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VOIP in Canada

Anyone using 3G VOIP on the X10 with a high level of success?
Skype Beta, tried but doesn't work in this "region"
Fring = crap
Google Voice = not in Canada
I don't care if the service is free or pay-for but I would like some options.
Any info would be appreciated.

Try the new new Vonage app. Downside is that it only works between Facebook users with the app installed on their Android, Apple or Blackberry phones. Other than that it looks good and is totally free worldwide.

instigator008 said:
Try the new new Vonage app. Downside is that it only works between Facebook users with the app installed on their Android, Apple or Blackberry phones. Other than that it looks good and is totally free worldwide.
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Looks like it's worth a try, probably never see Google Voice in Canada eh?
Thanks for the heads up double 0h 8

instigator008 said:
Try the new new Vonage app. Downside is that it only works between Facebook users with the app installed on their Android, Apple or Blackberry phones. Other than that it looks good and is totally free worldwide.
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Tried it.. just can't get it to work. After I enter my facebook login and passwd, it says Can't connect to facebook, try again later and closes itself.
Guess I have to stick to crappy fring

Google voice works in Canada. U need an Alberta number to forward to. The only downside is having to use the web browser to make outgoing calls.
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freephoneline.ca
But you have to pay about 50$ for the sip settings (user/pass)
Free local calls and between some cities.
Unfortunately without sip settings, you can't use sipdroid.

3cx phone seems to work best for me since it supports g711. Sipdroid doesnt seem to have that codec. Havent found any that support g729 yet. 3cx also allows multiple sip accounts. Used it with voipcheap and gizmo5. Seems to work best for me.
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pngface said:
Tried it.. just can't get it to work. After I enter my facebook login and passwd, it says Can't connect to facebook, try again later and closes itself.
Guess I have to stick to crappy fring
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Installed it last night but haven't tried it out yet.

I'll play with Vonage today and maybe look into a sip account.
Thanks to all.

jasonvw said:
3cx phone seems to work best for me since it supports g711. Sipdroid doesnt seem to have that codec. Havent found any that support g729 yet. 3cx also allows multiple sip accounts. Used it with voipcheap and gizmo5. Seems to work best for me.
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Do you know any sip provider with prepaid for international which doesn't expire and preferably free local or north america calls?

You can also try Nimbuzz. They just released a new version the other day, that is supposed to reinstate Skype VoIP service. Haven't tried it myself yet, though.

gavriel18 said:
Google voice works in Canada. U need an Alberta number to forward to. The only downside is having to use the web browser to make outgoing calls.
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How did you sign up with google voice. When I try to sign up it says it is not available in canada, and I am in alberta ?

try Tubaloo

Thanks for the nimbuzz update.
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trojjanhorse said:
try Tubaloo
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Just added Tubaloo to my to test list.
Thanks.

I just created a Sipgate account (VPN on the home computer combined with a friend with a US cell phone got me an invitation code).
I've tried to set it up with Sipdroid and although it connects (green light on top) it fails to sustain a phone call. It makes the call and then drops it. I've tried with and without using the STUN server and have also tried various ports.
The Sipgate account is working. I called my Sipgate number and left myself a voicemail.
Is Rogers simply blocking my 3G VOIP trials?

[Q] Current way to do free calls over data?

Hi,
I've seen many articles describe how back in the day you could make a Gizmo5 account and tie it to your google voice account and thereby make free calls using google voice. I've looked around for a bit for a solution that doesn't require Gizmo5 but haven't found anything as of now. I've seen some mentions of using at least in part SIPgate and SIPdroid but, from what I understand, if you can get that to work it only solves the issue of incoming calls. Does anyone have a current and complete method (preferably from start to finish) to set up something like this?

You can accomplish this by using Google Voice, IPKall, PBXes.org (or a similar service) and an app like GVCallback plus whichever SIP app you'd like to use (I like CSIP). There are tutorials out there, Google is your friend. A little too involved for me to go into detail at the moment but it's possible and it does work once setup properly. Basically: setup an account with PBXes.org, get telco # from IPKall (that forwards to your PBXes.org account). Next you setup Google Voice to forward to your IPKall #. At this point you'll be able to receive calls to your GV # but not dial out. To call out, setup GVCallback. Now when you dial-out, Google Voice will ring your phone first, you answer - then GV rings the # you dialed and connects the call - for free.
Just keep in mind, if you use too much bandwidth, PBXes.org will cut you off unless you upgrade to a premium account. Hope that helps.

