Hello All! first of all its extremely basic question.
I have UK version of HTC One S S4, but i live in Indiana, US. I use Tmobile but dont get 4G or 3G..just Edge!
so i was wondering if i flashed tmobile radio or tmobile-RUU will I start getting a better connection or also maybe 3G..?
OK sorry but my Phone is not UK..it is HTC Europe version.
Archis said:
OK sorry but my Phone is not UK..it is HTC Europe version.
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Your in a bit of a bind then since you have the international version! Your phone might not have the right frequency support to get T-mobile 3g/4g until they complete their move of 3g to the 1900 band.
This is an excerpt from Anandtech Review
The International and T-Mobile One S differ in what UMTS bands are supported, as the International One S targets both Asia and Europe, while the T-Mobile version goes for the Americas. I’ve made a table with the pertinent information.
HTC One S - Network Support
GSM/EDGE Support 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
WCDMA Support
One S - International 850 / 900 / 2100 MHz
WCDMA Support
One S - T-Mobile 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
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You really need that 1700/1900 band for AWS 3g. However, t-mobile is currently moving 3g to the 1900 spectrum which should enable you to get 3g when it's done in your area.
Here is a map of current reported 1900 3g coverage. http://www.airportal.de/
Sorry to give you the bad news.
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I am travelling to Europe soon and can't really find out if the Sensation will fully work there. I am getting it SIM unlocked through TMOUS, but I am unsure about the actual bands it supports. I know it will work for standard GSM calling since where I am going 900 MHz is standard, but what about data? Will I at least be able to get 3G? Searched hi and low and couldn't find an answer to this anywhere. Thanks.
Paul
same boat
I'm in the same boat here. I leave for Ireland in the beginning of September, and hope to bring my T-Mobile Sensation (factory unlocked also). If anyone has any insight to this it would be greatly appreciated. 3G is a must now a days.
Go to gsmarena and look for the bands of the HTC Sensation and compare it with the Tmobile Sen 4g
just got back from spain/ibiza after a two week vacation:
i had a sim that ONLY did phone/sms and a friend had a sim that did data...but he kept complaining about the speed, so i'm assuming the speeds are edge-like. again, this was in ibiza and our choice of sims was limited...
HTH
gsmarena for htc sensations
that was a good idea hytl, looks like the tmobile version has two more frequencies on the HSDPA but everything else is the same. So our phones should work fine with 3G.
US Version
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 - For Bell (Canada)
European Version
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
Anyone know why the T-Mobile version doesn't pick up AT&T's 3G?(here in America) from what I've read online AT&T use's 850 and 1900, and gsmarena says it the T-Mobile Sensation can pick up those frequencies, but I dont get any 3G. actually I dont even get edge, I can just make phone calls and text, no data whats so ever on AT&T's network. dont know if i should start a new thread, but its confusing the hell out of me. Could it be a software lock? its not rooted or anything.
hi, im new to XDA. but does anyone here know if an unlocked TMobile HTC Amaze will work on ATT's 3g/4g network???
Please reply if you have any insight on this subject matter, thanks!!
Nope, tmobile bands are different from at&ts 3g/4g bands. I heard telus is getting it too and that one will work with at&t 3g/4g
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Nope, tmobile bands are different from at&ts 3g/4g bands. I heard telus is getting it too and that one will work with at&t 3g/4g
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thanks for the info. so, Tmobiles hspa+ band is different from att's hspa+ band??
Can someone please confirm with an unlocked unit?
ljwnow said:
Can someone please confirm with an unlocked unit?
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I have an unlocked Amaze, and while you can insert an At&t 4g sim, it will not get any of the HSD**, it will only lock on 2G...very ssslllooowwww. Voice, not a problem, but the phone comes with T-Mobile data radio. I inserted my at&t SGSII sim.I even added all known APNs for at&t 3g/4g, nope...don't work
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thanks for the info. so, Tmobiles hspa+ band is different from att's hspa+ band??
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T-Mobile USA High Speed data bands: 1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS
At&t High Speed data bands: 850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G 1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G 700 MHz LTE 4G
They are different.
SOURCE: Wikipedia/Google
Hope this helps
Check the amaze forums
There is a thread on this in the htc amaze forum, they say it may be compatible. Also the box says that it carries the bands for at&t. Check out the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300714
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The operating frequencies on the HTC Amaze 4G are
GSM (2G)
850 Cellular Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
900 Europe, Asia, Africa
1800 DCS Europe, Asia, Africa
1900 PCS Americas
WCDMA / HSPA+ 42 (3G / 4G)
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
2100 IMT / band 1 (I) Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel
ATT operates in the US on:
2G: 850 MHz, 1900 MHz
3G: 850 MHz, 1900 MHz
4G: 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz
That is how you were supposed to answer a topic. Not assuming things you don't know nothing about just because you feel your gut tells you so.
