[Q] Need Help: Using the Nexus S In Japan - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
Hello. In a nutshell, I would like to know how in the world I can get my unlocked Nexus S to work in Japan with respect to data transmission.
Early this year I developed an interest in foreign smartphones as all we had here in Japan was the (IMHO) horrid Xperia X10 and the wonderful HTC Desire. I have purchased a number of phones from overseas (either Hong Kong or the UK) including:
HTC Mini (HK)
HTC Desire (HK)
Xperia X2 (UK)
Galaxy S (UK)
Galaxy Tab (UK)
Nexus S (USA)
Now here's the thing: ALL of these phones were unlocked yet NONE of them allowed any data transmission except the HTC Mini. To this day I fail to understand why.
When I got the HTC Mini, I was using the Mopera U APN/service. I put my Docomo SIM card into the Mini and without doing anything at all, it had data connectivity from the start. To this day I question if it was something related to Windows Mobile, as all of the other phones I listed above are Android (except for the X2).
I had Mopera U with all of these other phones and yet NONE of them work, even after I have tried multiple APN services and have manually typed in the APN settings (i.e. mpr2.bizho.net, spmode.ne.jp, mopera.flat.foma.ne.jp, etc).
Just yesterday I received my unlocked Nexus S from the USA and while it hardly came as a surprise, I am nonetheless infuriated once again that the phone refuses to connect to the wireless network.
It should be noted however that the very first time I attempted to connect the Nexus S to the mpr2.bizho.net APN, for a scant one second, the 3G data transmission icon appeared in the taskbar at the top of the screen, but then immediately disappeared. Since that initial setting, it has never reappeared when I toggle the APN.
Can anyone please offer some advice here? I fail to believe that there is absolutely no way to use this phone in Japan. With all the different network bands and whatnot supported by this phone, surely it has to work. I am still at a loss as to why the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab failed to connect to the network here when both are in fact, available for purchase domestically. Are the manufacturers actually creating modified band phones for each country despite making the same exact product?
Docomo is absolutely no help whatsoever, claiming that the ONLY band supported here is "3G" and denying any understanding of the other band spectrums (i.e. Quad Band GSM, Tri-Band HSPA, etc).
Some of the IT-related people I know have suggested that my phone is in fact, NOT unlocked and thus the problem stems from that, however considering that the phone will instantly register the NTT DOCOMO network and I can make calls and receive SMS messages, I fail to believe the phone is locked.
I will bring up a point that a friend passed onto me: They suggested that perhaps my problem is that the phone won't work because the previous carrier settings are still on it. The seller on eBay however stated that this was a factory unlocked phone and thus I don't think this applies, though I was a bit confused as to why there was a T-Mobile SIM card inside the Nexus S box, which led me to believe that perhaps the phone is unlocked but it is "defaulted" to T-Mobile network values?
Anyway if anyone could be of some assistance here I would greatly appreciate it.
The phone is unlocked, and I believe all nexus s come with a Tmobile SIM in the US, since it will only work on Tmobile's Network for 3G. From what I can find about NTT DOCOMO, it sues 3G 2100 band, so i don't see a reason why it would not work.
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps/network_info.php?nid=5234&org_id=4222&cid=3027#ninfo
Hi, thanks for the reply. Honestly I have no clue whatsoever why it won't work either. But as I mentioned it's not just the Nexus S, it's also every other phone I've bought (save for the HTC Mini as mentioned) and even some that I tried out and didn't buy because they didn't work. Docomo just keeps spitting out their lame "We can't be sure about any phones not sold by Docomo" excuse that basically amounts to them lacking the technical expertise to answer a basic question about their own network infrastructure.
I can't even begin to express how infuriating this is, because Japan is so horribly behind the times with mobile phones. It's ironic that the country that basically created mobile technology has no ability to further it's development. I remember coming here in 2003 (I'm from the US) and was blown away at the phones having 3G, front facing cameras, VIDEO chat, etc. Yet lo and behold Japan only got LTE THIS month (and only via DOCOMO's USB dongle at that) though to be fair it had Wi-MAX since last July (though to this day there is not a single phone that uses it).
