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Am I the only one who thinks that the desire is more closely related to the dhd than to the original desire?
Same type of body, same cpu and gpu, same form factor (no physical buttons...), same amount of ram.
Actually I think that it has been a good idea of HTC to introduce this kind of device: many people are just scared of the big screen and similar size of devices such as the dhd, and the major flaw of the dhd, its mediocre battery life, has been improved by using a higher capacity battery. For people like myself - I'm using a topaz at the moment - it's actually a wonderful replacement.
I do agree that it's not the ultimate mobile experience that everyone has been waiting for, but on the other hand: I don't think any company will be able to produce a phone that will be 'the best' for more than 3 months: they are already talking about quad-core cpus that will be 5 times as fast as the previous generation. So why should HTC try to do that with évery phone they produce?
If I see people are talking about 'never buying an HTC for the rest of my life' or shouting things like 'RIP HTC' then I think that they should take all this into consideration. I'm pretty sure that HTC will produce another 'flagship' in the near future that will be able to keep up with the best of the other brands.
This is just my modest opinion of course...
Htc is going to be like sh...y Nokia. The same phones in other boxes.
DesireHD, Incredible S, Desires ... all the same with minor differences.
And what to choose? Will there be one or two a flagship model, that I would really like to have ?
Obviously almost everyone is disappointed with the HTC's new range of devices, Maybe they thought Adreno 205 will suffice the lack of dual core CPU for gaming? Or they are just holding them back until there is enough demand for such devices? Just wait and see.
BTW HTC were never the best at hardware department, and they may still believe their Sense will actually "sell" these sub-par devices !
Id like toadd here,nokias r **** besides the 3310 of course
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Since I don't have an Android phone yet, I'm really pleased that HTC are at least doing little updates to their products just before I'm in a position to buy one.
But if I already had a Desire, I'd be fairly non-plussed. The Desire S is little more than a change of packaging, like when Sony Ericsson replaced the K800 with the K810.
The Incredible S might make a nice upgrade from a Desire, but it's still not a huge step up.
Your right there not even an amoled screen
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stevennekens said:
Actually I think that it has been a good idea of HTC to introduce this kind of device: many people are just scared of the big screen and similar size of devices such as the dhd, and the major flaw of the dhd, its mediocre battery life, has been improved by using a higher capacity battery. For people like myself - I'm using a topaz at the moment - it's actually a wonderful replacement.
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This. Different strokes for different folks. In the real world, longer battery life is always good.
I've bought one for my girlfriends. She likes it!
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I've bought one for my girlfriends. She likes it!
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Hello,
Next month I'll be moving to UK, according to this I'll be choosing new operator, new plan and of course, new mobile phone. I've been searching on the internet for a phone that might suit my needs. I ended up at HTC Sensation or Desire S. Whichever plan I'm looking at, Sensation is always about 100 pounds more expensive than Desire S. My question is; is Sensation worth those extra 100 pounds? Or is Desire S a better deal?
I've been using Symbian OS for the past years, I used to play with my phone over the borders of warranty, so I definitelly plan to do this with my next phone as well, that's why I chose Android as my next OS.
HTC seems as a high quality phone, manufactured well and that's important for me (no plastic such as Samsung). That's the reason I go for HTC.
I don't know anything about rooting and modifyng yet, but I read that every model has different possibilities; I'd like to hear differences between those two even in this area. This acts a big part!
I'd describe myself as an intermediate user, I like to suit everything to my needs. What I expect from my future phone:
-daily email and IM contact
-fast while multitasking
-battery capacity acts a big role in my decision
-great google calendar integration, as well as Facebook or any other IM
-good camera (Desire S is okay for me)
-Dropbox - access to my cloud
-as a student, I'll need to work with documents (.pdf .doc .xls)
-as a Linux user, good integration with Linux OS on my laptop
-occasionally use of GPS (moving to a new country)
-display that is clear outdoors (I'm afraid, HTC is not the best at this point)
-not being a pain while having it in my pocket - I mean, not a super huge monster (I'm afraid, Sensation is too big)
-generally, a phone that will last 2 years
I am open to new possibilities (HTC Cha Cha?). I guess both of them are well on hardware, this should not be an issue - but I might be wrong!
