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I want to buy this device but it is overpriced here in the uk and t mobile in the usa have it a affordable price. I checked the bands and most uk phones have: 900, 1900 and 2100 for 3g
This one has : 1700 and 2100 for 3g
This concerns me a lot. Can I flash a radio from the original optimistic 2x or something to make it work in the uk? Do you think it will work on 3g out of the box? Some help please.
As you've noted T-Mobile uses non standard frequencies in the states. So, out of the box it's incompatible. As far as flashing an Optimus 2x radio, that appears to be a very bad idea due to file system differences.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the answer is no.
According to this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1305&MNC=CING
uk carriers use 2100 primarily and according to gsmarena the bands this phone supports are:
1700 and 2100 for 3g
Wouldn't it still work out of the box even if it supports 2100 band?
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Also according to this:
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps...ma/gb/17016/comb/&layer_id=951&lstCountry=275
Most uk networks use 2100 band as suggested by at&t . The 1700 band is used by t mo for 4g network according to engadget. Any change of opinion now?
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"Band I" is 2100 MHz, which is supported by the G2x and is used all over Europe and Asia.
and according to this http://www.phonearena.com/phones/T-Mobile-G2x_id5272
the G2X supports 2100 UMTS (3G) or am I missing something?
The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700). The G2x does not support AT&T’s 3G bands.
G2X spec sheet
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/T-Mobile_G2x_with_Google_FactSheet_FINAL.pdf
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
rashad1 said:
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Thanks for confirming
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
bdkinney said:
Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
jdaclutch said:
Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Yeah...now that's not quite right. Here's the deal:
Most of the world uses 2100 MHz 3G bidirectionally (for both sending and receiving data). This includes England, China, and Hong Kong.
In the U.S. AT&T uses Both 850 & 1900 MHz (depending on the coverage area) bidirectionally. Not compatible with "world standards". The reason you could use you iphone in China is because it has tri-band 3G. Not all AT&T phones support the 2100 MHz band.
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for uploads and 2100 MHz for downloading. However, all their current phones have the ability to use the 2100 MHz band bidirectionally when operating overseas.
So to sum it up T-Mobile phones will do 3G overseas, some AT&T Phones will work overseas, but most phones from overseas won't do 3G here.
I hope that makes things a bit more clear; and I apologize again for confusing T-mobile with AT&T in my earlier post.
Hello!
I found that our phone support only HSDPA at 1700/2100 MHz. Is it possible to use HSDPA at 900 MHz after some software modification or not?
I have a bad feel that ability to use HSDPA 900 MHz is hardware depending?
i could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure the radio frequency is hardware based, rather than software controlled
Same to me... in my country (Panama) 3G frequency are 900/1900
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Although I don't think it will enable 900 Mhz support, you can always attempt a baseband update that more closely resembles your needs.
I got a lot steadier 3G coverage with the European baseband. (in sweden)
same to me, my network operator have HSDPA and 3g on 850/1900 Mhz.
it's any solutions for this?
better 3G coverage
Shadowdancer123 said:
Although I don't think it will enable 900 Mhz support, you can always attempt a baseband update that more closely resembles your needs.
I got a lot steadier 3G coverage with the European baseband. (in sweden)
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Whoa..are you saying that by using a comparable baseband, but not necessarily my own carrier stock supplied one, I could potentially improve my 3G reception??
Anyone on Wind Canada tried this?
well there it is. The galaxy note, lte, tab 8.9, and 10.1 will be getting ics "soon"
http://www.facebook.com/notes/samsu...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148
Let's all run around the streets naked and bang pots and pans like on New Years
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Let's all run around the streets naked and bang pots and pans like on New Years
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count me in
BaconStep said:
count me in
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I already finished my run through the neighborhood.
Getting closer to ICS build roms!! Can't wait! I've been holding off until ICS came out because I didn't want to have to do 2 wipes.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that referring to Europe? Obviously we'll start getting leaks of that soon after, but it won't officially show up here in the US on AT&T for a long time to come...
(and I will admit that ICS is showing up in my subconscious because I dreamt that I was downloading it recently...)
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jslanger said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that referring to Europe? Obviously we'll start getting leaks of that soon after, but it won't officially show up here in the US on AT&T for a long time to come...
(and I will admit that ICS is showing up in my subconscious because I dreamt that I was downloading it recently...)
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That could be right seeing as how this wasnt posted in the US facebook page...
who knows. We may even have a working rom before we get an official update
if it comes to the international gs2 LTE then we can probably port some stuff over and have more kernal source since it is similar to the skyrocket, at least more similar than the normal gs2 cuz it has a qualcomm s3 processor. it will definately help the ics roms i think
How much different are we from the international version? Same hardware minus the radio? Or are we running different processors entirely?
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How much different are we from the international version? Same hardware minus the radio? Or are we running different processors entirely?
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Different processor and screen... and i9100 doesn't have LTE if I remember correctly
And they come in 16 or 32gb
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the galaxy s ii lte is EXACTLY the same as the skyrocket. Just unbranded. Can't wait!
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Shootoo said:
Different processor and screen... and i9100 doesn't have LTE if I remember correctly
And they come in 16 or 32gb
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I meant the skyrocket international version, or galaxy s2 LTE they call it. I didn't mean the i9100.
iandr0idos said:
the galaxy s ii lte is EXACTLY the same as the skyrocket. Just unbranded. Can't wait!
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thank God!
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iandr0idos said:
the galaxy s ii lte is EXACTLY the same as the skyrocket. Just unbranded. Can't wait!
International SGS2 LTE = Qualcomm APQ8060 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Skyrocket = Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Close, but not exact.
