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I really was a HTC fanboy, both software and hardware wise, after seeing their first HTC Desire and later the Desire HD. That made me ditch the iphone and switch to android.
Recently, I am starting to regret having bought the Sensation. Build quality my arse. This phone is full of bugs and disappointments, my biggest issues being:
- Power Button issue (no its NOT software related, at least not with my unit and the "fix" don't work)
- Battery reading and jumping issues. My phone stays way too long on 100% and then takes a dive instead of showing the energy levels correctly. And no matter what it shows, when I restart it the percentage magically jumps up around 15%, only to drop swiftly little later. Yes I did calibrate the battery in Android and yes I did several charge-discharge circles with all my 3 batteries.
- Sluggish Performance. Yes there are "ultra-hyper-mega-omega-smooth" ROMs but it only helps so much, many menus still have an apparent lag when scrolling, most famously the appdrawer (when u install more than just a few apps) and whatsapp when scrolling through chat history.
Also, in Electopia benchmark, the highest I get is 30 FPS, with an AOSP ROM. SGSII users get 49 fps no problem and they don't need to OC their device to 8.7GHz like we do to achieve it. I know benchmarks say nothing but this is a game with nice graphics and I can actually SEE the performance difference with my own eyes.
-Touchscreen problem. It's gone now, yes. But come on! Who tells me this will not resurface after 2 years in a much more severe way?
- Loudness. The phonespeaker blows, when I show someone a song or vid on the phone you can barely hear it. Same problem for in-call volume. No, Volume+ does not really help and it makes sound everything like shiat. I thought the iphone had a bad speaker but now I actually think it was quite good after seeing the lower end of the quality spectrum
-Broken 3D engine and no official fix for it. I need to rely on devs to do their work? Screw you htc
-Camera. Nothing in particular except that it is not as good as I expected and it lacks some features even my old Sony Ericsson k800i had like burst mode etc. Yes you can have it if you install the camera apk from a different htc phone but there usually are compatibility problems. Plus, why can't my phone have a decent camera app of its own? Too much to ask, HTC? Guess their priorities are elsewhere.
- The phone was half-baked to begin with and got patched up to adress the most severe problems rather than being good at launch and "sensational" after updates.
I'm interested in your opinion wheter a future ICS RUU will make things any better. I would sell my Sensation now and probably go for a Samsung. The thing is, I have bought a cover and two extra batteries for it and I'm not looking forward to buying those accessories again, especially because Amazon doesn't ship to my country. And I hear folks say all the time how ICS will make our device shine because of native dualcore support etc. In that case, it might well be worth to wait a little...
The thing is, I just don't believe in it anymore. HTC seems more busy pushing out new models than refining current ones. Hell, since the launch of the first Sensation alone they have thrown 2 additional versions of it in the market, let alone the number of completely new phones released or soon to be released.
I think fragmentation is becoming a major problem with HTC. Look at the leaked 3.3.5 RUU that all the devs build upon, it's been around for forever. But the real thing never saw the light of day and now with ICS out, I think it never will. When HTC has a flagship phone, you can bet they will have a new one in 6 weeks time. The Sensation got replaced by the Sensation XE (Different ROM&Kernel, not just fancy new colours) and the Sensation XE got replaced by the HTC Rezound all in less than 6 months.
HTC announced they will release ICS for Sensation around March. By that time, the Sensation will be a second class phone with quadcores already in the pipeline. The way I know HTC, their first ICS build will be full of crap and bugs. But because they will be busy pushing out new phones, we will have to live with their halfdone work. And by that time, I will prolly get much less for it if sold than I would right now.
What do you think? Sell now or wait and hope/pray for improvement?
Look. If you really dislike the phone that much, sell it now. ICS will change many things; improve some, make some worse. That's just how it goes. Then they'll patch the issues with the next patch etc. But judging from your post, I'd recommend you sell it and get another phone. Just don't touch anything Samsung.