We just got the Galaxy S at the end of October for crying out loud. People here want garbage like 1Seg wireless TV and the mobile wallet (Stored Fare) system and thus the Japanese manufacturers (specifically Sharp and Toshiba) have made phones that have said features but they are just plain awful. Sharp in particular can't seem to make phones that work efficiently as the Lynx and Galapagos models are quite unresponsive. So naturally I want to get something like the Nexus S because it's both state-of-the-art and (IMHO) a great phone.
Can't really help you much but based on the specs those phones you got should technically work on the networks there...
I've been to Tokyo with my Nexus One but left my AT&T sim in it (yea I was using AT&T in the US when the phone was meant for T-mobile) and we desperately had to use Google Maps since we were lost in Roppongi... so I bit the bullet and enabled data roaming and it picked up a 3G signal and was actually quite fast for the few minutes I used it. That's all the help I can offer, sorry, lol.
Thanks for the reply...I think perhaps it worked for you because of roaming agreements and whatnot between AT&T and Docomo.
I can't be sure, but something tells me that the Japanese carriers actually ban foreign mobiles from accessing their network directly via IMEI, but that fails to explain why the HTC Mini worked without a problem.
I have the feeling that you need to enter a specific set of connection settings for DoCoMo.
You mentioned that the HTC mini worked just by inserting the SIM card. On my Xperia X1 (also WM), it would automatically change my settings depending on which SIM card/carrier I inserted. Why don't you insert your DoCoMo into the Mini, copy the connection settings (manually copy all the values) and then use them on the Nexus S?
If i were you I would do the following:
Settings - Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Access Point Names - Delete All the APN's in there, then use one of the DoCoMo ones listed here:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist
Ensure you have the "Type" section filled with "default,supl" and that you have it selected after SAVING it.
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="025" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="025" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="026" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="026" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="027" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="027" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="029" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="029" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="030" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="030" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="031" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
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<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="033" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="033" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="034" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="034" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="035" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="035" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="036" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="036" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="037" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="037" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="038" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="038" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="039" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="039" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="040" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="040" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="041" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="041" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="042" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="042" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="043" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="043" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="044" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="044" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="045" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
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<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="046" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
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<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo" mcc="405" mnc="047" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.INTERNET" type="default,supl" />
<apn carrier="TA TA DoCoMo MMS" mcc="405" mnc="047" apn="TATA.DOCOMO.MMS" mmsc="http://mmsc/" mmsproxy="10.124.26.94" mmsport="8799" type="mms" />
Thanks/Problem Solved
Thanks to everyone who offered help. I've no idea why, but the APN "MOPERA U" worked, though it didn't originally the first dozen-or-so times I tried.
As far as the 3G bands go, NS can take band I/IV/VIII while Japan uses I/V/IX (850/1700-1800/2100).
Band IV runs on 1700+2100 aka AWS.
[Q] Quick Carrier Question (Unlocked...TMobile?)
Hello. It's been ages since I've been in the USA and thus have become somewhat unfamiliar with some aspects of the telecommunication companies.
Can someone explain why it is that the [unlocked] Nexus S will only work with TMobile? Does this have to do with their network infrastructure? How is it possible that with all the bands the Nexus S supports, it only works with T-Mobile? I don't even understand why Google would sell an unlocked phone if (for US residents) it ONLY works on the one carrier. They might as well lock it.
The phone will work on any GSM network for voice.
It will work on any GSM provider for EDGE.
It will only work on T-Mobile in the US for 3G/HSPA because it doesn't support all 3G bands (like AT&T uses 850 and 1900, neither of which is on the Nexus S).
Edit, here are the frequencies it supports: GSM frequencies 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 and HSDPA frequencies 900 / 1700 / 2100.
A lot of people get confused because they think the GSM 850/1900 means it should work on AT&T, but that's voice/EDGE only. Different radio for the data side.
Ah, I see. Thanks. It's funny, when I lived in the US and had T-Mobile (up to around 2006) it was by far the worst carrier with absolutely HORRID reception.
TokyoGuy said:
Ah, I see. Thanks. It's funny, when I lived in the US and had T-Mobile (up to around 2006) it was by far the worst carrier with absolutely HORRID reception.
