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This is a flaw of text based communication, you can't really infer tone/intent/feelings unless it was blatant flaming. I agree with you. I don't flame at all, but I have read over a lot of these threads. With that said, I think some of these developers are just overly sensitive about remarks on an internet board. I think you have to assume there will be assholes participating on open internet forums and prepare yourself for such...this is just how it is.
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I think you have to assume there will be assholes participating on open internet forums and prepare yourself for such...this is just how it is.
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There will always be people who are rude and obnoxious, and that is what banning is for. However, some people don't even realize that they are being rude. That is who this is for.
Its kinda sad how much drama we have now. But like always xda will keep on keepin on
I like the little spats... keeps things interesting... Especially the weekly Axura dramas
I also believe when a trillion billion people say... "SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH" it helps most of the time..
It is a message board, you will have people being dicks...and you will have people that aren't dicks. We have a report button for a reason, however it seems to take a little while for things to happen even when reported. I know I have reported threads and people before and nothing changed. I even asked for a PM if what I was reporting was incorrect. But it isn't just about people flaming. It is people taking words out of context. I like to joke around and if I put a JK after a normally demeaning remark to me it makes it a joke and playful. However at least twice have people gotten on my case as if I was being an asshole because of the comment even though it is clearly stated in the post as being a joke. It is everyone, and it is our job to police.
Adam seemed to do a decent job with Axura, after Master created it and Hansmrtn continued the project. I don't know what he did other than what most other people seem to do with these and piece together components they like and package it into a zip. It does seem like some do more than others but you have to take criticism. Now, badgering and cussing at a person has no place on the forum, and those that do need to leave. That is the Moderators job. Adam left because either he could not take the fact that the Rom he took over had issues he could not control, or because we were not doing our job policing and having Moderators take care of people going out of their way to berate an individual.
And no offense to you but you seem to be trying to become a Mod with all of your threads created. What exactly are your motivations here, is it to question the people on the board and how we act, or are you trying to show that you can do a better job than those already in position?
Don't worry.. about the people that flame there are more people that don't even post that love the work that is being done here..
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Don't worry.. about the people that flame there are more people that don't even post that love the work that is being done here..
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Who are you talking to or about?
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And no offense to you but you seem to be trying to become a Mod with all of your threads created. What exactly are your motivations here, is it to question the people on the board and how we act, or are you trying to show that you can do a better job than those already in position?
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Since you brought that up, I was trying to figure that out as well.
if somebody is offended by what a person says on the internet, they probably shouldnt be here in the first place. I find it hard to believe anybody intelligent enough to provide good dev work for a device to be bothered by this.
I see nothing wrong with the quoted posts, but i'm insane.
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And no offense to you but you seem to be trying to become a Mod with all of your threads created. What exactly are your motivations here, is it to question the people on the board and how we act, or are you trying to show that you can do a better job than those already in position?
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If you are referring to my stickied guides, I am not a developer, I do not know how to make a ROM. However, I still wish to contribute to XDA. So I have done that by creating guides to both help struggling users and keep the forums clear of useless questions. I am in no way trying to prove anything, I am simply trying to help other users. I posted this specific thread because I was sick of what was going on and the moderators weren't doing enough.
they're doing more than enough.
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I would have to agree with that and yet it still goes on. I don't get the big deal you are making about this post. I was just trying to get my message across being:
"don't be obnoxious on the forums"
Rule of thumb i use, if I do not like a rom, I flash another without commenting. If I do not like an aspect of a rom and I change something and feel it is an improvement I post but say it in respect. Who am I to criticize those who create here? There is plenty to say but discretion is an overlooked virtue
Sent from my SCH-I897 using XDA App
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I would have to agree with that and yet it still goes on. I don't get the big deal you are making about this post. I was just trying to get my message across being:
"don't be obnoxious on the forums"
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You're the one making the big deal. If all you wanted to do was get a message across, put that message in your signature. Was it really necessary to create a new thread with that title?
Tone it down a notch or two, lay off the new-thread creation for a few days...
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You're the one making the big deal. If all you wanted to do was get a message across, put that message in your signature. Was it really necessary to create a new thread with that title?
Tone it down a notch or two, lay off the new-thread creation for a few days...
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I will get rid of this thread if you want, but what does this have to do with any other thread?
being obnoxious is the only fun some of us have in life. he cant put it in his signature he'd have to move his donate button! /gasp.
that's all i have to say about that.
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he'd have to move his donate button! /gasp.
that's all i have to say about that.
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haha I think I can manage
(speaking of which you have a ridiculously large amount of phones.
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If you are referring to my stickied guides, I am not a developer, I do not know how to make a ROM. However, I still wish to contribute to XDA. So I have done that by creating guides to both help struggling users and keep the forums clear of useless questions. I am in no way trying to prove anything, I am simply trying to help other users. I posted this specific thread because I was sick of what was going on and the moderators weren't doing enough.
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So you are not a Dev in any way? Why do you have a donate button? I am just curious. No need to answer if you don't want.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
he may not actually create content, but he does put effort into organizing it ( from what i've seen in his wikis and whatnot ). whether or not thats worth donating for isnt anyones decision but those using his guides.