So which one would you suggest me? Invest a bit more into Sensation? Maybe some ideas from current users? I would really appreciate any response here, as I am completely lost and don't want to regret my decision in future!
P.S. Some suggestion about UK providers might be usefull as well
Thanks in advance!
-Uhro
Just my 0.02c Uhro, so feel free to disregard :
I have only limited experience with the Desire S, but have used an Incredible S (same hardware) extensively and own a Sensation. I'm a long-time fan of HTC phones, they're reasonably well-built and I'm a fan of Sense (it's one of those things you either love or hate, I think). The major downsides of their current handsets are poor loudspeakers and mediocre cameras.
I enjoyed my Incredible S far more than I enjoy my Sensation. For a powerful handset, it seems to struggle with a lot of things. I'm sure this is only due to Sense 3.0, but it still shouldn't happen. The day-to-day performance of my Incredible S blew it away, in both speed and fluidness of operation. I don't buy into the whole 'dual-core is better' argument just yet; the only dual-core phone I've had that actually 'felt' like a dual-core is the Motorola Atrix.
Screen quality is a well-raised issue with the Sensation. There are two, possibly more, screen variants available and they occur at random. I guess I was lucky; my Sensation has the Sharp screen. While colour reproduction and picture quality are about even (I've had lots of opportunity to compare), the 'ghosting' exhibited while scrolling through the browser and UI differs greatly, with the Sharp unit seeming superior. I have to say that in terms of screens, the Incredible S was far better; only the IPS on the LG Optimus 2x has been in the same league (to me) so far.
If specs aren't important to you, and everyday fluidness and performance in the UI are, I'd suggest the Desire S, or Incredible S if that's also an option. I found it just as zippy as the Incredible, although the screen was a little small for me. They're comparable in weight, and the Sensation actually isn't a whole lot bigger.
For HTC phones, they must have a lock removed on the phone memory before anything can be modified. You'll see this referred to as 'S-OFF'. Once S-OFF is obtained (there are software utilities available, plus a hardware solution exists) you can flash any ROM, Recovery, Radio etc. that is supported. I'd suggest browsing the forums for both devices to see which options appeal most.
Sorry for the long-winded response, hope this helps somewhat
The Sensation might be a good idea if you're on a contract/term and are trying to stay "futureproof". The Sensation does have its kinks, but they're being worked out constantly.
+1 for Desire S
i prefer sensation，desire s just like desire, changed a bit not much
Sensation ALLL THE WAYYYYYYY
Get the sensation. DO IT.
It's just been released and the ROM isn't as polished as the ones before like the desire/incredible/etc that's all.
BTW as far as smoothness goes, a Custom ROM should resolve anything pretty easily with a few minutes of work. The dual Core will make it a much better purchase as far as Future proofing is concerned.
The QHD screen is another reason to go for the sensation. If you are worried about the price just wait for a few more months. (If you can, that is! )
Thanks a lot guys for the responses! I'm a bit puzzled right now, maybe my 'lucky coin' should decide for me, pitty I don't have one yet
I think that my personal feelings will decide, while I will see both of them, display quality, and how do they both fit into my hands.. Because I see, that both of them have pros and cons.. Still a month to go, so many things or offers might change..
Anyway, big thanks for your experiences!
Uhro said:
I've been using Symbian OS for the past years, I used to play with my phone over the borders of warranty, so I definitelly plan to do this with my next phone as well, that's why I chose Android as my next OS.
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the sensation has a much bigger community here on xda than the desire. if you plan on modding your phone, this is good news for you (because there is more development going on for the sensation than the desire; more development=more roms and kernels=more customization)
hello
im a new user to this forum and very happy from this.
please help me for buy a smart phone.
please comparison between sensation and galaxy sii and consider sensation is cheaper than galaxy but it has the more features of galaxy
thanks alot
Sensation is better than Galaxy. Hands down.
It's not better than the Galaxy Nexus, though...
To the OP, wait until February. The Mobile World Congress takes place then and you'll see all the new handsets being released. THEN you can make a proper decision
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Sensation is better than Galaxy. Hands down.