I've seen that a few samsungs and european HTCs can do this through service mode, but is there any way to force the Sensation 4G to 850mhz? according to HTC, the modem in the phone does support AT&T frequencies and the carrier with the best connection only supports 850mhz in my country, and i reeeally don't want to buy a new phone.
i know it's a longshot, but it's worth trying.
Be careful, you don't want to ruin your device. Watch for overheating. Watch for force closes. Any signs And go back to normal. Be very cautious overclocking that much
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
Its not overclocking, its trying to get one of the cellphone frequencies.
FG
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Be careful, you don't want to ruin your device. Watch for overheating. Watch for force closes. Any signs And go back to normal. Be very cautious overclocking that much
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
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i'm not talking about overclocking, it's the data modem, to put it simply, i need to be on AT&T frequencies but my phone is T-Mobile, and i've seen people change it according to their region. is it possible on the Sensation?
Well for starters the only way you would be able to operate on that frequency one your device has to be carrier free meaning unlocked from all gsm carrier's and this will allow your device to operate on that frequency meaning all you would have to do is swap sim cards if your device is carrier free and then you be able to put in AT&T sim card and reboot however you can't do this unless you are carrier free
sent from my sensation 4g using xda premium
The Sensation supports 850mhz for gsm. It does not support 850mhz or 1900mhz hspa (at least the us version does not support 1900 hspa, having aws instead).
So if you are using an att sim and want 850mhz, you would have to switch it to gsm only (although it'd only work with gsm anyway since att uses 850/1900 for hspa iirc, or maybe just 1900?).
Even then, it'd choose between 850 and 1900 depending on signal / area, etc.
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The Sensation supports 850mhz for gsm. It does not support 850mhz or 1900mhz hspa (at least the us version does not support 1900 hspa, having aws instead).
So if you are using an att sim and want 850mhz, you would have to switch it to gsm only (although it'd only work with gsm anyway since att uses 850/1900 for hspa iirc, or maybe just 1900?).
Even then, it'd choose between 850 and 1900 depending on signal / area, etc.
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meaning my sensation is confined to EDGE speeds on said networks??
Compatible networks GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850 900 1800 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA
850 1900 2100 or 900 1700 2100 MHz
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps
HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
tmo version supports 900/1700/2100.
looks like the other version not available in america supports 850/1900/2100 for umts.
not sure if there's any difference in hardware or if it's defined in software (not a part that's included in ruu's).
ziddey said:
Compatible networks GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850 900 1800 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA
850 1900 2100 or 900 1700 2100 MHz
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps
HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
tmo version supports 900/1700/2100.
looks like the other version not available in america supports 850/1900/2100 for umts.
not sure if there's any difference in hardware or if it's defined in software (not a part that's included in ruu's).
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Its a difference in hardware. The Canadian Bell version supports 850/1900 (AT&T Frequencies) You can use the T Mobile version but you will be limited to edge/2G only.
I'm thinking of buying a Note 10.1 and am in two minds whether to go for the 3G or just wifi version as I may be moving to the US in the next 4-5 months. Will the international 3G version work on T-Mobile or other US carrier in full HSPA+ speed?
OK, I found that Tmobile is moving it's HSPA network to a new frequency to be more compatible with the other networks.
4G/LTE upgrade
On February 23, 2012, during the Q4 Earnings Call, the future of the T-Mobile 4G upgrade path was laid out. T-Mobile's LTE network will be rolled out on the AWS spectrum, and their HSPA+ network will transition to the PCS band, in order to achieve compatibility with other networks and phones in the USA, T-Mobile plans to begin this transition in early 2013.[41]
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Radio frequency spectrum chart
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G - According to reports from users, T-Mobile started to reapportion its PCS frequency (UMTS frequency band II) for UMTS service in some areas. Will be expanded during LTE upgrade.[44]
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Source Wikipedia
And from Samsung the Note 10.1 has the following radio spectrums
Platform
850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz GSM&EDGE Band
850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz 3G Band
GPRS Network&Data: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
EDGE Network&Data: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network&Data
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So I assume that once Tmobile has finished their transition then the Note 10.1 will be able to get HSPA+ speeds over 3G or am I missing something?
I have an opportunity for a really good priced P6800. The seller does not know which carrier it is...? Here is what I was told:
These are the networks that the tab will work with.
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Please let me know.
Much appreciated!
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I have an opportunity for a really good priced P6800. The seller does not know which carrier it is...? Here is what I was told:
These are the networks that the tab will work with.
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Please let me know.
Much appreciated!
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Any GSM/HSPA network, which means about 99.99% of all networks in the world. Since you live in the USA, it means AT&T and T-Mobile (on most areas, in some places T-Mobile still didn't move their 3G band to the international standard frequency of 2.1GHz).