[Q] Replace Desire's Sense with Stock Android - General Topics

Hi,
I just bought an HTC Desire and I dislike HTC Sense, before experimenting with Cyanogen or such (which I have on my G1), I'd like to test regular Stock Android like the Nexus One has.
Are there any simple ways to change the full Desire's interface to Stock Android (not only by replacing Sense by another home launcher)?
Any ROMs to install a Nexus-like OS?
And, when such a ROM installed, will updates be handled normally?
Or, another possibility, to install all the regular Google Apps on it, like Messaging, Contacts, Calendar,... and let these replace HTC's?
Many thanks!
Steven

You'd be better asking in the Desire Q&A forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=689

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Sense like calender widget

I just moved from the HTC Eris(Hero) to a Motorola Droid 2 and so far I am liking it, but i am missing Sense calendar widget. Is there anything in market or something an XDA dev created that is similar to it? Or is there some how a way to get it working on the D2 with out Sense, which I hear because of the locked boot-loader is not possible at the moment. Thank you.
Launcher Pro Plus has a built in calendar widget that looks very good and similiar to the sense calendar.
No, it can't be ported because Sense is closed source and widgets rely too heavily on the sense framework. I use pure calendar grid for this function.
I prefer not to use another launcher as I am enjoying stock Android right now(a difference change from sense which I really like). I will take a look at pure widget.
BTW they were able to get most of sense on the original Droid/milestone because the boot loader was not locked. Or on the G1, G2, and other HTC device that didn't natively come with sense. As long as you have access to the framework and bootloader I think you can use a sense based rom.
tbaker077 said:
I prefer not to use another launcher as I am enjoying stock Android right now(a difference change from sense which I really like). I will take a look at pure widget.
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For what it's worth LauncherPro is based on the stock launcher, and is almost the same in terms of looks.. just added smoothness and functionality like said widgets, resizing, built-in notification dock, etc.. you could even put the Froyo dock background on it and it would look just like the stock Android. Just saying in case you think it will look all themed-out..
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BTW they were able to get most of sense on the original Droid/milestone because the boot loader was not locked. Or on the G1, G2, and other HTC device that didn't natively come with sense. As long as you have access to the framework and bootloader I think you can use a sense based rom.
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Yes but you are not able to use the widgets without using the sense launcher... it's as easy as that
I will demo both and see what I like better. I just assumed that pro meant paid version.
Edit: I guess if I want the calender widget I have to go with the paid plus version. I wish I could demo the Plus before I make a decision.
I have tried a few calendar Widgets including the one from launcher pro and Calendar Pad, but found that Jorte is the best one for me and my wife. Many options from sizes to colors. Extremely customizeable.
Look up Jorte in the marketplace, plus it's free
I use jorte. I think youll like it, http://androinica.com/2010/04/16/jorte-is-a-promising-android-calendar-replacement-app-reviews/
That doesn't look like a bad option either. Hmmmm.

[Q] Sense Rom with Bluetooth Stack?

Ive Been looking for a Sense based ROM for my Inspire 4G that includes a BT Stack that supports HID devices, Ive done my Research and have only found a couple things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128343
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767150
Now I know that both those have the "Just install CM7 it does everything" answer somewhere in the thread, and honestly, I did just that, I rooted my phone and installed CM7. and the Wiimote and Sixaxis controlers work great with my GBA and Sega Genesis Emulators.
But I don't like a lot of the CM7 interface Choices, such as the Phone that comes with it, and I prefer the HTC Message widget over anything I can find in the market.
On top of that It seems that the process has also Done away with my HSUPA
My Question: Is there any Sense Roms out that have Added the BT Stack that CM7 Uses.
And if not, since their code is on Github, how hard would it be to Modify a sense based rom to add the BT implementation?
Jay_PC said:
Ive Been looking for a Sense based ROM for my Inspire 4G that includes a BT Stack that supports HID devices, Ive done my Research and have only found a couple things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128343
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767150
Now I know that both those have the "Just install CM7 it does everything" answer somewhere in the thread, and honestly, I did just that, I rooted my phone and installed CM7. and the Wiimote and Sixaxis controlers work great with my GBA and Sega Genesis Emulators.
But I don't like a lot of the CM7 interface Choices, such as the Phone that comes with it, and I prefer the HTC Message widget over anything I can find in the market.
On top of that It seems that the process has also Done away with my HSUPA
My Question: Is there any Sense Roms out that have Added the BT Stack that CM7 Uses.
And if not, since their code is on Github, how hard would it be to Modify a sense based rom to add the BT implementation?
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No There isnt as alot of the sense parts are coded just for the HTC drivers. Would need to be able to change the base sense coding for the new drivers.
Thanks a Bunch, Guess its back to looking for a Rom,
Second Question: Im looking at Android Revolution and NoSense++
If this removes the Sense Launcher, It seemingly keeps all the things I like:
HTC Dialer
HTC Lockscreen
HTC Contacts app
Facebook for htc sense(I could Deal without this but a +)
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and removes the things I can live without:
Sense launcher
Sense Skins
All HTC Widgets
HTC Direct
HTC Hub
HTC Peep
HTC Recommends
HTC Wallpapers
My HTC
Ereader and some Ebooks.
Flickr
News and Weather
RSS Reader
Stock
Weather app
Voice Dialer
SMS/MMS ap
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Would this be the begining of a fix? Possibly to Install BT drivers after all this as a 3rd step? (from a non technical explination) Would it be possible to create a Script to then add the CM7 BT implementation, since sense is removed(though I'm not sure what else would get in the way...)
Only a theory
Jay_PC said:
Thanks a Bunch, Guess its back to looking for a Rom,
Second Question: Im looking at Android Revolution and NoSense++
If this removes the Sense Launcher, It seemingly keeps all the things I like:
and removes the things I can live without:
Would this be the begining of a fix? Possibly to Install BT drivers after all this as a 3rd step? (from a non technical explination) Would it be possible to create a Script to then add the CM7 BT implementation, since sense is removed(though I'm not sure what else would get in the way...)
Only a theory
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Even with those removed the rom still relies on the com.HTC.resources.apk and the sense jar files. Those are the ones where the coding would need yo be changed. Unless HTC updates the drivers to do this then it will not happen.