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Not really. If I had the chance to change my sensation to an galaxy, I wouldn't doubt a second. The crappy build, and the crappy everything, makes me want to give HTC one on the head.
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Not really. If I had the chance to change my sensation to an galaxy, I wouldn't doubt a second. The crappy build, and the crappy everything, makes me want to give HTC one on the head.
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If I could switch I would do it in an instant. Can't use the phone in bed due to wifi signal, random signal drops with 3 different phones with multiple roms, low res screen, etc. Its worth only 350 now too, with phones like GS2 still holding their price.
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If I could switch I would do it in an instant. Can't use the phone in bed due to wifi signal, random signal drops with 3 different phones with multiple roms, low res screen, etc. Its worth only 350 now too, with phones like GS2 still holding their price.
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Absolutely !
Hmm, everyone has different choices.
Anyway, I totally agree with Eddy over here.. you should wait till Feb.
I'd go for the sensation..the GSII feels like a cheap plastic phone for little kids to play with
I own a sensation XE while my other half owns a S2. Side by side the s2 is faster by a few seconds. But thats about it. They both run the same games as well as each other. The screens both look good (better colours on the S2 but more crisp image on the Sensation. The build quality is good on both. If you don't mind the plastic. If you like a premium feeling device I would go with the Sensation.
I'd go SGS2. My brother-in-law has one and I've had a chance to play with it quite a bit. I'm pretty envious, but I would never tell him that haha.
As for why? The legend of HTC build quality just isn't true anymore. My volume rocker has started to stick after 5 months and it's annoying, my power button double presses when I don't have the case on, wifi deathgrip really sucks, and the cellular antenna design is just terrible. Integrated with the removable back cover? Really?? That's not even getting into the fact that SGS2 is just plain out faster than Sensation.
Sensation isn't a bad phone mind you. I would trade it in a heartbeat, but I still like it. It's still a very nice high end device that does what I want it to do. But if the SGS2 was out when I so desperately needed a phone 5 months ago, I probably wouldn't be posting this.
But like EddyOS said. Best thing to do is wait if you can.
I think the only differences between the SGSII and the Sensation are
SGSII has NFC, Sensation doesn't
SAMOLED+ vs. S-LCD Display
Touchwiz vs. Sense 3.0
it's comepletely up to you.
thanks from those who responded.
see,sensation has a lot of gsII's options and it's cheaper than gsII.but,galaxy had been better in the tests.i wish i made a poll to make it easier to decide.
i used my uncle galaxy sii and i hate it's user interface and i thought the htc user interface is so better and it's more beautiful than sumsong
thank's a lot.
You won't be happy with the software on the sensation. Go SG2
HTC Sensation.....FTW !!
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You won't be happy with the software on the sensation. Go SG2
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ok.it's personalisation that you like this user interface or that one.i think HTC company works on the software a lot and it's software is more beautiful,more performance and.... than the others.
please talk more about their hardware and thanks a lot.
Well, here's my personal experience with both devices. I believe there's also still a topic I started hidden somewhere on the forums here when I was to decide wether to go with the SGSII, Sensation (XE) or wait for the Galaxy Nexus.
Now I'm in the possession of both the SGSII and the Sensation XE, so I pretty much have the best of both worlds. Down here is a quick overview of my personal experiences and a conclusion to why I'm using my current device (the Sensation XE).
Samsung Galaxy SII - International White Edition
At first glance it seemed like a great phone, small in design and a dedicated home button which can also wake up your phone instead of having to pry around with a power button alone. However, after holding it in my hands entirely set up with the battery in it, the weight was just way to low. I actually had to check my pockets regularly just to see if I was still in the possession of my phone. Now, I can see why people would like that, but the fact that the phone is so light comes with a price.
The durability of the phone seems to be abysmal. After inserting the battery and the simcard+MicroSD I had to put the back cover back on. That went according to plan, but suddenly I felt that the back cover wasn't matching up with the phone's housing anymore. There was a slight bulge where you have to insert your fingernail to remove the back cover which annoyed me to no end. After that, I decided to get a cover for my phone so it would stop annoying me, which it did.