You better sell it if you hate it that much. Why most people buy HTC? Because they can flash anything they whant and make the device better than stock. (same with Samsungs Plastic Devices) I never had any of the prolems you are talking about on my XE with the same Hardware. The Sensation XE is my 4th HTC phone and all of them were great never got any problems (Hardware or Software). And when i read something about benchmark i whant to throw up. What does it help if you have high scores and you device is laggy? If the performance is good i don't care about scores. And like FnH84 said ICS will make much things better but some things worse but we are here at XDA and our devs will make it all perfekt. It only needs some time. Android is a "Hacker phone" (let's call it like this) Out of the Box it's not the best OS but you can modify it in every way you whant and that makes it unique. If you need a phone that works perfekt out of the box you should buy icrap or WP7 on this phones you can do nothing wrong and they are easy to use.
Greez
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Why don't we just gather all the ones that got a "faulty" device and retards that have something against specific brands, me included I truly hate Apple , HTC samgay and all the rest brands and see which phone (brand) gets the most posts ala we hate, it sucks yada yada doo.
1. Sensation build quality is robust and good, I have had 3 units.
2. Sense is not for every one but some intend to like it.
3. HTC is one of the older players (the oldest) on the android market. They know how to create something that wasn't there f.ex dual core support gingerbread.
4. Great screen with great resolution.
5. Screw you I'm going home!
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You are exaggerating things... Practically HTC mobiles are the best out there...
There is still little bit of lag but didn't effect me personally when using as phone...
HTC developers are much better than those Samsung ones... Atleast we have HTC Sense which other brand developers drag their ass to port to their handsets...
I still love it and it's the best for me..
you don't like it then sell it... Bye bye...
Sensation happens to be my best HTC and android phone. I have fewer problems than with MT3G, Nexus1, MT4G. Very pleased overall, just my 2c worth
Sensation happens to be a great phone for me ... much better than the galaxy s II
Feeling lucky ... didnt have any of those issues ...
I somewhat agree with OP, not everything, but certain points.
It did feel half-baked to start with. 2.08 base feels a lot more sleek though, shame they have not finished it, would be nice to have as an option, fully stable option I mean if they (HTC) **** up ICS.
Assuming HTC actually optimise Sense for ICS I can only see the Sensation getting better. Yes it runs now but I've had to make my own ROM for it. Does it bother me? Not in the slightest!! I enjoy it!!
The build quality of HTC handsets is second to none. I've had the HD2, Desire and now the Sensation and they just feel right. A nice bit of weight is reassuring, it means I know it's in my pocket.
OK, the camera isn't as good as other manufacturers but if I was that interested in taking a picture I'd use a camera (shock horror !!!)
End of the day if you're not happy, flog it and get something 'better'. Otherwise, enjoy what you have and look forward to more awesome ROMs from us Devs
What many people like to forget is, that higher display resolution is always a trade off between look and performance.
Of course the Samsung S2, with slightly better Hardware, performs better... It has only 800*480 Pixels to render.
I'm happy with my sensation. Of course it could be better, but there is no device out there that satisfies all my needs. And the sensation is the one that gets closest to that task.
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+1 Sensation..best phone out there, at least for me.
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I really was a HTC fanboy, both software and hardware wise, after seeing their first HTC Desire and later the Desire HD. That made me ditch the iphone and switch to android.
Recently, I am starting to regret having bought the Sensation. Build quality my arse. This phone is full of bugs and disappointments, my biggest issues being:
- Power Button issue (no its NOT software related, at least not with my unit and the "fix" don't work)
- Battery reading and jumping issues. My phone stays way too long on 100% and then takes a dive instead of showing the energy levels correctly. And no matter what it shows, when I restart it the percentage magically jumps up around 15%, only to drop swiftly little later. Yes I did calibrate the battery in Android and yes I did several charge-discharge circles with all my 3 batteries.
- Sluggish Performance. Yes there are "ultra-hyper-mega-omega-smooth" ROMs but it only helps so much, many menus still have an apparent lag when scrolling, most famously the appdrawer (when u install more than just a few apps) and whatsapp when scrolling through chat history.
Also, in Electopia benchmark, the highest I get is 30 FPS, with an AOSP ROM. SGSII users get 49 fps no problem and they don't need to OC their device to 8.7GHz like we do to achieve it. I know benchmarks say nothing but this is a game with nice graphics and I can actually SEE the performance difference with my own eyes.
-Touchscreen problem. It's gone now, yes. But come on! Who tells me this will not resurface after 2 years in a much more severe way?