[Q] Help with HTC Notes and Tasks ICS apps

dudes and dudettes,
I tried out one of the Sense ICS ROMS (ARHD 5.0.2) and while aspects of it were great, at the moment (due to kernel development) it's a lot slower than the Gingerbread ROMs available.
However, I really loved the HTC ICS "Notes" and "Tasks" apps.
My questions,
1. Is it possible to run these apps on Gingerbread? Obviously the widgets couldn't really be integrated with a current ROM without recooking the whole thing, but just being able to use the apps would be great. Could someone provide the APKs if it is possible?
2. If that won't work, could somebody strip the icons from the apks for me? I love them and I'd like to use them for my note and to do apps.
Thanks for reading,
zuka
They work on Sense Gingerbread ROMs, yes.
I've installed both on a Gingerbread Sense 3.0 ROM and they both force close. Am I doing something wrong?
I should have clarified, Sense 3.5 ROMs have them.

HTC native browser vs vanilla ICS browser questions

Hi All,
I am currently an iPhone user, but this phone may make me change league. Just a few questions regarding this particular device running HTC Sense 4.
One of the reason I considering change league is because ICS finally support full OpenGL ES rendering in the browser and all over the UI.
As far as I know, HTC devices use their own branded theme HTC Sense, which bundled with its own browser rather than the vanilla ICS browser. I noticed that the vanilla ICS browser has the option to enable full OpenGL ES render path. This make the browser work a lot faster and better surfing exp. I wonder if HTC's native browser has the same setting(s). Or is it already coded to enable OpenGL ES rendering?
If not, can I change the default browser to something, say the vanilla ICS chrome browser? or Dolphin? (not sure if Dolphin support OpenGL ES rendering though.)
Thanks.
It's still the same Ice Cream Sandwich browser just with HTC Sense themed over it, but the code inside the browser should be a bit different for the Tegra 3.
As long as you enable 'Full 2D GPU Rendering' or something in the developer setting, other browser should have it.
Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??
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Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??
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As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps
mtgray said:
As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps
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Thanks mate,
Although I may not like the Sense theme applied to the UI and browser, I found that the HTC's touch on the camera app is quite well received. I wonder if there is any possible ways to keep the camera app HTC way and just stop the Sense theme from working over the UI and Browser?
Cheers.
You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.
virtq said:
You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.
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That's brilliant, thank you.
In terms of rooting the device and unlocking the bootloader, how hard will that be? As I know Sony's Xperia range even offer official unlock bootloader support, how good is this for the HTC's? Sorry for the noob questions.
You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.
Sarsippius said:
You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.
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Thanks mate,
but using the launcher method will mean that I only get rid of the UI Sense home, but still need to stick with other HTC Sense features like HTC style multitasking, etc. where I prefer the original ICS.
What a shame! This phone is really a beauty in built and form factor is perfect for me. But many little flaws put me off a bit and a second thought is really in my mind...
e.g. The camera's output is too soft, the HTC sense in a burden for ICS, etc.

Can I install stock HTC One X apps on Cyanogen rom?

I recently entered the custom Rom arena and am loving my new found freedom.
I've currently got CyanogenMod 10.1 installed and everything is going pretty well.
Excuse my simple question if it's been answered here already (I did search hard first), but can anyone tell me:
Can I load some stock HOX apps like Mail, Car Mode and the stock touchscreen into custom roms?
I especially doubt the last one is an option but it is way ahead of the Cyanogen lockscreen in my opinion. Well it is in my case where my company policy forces the password lock via Exchange meaning in Cyanogen I can't choose an app from the lockscreen to open as the numpad replaces the app icons along the bottom. On stock HTC they are there and can be dragged into the "ring" to open them (admittedly the numpad appears before app opens but it's still faster to jump into an app than Cyanogen method).
Apart from that I really like the HTC mail app. It runs rings around K9 and the Cyanogen mail app so I would love to know if I can install some of the HTC stock apps and have the best of both worlds.
Thanks.
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