Then the next issue arose with the hardware of the phone. The home button started to wiggle around a bit. no biggie I guessed, and just kept using the phone as it was. After a week or 2, a cracking noise came from the home button. Seeing as I hardly use the home button, it kind of surprised me, and I decided to think of it as a way to "crack in the device" like a new pair of shoes. Regardless, after a few more days of moderately to heavily using the phone, the cracking noise only got worse, and I decided to return the phone.
The replacement phone immediately suffered the same issue with the back cover, but with my case around it, it wasn't noticable, but the thought of knowing that it's there still annoyed me. Also, I had lost faith in the home button and tried to avoid using it as much as possible, so I only used the power button on the right side to wake my phone etc. After a while, the power button started failing to wake up my phone and I was forced to use my home button once again.
As far as software goes, the standard TouchWiz interface which comes with the phone is a immense piece of ****, excuse my language. I cannot tell you enough how much I hated it. Regardless, this is all up to personal preference, but it lagged for me at times, and only a complete reboot of the phone would restore a bit of fluidity.
The screen however is amazing. Regardless of the fact that the colors are over saturated to an extreme, the pictures and browsing I did seemed clear as day. No issues whatsoever with it. The only gripe I had with the screen was its resolution. at a 480x800 resolution, text would often appear jagged around the edges and not as sharp as I would have liked it to be. Even installling the Roboto font which is specifically made for text clarity, couldn't take away the roughness of the letters.
That's when I decided to start looking into custom roms, rooting and kernels. After trying out a multitude of roms, ranging from the golden oldies which have had quite some development time behind them to the recently released ones, the only rom which made my SGSII feel as it should be was Cyanogenmod. I must say that I was impressed by the fluidity of it. Regardless, I had to give up certain hardware acceleration options just to get a more fluid phone, which is not how it was intended in my opinion. This resulted in my feeling ripped off by Samsung.
However, the benchmark scores on the customised SGSII were out of this world. once you OC the processor to it's max and run a few benchies, you'll be quite impressed by what the device is capable of. However, in day to day use, it's impossible to keep overclocking it without having an immense amount of additional batteries stowed away in your bag, which brings me to my last point.
Before I chose to go to the Android side, I used to own an i4. Yes I know, bad choice and glad I'm back on the Android side after a year. However, the i4's battery life was simply amazing compared to the SGSII. The SGSII would not last me close to a days worth of work and I often had to recharge in the middle of the day. Note: This occured even with underclocking the processor, turning Wi-fi off and all the battery saving things which have been mentioned here on XDA. Whereas I was offended by the i4 that the battery didn't last me 2 days of moderate use (some games, browsing, video's and heavy music usage) the SGSII just left me baffled over the abysmal results it was producing. This is no different on the Sensation, but more on that in my second segment.
TLDR: Plastic device with rather bad production quality with hardware failures all around on 2 seperate devices. Great screen for colors, not so great for text. Battery life leaves much to be desired and fluidity of the device could most certainly be a lot better. A definite featherweight though, and if that's your thing, this is the ideal phone.
HTC Sensation XE Edition
The hardware on the phone is simply phenomenal. The aluminium finish really makes a difference in both style and quality. The fact that the entire frame is replacable is definitely a plus for when you accidentally drop your phone and the panel is scratched. The outside was definitely hard to remove the first time, but after inserting the battery, simcard and SD card, I didn't need to reopen the device again. Once closed up the construction still feels very solid without any mishaps on production quality. The weight of the phone is a lot more as how I like it and the rounded edges make it a lot easier to hold in my hands compared to both the i4 and the sgsII with their sharper edges.
As far as the hardware goes, people have reported both light leakages and dust under the screen, but I did not experience any of those issues on my Sensation XE. The screen is still dust free after 2 months of usage, and there is no light leakage whatsoever. I inspected the device for light leakage in a dark room under my blanket with the screen on and off for an extended period of time. The softkey buttons respond well and the volume rocker is solid as I like it. The power button is slightly more inconveniently placed, but nothing to fret about.
