some discussion about what must be done to get honeycomb on our g tabs would be useful.
Is anyone who checks this forum getting a Xoom? It would be great if a developer could let us know what might be needed from a xoom to begin work on a gtab honeycomb rom (if it is even possible). Im much more hopeful now after learning about the unlockable bootloader. I'm not asking for honeycomb tomorrow by any means, but am very curious about what steps would need to be taken to get honeycomb on the gtab. Thanks for any help!
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I'm getting a xoom tomorrow and i'm pretty adventurous so if there's anything I can do to help just let me know.
Legacy2385 said:
I'm getting a xoom tomorrow and i'm pretty adventurous so if there's anything I can do to help just let me know.
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I am also getting a Xoom tomorrow but definitely not throwing out the gtablet as it is one of the best learning development tools I have owned. I will probably be a bit more cautious with the xoom out of the gate just because of the cost, but guaranteed I will be testing Honeycomb ROMS on the gtablet as soon as they are available.
Guys,
Have at it ! Here is the Xoom build.prop thanks to thefredelement... Give him a HUGE thanks for sharing this
Just download it; then extract the zip file and there you go!!!
Thanks again thefredelement !!!
Does this mean we will have honeycomb soon or do we still need the drivers from nvidia?
You still need a boot.img. Just so you know people have had access to the xoom for more than a week already and have been working on this.
Thanks, but based on the early indications this fingerprint will actually cause the market to shrink rather than expand. It is interesting to read though as it specifically states nosdcard, and does include the telephony stuff, if nothing else there is potential that once we have a honeycomb port 3G usb modem drivers may become available.
I just posted this so we could take a look at what was in it... it is a good read if nothing else ;-)
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You still need a boot.img. Just so you know people have had access to the xoom for more than a week already and have been working on this.
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I would have thanked you but I've exceeded my max per didn't know there was a maximum. You learn something new everyday.
Anyways, it's also my understanding that to get the boot.img, the Xoom will need to be rooted. Is that correct? So, is that what we should be really looking for? Xoom has been rooted threads?
Look for "Rom based on Honeycomb". And yes it needs root. It will happen people. Posting endless honeycomb threads is not gonna make it any faster.
Ok I'm kind of a noob, please don't slam me 'frog. Since the whole purpose of Android and the whole Open Source thing is to make source available, don't either Motorola, nVidia or Google NEED to release this Honeycomb-Tegra 2 code at some point. I do realize that there may be proprietary pieces but I thought once you used open source code, you were obliged to release your resulting code to the community. Am I missing something here or is all this chatter just an attempt to get it faster?
I hate seeing all of the teaser threads as well, but I also try to keep an open mind and view it more as humorous than obnoxious. I'm sure the real dev's are quite adept at skipping and ignoring the stupid comments by people like me.
I'm just saying ...
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Look for "Rom based on Honeycomb". And yes it needs root. It will happen people. Posting endless honeycomb threads is not gonna make it any faster.
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Lol. I shouldn't have posted the last two sentences. It's not like I was saying that I was being impatient. Just wanted to learn that's all.
I'm assuming we'll see a lot of the bits and pieces of the XOOM system posted in here and just wanted to know what's relevant or not.
Thanks again.
Its all good. I understand people wanna learn.
Yes they have to release anything that is open source but if you use linux you can use the nvidea and ati example. They don't release their proprietary libs for their cards and as a result its quite likely when you upgrade your kernel you break your video drivers. Its not so bad now but a couple years ago I couldnt keep an ati card working.
All the endless threads that are repeats make it nearly impossible for noobs to find good information and it makes it harder for me to link the correct posts for noobs to follow. Everyone was new at one time but you will never learn anything if you keep asking and not looking. This is a developer forum....xda DEVELOPERS.... not a customer service forum. Most devs here go out of their way to answer questions as do a few of us power users. My tirades are not directed at people like the 2 previous posts. Its the ones that dont want help. They want someone to hold there hand and type out each and every command for them and supply them a fix for every problem. And they want it now
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Ok I'm kind of a noob, please don't slam me 'frog. Since the whole purpose of Android and the whole Open Source thing is to make source available, don't either Motorola, nVidia or Google NEED to release this Honeycomb-Tegra 2 code at some point. I do realize that there may be proprietary pieces but I thought once you used open source code, you were obliged to release your resulting code to the community. Am I missing something here or is all this chatter just an attempt to get it faster?
I hate seeing all of the teaser threads as well, but I also try to keep an open mind and view it more as humorous than obnoxious. I'm sure the real dev's are quite adept at skipping and ignoring the stupid comments by people like me.
I'm just saying ...
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Typically one week is the lead time afforded the trail blazing device for each generation of Android, and then the plain vanilla source AOSP is posted at source.android.com (read about git first, where the kernel is posted). However none of the proprietary information in specific devices needs to be made available right away.
Will th devs that made the honeynook sdk preview be able to update that if they get a Xoom, amd in turn would that help the g tab devs?