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Is there any possible way that we can create a thread that pertains ONLY to ROM releases, rather than the comments and issues that are involved with them? It's somewhat irritating to filter through 1000's of posts, just to find rom releases. It would be much more convenient to only have a single area with releases.
Does anyone agree?
Uhmmm, yes I do agree. Thats why I made it...its a sticky at the top of this forum...called ROM Ratings, Reviews.....yada yada...its got some of my impressions of the ROMs, and the links to em.
hey ashasaur!!!!
POLL....... Does it must be a Thread where we can said everybody to search before post????
If you think that YESSSSS!!!!!! so please post behind and type YES!!!
if not... you are one of this guys that dislikes to read.
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POLL....... Does it must be a Thread where we can said everybody to search before post????
If you think that YESSSSS!!!!!! so please post behind and type YES!!!
if not... you are one of this guys that dislikes to read.
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I didn't understand a word of what you said. I think some conjugations got lost in translation.
Nonetheless, I saw the rom ratings and programs thread, but it still had a bunch of babble after the first couple posts... then it turns into yet another yap fest. I'm not trying to be a ****, I'm just giving a bit of constructive criticizm. I understand there are quite a few people putting their heart and souls into this, and it's greatly appreciated. But, it can be a bit tough to navigate and find what you want.
I Agree!!!
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I didn't understand a word of what you said. I think some conjugations got lost in translation.
Nonetheless, I saw the rom ratings and programs thread, but it still had a bunch of babble after the first couple posts... then it turns into yet another yap fest. I'm not trying to be a ****, I'm just giving a bit of constructive criticizm. I understand there are quite a few people putting their heart and souls into this, and it's greatly appreciated. But, it can be a bit tough to navigate and find what you want.
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But... so... please post your "constructive" criticizm thoughts on that thread cause this kind of threads makes too hard to find that roms and begins the problem you are talking about, and to get answer, and dont seems like a fool, and to be heard i mean...
Thanks in advance...
"THIS CRITICIZM THINGS GOT CHANGE TO MR ASHASAUR THREAD ON ROM INFO THREAD"
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But... so... please post your "constructive" criticizm thoughts on that thread cause this kind of threads makes too hard to find that roms and begins the problem you are talking about, and to get answer, and dont seems like a fool, and to be heard i mean...
Thanks in advance...
"THIS CRITICIZM THINGS GOT CHANGE TO MR ASHASAUR THREAD ON ROM INFO THREAD"
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I still can't understand what you're trying to say. It's as if someone threw a bunch of words into a bag that dealt with ROMS and Criticizm and tossed them into a paragraph.
The reason I made this post was because the other was long, and I wanted to address the fact that it was TOO LONG. After a certain point, the ROM post was no longer functional for what its specific purpose was. For me to post in that thread, would be going against why I wrote this, and why you ran your mouth in the first place.
The ROM list thread needed to be locked to only admins or the owner. Have a different thread for ROM recommendations to post on to that LOCKED thread, so you don't have casual conversation and questions thrown into it. This "Constructive" criticizm is meant for admins and for others to ponder, so it's easier to navigate. Unless you have those powers, please quite pissing about this ****ing post and do something worthwhile. I'm not here to waste my time with some moron who has a broken translator program.. I just want to point out that there MAY BE A BETTER WAY to assist people if you would quit arguing with me.
Lordy, what is it with all of these new users goin off like this? A trend begins to form!
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Lordy, what is it with all of these new users goin off like this? A trend begins to form!
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Can you parent up and take a look at the legitimate question I asked before having someone jump on me, only because they had no idea what I was trying to accomplish? Because I've been on this site since June, and haven't had anything to say except for a recommendation, I don't have the right to defend myself against someone?
I didn't ask any other questions, because flashing and creating roms isn't exactly rocket science. The point I was getting across, only dealt with the way they were posted on the site.
Please, tell me you wouldn't feel offended if the same words were said to you, when you were trying to help and have a tiny bit more experience than rom building. I find the site interesting and think it's cool that everyone's creating their own. I also have respect for the admins, because I did this type of work years ago. The thing I don't have respect for, is some kid telling me to do a search in a condescending manner, just because he's posted enough garbage on a website to consider him a "Senior Member" though he obviously hides behind admins like the little chihuahua you see in cartoons, jumping around the big bulldog.
I'm through with this post, and I'm sure you're pleased about it. You can post after me, knowing that the pansy (and probably incomprehensible) comment you leave will be without a rebuttle. This isn't at "Ashasaur", and I'm sure he'll understand what I'm getting at.
Just because an old veteran in programming decides to mess with his cell phone and help some admins with their website layout, doesn't mean he should be treated with disrespect because he JUST created a user on the site. It's like ****ing Juan Valdez walking into Starbucks and asking for a black coffee, only to be laughed at because he didn't know they didn't serve it.
oh ye ya boy luv the way you bashed him ,these seniors think cos we new to this forum we durh or somthang and btw with your post i totaly agree
how can you get your G1 to store the apps on your sd card?