Dbagjones said:
Just keep in mind, if you use too much bandwidth, PBXes.org will cut you off unless you upgrade to a premium account. Hope that helps.
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there are free sip providers without that limitation... a quick google search should turn up a ton of them.

If you're inside US, Google Voice will be the best answer. Or you can also use Skype or Fring with very low rate.

spiderx_mm said:
If you're inside US, Google Voice will be the best answer. Or you can also use Skype or Fring with very low rate.
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even if you're outside the US, you can get a free number from ipkall to use with google voice and get free calling to the US and canada and low rates (about the same as skype or fring) to anywhere else.

[Q] best free serviced voip app?

hey guys, I'm looking for a setup that can give me unlimited voip calls and minutes as I will be out of the country next month. I have looked around and haven't found one that offered more than 15 minutes... I looked at mo-co, vopium, and truphone. is there a better setup? thanks!
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sipgate with sipsorcery and google voice and 3cx or the old sipagent
edit: I just found out that sipsorcery is closed for new accounts?

kakashi_s1 said:
hey guys, I'm looking for a setup that can give me unlimited voip calls and minutes as I will be out of the country next month. I have looked around and haven't found one that offered more than 15 minutes... I looked at mo-co, vopium, and truphone. is there a better setup? thanks!
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Just use GVoice and Sipgate.com. Sipgate has free incoming calls so use the callback feature to make all calls incoming to you sipgate number and use a sip client on your phone.

google has that gizmo5 account too but they're not offering any new sign ups. I'll try using sipgate.com thanks!

And if you're looking for a good SIP client for your phone I recommend SIPDroid. An excellent app. I'm in Hong Kong right now and can use SIPDroid+Google Voice to make/receive free calls to USA numbers when I'm on a wifi/data connection.
Here's a link describing how. Very easy:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/euq38/making_free_calls_with_google_voice_without_using/

Free Calling

http://mindmirror007.blogspot.com/2010/12/guide-how-to-set-up-internet-calling.html?m=1
The above is a manual for free voice calls over data connection. Only problem works only for US based users since you need a Google voice account available only to US based users.
Wonder if Google voice account use or only creation is limited to US? I expect you should be able to ise it worldwide if you can get around the initial geographic creation limitations. Any ideas on this?
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I get free voice using Google Voice and Groove IP. I can make calls out, but yet haven't figured a way to receive them.

Oditius said:
I get free voice using Google Voice and Groove IP. I can make calls out, but yet haven't figured a way to receive them.
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I use groove IP as well and it works great. In order to receive calls you need to log onto your google voice account and forward the number to google chat. After that you will be able to make and receive calls.
Latest Overcome on T-Mobile

So any suggestions on how to get a google voice account considering I am not in the US???
As a far shot I tried using market enabler to fake T-Mobile and Verizon as providers but as expected it didnt work.

[Q] VOIP Alternative to GrooveIP due to loss of XMPP

Recently bought N5 (play store), also bought activation kit from T-Mobile for the $30/month unlimited data prepaid plan. Works great. Was my intention to use GrooveIP to make VOIP calls using the data only and never touch the 100 mins portion of the plan. Then I hear about Google dropping the XMPP support in Google Voice. While I understand that this isn't supposed to happen until May of 2014, my question is this. Are there any alternatives that will allow me to make Data only VOIP calls on my N5?
If this is posted in the wrong section I apologize.
Thanks In Advance.
D$

Im not going to even begin to worry for about 4 months. Gotta give Google some time to possibly introduce a Hangouts voice calling alternative. If they don't, then I guess I am going to have to switch to Straight Talk. It only ends up being 6 dollars more a month than the Tmobile plan when you buy 6 month cards off Amazon and as an added bonus you dont have to worry about minutes anymore and you get much better coverage. Only major negative is your data is cut in half.

Get a s4 with wifi calling.