I'm just curious about how much of a problem the fact that the XOOM has a Gig of system ram rather than 512 megs will be. I could see an easy way to protect some exclusivity under the guise of "ensuring compatibility" where one of the first boot steps is to check for enough available ram...
Good thing my Zpad has 1 gig ram then eh
boot img and tegra 2 aosp source here
http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-vega-vega-modaco-com/333138/xoom-rootboot-img/#entry1614605
I think.
Alpha06 said:
boot img and tegra 2 aosp source here
http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-vega-vega-modaco-com/333138/xoom-rootboot-img/#entry1614605
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It's a Xoom boot.img, and the (tegra 2) kernel source for honeycomb (2.6.36).
Ok, per Engadget Xoom has been rooted... Next?
Here are the init files as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11615922&postcount=9
You can get a rooted boot image here: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2011/02/motorola-xoom-rooted.html
Love it when things start moving at nearly the speed of light,... uh oh, getting dizzy... frog, will you hold my hand?
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Will th devs that made the honeynook sdk preview be able to update that if they get a Xoom, amd in turn would that help the g tab devs?
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The Nook is so heavily supported because it's so god damn cheap for a tablet. (it's really an "e-reader")
there was no touch interface released with the version of honeycomb from the preview sdk.
With a real Honeycomb product (and full SDK) full development is possible.
If you wait, They will build it, we will come. =]
Current News 11/28/2012
Well Fosser2 and his gang have finally hashed out a GIT with the source for the 3.1 kernel they are compiling. It is to my displeasure that NVIDIA requests are a complete failure, but because of this amazing open source comunity that we have with Android we are still able to bring our devices around to match that of what we desire out of our tablets. Thank you to their valiant efforts in creating a better user environment and we tip our hats to them. Please be sure to give them a thanks and buy them a beer. Here is the GIT
GIT Source from Fosser2
Old Info -
Directly quoted from Fosser2. I have been checking daily to see when the forums would come back up, and it looks like they have. Please get your petitions over there to get the sources so our g-tabs can be 100% functional (Well as close as you can) =]
Hey guys,
I know you all want the camera working but NVIDIA is really holding back on the information that they are releasing. As you know Notion Ink and the developers who have been working with the Adam tablet have really helped this project along. NI is asking people to post in My Post on the NVIDIA Forums to see if we can get the camera source code and information on the interface the camera runs on. Please take the time to read this Post and register and complain in the NVIDIA forums about the camera. Please try to make your posts sound professional, but we're gonna need some support behind this one if we have any hope on getting the camera active again. Even if NI gets the camera sources and we don't, I'm sure that the work that they finish will be able to be ported to our camera with minimal efforts. Thanks for your time!
You can find my topic over here
please register and keep this post on the top. The more traffic we get there the sooner we will hear back from them.
Link
I see a couple of people who have posted and I thank you all for the help, lets try and keep the forum as the top hit list so MODs will see it and hopefully get a response. If they refuse we will threaten with the better business bureau and I am sure they will listen then.
I know its a pain to have to create another user account, but please the more people they see posting on the nvidia forums the higher chance we have of getting the sources released to the public. Imagine the possibility of the device without poking around blindly at the kernel, but having a complete map available.
I just registered and posted. I really hope someone notices how important this is to us.
Cheveron just said in the Dirty Bean forum on Slatedroid that the camera is already fixed.
This is more than just the Camera though. The Devs are poking blindly without source. The fact they got it working is a miracle, we would rather have the hard solid evidence to make sure we get the most out of the devices with the source from Nvidia.
We tried very hard the first time. They just arent willing to help out. With a middle finger in the air I think all devs who have contibuted their time can walk the streets proud of their accomlishments. Thanks for the hardware Nvidia...screw you for the support.
We don't need anything from NVIDIA; apparently dwagner already got the camera working (for the most part). This is what Ch3vr0n5 said over on Slatedroid. So it's coming, just be patient.
In the future you should consider boycotting NVIDIA; go with Qualcomm or Samsung. They are far more receptive to the community than NVIDIA and will have much better longevity than any NVIDIA products. Yes, the Nexus 7 uses a Tegra III but that doesn't mean much since NVIDIA still doesn't share source with the community. Eventually even the Nexus 7 owners will have a G-Tablet like situation on their hands.
Yes we did get the camera working w/ our own set of code. Not sure when its going to be fully available to the public. Hopefully sooner than later though!
You guys are amazing. Does that mean once you work out the kinks in theory the tab should be 100% functioning?
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Yes we did get the camera working w/ our own set of code. Not sure when its going to be fully available to the public. Hopefully sooner than later though!
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Pl make it sooner. ... where is the link to the original development of the can driver?
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I wish you luck getting the camera working through your petitions, but this thread needs to be in General so I am moving it now.