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rjohnstone said:
iandr0idos said:
the galaxy s ii lte is EXACTLY the same as the skyrocket. Just unbranded. Can't wait!
International SGS2 LTE = Qualcomm APQ8060 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Skyrocket = Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Close, but not exact.
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Just like how Skyrocket mentions 3g 850/1900/2100 when in reality it can also do 1700 That portion of the specs is controlled by software, not hardware.
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rjohnstone said:
iandr0idos said:
the galaxy s ii lte is EXACTLY the same as the skyrocket. Just unbranded. Can't wait!
International SGS2 LTE = Qualcomm APQ8060 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Skyrocket = Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Close, but not exact.
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Aren't they both considered Snapdragon S3 processors? Would that be close enough? Or am I talkin' out of my @$$?
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jedah said:
rjohnstone said:
Aren't they both considered Snapdragon S3 processors? Would that be close enough? Or am I talkin' out of my @$$?
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The APQ8060 and MSM8260 are exactly the same other then the LTE capabilities of the latter.
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rjohnstone said:
iandr0idos said:
the galaxy s ii lte is EXACTLY the same as the skyrocket. Just unbranded. Can't wait!
International SGS2 LTE = Qualcomm APQ8060 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Skyrocket = Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon SOC
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Close, but not exact.
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They both have the 8x60 series SOC, they are the same.
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Can't wait for ICS.
Damn it. This might ruin my "I got ice cream sandwich on my skyrocket!" post with pictures I had planned for April Fools Day.
Lucidmike said:
Damn it. This might ruin my "I got ice cream sandwich on my skyrocket!" post with pictures I had planned for April Fools Day.
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Lol I'll be shocked if we have it by then.
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I've seen that a few samsungs and european HTCs can do this through service mode, but is there any way to force the Sensation 4G to 850mhz? according to HTC, the modem in the phone does support AT&T frequencies and the carrier with the best connection only supports 850mhz in my country, and i reeeally don't want to buy a new phone.
i know it's a longshot, but it's worth trying.
Be careful, you don't want to ruin your device. Watch for overheating. Watch for force closes. Any signs And go back to normal. Be very cautious overclocking that much
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Its not overclocking, its trying to get one of the cellphone frequencies.
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realsis said:
Be careful, you don't want to ruin your device. Watch for overheating. Watch for force closes. Any signs And go back to normal. Be very cautious overclocking that much
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i'm not talking about overclocking, it's the data modem, to put it simply, i need to be on AT&T frequencies but my phone is T-Mobile, and i've seen people change it according to their region. is it possible on the Sensation?
Well for starters the only way you would be able to operate on that frequency one your device has to be carrier free meaning unlocked from all gsm carrier's and this will allow your device to operate on that frequency meaning all you would have to do is swap sim cards if your device is carrier free and then you be able to put in AT&T sim card and reboot however you can't do this unless you are carrier free
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The Sensation supports 850mhz for gsm. It does not support 850mhz or 1900mhz hspa (at least the us version does not support 1900 hspa, having aws instead).
So if you are using an att sim and want 850mhz, you would have to switch it to gsm only (although it'd only work with gsm anyway since att uses 850/1900 for hspa iirc, or maybe just 1900?).
Even then, it'd choose between 850 and 1900 depending on signal / area, etc.
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The Sensation supports 850mhz for gsm. It does not support 850mhz or 1900mhz hspa (at least the us version does not support 1900 hspa, having aws instead).
So if you are using an att sim and want 850mhz, you would have to switch it to gsm only (although it'd only work with gsm anyway since att uses 850/1900 for hspa iirc, or maybe just 1900?).
Even then, it'd choose between 850 and 1900 depending on signal / area, etc.
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meaning my sensation is confined to EDGE speeds on said networks??
Compatible networks GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850 900 1800 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA
850 1900 2100 or 900 1700 2100 MHz
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps
HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
tmo version supports 900/1700/2100.
looks like the other version not available in america supports 850/1900/2100 for umts.
not sure if there's any difference in hardware or if it's defined in software (not a part that's included in ruu's).
ziddey said:
Compatible networks GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850 900 1800 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA
850 1900 2100 or 900 1700 2100 MHz
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps
HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
tmo version supports 900/1700/2100.
looks like the other version not available in america supports 850/1900/2100 for umts.
not sure if there's any difference in hardware or if it's defined in software (not a part that's included in ruu's).
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Its a difference in hardware. The Canadian Bell version supports 850/1900 (AT&T Frequencies) You can use the T Mobile version but you will be limited to edge/2G only.
Hello All! first of all its extremely basic question.
I have UK version of HTC One S S4, but i live in Indiana, US. I use Tmobile but dont get 4G or 3G..just Edge!
so i was wondering if i flashed tmobile radio or tmobile-RUU will I start getting a better connection or also maybe 3G..?
OK sorry but my Phone is not UK..it is HTC Europe version.
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OK sorry but my Phone is not UK..it is HTC Europe version.
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Your in a bit of a bind then since you have the international version! Your phone might not have the right frequency support to get T-mobile 3g/4g until they complete their move of 3g to the 1900 band.
This is an excerpt from Anandtech Review
The International and T-Mobile One S differ in what UMTS bands are supported, as the International One S targets both Asia and Europe, while the T-Mobile version goes for the Americas. I’ve made a table with the pertinent information.
HTC One S - Network Support
GSM/EDGE Support 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
WCDMA Support
One S - International 850 / 900 / 2100 MHz
WCDMA Support
One S - T-Mobile 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
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You really need that 1700/1900 band for AWS 3g. However, t-mobile is currently moving 3g to the 1900 spectrum which should enable you to get 3g when it's done in your area.
Here is a map of current reported 1900 3g coverage. http://www.airportal.de/
Sorry to give you the bad news.