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It still is. LOL.
Actually, like every other cell carrier, it just depend on where they live. T-Mo's great near my office, it sucks at my house.
P.S - as someone pointed out in your other thread I just read, T-Mo uses AWS for 3G...it splits the up and down traffic over the 1700 and 2100 data freqs. I don't know if it will actually work on an exclusive 1700 or exclusive 2100 network.
distortedloop said:
P.S - as someone pointed out in your other thread I just read, T-Mo uses AWS for 3G...it splits the up and down traffic over the 1700 and 2100 data freqs. I don't know if it will actually work on an exclusive 1700 or exclusive 2100 network.
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I did a test on it, it will not work, it only gets EDGE
you need both bands 1700+2100 to work properly to get 3G
Make sure the Cell Phone Service Provider works with 1700 + 2100 to get 3G
it will NOT WORK if you only have 2100 or only 1700
it needs both to do a proper AWS connection
AllGamer said:
I did a test on it, it will not work, it only gets EDGE
you need both bands 1700+2100 to work properly to get 3G
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So the phone doesn't really support 1700/2100, it supports AWS (1700+2100). That's not surprising, but the specs can be confusing, especially since on some phones they say AWS/1700/1900/2100...differentiating between AWS and 1700 or 2100.
What network did you test it on?
distortedloop said:
So the phone doesn't really support 1700/2100, it supports AWS (1700+2100). That's not surprising, but the specs can be confusing, especially since on some phones they say AWS/1700/1900/2100...differentiating between AWS and 1700 or 2100.
What network did you test it on?
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my test, might have been inaccurate
I tried my Bell, Fido, Rogers SIM on the SNS (900/1700/2100), it all worked, but was EDGE only at best
I also tried the WIND (Tmobile) SIM on the SGS (850/1900/2100) it briefly gave a bleep of 3G indicator then it went away
so my theory was that WIND should work on 2100, but nope, it needed the 1700 to form a proper 3G connection
... my real intention was to keep using my SGS i9000m, if the test was successful
seems like now my choices are either stay with the SNS or go with the SGS SGH-T959
AllGamer said:
seems like now my choices are either stay with the SNS or go with the SGS SGH-T959
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That's the T-Mo US Vibrant, right? I love that that phone will work on T-Mo and AT&T 3G (1900 only) here in the states. I got my friend one to use on AT&T. Ironically, he hates it and usually uses his crappy old iPhone 3G (he just can't make the paradigm shift from iOS to Android). I've told him he should give it back to me, but he won't. LOL.
TokyoGuy said:
Thanks to everyone who offered help. I've no idea why, but the APN "MOPERA U" worked, though it didn't originally the first dozen-or-so times I tried.
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Congrats, but you should be wary of huge data charges.
I have an SGSVibrant (Bell) and took it to Japan as well last November. It seems that docomo blocks non-docomo imei (hence you can connect for a split second initially) and you "should" have needed (because you seemed to have gotten it to work now) to get a docomo employee to unblock the imei. It only cost ~400yen.
BUT, if it is a non-docomo phone it is not covered by any of the flat rate unlimited data plans but subject to per $/Mb tethering charge (read. HUGE costs). Search the SGS forums for a more detailed discussion (can't find it right now, sorry)
The frequency number thing is too confusing for 3G, so using band code is much more ideal.