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how can you get your G1 to store the apps on your sd card?
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You can't yet, it's not like WM. I have noticed that some apps used the SD card for storage and some do not. So in part it seems there may be things that the developers could do to relieve some of the stress on the system storage.
Newbs that come in here without at least looking at ALL should be automatically banned.
SEARCH BUTTON FOLKS....
Agreed, even though I am new here I at least know my hardware & software and if there is something that I do not know I look to see if the info is anywhere to be found before starting a thread to ask a ? that has been answered since the phone was released. lol
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Newbs that come in here without at least looking at ALL should be automatically banned.
SEARCH BUTTON FOLKS....
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Should be "banned"? Really? While I agree most answers can be found with a simple search, that kind of hostility and elitisim is just sort of thing that makes it hard for others to learn. If it bothers you so badly IGNORE the post. It's not your responsibility or right to chastise others who are simply trying to learn. Keep in mind this is a new platform and device and it is only natural that new members will be drawn to these boards. Xda is a resource and community for all.
Remember you were a "noob" yourself once.
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Should be "banned"? Really? While I agree most answers can be found with a simple search, that kind of hostility and elitisim is just sort of thing that makes it hard for others to learn. If it bothers you so badly IGNORE the post. It's not your responsibility or right to chastise others who are simply trying to learn. Keep in mind this is a new platform and device and it is only natural that new members will be drawn to these boards. Xda is a resource and community for all.
Remember you were a "noob" yourself once.
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I'm struggling trying to learn java and linux on my own because of that exact attitude. So unless the person is being a jerk about looking for an answer, I've seen some that have, then there's no call to elevate hostility.
While banning people is a little harsh it is frustrating to see new post every day about the same thing. You can only be polite to so many people before your patience wears thin.
I don't understand what the big deal is honestly with some of you people on here that talk to new people like that. It is a moderator's job to deal with multiple threads not you. Personally if I see a question that has been addressed already it doesn't bother me, I just try and help anyone who needs it. If it bothers you that much then you should keep your opinions to yourself as the person you talk down to may be a leading member on here someday and contribute greatly to the forum. Negativity does nothing but hurt the forum and draw people away from it.
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I don't understand what the big deal is honestly with some of you people on here that talk to new people like that. It is a moderator's job to deal with multiple threads not you. Personally if I see a question that has been addressed already it doesn't bother me, I just try and help anyone who needs it. If it bothers you that much then you should keep your opinions to yourself as the person you talk down to may be a leading member on here someday and contribute greatly to the forum. Negativity does nothing but hurt the forum and draw people away from it.
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The mods here annoy me, tbqh (even though I've never actually seen one). They combine every single thread in existence. The battery thread was really about 5 different threads, and should have been left as 5 different threads as they each brought up different points, but nope! Some mod decided they should be one. I just skip the entire thread then, not worth fighting through 9 pages of completely different topic material.
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The mods here annoy me, tbqh (even though I've never actually seen one). They combine every single thread in existence. The battery thread was really about 5 different threads, and should have been left as 5 different threads as they each brought up different points, but nope! Some mod decided they should be one. I just skip the entire thread then, not worth fighting through 9 pages of completely different topic material.
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And to think you never thought of telling any of the staff members this by using that little report button... Wow and you wonder why they do what they do and you don't like it.
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And to think you never thought of telling any of the staff members this by using that little report button... Wow and you wonder why they do what they do and you don't like it.
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They obviously have/had their reasons to combine them, I just disagree. Not going to try and argue with them, just since the whole "leave moderation to the mods" thing came up, thought I'd add my two cents.
Gary13579 said:
They obviously have/had their reasons to combine them, I just disagree. Not going to try and argue with them, just since the whole "leave moderation to the mods" thing came up, thought I'd add my two cents.
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It isn't arguing if you are providing constructive feedback. Approach the moderators for this section and ask them why they moved it and tell them why you think it shouldn't have been moved. It is very simple.
Making comments about them in a thread will get you no where and won't help the situation. I know you were just trying to speak your mind but sometimes it is best to bite your tongue and try to speak your mind to the higher ups and not the simple user.
I am having a problem with the screen timing out, and going black. This seems to happen regardless of whatever I am doing on the phone (texting, browing internet, etc) The touch recognition does not keep the display on, and the phone will go black right in the middle of my typing. the only way to keep the display on is press the menu button. Any advice? Its a clean install, just installed yesterday
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I am having a problem with the screen timing out, and going black. This seems to happen regardless of whatever I am doing on the phone (texting, browing internet, etc) The touch recognition does not keep the display on, and the phone will go black right in the middle of my typing. the only way to keep the display on is press the menu button. Any advice? Its a clean install, just installed yesterday
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Then go ask in his thread and stop cluttering up the forum with stupid bloody questions!
chrisokaly said:
I am having a problem with the screen timing out, and going black. This seems to happen regardless of whatever I am doing on the phone (texting, browing internet, etc) The touch recognition does not keep the display on, and the phone will go black right in the middle of my typing. the only way to keep the display on is press the menu button. Any advice? Its a clean install, just installed yesterday
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@Chris....Have you rebooted your phone since you flashed the 4.2.11.1 upgrade? This happens to me every time I flash a ROM update for Cyanogen, but it is resolved after the first reboot. I would give that a shot.