As far as the software goes. The Sense 3.0 interface which comes standard with the phone really makes this phone as special as it is. Unable to be ported to any other manufactureres devices, Sense provided me with sleek visuals while remaining to give me a fluid experience with the device. Ever so often the device would soft-reset itself because it runs out of memory though. Which could be seen as an annoyance at start, but hasn't happened to me after the first week for some odd reason. The Sense overlay really made my like this phone, and I have since then looked upon all previous devices I owned as inferior when it comes to their individual overlays.
The screen, standing at a qHD resolution of 960x540 which is simply great. Not astounishingly great, but it simply is wonderful. While I've always been sceptic about resolution differences on phones it has become more than apparant to me that even this tiny resolution difference on this 4.3'' screen makes a huge difference. Text is sharper, images are sharper and the overall experience is far more enjoyable. Not only when browsing, but while looking at videos and pictures as well. The colors aren't quite as vibrant as on the SGSII, but that's not something I'm actually missing. There have been talks about the screen having washed out colors at certain angles, but please, at the angles where the colors start washing out, you won't be using your device anyway.
The modding community for the Sensation seems to be quite equal to the SGSII's community, but there's one difference. The Sensation mod community seems to be a much nicer bunch compared to the SGSII, keep in mind that this is a subjective view, and should not be taken as a fact. After S-off'ing the device, rooting and installing custom roms, it's hard to stick with one certain rom while thre is so much to choose from here. Ranging from the standard Sensation roms to the XE roms and kernels, there's plenty to mess around with.
The battery life however, oh oh oh HTC, you failed there. You made an excellent device and then simply mess it all up with the battery. At first I wasn't able to get through an afternoon with the device. But that was mostly thanks to my "honeymoon" period with the device where I tried to exert its every resource. After installing a couple of different kernels and roms, I've managed to get up to 16 hours of battery out of the phone, which is more than acceptable. Keep in mind though that you might want to consider getting an extended battery.
TLDR: Great build quality with a good weight attached to it. Sense overlay really is a + for me, and the higher resolution screen definitely helps the Sensation in its presentational value. The battery life and lesser amount of ram shouldn't have been there on the flagship device, but when looking at the device in it's entirety, I must say that this is the least of my worries. Definitely a worthy device.
Conclusion:
I love my Senny, the form factor and android overlay simply made this phone into my favorite phone so far. It has also refilled my trust in HTC and its products after the failure which was the G1. I currently only use my SGSII as a backup device for when my battery dies on my Senny and is pretty much used as data storage whenever not in use, as that's all what its good for in my opinion.
Do take my opinion with a grain of salt, as I'm currently quite favorable towards the Sensation XE which I own. Nonetheless both devices have their ups and downs, but the upsides of the SGSII do not outweigh the failures.
Excuse this long wall of text and the lack of english grammar, I'm not a native speaker and I'm sure there are plenty of mistakes in here!
Regards,
Vex
Please do your own research and come to your own conclusion. Try your best to get some hands-on experience for yourself with both phones, and pick whatever YOU think is better.
I don't mean this in a condescending manner. I mean this in the most helpful manner possible, because asking one particular group for just their opinions is particularly dangerous.
When you come into our forum, you are going to get a ton of biased responses making it as if our phone is the bomb. Many responses will be critical of the other phone, even though a lot of those responses come from people who don't own that phone and/or haven't even used one before. Another hugely dangerous thing is that people will give you an opinion based on what THEY value, not what you value. You will get a lot of the "SGS2 feels like a toy" responses, which indicates that that person clearly prioritizes the feel of a phone. Those voices will crowd out the few voices of people with different values (like me), who would say things like "Sensation performs like a toy". People will say run a custom ROM, OC, different kernel, yada yada, and I've done all that, and in my experience the Sensation just doesn't run as smoothly as other phones.
There are other things that have made my Sensation experience less than pleasurable. It's just overall an under-spec'd phone IMO. Less RAM than most dual-cores, undoubtedly a pathetic amount of internal storage (1 GB, really?), an asynchronous dual-core that IMO was a poor decision, a screen that lacks in the brightness department (yes, resolution is nice, but brightness is not), software that was just plain and simple horribly finished (I love Sense but I cannot stand how much of a fail it was in terms of making sure it would run well and smoothly), a horrible speaker (worst I've heard on a phone), "build quality" that makes me question why people continue to praise HTC for that (death grip that is more significant than most phones, a creaky back, dust issues under the screen, and the backlight for the capacitive buttons leaks through a tiny crack on the side of the phone, a pseudo-unibody design), and more. The Sensation is overall just a good device, a 7 out of 10 in my book. The phones of now like the Galaxy Nexus, Droid Razr, and the like are far better IMO on paper, and I'm sure if I got hands-on experience I would like them more than the Sensation.