- Loudness. The phonespeaker blows, when I show someone a song or vid on the phone you can barely hear it. Same problem for in-call volume. No, Volume+ does not really help and it makes sound everything like shiat. I thought the iphone had a bad speaker but now I actually think it was quite good after seeing the lower end of the quality spectrum
-Broken 3D engine and no official fix for it. I need to rely on devs to do their work? Screw you htc
-Camera. Nothing in particular except that it is not as good as I expected and it lacks some features even my old Sony Ericsson k800i had like burst mode etc. Yes you can have it if you install the camera apk from a different htc phone but there usually are compatibility problems. Plus, why can't my phone have a decent camera app of its own? Too much to ask, HTC? Guess their priorities are elsewhere.
- The phone was half-baked to begin with and got patched up to adress the most severe problems rather than being good at launch and "sensational" after updates.
I'm interested in your opinion wheter a future ICS RUU will make things any better. I would sell my Sensation now and probably go for a Samsung. The thing is, I have bought a cover and two extra batteries for it and I'm not looking forward to buying those accessories again, especially because Amazon doesn't ship to my country. And I hear folks say all the time how ICS will make our device shine because of native dualcore support etc. In that case, it might well be worth to wait a little...
The thing is, I just don't believe in it anymore. HTC seems more busy pushing out new models than refining current ones. Hell, since the launch of the first Sensation alone they have thrown 2 additional versions of it in the market, let alone the number of completely new phones released or soon to be released.
I think fragmentation is becoming a major problem with HTC. Look at the leaked 3.3.5 RUU that all the devs build upon, it's been around for forever. But the real thing never saw the light of day and now with ICS out, I think it never will. When HTC has a flagship phone, you can bet they will have a new one in 6 weeks time. The Sensation got replaced by the Sensation XE (Different ROM&Kernel, not just fancy new colours) and the Sensation XE got replaced by the HTC Rezound all in less than 6 months.
HTC announced they will release ICS for Sensation around March. By that time, the Sensation will be a second class phone with quadcores already in the pipeline. The way I know HTC, their first ICS build will be full of crap and bugs. But because they will be busy pushing out new phones, we will have to live with their halfdone work. And by that time, I will prolly get much less for it if sold than I would right now.
What do you think? Sell now or wait and hope/pray for improvement?
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I've never had a problem with power button, battery, touchscreen or 3D engine.
Speaker, I agree with you, could be better and louder.
Camera, what you expected? It is only phone camera. For me picture quality is very good. And I don't need burst mode, it is unimportant feature.
Performance is very good. UI acceleration is disabled by default to save battery life, you can simply enable it.
SGS II has better performance in 3D, but Sensation has 35% more pixels.
Agreed with the OP, but then again like others have said, Better build quality than any other manufacturer, Sense (at least for me), and the ability to flash whatever the **** you want makes me buy HTC phones. Even though I wouldn't mind a S2 right now, but the screen resolution kills me on that, everything is just huge!
im in the same boat like you i loved htc sense and i still love htc sense
but the thing that really put me off from andriod is because the software and hardware limitation
firstly i want to write about my experience with htc hd2 my first htc phone and i loved it because of big screen but the downside was that any rom i installed on it used to drain my battery madly
if i used my phone for a while the battery used to drop like there is no tommorow
and max battery life used to be 2-3 hours but if when i used to leave it on stand by it used to lst 8-9 hours and that was not used and battery used to die so i got so mad with it that i sold it and bought htc senstaion
the thing with sensation was i had more memory higher resoulation and it was capable of recording 1080p at the same time it had a front camera but the bad thing in sesnation is battery life and check my post where my battery lasted 2 hours and i think this is piss taking.
i have a iphone 4 which i borrowed form my cousin for test this week and this phone blew me away because i left wifi on for 1 day and 5 hour while it was on stand by and guess what it only lost 2 percent in the long time where as my senstaion would have died in 7-8 hours
the good thing about iphone was its software and harware work flawless toghether even though i admit when i'm gonna give this back to my cousin i'm gonna say to him its **** because i cant admit its better in hadrware
but software wise its the best phone out there.
bad thing about iphone 4 its heavy like htc senstion and it has very smal screen and i personally hate it this is the only reason i choose htc rather than iphone
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i also did a camera test and iphone was much smmoother and i;m talking about front camera because if i move my camera it laggs bad and does blur where as iphone despite having the same spec camera is much clearer while at the same time it is much better but about the back camera i personally think htc is better and that is my personal choise(i forgot how to write it). in senstaion the front camera is so dark in low light while at the same time iphone is very clear.
personally i think htc and other company should stop brinig phone for a while and rather they should try to perfect the software on our phone because this is really making andriod looking bad
Vipeout said:
HTC seems more busy pushing out new models than refining current ones.