@Shadow....Yet again a great example of why people are ditching XDA and moving on to other forums for their dev needs. Funny how number of posts somehow adds you to this elitist group of complainers.
@XDA....Can we please change the membership ratings? My proposal is:
Junior Member -1-50 posts
Member - 51-100 posts
Senior Member/Verified *****/I rule the world so you better know that prior to posting anything - 101+ posts
Feel free to pick one out of the 3 for the last category.....but I am reallying hoping for the second choice...cause it pretty much describes how most of your "Senior Members" act.
....And before I get flamed/suspended.....remember I said "most", not all.
oh damn, i thought i was in that forum... my bad. but thanks bwinger for answering me. yes, that seems to have worked.
You should try wiping and use the base rom and try cyan's rom again.
In settings change timeout to 2min or something higher.
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@Shadow....Yet again a great example of why people are ditching XDA and moving on to other forums for their dev needs. Funny how number of posts somehow adds you to this elitist group of complainers.
@XDA....Can we please change the membership ratings? My proposal is:
Junior Member -1-50 posts
Member - 51-100 posts
Senior Member/Verified *****/I rule the world so you better know that prior to posting anything - 101+ posts
Feel free to pick one out of the 3 for the last category.....but I am reallying hoping for the second choice...cause it pretty much describes how most of your "Senior Members" act.
....And before I get flamed/suspended.....remember I said "most", not all.
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I have a better idea ppl under 500 posts should not be able to make thread at all.
And bwiner just stfu we r right and u r wrong this belongs to Q&A or CY's thread matter of fact cuz ppl r too lazy to read and reaserch half of time their questions dont even get answeared cuz ppl get fed up with crap like i must have reported 6 posts today that should've been in Q&A or other thread.
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@Chris....Have you rebooted your phone since you flashed the 4.2.11.1 upgrade? This happens to me every time I flash a ROM update for Cyanogen, but it is resolved after the first reboot. I would give that a shot.
@Shadow....Yet again a great example of why people are ditching XDA and moving on to other forums for their dev needs. Funny how number of posts somehow adds you to this elitist group of complainers.
@XDA....Can we please change the membership ratings? My proposal is:
Junior Member -1-50 posts
Member - 51-100 posts
Senior Member/Verified *****/I rule the world so you better know that prior to posting anything - 101+ posts
Feel free to pick one out of the 3 for the last category.....but I am reallying hoping for the second choice...cause it pretty much describes how most of your "Senior Members" act.
....And before I get flamed/suspended.....remember I said "most", not all.
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Honestly, I don't think shadowch31 was out of line whatsoever. It's not being elitist to chastise others for not following simple rules. The OP is a selfish ass, who seems to be under the impression that this forum is dedicated to him and his problems alone. Like I always say, if everyone who had an issue with a ROM posted a new thread, this forum would be absolutely un-navigable. The CyanogenMod has nearly 10,000 posts. Assuming only half of those are issue-related, that would be 5,000 more threads scattered about this forum.
Maybe people aren't ditching XDA because others are putting them in their place. Maybe people are ditching XDA because of all the morons flooding the site with garbage. This is a development forum, not a personalized troubleshooting team for each user.
To the OP, stick to AndroidCommunity or a similar site. If you keep up this crap, you're not going to be welcome here for very long.
ironically most of the garbage on here is from ppl who flame lower ranking members. who gave you the authority to disrespect or even abate other members? Bottomline we ought to have more respect in here for all members. we all started as juniors...but besides that you are a loser if you waste your time arguing with people you don't even know anyway.
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@Shadow....Yet again a great example of why people are ditching XDA and moving on to other forums for their dev needs. Funny how number of posts somehow adds you to this elitist group of complainers.
@XDA....Can we please change the membership ratings? My proposal is:
Junior Member -1-50 posts
Member - 51-100 posts
Senior Member/Verified *****/I rule the world so you better know that prior to posting anything - 101+ posts
Feel free to pick one out of the 3 for the last category.....but I am reallying hoping for the second choice...cause it pretty much describes how most of your "Senior Members" act.
....And before I get flamed/suspended.....remember I said "most", not all.
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Oohhh a feisty one I see, makes it more enjoyable extinguishing your little flame there.
If this had not been his very first post (proving yet again why people should be forced to read the rules and learn what a search button is and it's function) and had it been posted in the correct thead which is ALWAYS on the front page here I would have answered happily. Also might help if this wasn't about the fifth post alone today that has been reported for being in the wrong place I MAY have been nicer.
Now as it happens the OP has held his hands up and said he posted in the wrong place and apologized which is fair enough and hopefully it will be removed and put into the right place where it is going to get the proper attention.