The issue is that clearly some people who value one certain set of aspects will love the phone. Another group of people who value a different set of aspects won't like it as much. That would be me: poor performance bothers me more than plastic build possibly could (I've had a plastic Samsung phone before, and while it was nothing to look at or hold, it was tough as heck). The thing is, my opinion doesn't matter, because I don't know what YOU value. YOU shouldn't base YOUR decision on what I value.
I suppose it's OK to get opinions from owners, but you HAVE to make sure you get them from both sides, and you HAVE to take them ALL with a grain of salt. Optimally, you'll gather opinions and then get some hands-on experience to see what really applies to you.
I wholeheartedly agree with The Janitor Mop. As you can see, both our experiences differ by quite a large margin. Therefore it is of utmost importance that you try out both devices in-store yourself to draw the best conclusion for yourself.
Even though we can outline our experiences of the device with a slightly biased opinion, the truth of the matter is that none of our needs will be exactly the same as the needs you will have for this particular phone.
So, go to your local store and ask to try out both devices!
Stealing the topic from the owner..
I'd like to ask the same question. I'm going to the US in February, and i'd like to buy a new flagship for me. I had a Nexus S, and now I'm looking for the next.
So, what currently are the best phones, hardware speaking, that are available? Don't mind the OS or brand, and I'm looking mostly for a feature phone, it must be GSM. Thank you a lot.
PS: Forgot to mention, I'm on a budget, $600 tops please.
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Hello! first of all I know there is tons of threads and articles about HOX vs GS3, I'm not here to debate which one is the best phone ever I know they are both awesome I just need help to know which one is the best for me and you can help me by giving me your personal opinion on what will follow.
I made this thread because while I think I'd be really happy with either GS3 or One X I'm not throwing 600-700$ away before I'm sure which to choose and I wont regret my purchase or be thinking "I should have bought the other one", I'll keep this phone for at least 2 years and I wanna know which fits the best for me (and my needs).
Please don't come here to comment: "Samsung suck" or "HTC suck" "look at benchmarks" or other stupid trolling comments like that, if you need to say the main concurrent of your phone sucks to convince yourself your phone is good, I think you have a problem.
Now I'll just tell how what kind of phone I'll need, I'll be using it mainly for web browsing over 3G, I'll also use it to watch animes (with subs), youtube videos and maybe streams, MP3 and games (probably more emulators than crappy gameloft games with a bluetooth gamepad because I just hate to play games with virtual buttons on screen...), I need decent battery life (ideally 5-6h on screen time for web browsing watching video and some gaming)
Now I need your opinion on the pros and cons list I made for both devices (some of them are personal I'm not saying sense is better than touchwiz I'm just saying I prefer it, as for the design it's my personal opinion):
(if you see "(?)" it means I'm not sure about that (like something I read on forums but with no source, could be true but not sure about it))
Please give your opinion about the phone you own not about what you heard or read somewhere (I'm talking about people *****ing about the other phone while they haven't even tested it), I want honest feedback, if you own or owned both phones I'd like to know why you kept one instead of the other
I'll post this on both forums (HTC and Samsung) to see feedback from both GS3 and One X users.
HTC one X:
Pros:
-Design
-Sense 4.0 (really love the UI of sense)
-Screen
-Perfs
-HTC updates frequently (?)
-Battery life idle
-Text adapting in web browser when zooming in
-Playstation mobile (?)
-Tegra games (?)
Cons:
-Not optimized (Tegra3 driver still running on gingerbread kernel not ICS, sense using a lot of ram and sometimes laggy (?) may change with updates)
-Multitasking (refresh everytime you switch from an app to another, really annoying when in the middle of a webpage or a youtube video but fixable with script and custom roms)
-Heats a lot when gaming
-1080p recording @ 20ish FPS (fixable with updates?)