The stock rom allows you to make "Internet" (SIP) calls or you could install an app like CSipSimple. Either way, just find a SIP provider you like.

gtj0 said:
The stock rom allows you to make "Internet" (SIP) calls or you could install an app like CSipSimple. Either way, just find a SIP provider you like.
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Thank you. I didn't know you could do that. Do you have any suggestions on where I might go to shop SIP providers? Thank you.

TheDMoney said:
Thank you. I didn't know you could do that. Do you have any suggestions on where I might go to shop SIP providers? Thank you.
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There are tons of them out there. Just search for "sip provider" or "voip provider". The right one for you will depend a lot on what country you're in, what your calling patterns are, how many minutes you expect to use, etc.
In the US, callentric, broadvoice, voip.ms, vitelity are just a few.

I think OP will have to wait for google to change their api. I am kinda worried too using OBI100 at my office.

TheDMoney said:
Thank you. I didn't know you could do that. Do you have any suggestions on where I might go to shop SIP providers? Thank you.
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Here is a list of sip termination providers:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Sip+Trunking+Providers
One popular way to make free sip calls is to use a free pbx that can relay outogoing calls via a Google Voice account:
https://www1.pbxes.com/

Thank you, the information is awesome. I knew I was in the right place, even if not in the right forum to begin with. :highfive:

zgx said:
Here is a list of sip termination providers:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Sip+Trunking+Providers
One popular way to make free sip calls is to use a free pbx that can relay outogoing calls via a Google Voice account:
https://www1.pbxes.com/
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Will this still be possible after XMPP is terminated?

otacon507 said:
Will this still be possible after XMPP is terminated?
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Gateways such as pbxes and Sipsorcery are not using XMPP, so they should work after XMPP is shut off.

zgx said:
Gateways such as pbxes and Sipsorcery are not using XMPP, so they should work after XMPP is shut off.
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To quote a guy from Reddit:
"If you are using OBI, GrooveIP, csipsimple via PBXes, or your own * box etc., they will cease to function as they use Asterisk PBX modules on the server end to translate XMPP (Jabber) in to SIP protocols."
Therefore, according to him, PBX is no longer possible?

otacon507 said:
To quote a guy from Reddit:
"If you are using OBI, GrooveIP, csipsimple via PBXes, or your own * box etc., they will cease to function as they use Asterisk PBX modules on the server end to translate XMPP (Jabber) in to SIP protocols."
Therefore, according to him, PBX is no longer possible?
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My misake. You're correct, PBXes.org will no longer work because, yes, they use XMPP.
(see: http://www1.pbxes.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=1289421168)
Sipsourcery does not use XMPP, but rather HTTP, so they should continue to work.

caribouxda said:
Get a s4 with wifi calling.
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You do know that wi-fi calling still uses minutes.. right?

I have used the following process even before I discovered GrooveIP was going to stop working on May 15 because of Google dropping support for XMPP.
Setup a free SIP account on (say) www.callcentric.com and select a DID.
Use the Internet Phone setting on the N5 to create a SIP account to your Callcentric Number.
Go to Google Voice on a desktop and route your GV number to that DID. You will have to verify the number by installing a SIP client either on the desktop or set it up on your N5.
Download and install Google Voice Callback (available free at the Amazon app store).
Then when you want to make a call over data (WiFi or 3G) call as usual, let GV Callback intercept the call and do a callback. It should callback your Google Voice number which will be forwarded to your Callcentric number and ring on your cell. When you answer Google Voice will call and connect you to the original number.
Similarly if people call your GV number it should ring your cell over the SIP connection to Callcentric.
No airtime minutes should be consumed in this process.