Now we come to you and your oh so inflated ego and possible super hero complex 'coming to the rescue of the weak and feeble' oh please! What's up didn't daddy pay you enough attention growing up? See we can all be a-holes now can't we, just some of us do it with flair
Now you can change my Senior Membership to 'You Been ***** Slapped'
Have a great life, not really I mean it!
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ironically most of the garbage on here is from ppl who flame lower ranking members. who gave you the authority to disrespect or even abate other members? Bottomline we ought to have more respect in here for all members. we all started as juniors...but besides that you are a loser if you waste your time arguing with people you don't even know anyway.
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Your perfectly right.
Now go off and find my first and every post afterwards and IF you find one out of place then I'll never speak again.
What can I say, I learnt to read the rules first. Not my fault!
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Oohhh a feisty one I see, makes it more enjoyable extinguishing your little flame there.
If this had not been his very first post (proving yet again why people should be forced to read the rules and learn what a search button is and it's function) and had it been posted in the correct thead which is ALWAYS on the front page here I would have answered happily. Also might help if this wasn't about the fifth post alone today that has been reported for being in the wrong place I MAY have been nicer.
Now as it happens the OP has held his hands up and said he posted in the wrong place and apologized which is fair enough and hopefully it will be removed and put into the right place where it is going to get the proper attention.
Now we come to you and your oh so inflated ego and possible super hero complex 'coming to the rescue of the weak and feeble' oh please! What's up didn't daddy pay you enough attention growing up? See we can all be a-holes now can't we, just some of us do it with flair
Now you can change my Senior Membership to 'You Been ***** Slapped'
Have a great life, not really I mean it!
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I never argued whether or not this was posted in the incorrect section....it obviously was. That being said....look at how you responded to someone who simply posted in the incorrect section. Wouldnt it have been easier to just say it was in the wrong section and move it?
And whats with the daddy jokes (I think it was supposed to be a joke)?? How old are you? You are really showing your lack of maturity with your responses. And if you didnt notice.....the only peeps that support you in flaming my post are....thats right....you guessed it...Senior Members. Lets try to keep things in perspective here. I have no ego. Someone posted with a problem....and I gave him/her a possible solution. I get paid to do this sir.....so my ego gets its fill of praise at work....I do not need some forum for that....unlike some.
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I never argued whether or not this was posted in the incorrect section....it obviously was. That being said....look at how you responded to someone who simply posted in the incorrect section. Wouldnt it have been easier to just say it was in the wrong section and move it?
And whats with the daddy jokes (I think it was supposed to be a joke)?? How old are you? You are really showing your lack of maturity with your responses. And if you didnt notice.....the only peeps that support you in flaming my post are....thats right....you guessed it...Senior Members. Lets try to keep things in perspective here. I have no ego. Someone posted with a problem....and I gave him/her a possible solution. I get paid to do this sir.....so my ego gets its fill of praise at work....I do not need some forum for that....unlike some.
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Lmfao
So you get paid for this? What coming into a forum as a defender to the weak? Man I want your job
Oh no its cool man...
We make threads with personal questions....
We now allow threads with fake ROM's that are jokes....
We will kill your cat(s)
Yes... You are in the DEV thread, clicked the right link!
damn, so much flaming. this thread should have been closed a long time ago. no one is going anywhere. Mod/Admin, Please close this thread
shadowch31 said:
Lmfao
So you get paid for this? What coming into a forum as a defender to the weak? Man I want your job
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Yet again.....another childish response. Instead of explaining to you what I get paid for......I will show you.....its better that way.
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i think you will find that that hoax was put to an end and the guy given a warning
....facts....straight....helps.....
[email protected]! Flashing
C'mon. I don't even have 50 posts here and I'll already tell you all that this isn't a board for making almost 100% of the thread a flame war. In fact, there's no board for that. Hopefully OP can get his/her answer and we'll all be good.
Even my post is irrelevant. Yay for contribution. :|
I love these threads, they are just funny to see internet fighting. At least the wrecking crew made people laugh and did it with style where even the op had a good time and joined in.................. I miss the good old days
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Oh no its cool man...
We make threads with personal questions....
We now allow threads with fake ROM's that are jokes....
We will kill your cat(s)
Yes... You are in the DEV thread, clicked the right link!
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We killed plenty of cats in the Q&A forums a few months back and had plenty of personal ?s and maybe even a couple fake roms
You might have stepped into a time loop to bout last sept's dream Q&A
This is just a general message to those using roms made by developers here on xda.
Stop F-ING complaining. You are paying absolutely nothing for some really cool stuff for your phone. These guys put in hours and hours of work and share it for FREE!!
Enjoy their work... Thank them... Buy them a few beers... And if you don't like what they're doing go somewhere else!!!
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This is just a general message to those using roms made by developers here on xda.
Stop F-ING complaining. You are paying absolutely nothing for some really cool stuff for your phone. These guys put in hours and hours of work and share it for FREE!!
Enjoy their work... Thank them... Buy them a few beers... And if you don't like what they're doing go somewhere else!!!