T-Mobile and Wind use band IV
ATT, Bell, and Rogers use band II and V
Related
Understanding the Japanese mobile background to use your SIM-Unlocked handset in JPN
If you want to use MMS with your own SIM-unlocked handset, see " [MMS][MOD] Mms.apk for any SoftBank (Japan) SIMs - JB Android 4.2.2 or newer only". Availability of SMS in Japan SoftBank - Available EMobile (eAccess) (currently a part of SoftBank group) - Available KDDI (au) - Available NTT docomo - Available Availability of MMS in Japan SoftBank - Available (for both mobile phone numbers and email addresss) EMobile (eAccess) - Available (for both mobile phone numbers and email addrsses) KDDI (au) - Partially Available (for both mobile phone numbers and email addresses) (KDDI's original and unique mailing system is used for Feature phones, like NTT docomo. MMS is used partially for Smartphones such as iPhone.) NTT docomo - Not Available at all (Because NTT docomo use their own original and unique mailing system such as crowd based "docomo mail", and/or "sp-mode mail" for Smartphones includling iPhone, and "i-mode mail" for Feature phones, instead of MMS) Networks Remark: so called "4G LTE" is not real 4G itself, but 3.9G or pre-4G. Real 4G is not LTE but LTE-Advanced. 2G (GSM) is not used in Japan at all. Previously PDC was used as 2G instead of GSM. PDC has been abolished already. SoftBank: 3G - W-CDMA (900MHz, 2.1GHz), 4G - LTE (2.1GHz, 1.8GHz (identical with EMobile's 1.8GHz ), 900MHz will be added in April, 2014)) EMobile: 3G - W-CDMA (1.7GHz), 4G - LTE (1.8GHz (also used for SoftBank's "Double-LTE" service)) KDDI (au): 3G - CDMA2000 (800MHz, 2.1GHz), 4G - LTE (800MHz, 1.5GHz, 2.1GHz) NTT docomo - 3G -W-CDMA (800MHz, 1.7GHz, 2.1GHz), 4G - LTE (800MHz, 1.5GHz,1.8GHz, 2.1GHz) Unlocking the SIM-locked handsets which carriers (mobile phone operators) sold SoftBank- Not Available at all EMobile - Some handsets are unlocked initially, such as Nexus 5. KDDI (au) - Not Available at all NTT docomo - Available on smartphones except iPhone (The handling fee is JPY3,150.)
[Q] Where to buy a s6 edge unlocked and international?
As many of you may know, at&t verizon and the whole lot decided it'd be a great idea to delete apps like smart manager and preload their own bloatware. I see people on youtube from android authority and phone arena and such making first looks and tips&tricks videos and their phones seem like international unlocked versions. I'm wondering if anyone here knows where I could go about purchasing one? I tried amazon but it came in yesterday and it was clearly fake so I shipped it back. If amazon is my only option, or ebay, do any of you know like...legitimate sellers/merchants from those sites that I can buy from? I really don't want to get it and return it again over and over. It's a hassle. Thanks yall.
Check out Never MSRP that's where I bought a SM-G925F Global phone from. I recently switched to an international phone (SM-G920I). Both work on GSM networks like AT&T and T-Mobile. You just have to choose which specific radio bands is right for you. Also note that some are saying the I/F phones aren't carrier aggregated or fine tuned for major US carriers so your LTE speeds may not be quite on par as carrier specific devices. But for me my SM-G920I works great on T-Mobile. Anyhow there are other sellers out there but Never MSRP where very helpful with returns and fast with shipping. Sent from my SM-G920I using XDA Free mobile app
www.clove.co.uk If you are outside of the European Union then they will ship it at the VAT free price. They also offer the free option of removing the region lock by making the 5 minute call first.
s-one said: Check out Never MSRP that's where I bought a SM-G925F Global phone from. I recently switched to an international phone (SM-G920I). Both work on GSM networks like AT&T and T-Mobile. You just have to choose which specific radio bands is right for you. Also note that some are saying the I/F phones aren't carrier aggregated or fine tuned for major US carriers so your LTE speeds may not be quite on par as carrier specific devices. But for me my SM-G920I works great on T-Mobile. Sent from my SM-G920I using XDA Free mobile app Click to expand... Click to collapse Had to remove all the links you included or it wouldn't let me reply/quote you. Anyways, I looked around and found out that the i version is for latam and this is what I found: Also known as Samsung Galaxy S6 edge SM-G925 Available versions: SM-G9250 (China, HK), SM-G925A (AT&T), SM-G925F (Global), SM-G925FQ (Turkey), SM-G925I (LATAM, Singapore, India, Australia), SM-G925K (Korea), SM-G925L, SM-G925S (Korea), SM-G925T (T-Mobile) It says that the i is latam, singapore and so on but you say that it's working well? How are your 4g speeds and stuff? Also what phone is the g920i that you're using and is there a particular reason you switched FROM the g925f global one? Because to me, it'd make more sense to have one that's global rather than one that's supposedly for latam/sing etc. Idk I'm very inexperienced with this stuff.