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The way I know HTC, their first ICS build will be full of crap and bugs. But because they will be busy pushing out new phones, we will have to live with their halfdone work.
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In this regard, HTC is no worse (and is better than) other Android handset manufacturers. I was an early adopter with the Samsuck Behold 2, which saw only very limited updates. Every company is pushing new models, either because most consumers are spoiled and always want the latest and greatest, or as a side effect they don't need to support phones beyond 1-2 years because carriers subsidize phones when contracts are renewed.
In general, software rarely gets faster when new versions are released, and I doubt that ICS will perform faster than what we have now unless HTC seriously thins out their Sense UI overlay. I also expect that HTC has a common code base between what we'll get on the Sensation and what future phone releases will use, so I doubt what we get will be any worse than new ICS HTC handsets.
8.7ghz dam bro ur phone must be an oven lol
To those who say they have no battery issues:
Does your battery not stick at 100% longer than it should? It stays at 100% even after 30min of intense use and then sharply drops instead of declining i a linear way. Do you not have different battery level values after restarting the phone? Afaik it is a common problem with the Sensation caused by bad drivers. There is even a thread dedicated to this.
And it can not all be blamed on the higher pixel count. Electopia is a 3d game that measures your fps. There is an option to run it at WVGA resolution (800x480), meaning it is rendered in exactly the same resolution as the SGII. The game runs at aprox. 20 fps slower than on the sgII. Now this is not some synthetic benchmark, this is real world performance where the game simply runs smother on the sammy.
I just checked my roommate's SGII performance within whatsapp. He can scroll through the entire chat history in real time, back and forward with no delay. Mine has VISIBLE lag and doesn't respond as well, it stutters alot when scrolling up the list. Don't tell me its because it has to render more pixels, its a messaging program ffs! This happens with EVERY Rom (With or without Sense).
I am surprised no one shares my view on those issues because it's basically a compilation of often here mentioned issues plaguing the Sensation. And I know HTC made some damn fine phones, but the Sensation just doesn't live up to their past standards.
No I don't feel the need to always have the fastest and best thing around. I was evaluating pros and cons between the Sensation and SG2 for 6 whole weeks before ultimately going for the Sensation. I knew the Samsung had better benchmark results and more power but I was like "I don't need a ****ing racing car, a nice sports car will do it just as well". But I simply cannot put up with sluggish menus/scrolling behaviour. Not in 2011 and in the age of dual core processors. See, if only the Sensation was really snappy with my daily tasks, I couldn't care less for benchmarks.
But folks will always say the same things like "it has more pixels to push" or "mine runs super smooth" when in fact it runs the same way as mine and they just don't mind a bit of choppiness.
I HATE the plastic toy phone feel of the Samsung devices, but damn those phones fly. Probably I'm alone with this, but choppy and sluggish menus and scrolling behaviour gives me eye cancer. And it's something I can't live withon such a premium device.
Please keep the "if you don't like it then sell it" comments to your self, they add nothing to the discussion and you are not telling me anything new.
Well I am considering the Galaxy Nexus now, despite not having the most fancy gpu unit available.
Probably I'm alone with this, but choppy and sluggish menus and scrolling behaviour gives me eye cancer.
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Then you need to go to a hospital, stat. Here's the deal, 99% of people who dislike this phone either return it or sell it, and get something they like. They don't go to a dev forum specifically designed for the phone in question and ***** about it.
Point is, if you don't like it, get something else.
Get the motorola atrix, or even the lg g2x and then tell me this phone is buggy.. hahah, the moto atrix even with CM 7 was more laggy than this phone stock. with more ram etc. camera flys past both phones. sure its not better than the amaze but look at the price differance.
I think ICS will make the Sensation a little bit smoother.
That said, I overall don't really like my Sensation. It was an under-spec'd, half-baked phone from release. I really wish my phone upgrade would have been now, because I would have been all over a real performer like the Galaxy Nexus. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with my Sensation for another year and a half or so, and I doubt I'll be able to make it that long.