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I hope they all get this message man
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I agree. These guys put their phones on the lines to bring us these roms. At the least say thanks
das BAMF sense 3.0 rocking the bolt
no valid point everyone
yea its ok to post bugs and problems etc thats important because it helps the creators fix problems, but don't complain that everyone sucks and the devs suck, because guess what, these people have jobs, life's, and do this stuff for fun and in no way are these roms going to be 100 percent perfect every time, not even stock TB that came from HTC was perfect.
dfox007 said:
This is just a general message to those using roms made by developers here on xda.
Stop F-ING complaining. You are paying absolutely nothing for some really cool stuff for your phone. These guys put in hours and hours of work and share it for FREE!!
Enjoy their work... Thank them... Buy them a few beers... And if you don't like what they're doing go somewhere else!!!
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Couldn't agree with you more! If you have issues with a ROM that make it "suck" switch ROMs or learn how to develop and make your own ROM.
The worst is all the people *****ing in the CM7 thread.
what's with all these stupid threads lately...it's like the days of our lives around here
i miss the days when threads were only technical in nature...
Old MuckenMire said:
what's with all these stupid threads lately...it's like the days of our lives around here
i miss the days when threads were only technical in nature...
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Then don't read the GENERAL forum. If you want threads of a technical nature stick to the DEVELOPMENT forum, it's not a hard concept...It's a bit ironic that you are calling other peoples threads "stupid"..
Well said.
I would like to lodge a complaint about people complaining.
I'm grateful for the work the dev,s do as i don't know crap about any of this.
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Dnakaman said:
I would like to lodge a complaint about people complaining.
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*golf clap*
turbosrrgood said:
Then don't read the GENERAL forum. If you want threads of a technical nature stick to the DEVELOPMENT forum, it's not a hard concept...It's a bit ironic that you are calling other peoples threads "stupid"..
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Actually there are plenty of ways to have technical questions that have zero reason to be in the Dev subforum. Yet conversely there are always plenty of posts in General that are people having some issue and who are on a custom ROM.
New to android... here I thought only the blackberry people *****ed!
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..It's a bit ironic that you are calling other peoples threads "stupid"..
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Man, you're not complaining that I called this thread stupid, are you? Now THAT'S irony...
I agree. How can you complain about something that's free, and is also take it or leave it. I give kudos to the developers for all the time they put into the builds, and then maintaining them.
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New to android... here I thought only the blackberry people *****ed!
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Now, that's funny!
I noticed a lot of this behavior as of late. Imo, I think the devs should make the rooting process harder. Keep the children at bay so to speak.
I see it time and again, people asking questions that have clearly been answered in the OP or within the last few pages of a thread. They take no time to research anything. Most complain that the search utility is crap so why even try. I've never had problems with the search utility. It may not be the most robust tool but it works if you take the time to use it.
The demanding and complaining within threads has reached levels I haven't seen before on XDA. People need to remember that the devs write this stuff in their spare time. They are not obligated to do anything for you. You can make a request but that doesn't mean they will even consider it. There was a day when devs specifically put in the OP "This is my rom, you can make requests but I make this for me, take it as it is. Im just sharing witht he rest of you." But people have come to a point where they expect the devs to listen and do what they suggest.
In rooting your phone, you are voiding your warranty and taking extreme risks with your $500 Thunderbolt. In taking these risks it is assumed that you are a responsible person. Complaining about things or asking questions about things that have been clearly posted is not acting in a manner of a responsible person. Read fully before even starting the rooting process.
Just my opinion of course. But level of maturity on XDA has dipped to a level that is utterly absurd at times.
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I noticed a lot of this behavior as of late. Imo, I think the devs should make the rooting process harder. Keep the children at bay so to speak.
I see it time and again, people asking questions that have clearly been answered in the OP or within the last few pages of a thread. They take no time to research anything. Most complain that the search utility is crap so why even try. I've never had problems with the search utility. It may not be the most robust tool but it works if you take the time to use it.
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I agree about not having an easy way to root, and to some extent I agree about researching. I don't agree that this site has a functional search tool, when I search for something it brings up tons of unrelated stuff and if I add a little more to the search criteria to narrow the results it then says there's nothing matching my search, this is with both searching for threads and searching post within a thread. I was searching for something the other day and the post results didn't include any of the words I put into the search box. I do think people should look for an answer first but when there's 200 pages to go though it can take forever to find a simple answer, I think a faq post after the original post would work wonders for devs, then a lot of unnecessary post would be avoided but of course there will still be some people that are to lazy to skin through faq's.
Firstly i'll admit this may come off as a rant, but i will be making some valid points that i believe need to be addressed
Secondly, i really don't care if anybody finds this offensive because well points need to be made and sometimes they have to be bluntly made.
Thirdly, i'm sure many of you will agree with me on these points.
Fourthly, @Mods i understand this may come off a bit harsh to some people but again things need to be said.
Finally, please enjoy this read
Well here's the story of how i ended up writing this thread, ever since the Galaxy S3 came out many of you probably noticed that i was constantly helping people every single day, basically answering the same questions day in and day out. For a while i was fine with that, but the past few months i've almost ceased posting entirely, why you ask? Because answering the same questions everyday when their are plenty of stickies, and plenty of threads already asking those exact questions just got tiring and frustrating. Its very simple to search the forums as well as google, and to post a thread asking about a problem that can be answered by simply looking 1 to 5 threads down is just laziness and not needed. I understand people want answers quickly, but sometimes where you post these issues becomes an issue as well.