-Hard to root (and voids warranty...)
-No USB OTG (yet, may come with updates)
-No S-OFF (yet)
Neutral:
-Battery life (may get better with updates can also get better with custom roms / kernels and tweaking)
-Sense laggy sometimes (?)
-Audio
-No SD card
-Cannot replace battery (in case the battery dies you just have to buy another one?...)
Hopes:
-Nvidia to release soon the ICS kernel update for Tegra3 that should boost perfs and also gives the One X better battery life
-OTG USB update cause since One X don't have micro SD support with this update the phone would support USB flashdrives etc... So a must in my opinion
-Update to fix sense glitch and general performance to use less ram etc...
-S-OFF
Fears:
-I'v read something about HTC not doing really well lately, I'm afraid this could affect updates for the One X
-I'm also afraid that as soon as they release a new phone they just drop the one X
-Also about the Tegra3 drivers for ICS kernel Nvidia could release it in a month as they could release it in a year... Also people are saying it will improve the perfs and the battery life but maybe it will change nothing...
Samsung GS3:
Pros:
-Perfs
-Multitasking
-Battery life
-Audio
-Already optimized
-Doesn't heat even when gaming (?)
-SD card
-OTG USB
-Will have a bigger community, more roms etc... (?)
-Easy to root
-1080p recording @ 30 FPS
-Better blacks (screen)
-You can replace the battery
Cons:
-Touchwiz
-Slow and rare Samsung updates (?)
-Battery life idle
Neutral:
-Design
-Screen
-Saturated colors (screen)
-S-voice and others "features" are nothing but gimmicks
Hopes:
-Sense 4.0 being ported to GS3 (without multitasking issues and optimised)
-I hope Samsung will do frequent updates for the device to fix bugs and keep the phone updated.
Fears:
-One of my bigest fear is HTC to fix the One X right after I buy the GS3...
-As for the One X I fear Samsung to not update the phone or drop it as soon as they release a new device...
Thanks for your time and sorry for my english.
In my personal opinion, based on your needs, the One X should be fine for the most part. The biggest concern will be the screen on time. I personally have only managed 4ish hours screen on time.
But the way I worked around it is with an external battery pack which I just use to top up when I'm not using the phone (or even when I am).
Sounds as if you have already made your mind up you just don't know it yet by the looks of your post, go with Samsung!
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Very nice opening of a thread but I think it's irrelevant.
People here have a HTC One X because it's HTC One X General section.
So how can you have a clear opinion from people with a HTC One X who don't have the other device you mention?
Maybe you better post this question in the general section of XDA?
As this is HTC One X section and has nothing todo with that other machine.
Besides that, soooooo... many tried to open a thread like this before you and all these threads end up in a fight.
So my advise is, if you like to know about opinions of both phones read about both phones in several forums but I think it's not very smart to open an anoying thread like this.
Btw, that's my opinion.
The only way you'll ever know is if you try both yourself. Buy sim-free devices from a reputable company with a good return policy and have fun making up your mind
From what i read, you need the s3 cuz you want many screen on time. You can bring extra battery and pop it in.
From what i think, you are right bout updates. Samsung tend to leave their prev flagships phone with late updates and when they do, half finished work that needs lots of updates to fix it. HTC updates them, but tries as perfectly as possible. N HTC has longer software update support too.
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My personal opinion is that I think the HTC One X is a better device overall than the SGS3, but obviously its very close and both have pros and cons. Obviously most people in this forum will prefer the One X. And I've been a Samsung owner for my last two phones (SGS, Infuse), and was anxiously awaiting the SGS3 announcement thinking I was going to get one. It was announced, I wasn't that impressed, I got the HTC One X instead (cheaper too, at least off contract) and I'm happy that I did.
One thing to note though, I see you put TouchWiz on the cons for SGS3, but I'd probably say TouchWiz on the SGS3 is better than Sense 4. Sense 4 is nice, and I have no problem with it, but I've been running SGS3 builds on my Infuse and I like it more.