Having a phone that performs like a toy is worse than having one that feels like a toy. I didn't buy a damn phone just to touch it. I bought it to use it, and there are tons of phones out there that perform better.
I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Within two months, you will get bored of the touchwiz ui. But one x has sense and if you like it, with a little modifications, and with custom roms, you will never get bored of your phone
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I haven't held the S3 yet so I don't know how it looks/feels in the hand. The OneX feels solid and comfortable to me. I think the OneX with a Sense-less ICS ROM would be super fast and more enjoyable. I'm leaning that way with my decision.
My HTC Sensation with Virtuous Inquisition ROM has become a much better phone
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azsamsancho said:
I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Go for the S3. Bigger development, cm9 from people who actually build from source themselves and i would trust my life in their hands so to speak. Codeworkx and Xplowild could not get any better and really wished they supported the One X but that is not going to happen, more AOSP and AOKP roms for the S3 and you probably get the best kernel developer i know and that Gokhanmoral as well...And the list goes on. One x might be better looking but you have so much more going for the S3 which is supercurio for one releasing his app for it specially with the better sound chip for it and well i can go on..
One X is a great phone with great potential..but with all the replacements i had and with their poor service and Quality Control have left a bad taste in my mouth and will never go for HTC again...Do not get me wrong development for this phone is only just getting started..But if you are a samsung boy and loved the development on the s2 then s3 is the place to be for you..just wished i waited a bit longer
But seriously my best advice to you..Wait a few more weeks. Watch videos and watch comparisons...And then make a judgement on yourself on what you need the phone for. Sense is ten times better than TW no doubt. But like i said take your time and do your research..And if you do go for the One X make sure you get a phone which is build like a gold phone..Make sure it is perfect and solid..Then you will not regret it
Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.
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Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.
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I agree I had a go on the one x saw sense and the shell and was like I want it! Glad I did as I dislike the look of the s3 not that it is ugly or anything hox just appeals to me more.
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I say its better even with Stock Rom
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Then get the one x. I'm very happy with mine no problems.
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The HOX looks far better, the bluey coloured SIII looks very cheap, and to me the proportions look wrong on the front - weird angle curves, and too much bezel at top and bottom.
AMOLED provides less than realistic colours, if its anything like the SII and youre used to a properly calibrated TV/PC Monitor you'll laugh.
Having had a pentile display phone before the One X (Droid 3) no matter what the PPI youre going to notice the Pentile matrix on font and icon edges if you have the screen relatively close to your face, like when you're reading it in bed or something. Minor niggle but it annoyed me. Reading on the One X is like reading a magazine, it looks printed on.
The only positive for me is the bigger battery, but in real world usage i.e. Web Browsing itll only offer you about 40 mins more according to GSM Arena due to the high draw of the AMOLED display on white. Video life is about 4 hours longer, though. Saying that, if you have time to watch a video you'd be in a situation where you could use HTC's small battery bank to see you through it on the one x and have battery left to play with on a flight or long outing (should have a car charger so incar use wouldn't be an issue).
Regarding the above, GSMArena's battery life tests are very unscientific. The One X's display is among the brightest, and far brighter than the SII (double brightness nearly) so if the SIII is the same, the battery life at similar brightness to the One X's default levels would be negligable in texting/browsing/everyday use, again, bar video playback.
There is also the element of standing from the crowd a little - the One X is in my opinion (and many reviewers) the best looking phone to date - It matters to me to enjoy looking at something I use so often, so it helps.
Custom ROMS will come as well, its a major device with global variants so CM9 support will come I'd assume.
As far as build goes, I have sent one back but only because I'm very picky and the screen gap on the left was a tiny bit too much for my liking but I'm pretty sure 75% of the people on the replacement threads have got OCD with the number of replacements theyre having, or they use their phones punishingly. I didnt have flicker after the latest OTA either. The flex is the major issue regarding build, but my Dad's iPhone has the same thing if you press on the edges of the screens, every phone has it.
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azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Im a fairly heavy user and the battery is great for me.
Streaming radio/and mp3 is all done with the companion core for example and with screen off the battery graph is basically flat even whilst streaming over HSPA for a good while.