Hi ya no worries. The reason I switched from the "F" to the "I" was because others had mentioned there was a problem with the radios receiving LTE reception as good on networks such as AT&T when comparing side-by-side a provisioned model like the 925A. The "A" model is provisioned and tuned for the AT&T GSM network. The "F" model still got LTE but it would drop to 4G quicker than the "A" model while sitting right next to it. Being that the "I" model is almost the same as the "F", minus a couple of radio bands, some decided to shift to that one for GSM networks like AT&T. The LTE receptions were much better and I have to agree because I'm getting frequent LTE signals and great speeds on the GSM network T-Mobile. So keep in mind that you have to see which models radio bands are compatible for the network you intend to use it on. The issue with the "F" model is specific to those who were trying to use it on the US GSM network such as AT&T but probably not an issue for the rest of the worlds GSM network. Hope that helps.
s-one said: Hi ya no worries. The reason I switched from the "F" to the "I" was because others had mentioned there was a problem with the radios receiving LTE reception as good on networks such as AT&T when comparing side-by-side a provisioned model like the 925A. The "A" model is provisioned and tuned for the AT&T GSM network. The "F" model still got LTE but it would drop to 4G quicker than the "A" model while sitting right next to it. Being that the "I" model is almost the same as the "F", minus a couple of radio bands, some decided to shift to that one for GSM networks like AT&T. The LTE receptions were much better and I have to agree because I'm getting frequent LTE signals and great speeds on the GSM network T-Mobile. So keep in mind that you have to see which models radio bands are compatible for the network you intend to use it on. The issue with the "F" model is specific to those who were trying to use it on the US GSM network such as AT&T but probably not an issue for the rest of the worlds GSM network. Hope that helps. Click to expand... Click to collapse So what I'm getting is that although the f model is meant for international use and the i model is specifically for lat am, singapore and such, it still has better lte reception than the f model in the US?
Basically you are going to have to decide what bands your phone will be connected to in order to determine which model, the F or the I, would most benefit for you situation. The reception will be based on your vicinity or obstructions to the towers and any latency from those towers to your service providers network. So if your service provider uses bands 2 and 17 for their towers, then either F or I would work just the same. Here are the LTE bands for each: SM-G920F (Specifications link): B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800) SM-G920I (Specifications link): B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B26(800), B28(700) and B40(2300) So the "I" is missing bands 4 and 20 from the "F" and adds band 40 that the "F" does not have. Hope that clears it up.
s-one said: Basically you are going to have to decide what bands your phone will be connected to in order to determine which model, the F or the I, would most benefit for you situation. The reception will be based on your vicinity or obstructions to the towers and any latency from those towers to your service providers network. So if your service provider uses bands 2 and 17 for their towers, then either F or I would work just the same. Here are the LTE bands for each: SM-G920F (Specifications link): B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800) SM-G920I (Specifications link): B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B26(800), B28(700) and B40(2300) So the "I" is missing bands 4 and 20 from the "F" and adds band 40 that the "F" does not have. Hope that clears it up. Click to expand... Click to collapse Ahh I see. Sht I'm missing out on band 4 then ...ohwell as long as I have 4g. whatever. Thanks a lot man
ohsoasn said: As many of you may know, at&t verizon and the whole lot decided it'd be a great idea to delete apps like smart manager and preload their own bloatware. I see people on youtube from android authority and phone arena and such making first looks and tips&tricks videos and their phones seem like international unlocked versions. I'm wondering if anyone here knows where I could go about purchasing one? I tried amazon but it came in yesterday and it was clearly fake so I shipped it back. If amazon is my only option, or ebay, do any of you know like...legitimate sellers/merchants from those sites that I can buy from? I really don't want to get it and return it again over and over. It's a hassle. Thanks yall. Click to expand... Click to collapse Hi there, I just bought the "I" version on swappa, the 64 gb for $700. There's a guy from Puerto Rico with awesome 'deals'. I You should look for it.