The SGS3 is definitely more friendly for custom ROMs being that it's bootloader is already unlocked, however, I don't doubt the development community's ability to do just fine with the HOX. If it was a smaller phone, that would be one thing, but this is an international flagship. There are a lot of people working on it, just like the SGS3. I'm not too worried about customization abilities.
But hey, go find them both, hold them both, and try using them both. Just pick what you like more. Some things are more important to one person than another.
Not sure if firmware upgrades will make htc's one x battery to last longer, unless that somehow increases the number of cells or the capacity of the battery.
As for one x pros, people always forget one of the newest improvements it has camera-wise: you can take pictures while recording video. Not sure if the gs3 has the "selective burst mode" that the one x has.
For me, putting back touch wiz and buttons was a step back for the gs3. A step forward was putting a bigger battery.
If speed is what you want, why not go for the one s?
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Not sure if firmware upgrades will make htc's one x battery to last longer, unless that somehow increases the number of cells or the capacity of the battery.
As for one x pros, people always forget one of the newest improvements it has camera-wise: you can take pictures while recording video. Not sure if the gs3 has the "selective burst mode" that the one x has.
For me, putting back touch wiz and buttons was a step back for the gs3. A step forward was putting a bigger battery.
If speed is what you want, why not go for the one s?
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Oh yeah i heard One S has goddamn better battery life than One X due to the screen and dual core.
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That's logical isn't, I mean duo or quad core?
And about battery live, I think besides updates on the OS you can improve the performance with a radio for your area as well. About the other things, a bad choise of apps can drain your battery really fast as well so I'm sure if HTC updates the Core or improves applications it can improve battery. Not that battery is so bad with HTC One X, I'm pretty satisfied, but you can't compair the device with a single or dual core I think, that's not fair to my opinion. To my opinion HTC One X has a much better design as the Samsung Galaxy SIII, much more elegant and stylish. Not such a flat squared boring design as the SIII. And about the service of HTC, to my opinion it rocks as well, in all the 8 years I use HTC devices I had only once a issue with a device, they picked up and returned it fixed in 3 days.
I think this is all important to the Op to my opinion as he has to make a decission.
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Oh yeah i heard One S has goddamn better battery life than One X due to the screen and dual core.
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Not sure if firmware upgrades will make htc's one x battery to last longer, unless that somehow increases the number of cells or the capacity of the battery.
As for one x pros, people always forget one of the newest improvements it has camera-wise: you can take pictures while recording video. Not sure if the gs3 has the "selective burst mode" that the one x has.
For me, putting back touch wiz and buttons was a step back for the gs3. A step forward was putting a bigger battery.
If speed is what you want, why not go for the one s?
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I must agree with Leo, one thing has made me in love with HTC is it´s superior design and build quality over any other existent brand, so even if GSIII had better specs I rather took One X
S3..!!!!!!!
Looking at the rapid growth of the android phones and the huge success of Samsung over their Galaxy series and also a large number of custom roms available and firmware updates too, I would tell samsung galaxy S3 is the one and the best till date..
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That's logical isn't, I mean duo or quad core?
And about battery live, I think besides updates on the OS you can improve the performance with a radio for your area as well. About the other things, a bad choise of apps can drain your battery really fast as well so I'm sure if HTC updates the Core or improves applications it can improve battery. Not that battery is so bad with HTC One X, I'm pretty satisfied, but you can't compair the device with a single or dual core I think, that's not fair to my opinion. To my opinion HTC One X has a much better design as the Samsung Galaxy SIII, much more elegant and stylish. Not such a flat squared boring design as the SIII. And about the service of HTC, to my opinion it rocks as well, in all the 8 years I use HTC devices I had only once a issue with a device, they picked up and returned it fixed in 3 days.
I think this is all important to the Op to my opinion as he has to make a decission.
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haha i'm just stating the obvious...
Mhm, personally people have their own opinions depends what you would want to keep.
Sg3 battery life is great with a battery that it has already! As far as updates from Samsung, they seem to roll out updates about biweekly.
Haven't yet tried a game that it could not handle.
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Are two excellent devices, appearance, many features and utilities, is purely a matter of personal taste. See the pros, contra and finally what fits your personality.
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
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Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........
jmcdonald58 said:
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
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I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
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Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.
I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.