I can get 4/4hr30 web browsing and if you think about it, you don't need any more than that - with any phone nowadays youre looking at an overnight charge really so it makes no odds whether that number is a bit less or a bit more.
The browser redraw is instantaneous, and looks good - the text fades and fades back as an effect rather than jerking all the text round like opera - you dont notice the time it takes.
Multitasking Fix This may be of great use - it was to me on my Droid 3 and I noticed weird settings posted on here in HTC's default Build.prop that explain IMO the memory Issues people are perceiving.
Multitasking can easily be fixed in build prop. Some of the default HTC settings baffle me. Or use RomToolbox by JRummy
Ive not rooted yet but on my D3 (512mb ram) I used dirty ratio 70% (HOX default is 0%....!) Dirty background 90% (Hox default is 30%) and vfs cache pressure 10. Hox default is 100. This makes android flush the cache less often, saving battery and eliminating stutter, keeps apps in background ram leaving you where you left off and doesn't negatively impact on battery life or degrade performance over time. I've no idea why the HOX's default settings are so aggressive - unless they thought users might get an errant app, leave it running and complain when they dont know why the battery is draining... kill OOM allocating task was also a yes.
On my Droid 3 with the above settings, I could infinitely multitask (VM Heap of 48mb - but on HOX you could easily double that for more tabs in browser etc) and my battery gained a perceived time of about an hour at least - maybe more, due to the apps always remaining open and CPU time not having to be used reopening them and redrawing the past state they were in because theyve been pushed out of RAM.
I researched the above for ages when I had my D3 (even with 512 ram Moto's settings were way less aggressive than HTC's are at default) and made sure they wouldn't cause lag over time, or loss of performance over time - as well as providing optimal battery life.
Finally!
If you're planning on keeping the phone for some time (I can't see much that can improve on this, heck I wouldnt have got rid of my D3 had i not bricked it!) HTC are very good with software updates, the best around on unbranded devices really. They've just listed devices to recieve ICS - and those included some devices that were 18 Months old with a single core processor. This would suggest to me the One X will not only get Jelly Bean, but probably the next iteration (Released end of summer/fall 2013 most likely), should the hardware requirements not change massively (although 1gb RAM and Quad Core looks pretty safe for 18 months IMO).
azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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I myself am coming from a galaxy s. Not sure how much the amoled screen is worse than the s2 on the s1 in comparison. I do know,however, that this super LCD2 screen on my htc one x is a thing that's going to be difficult to leave should I ever have to decide between this phone or a super amoled phone in the future.
Browsing-wise: I think we are all going to end up using google chrome in the long run. With the updates it gets, i believe it's sooner or later going to be the browser everyone's going to replace their original browser with.
I personally use google chrome browser on my phone myself. It's much faster than other IMO. Especially loading time is amazing and super smooth.
Battery is debatable. Personally, I wish i could squeeze an hour more hour out of my phone. On a full use I easily hit the 3 hours mark screen on time(3h 10m~). Probably just like most One X owners. Depending on your phone usage though, it's safe to say that the battery life on the HTC One X on standy by is godlike Seen people go for 4 days.
The highest i have reached was 3 hours 31 minutes. I think i could have even exceeded that by now but i just don't bother anymore and plug the phone in before it depletes.
It gets me through a day with ease plus i don't know what htc is up to. As far as I know this phone still needs optimization(take what i say with a grain of salt on this part). As I have no idea if the battery is going to improve in future or not. Just my gut feeling tells me it is, but a gut feeling is just that, a gut feeling. I wish HTC would at least communicate with us users more. Really kind of disappointing on their part.
Oh well, this is the insight i'm capable of giving.
p.s: i'm not one of those users who had to send his phone in for multiple replacements. So yeah, i can understand the users who do suggest the S3 for alone that reason. Because we all just want a phone that functions and don't want to constantly have it replaced just to replace it again.
Good day!
Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.
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Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.
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Yeah! This is actually true as well. Considering the fact that SG3 has got more support. Or at least that's what I always read and i don't doubt it. Probably a customized rom for the gs3 will be running better than the one x's.
Other negatives for the HOX include quality control with the screen flex and squeeky noises at least thats what I get!
With s-on am currently locked down so am having to wait for the network provider to bring about all the fixes in the updates unless I use custom roms but then I can't change the radio etc due to s-on..... Would be great if the phone was cracked in that sense.