SM G925 and SM G925f s-one said: Basically you are going to have to decide what bands your phone will be connected to in order to determine which model, the F or the I, would most benefit for you situation. The reception will be based on your vicinity or obstructions to the towers and any latency from those towers to your service providers network. So if your service provider uses bands 2 and 17 for their towers, then either F or I would work just the same. Here are the LTE bands for each: SM-G920F (Specifications link): B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800) SM-G920I (Specifications link): B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B26(800), B28(700) and B40(2300) So the "I" is missing bands 4 and 20 from the "F" and adds band 40 that the "F" does not have. Hope that clears it up. Click to expand... Click to collapse OFF - TOPIC pls i need your help friends Whats the difference between SM G925 and SM G925f? A friend bought SM G925 from Dubai for me to be used in Africa(Nigeria)? SM G925f is the model been sold here. Can the phone be used here without unlocking? Would it be region locked? Would it be differnt from SM G925f? Would i encounter problems using it? Would there support(here on xda developers) and other sites for it? Would i receive timely updates from Samsung directly? Pls i do really need you guys to help out with answers asap as he is coming home on Monday Thanks loads
I picked up a sm-g920s while i was vacationing in south Korea for $600 tax free cash. Brand new, sealed, and I've used tools to verify its authenticity. Unfortunately i did not do enough research on the bands when i bought it. Got back, got a t-mobile sim and can't even get 4G or LTE. So now only on their 3G network. Waiting on custom ROMs to come out to remove the bootloader SK Telecom has on the phone. I've rooted the device, but the bootloader prevents me from accessing their hidden menus to change the network bands. All our phones can work on all bands, but you just have to enable them and overide the service providers customization. Sent from my SM-G920S using XDA Free mobile app
pls i need ur help urgently stevemiddie said: www.clove.co.uk If you are outside of the European Union then they will ship it at the VAT free price. They also offer the free option of removing the region lock by making the 5 minute call first. Click to expand... Click to collapse pls i need your help friends Whats the difference between SM G925 and SM G925f? A friend bought SM G925 from Dubai for me to be used in Africa(Nigeria)? SM G925f is the model been sold here. Can the phone be used here without unlocking? Would it be region locked? Would it be differnt from SM G925f? Would i encounter problems using it? Would there support(here on xda developers) and other sites for it? Would i receive timely updates from Samsung directly? Pls i do really need you guys to help out with answers asap as he is coming home on Monday Thanks loads
LG or HTC Dual SIm for UK (Voda & EE)
Hi everyone Last year I bought the fabulous LG G3 Dual Sim from Hong Kong (H858HK), I was pissed when I got home as it does not work on 4G like it did in HK and it will not update over OTA :/ I have rooted it (Of course) and it's running 5.1 but updates and custom Roms are scarce or invisible lol So now I am looking to upgrade BUT I want a phone that works on 4G as my Voda business tariff includes 5Gb on 4G so my as well use it right ? I am looking through all the bumf and it seems the LG G4 H818P will not work in the UK on 4G, not sure about the H818P and the HTC ONE E9+ Can anyone please help shed some light on this for me? I need a dual sim phone that will work on Vodaphone and if poss EE too Specs for H818N are here, bit not sure which 4G Vodaphone uses as it says 800Mhz on their website :/ http://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phones/lg-H818N FDD: 2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 2600(B7) MHz TDD:2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2500(B41) MHz HTC says 4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 28(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500) SO am I right in thinking the LG is no good, but HTC ONE will be fine? Thanks for any help & advice
You will get lots of opinions here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179 I'll close this thread. :good: Darth Forum Moderator
[How To][Guide] Att Apn List (Not my werk)
Original Post Thread found HERE This is a guide for changing your apn for throttling issues or trying to get a better signal. Here's a list of the ATT APN list that I put together. I have tested these some work with everything DATA,LTE,MMS,VOICE, ETC. And some of them were request from other members here. So I just posted what was asked for into one location. If they work for you keep them if not, just delete and keep the ones you'll b using. NEVER DELETE THE STOCK APN JUST IN CASE! If I run across any others I sure to add them here. If anyone has any that I missed let me know and I'll add them to the list... #1.Go into setting, then more setting, mobile networks, then pick Access point Names. #2. In order to enter a new APN, hit the left menu key. Pick New APN, then enter your APN setting as listed below. After that hit Menu again then save! Then you can select that Apn, by hitting the dot next to the new apn Everyone's results will vary, pending on location... You will find all APN settings at link provided above...