Thank you,
mf2112
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Here is the camera source. We're in the middle of porting it to our 3.1 kernel right now.
https://github.com/TeamDRH/android-tegra-nv-2.6.39-rel-14r7/tree/camera
I want to start off with I am not a dev. I am merely a member of the community that wants to see progress forward toward more amazing ROMs for the Tbolt. The other thread about a new base got closed so I wanted to open this so that productive discussion could continue. I hope that the community can come together and continue to produce the quality ROMs that I've found here in the past. As I said, I'm not a dev but if there's a way for me to contribute please let me know.
Santos has put out many different great roms. Also heard ziggy has said that when the source is dropped he will make a new kernel. So that's good news. Not many devs are left as the phone is old and Santos is about the only one deving the new ics update. If the source drops might have to get another bolt to play with. I like what he did with the leaked update. Maybe once the source is released some of.the old.devs might wanna.tinker. and make a Rom for old time sakes.
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Thanks for starting a new thread, hopefully we can move forward with this. Here is a good place to start for the adventurous http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690, don't blame me if you brick your phone.
ViperZ28 said:
Thanks for starting a new thread, hopefully we can move forward with this. Here is a good place to start for the adventurous http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690, don't blame me if you brick your phone.
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From the files that I grabbed after doing the OTA I have a base OTA ROM working now, yeah me. I am going to debloat this thing now....I forgot what VZW's ICS looked like.
I am still having issues with it though, sometimes it just starts to lag a lot. As soon as I get passed the setup stuff I can check root and gets some logcat's to see what is going on.
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fyi, Santod's RC6 is pretty good, it is Desensed and it is really fast. So far so good, might stick with this while I play with creating my own.
ViperZ28 said:
From the files that I grabbed after doing the OTA I have a base OTA ROM working now, yeah me. I am going to debloat this thing now....I forgot what VZW's ICS looked like.
I am still having issues with it though, sometimes it just starts to lag a lot. As soon as I get passed the setup stuff I can check root and gets some logcat's to see what is going on.
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fyi, Santod's RC6 is pretty good, it is Desensed and it is really fast. So far so good, might stick with this while I play with creating my own.
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Good to hear on the base front and thanks for the recommendation on the RC6 definitely going to check it out
If anybody has questions about developing their own ROM based on the OTA, you can go ahead and ask me. My ROMs based off of the OTA are MacekMod Mecha Rebirth and Galaxy Clone (galaxy clone rebase is still in the works, dont think I have forgotten about ti )
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If anybody has questions about developing their own ROM based on the OTA, you can go ahead and ask me. My ROMs based off of the OTA are MacekMod Mecha Rebirth and Galaxy Clone (galaxy clone rebase is still in the works, dont think I have forgotten about ti )
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I had headed over to your thread to download a fresh ROM for my old Thunderbolt (I've moved on, but I like keeping it up to date), but the thread is closed and the links removed. I had meant to grab it a week ago, but kept forgetting, and now it seems some drama has caused it to be removed.
So now, I see in the development section that there's barely anything modern for ICS besides that stock one that Santos has. And I'm definitely not going to register at yet another forum to access a couple extra ROM's.
Moral of the story is... I am definitely looking forward to seeing more than one solid ICS ROM here for the Thunderbolt
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And I'm definitely not going to register at yet another forum to access a couple extra ROM's.
Moral of the story is... I am definitely looking forward to seeing more than one solid ICS ROM here for the Thunderbolt
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Well, those "couple" other roms I have, are actually 7 other roms aside from the 4 stock ones.
Of course nobody will force you to join the site or to use those roms.
It just seems to me anyway, that it may be a bit silly for someone who wants more ICS options, to not go where those options are, just because they don't want to join a FREE forum.
Anyhow, I wish you all the best on your hopes for more ICS roms for the Bolt coming here.
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Well, those "couple" other roms I have, are actually 7 other roms aside from the 4 stock ones.
Of course nobody will force you to join the site or to use those roms.
It just seems to me anyway, that it may be a bit silly for someone who wants more ICS options, to not go where those options are, just because they don't want to join a FREE forum.
Anyhow, I wish you all the best on your hopes for more ICS roms for the Bolt coming here.
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No need to get touchy, it's nothing against you... lol. The Thunderbolt is one of my old phones that I only use for media purposes, so it's not very high priority. If nothing happens here, I'm sure I'll eventually break down and head over there to grab one.
I'm just tired of registering at a bunch of different places just to grab a ROM, that's all. I pretty much stick to being registered here and at Rootzwiki these days, and I'll grab stuff from sites that don't require registration on rare occasion. Just a quirk of mine, that's all. No offense intended
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No need to get touchy, it's nothing against you... lol. The Thunderbolt is one of my old phones that I only use for media purposes, so it's not very high priority. If nothing happens here, I'm sure I'll eventually break down and head over there to grab one.
I'm just tired of registering at a bunch of different places just to grab a ROM, that's all. I pretty much stick to being registered here and at Rootzwiki these days, and I'll grab stuff from sites that don't require registration on rare occasion. Just a quirk of mine, that's all. No offense intended
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No worries, wasn't getting touchy at all.
No offense taken.
Just simply responding to a post I had read.
People express their opinions on things here all the time, as you did.
I was just doing the same.