Also the soundchip is not that great, could be better.
Battery is bad for me due to being on older firmware so screen on time is about 2hrs and the battery is dead.....
Currently sent mine back to htc due to hardware issues.....
I would wait to see the SIII however i cant't see samsung moving away from using inferior plastic for the shell. This spoils everything.
Also, the cool software will be ported shortly therefore I can't see a reason for choosing the SIII over the HOX. It's all about feeling in the hand........
Sense is very beautiful! And i like the style of htc phones look like
I think i need to wait till S III is available near me and check it out how it feels. reviewers say it feels better than the HOX due to the curved edges...
Its a matter of choice. Both HTC and samsung stock UIs are horrible in my eyes. The main differentiating factor is the more powerful CPU in the galaxy s3, expandable memory and removable/better battery. Its downsides are the pentile display and cheap look.
Both will come with many custom ROMS so flashing a custom rom holds no advantage for the one X
If your getting the HTC ONE X over the Galaxy S3 get ready for some poor battery life
Don't know what you guys expect with battery life on the one x to be honest, I love my HOX , I can run it with several phone calls and texts, bit of browsing on here, read books daily and usually get a couple days out of the battery, yes, if you hammer it with games like riptide, then be prepared for it to eat battery, but I imagine that will be no different on any quad core phone
Sent from my Flexreaper Powered BEAST !!!
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
1. No
2. 2 days for me
3. Yes
4. No
5. Yes, never tried it
6. Never tried it
1. No, there is about 250MB free on stock from what I remember. The larger issue is HTC's changes to multitasking. I question whether the 1GB of RAM would be enough 2 years from now though.
2. Easily 1 full day of moderate usage.
3. Yes
4. No, not really. It seems to have better coverage than some of the other phones you can buy from TMO. I dropped a call while using WiFi calling (the whole network connection dropped out), but I don't think it is a phone issue. I think TMO needs to work on their WiFi calling software.
5. Yes, 2 or 3 of them... sigh
6. idk
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I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.
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The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.
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The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.
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The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.
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I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.
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I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27052484&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.
Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
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haha
Anyway, moving on:
rakeshchn said:
guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. I have disabled a ton of apps, which are not necessary and have no problems with multi-tasking, however, when switching from a game or some demanding app back to the browser, tabs do reload
2. There are plenty of threads on battery life here and plenty of screenshots of my usage for my review of the 1S (link in sig) and throughout that thread, to sum it up, amazing the best there is
3. Very well, GPS locks on very quick for me (UK, N.I.), never properly used navigation but it does seem to work fine when I have quickly tried it out, if you aren't satisfied you can get tom tom or some other navigation app
4. As shown in that post above of mine linked by big_den, none whatsoever
5. Can't comment on t-mobile version but the international version we have a FM radio and it only works when headphones are plugged in
6. You can see my mini review of a standard generic MHL adapter below. It appears though that the refresh rate is a bug, as it only has a 24Hz refresh rate, however, a guy here modded a kernel so that the resolution is dropped to 720P and 60Hz refresh rate iirc.
Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- better and bigger screen
- more storage
- NFC
- better community for custom ROMs etc.
- much better 1080P recording
Go for the one S if you want this stuff:
- far better out of the box experience, sense is much nicer to use and has great apps e.g. the dialer, gallery, calendar, camera etc. which can't be matched by 3rd party apps
- better battery life
- far better looks/design and build/perceived quality
- better camera for photos and features overall
In the real world, performance is more or less the same really.
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Just realised you were talking about the USA versions, in that case the GPU and CPU is the same as the S, adreno 225 and S4
However, as I mentioned above the S whips the GS 3 that has the S4 etc. in the majority of stuff, so sense appears to be far better optimized than touchwiz regarding that.
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Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- far better GPU
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All US GS3 versions use the S4 MSM8960 which has the same GPU as the One S has (Adreno 225). In fact, graphics performance should be better on the One S as it's driving a smaller screen.
And to answer the OP:
1) Not really. Browser does reload from time to time but I've never had Sense reloads like I did on the Sensation.
2) Good in my experience - should be at least a day if not more.
3) Yes.
4) Not in my experience.
5) Yes. Worked with my usual headphones as well as old iPod ones.
6) Never tried it.