Issues #1: READ THE ORIGINAL POST (OP)
Example A: Bajee11 brought rootbox to our phones, and now he's closed his thread. Why? Because people couldn't just read the original post and keep non-development talk out of his thread.
Thread can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2134052
If you read his original post right below the downloads section is a Non-development | Discussion | Support banner in big bold letters with a link to where non-development talk should be discussed, simple enough to read and understand. Its not hidden away at all, so their should be no reason why somebody can't see it.
What happened? Somebody flashed the i9300 (european) rom onto their i535 (verizon) phone. And essentially bricked the phone (wouldn't boot up) and that user posted about it asking for support. (ALL posts in their have since been removed so i can't show them to you but please take my word for it)
At this point, support should not be asked in the developers thread when he's stated not to post non development stuff in his thread.
But that's now what happened, people started helping him which is nice to do, but again in the wrong place. And posts continued which clogged up the thread and made things more difficult. Eventually the developer asked that it be stopped and taken somewhere else so that his thread wasn't clogged up with that junk, and this is what happened.
Originally Posted by Internet Guy
Don't be a ****. This forum is here to not only provide Roms and various tools for android users, but also to provide help when needed.
Take a chill pill, friend.
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Bajee11: Dude, this is my thread so I expect the rules to be followed. I have over 20 threads to maintain and I don't want to come back here for every single post when it's not development related. You guys have no clue how hard it is to track bugs when users don't follow any rules and specially when you got several devices to maintain. Not only do you not know what a development thread is, you even take on me for pointing out this not the right place for bricked phone discussion? This is why XDA has different sections for these kind of things and users like you should learn that. Anyways, closing thread.
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Somebody goes and decides to challenge him instead of being respectful and taking NON ROM DEVELOPMENT talk somewhere else, it could've easily been dealt with in PM's, or searching the forum, or help me god making yet another thread about it.
This user that had an issue could've solved his problem by simply looking at this sticky thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079399
Why is this a problem?
Well quite frankly the people that were using the Rootbox rom now have to sit, wait and wonder whether support will continue for D2VZW or if they should move on, just because some people couldn't read the OP and follow the simple requests, and had to feel the need to then challenge the OP instead of just respecting him.
Oh but that only applies to one rom my rom is fine
Have you ever tried to figure what bugs are in a rom only to be forced to read a million posts that aren't related to that rom at all but instead somebody doing something stupid resulting in user error not rom error? I know i have, its so frustrating to have to skim through 20 pages when in reality if people could keep things where they belong we wouldn't have that issue. Once you flash something that's not stock on the rom, ANY BUGS that occur are not the roms fault, because their is no way of knowing whether whatever you flashed caused it or not.
Flash a different kernel, then have x,y,z errors? Post in the KERNEL thread about it, i guarantee you'll get more kernel support their than in the Rom thread. You could make a simple post in the Rom thread and say "hey guys i flashed X kernel and now Y isn't working, just letting others know" Bam end of story, its simple, alerts other users and keeps thing clean.
Okay so that's one post but i see a million of them, okay well lets say User A posts that, then users B-Y post irrelevant nonsense then user Z posts the same thing as A, that's why you see it a bunch. Because B-Y or a combination had irrelevant information in their posts.
Solutions:
Option 1: I realize this is hard but please people have some respect and self control and keep posts where they are relevant. Or maybe the mod's should just start warning/giving infractions to people that can't obey the rules and have some damn respect when a developer asks you to please take business somewhere else.
Option 2: Instead of cluttering up the development thread, go make some thread in Q/A even though that'll go against my second issue it'll be better than clogging up relevant rom information/development, that users want to see. I'm sorry but if you brick your phone flashing something that's not meant for your phone that your own damn fault for not reading what you're download and flashing.
Option 3: If you can't read the OP then you shouldn't be rooting your phone. Honestly folks its not hard to read the OP, its their for a reason, not for you to skip down to the downloads link, flash the rom, and then say "X and Y are missing" when in the OP it clearly states they aren't there. And what do you know that's one more useless post.
Time for me to take a breath...
Issue #2: Not using the search function
I realize this may be hard for people to understand but its their for a reason, not to just look pretty. Its sole purpose is to try and keep things clean and help users to find helpful information. How many of you use google search everyday? i know i do, probably over 100 times a day and its very helpful, so i KNOW that you other users have used a search engine before, so why not use the one on XDA? Its not rocket science and its got plenty of options to help you narrow stuff down.
Hell even before you post a thread, it'll automatically search for relevant threads related to your title.
Notice: When you enter a thread title the system will search for similar threads which have already been posted. That should help you to find answers.
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Now tell me are you blind, or do you choose to ignore it? I'm guessing its the second one. Or maybe people are too lazy to just read the titles of threads, i guarantee you whatever issue you are having somebody else has had and already got an answer for it. Obviously we can't force people to use it, but please people, google is your friend, the search bar is your friend.