lchiu7 said:
I have used the following process even before I discovered GrooveIP was going to stop working on May 15 because of Google dropping support for XMPP.
Setup a free SIP account on (say) www.callcentric.com and select a DID.
Use the Internet Phone setting on the N5 to create a SIP account to your Callcentric Number.
Go to Google Voice on a desktop and route your GV number to that DID. You will have to verify the number by installing a SIP client either on the desktop or set it up on your N5.
Download and install Google Voice Callback (available free at the Amazon app store).
Then when you want to make a call over data (WiFi or 3G) call as usual, let GV Callback intercept the call and do a callback. It should callback your Google Voice number which will be forwarded to your Callcentric number and ring on your cell. When you answer Google Voice will call and connect you to the original number.
Similarly if people call your GV number it should ring your cell over the SIP connection to Callcentric.
No airtime minutes should be consumed in this process.
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Why are you stressing that we own a Nexus 5? I do not think that this is supported in regular JB systems? Would you mind writing a small tutorial and iron out the fine details you are outlining here?
Thanks, very resourceful post!

otacon507 said:
Why are you stressing that we own a Nexus 5? I do not think that this is supported in regular JB systems? Would you mind writing a small tutorial and iron out the fine details you are outlining here?
Thanks, very resourceful post!
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First of all this is a N5 forum which is why I assume that users will be using the N5. In fact this process works for the GN and Nexus S (and Nexus 4) but I can't vouch for non GED devices since I don't have any.
To expand a little (and as they say in maths texts, the rest is left an an exercise for the reader).
I have used the following process even before I discovered GrooveIP was going to stop working on May 15 because of Google dropping support for XMPP.
Setup a free SIP account on (say) www.callcentric.com and select a DID.. That means go www.callcentric.com and register an account. Then choose their free DID plan and select a number in one of the New York area codes they provide. I think 845 is one of them; It really doesn't matter what number you choose - just remember it.
Use the Internet Phone setting on the N5 to create a SIP account to your Callcentric Number. This is Phone/Settings/Call Settings/Accounts.
Setup a SIP account using the username 1777nnnnnnn which is assigned to your new account, password as you provided and server callcentri.com
Go to Google Voice on a desktop and route your GV number to that DID. You will have to verify the number by installing a SIP client either on the desktop or set it up on your N5.
Confirm that you can receive calls on this number in that your account [email protected] is receiving calls. Confirm that by calling you (e.g.) 845 number and make sure it rings on your phone. This will be a SIP call and not use any data.
Go to Google Voice and set the (854) number as a number for GV to forward calls. GV will then ask you to confirm that number by calling it and asking you to enter a 2 digit number into the called phone. You will need to make sure you can receive call on your cell on that number.
If you are successful, then your new number (callcentric) will not ring on your cell.
Download and install Google Voice Callback (available free at the Amazon app store). This app is not available at the Play Store since apparently it violates some rule Google has about apps but Amazon host it fine, The author is Xinlu,
What Google Voice Callback does is, it will intercept a regular call on your cellphone and ask if you want to use GV Callback. You do. The call will then be hung up and Google will now call your back on your (845) number (over the Internet) and when you pick up, it will present you will the ringing tone to the originally called number. When you connect you are now making an Internet call rather than using your TMO minutes,
Similarly if people call your GV number it should ring your cell over the SIP connection to Callcentric because you have forwarded all your calls to GV to your SIP phne.
No airtime minutes should be consumed in this process.

FYI if you are already a magicJack user, that is also a decent alternative. If you already use magicjack for your home line, you can download the app and make free calls to North America via wifi/data etc. You can get a new free number and route calls to your google voice number to your magicjack number. Unfortunately I'm not sure you can integrate your outgoing magicjack calls via google voice.
The quality of voip calls via magicjack is pretty decent over wifi and LTE from my experience. However if you're stuck in an area with 3G data, your call quality may vary. I have been using the app to make free calls on Nexus 7 tablet via Tmo data plan and it works well...

Do this https://simonics.com/gvgw/
Google voice calls right thru Android native sip. Works great..
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david279 said:
Do this https://simonics.com/gvgw/
Google voice calls right thru Android native sip. Works great..
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I suspect that's going to break also with the loss of XMPP support. To quote their site
The Google Voice Gateway service will be discontinued on May 15, 2014, due to policy and technology changes being implemented by Google. Please see this blog posting for more details and the SIP Providers forum to discuss SIP provider alternatives. Thank you for your support in helping to make this service excellent since November 2011.
What I plan to do is use Google Voice callback and a free SIP provider like Callcentric. It's a bit more fiddly but I think it does not rely on XMPP support and you can still make free calls using data.