Moto G4 is not compatible with all LTE bands. You can see that here http://willmyphonework.net/ I did check with AT&T and learned that the missing bands are being discontinued and only available in few areas. I have had no problems in my area. Now my plan includes throttling after the data I've signed up for, 10gb/family. If someone finds an APN that avoids that throttling, please list it.
king200 said: Moto G4 is not compatible with all LTE bands. You can see that here http://willmyphonework.net/ I did check with AT&T and learned that the missing bands are being discontinued and only available in few areas. I have had no problems in my area. Now my plan includes throttling after the data I've signed up for, 10gb/family. If someone finds an APN that avoids that throttling, please list it. Click to expand... Click to collapse I use straight talk 45 dollars unlimited t/t/d plan which uses att.
I'm on T-Mobile so I have no issues. If the APN Setting you need is at the link, great, if not I tried. Can't help everyone but I thought it might help some.... *Edit* I'm on the $95 Unlimited LTE plan
Every carrier that allows for BYOD has a link with their APN settings on the official website. Anyway 90% of the time the APN settings are downloaded via a SMS message, no need for manual config. My Moto G4 Plus worked automatically on MetroPCS, T-Mobile, CricketWireless (all USA) and Vodafone (Spain). Also, that link with "will it work" does not have the correct information for the US version of the G4 or G4 Plus. Both those phones have all the LTE bands needed in US (including AT&T and T-Mobile) and the important ones in EU. That is LTE bands 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 25(1900), 26(850), 41(2500).
General 5G APN Collection
Warning: Setting an APN will NOT make 5G work if your carrier does not support your hardware frequencies. These are carrier settings, not magic beans. T-Mobile (US) APN NameT-Mobile USAPNfast.t-mobile.comProxyNot setPortNot setUsernameNot setPasswordNot setServer*MMSChttp://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapencMMS ProxyNot setMMS PortNot setMCC310MNC260Authentication TypeNot setAPN Typedefault,supl,hipri,fota,mmsAPN ProtocolIPv6APN Roaming ProtocolIPv4BearerUnspecifiedMVNO TypeNoneMVNO ValueNot set AT&T (US) APN NameAPNNXTGENPHONE or enhancedphone or phoneProxyNot setPortNot setUsernameNot setPasswordNot setServerNot setMMSChttp://mmsc.mobile.att.netMMS Proxyproxy.mobile.att.netMMS Port80MCC310MNC410 or 280Authentication TypeNoneAPN Typedefault,mms,supl,hipriAPN ProtocolIPv4 or IPv4/IPv6APN Roaming ProtocolIPv4 or IPv4/IPv6BearerUnspecifiedMVNO TypeNone or GIDMVNO Value or 53FF If you have 5G service and your carrier is not listed, please make sure to include the name and country with the APN configuration details. If you would like to request any changes or additions, please include the name and updated info ONLY. Do NOT list the entire APN details. T-Mobile: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...vl-5g/network-apn-and-volte-t-mobile-revvl-5G AT&T: https://www.att.com/support/article/wireless/KM1062162/
Reserved for third-party carrier settings (Cricket, StraightTalk, etc)
No 5G on AT&T
TawkinTrash said: No 5G on AT&T Click to expand... Click to collapse I don't really know what to do with that, but thanks.
twistedumbrella said: I don't really know what to do with that, but thanks. Click to expand... Click to collapse Pardon me kind sir, but I am emphatically professing that there is no 5G for the ROG Phone 5 on the AT&T cellular network.
TawkinTrash said: Pardon me kind sir, but I am emphatically professing that there is no 5G for the ROG Phone 5 on the AT&T cellular network. Click to expand... Click to collapse Many thanks, gracious visitor, but I have not the means to rectify this for you.
Some have reported getting 5G on ATT with these difference in the VPN: APN Protocol: IPv4/IPv6 APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4/IPv6 MVNO Type: GID MVNO Value: 53FF I unfortunately am not one of those few. This is from users I have spoken to here and FB. YRMV