Solutions:
Option 1: Up the post requirement for development sections, i know i know this probably will be hated but its clear that it's needed. People still can't seem to just get it right anymore. Maybe if they have to spend a little more time actually using the forum they'll actually start to realize all these helpful things around them.
Option 2: Can we just start banning people? haha i kid i kid. But seriously, can we give Rom developers the right to edit posts in their respective threads, so if they deem something as pointless, then bam deleted
At this point i'm out of breath and tired from staring at the screen.
But i'll leave with this 99% of errors are user errors not rom errors. Yes that's right i'm blaming the users, because hey its your fault for messing something up. I flash rom's everyday and yet i don't have these crazy errors that others have, but hey i'm flashing stuff that's meant for my phone People really need to stop being dumb and start reading the OP it contains so much information, i swear some of you will flashing anything even if in the OP it states "THIS WILL DESTROY YOUR PHONE" and guess what, you'll flash it anyways because you're too lazy to take ONE minute to read it. You could read while making your nandroid backup, oh hey that's a great idea And when you have an issue, just use the search function.
I understand we were all noobs at once, but still... like i said, most issues are user error.
TLTR:
-Please read OP's
-Please use the search bar
-Please post issues in their respective threads
-Please don't post irrelevant nonsense in development threads, that's not the place for it.
-Please if you flash anything not stock with the rom, don't blame the rom.
-Please post rom issues in rom threads, and kernel issues in kernel threads.
-Please if you do something stupid, keep it out of the rom/kernel thread.
-Please read stickies, they contain more information than your heart desires and will help you in the long run.
-Please try and understand where i am coming from
Oh and again, i don't care if i offended some of you.
-NeverEndingXsin
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Haha, you quoted that?
I don't let phone stuff get to me. Life's too short. But maybe this will help, maybe not
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On accident. I'm so used to replying with a quote that I forgot not to.
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bobAbooE said:
Haha, you quoted that?
I don't let phone stuff get to me. Life's too short. But maybe this will help, maybe not
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The final straw for me was that a recognized developer closed his thread due to people being rude, inconsiderate, and not reading the OP. Figured it was time to say something.
Neverendingxsin said:
The final straw for me was that a recognized developer closed his thread due to people being rude, inconsiderate, and not reading the OP. Figured it was time to say something.
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Happened when I was on the Rezound as well. People made Erishasnobattery really mad, and he and Apophis closed off the paradigm thread.
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Obaterista93 said:
Happened when I was on the Rezound as well. People made Erishasnobattery really mad, and he and Apophis closed off the paradigm thread.
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Its a damn shame things go down like that. But i can't blame the developers for getting sick of it. People expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter, but that's not how life is.
Good thread Neverendingxsin. I've had this problem too and had to get mods to intervene multiple times due to childish behavior -_-
PureMotive said:
Good thread Neverendingxsin. I've had this problem too and had to get mods to intervene multiple times due to childish behavior -_-
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Thanks As a user myself i find it hard enough to deal with, as a developer i imagine its a whole lot worse. Just trying to make things a bit easier for you guys!
This really needed to be said. People feel way to entitled around here. You don't realize what you have until you lose it.
luis86dr said:
This really needed to be said. People feel way to entitled around here. You don't realize what you have until you lose it.
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I couldn't agree more. Everything that i know to this day about android i learned by reading threads, reading stickies, and paying attention to problems others are having and the solutions to them. Its not hard to do.
Neverendingxsin said:
I couldn't agree more. Everything that i know to this day about android i learned by reading threads, reading stickies, and paying attention to problems others are having and the solutions to them. Its not hard to do.
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If only everyone could have that mentality, it would make the drama on XDA far less than what it is.
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If only everyone could have that mentality, it would make the drama on XDA far less than what it is.
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Keyword: "If" i doubt that would ever happen
The problem is the people that post all that clutter aren't going to find this thread. They are way too lazy.
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llama555 said:
The problem is the people that post all that clutter aren't going to find this thread. They are way too lazy.
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Not even that they won't find the thread, but they'll just skip over it. And then anyone that actually opens the thread most likely won't bother to read this OP either...
That's the truth
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Unfortunately, it's always going to happen. The best we can do is report the offending posts. The more you report, the more the mods, and admins will take notice. They will in turn, notify the offenders, and remove the posts/threads.
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Unfortunately, it's always going to happen. The best we can do is report the offending posts. The more you report, the more the mods, and admins will take notice. They will in turn, notify the offenders, and remove the posts/threads.
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Mhmmmm. But when developers decide they don't want to develop for a particular phone due to users being like that it starts to become an issue.
Neverendingxsin said:
Mhmmmm. But when developers decide they don't want to develop for a particular phone due to users being like that it starts to become an issue.
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That's why you report the offending posts, as soon as you see them.
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That's why you report the offending posts, as soon as you see them.
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Shouldn't be necessary in the first place. My entire point is that people should be reading OPs and showing respect for them.