Yeah, I just noticed that he meant the USA versions and always keep forgetting about these mobiles having different hardware in different parts of the world
And yup, the one S (even the XL, which has the same res.) whips the GS 3 s4 version.......
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...axy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants
So just shows that sense must be better optimized than touchwiz overall here.
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.
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Not quite sure how that was having my ass handed to me. The guy said he doesn't use the FFC, with faceunlock a good front facing camera is key. I also take a ton of pics with my friends that way, and all this coming from a n00b mean ****e you toothless bloke.
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Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
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Well I also pointed out the pentile display which is gross, and the signal issue which there is tons of threads about. The One S and GS3 are similar to how the Sensation & GS2 T989 were related. Same processor, but the Sensation suffered from signal issues, lag and a poor FFC. Sense, whether you like it or not takes a lot of resources. FACT. The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better and I have no doubt the GS3 is the same way this time around. I have owned all said devices, so this is not speculation or some bloggers paid opinion. The fact that you said US HTC One S users will have a superior processor.......umm how if it's the exact same one within the GS3?, 2gb of RAM sounds superior to me. Multitasking is a pain on the One S (one again, I have owned it) it can't even switch back to a webpage without having to reload. The One S may perform marginally better on an outdated & pixelated screen with crippled expansion abilities. Take that to the bank fanboys. Fail harder next time please
It all comes down to preference.
HTC always makes gorgeous exteriors that usually cause signal issues & they take forever to release source (Has is been yet?) Better build quality sure, but at the cost of performance?
Sense is super intensive on RAM and CPU and runs super deep into the android framework.
Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace. Signal has never been an issue with me on a Galaxy phone because of this design. Samsung released source code for the GS3 before the phone was officially released. CYANOGEN himself works for Samsung into helping them make the most cutting edge, efficient, and powerful coding for software.
I also have used the face camera unlock and have had no problems with it whatsoever Doesn't work in pitch black obviously but every time I unlock the device, the screen is also unlocked straight away. Take the ugly mask off
In your opinion the display is gross, not my opinion and same for many others, have shown everyone of my friends and family the display and they have been very impressed with it, one of the first things that they comment on.
Again, just because there are ton of threads where people are stating an issue doesn't mean that it applies to everyone.......... Many people only voice there opinions when something goes wrong and never any positives. And we only make up a very small % of owners for the S on this forum.
Again, you seem to be ignoring the screenshots in my post that I addressed these issues again, no problems with resources regarding RAM etc. as I have shown with the task manager. And if it really was hogging resources then please explain why the battery life is so great (for the S and XL) and outmatches the GS 3 S4 version despite the GS 3 having the bigger battery?????? So it musn't be FACT
Again what a strange observation you make, because I have had the GS 2 on stock ICS right beside my stock S and the performance was far better in everything, everything was just more instant and even my friend who owns the GS 2 said the exact same and the majority of people who have upgraded from the GS 2 to the S.
go and try loading a page full of gifs and see what comes out on top between the S, GS 2 and note.
Wrong again, people who have the S and GS 3 have said that both are just the same overall, the GS 3 is slightly smoother but in terms of raw speed, more or less the same. I also have had the 2 side by side and they are the same pretty much, GS 3 smoother but not by much.
Likewise! (not owned but plenty of time with the top end devices) and also these opinions are coming from other forums and these guys have owned every device there is and to just show good the S is, this one guy usually upgrades his mobile to the latest and greatest and sells the old one to fund it, but guess what, he didn't, he kept both the S and GS 3 because he loves the S sooo much as well, he didn't want to get rid of it and the only reason he is sticking with the GS 3 is due to storage, shocker!
Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
And once again, in the benchmarks according to anandtech the one S is far superior to the GS 3 S4 version. "Sense not as well optimized and hogs resources"...........lol
Tell me where 2GB of RAM will be useful?
Sir, I think everyone knows who has failed here particularly after this, "The One S is ****e m8" and it most certainly isn't me or anyone else in this thread, but YOU, so back to the note/GS 3 threads where you belong
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I wonder why all the review sites particularly gsmarena who are quite harsh on everything apart from the flagship devices spoke so highly of the S
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
You obviously didn't look at the anandtechs review as usual
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Again no issues with signal here for me.
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
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"toothless bloke" bahahahahaha, are you like 12 or something?
And it is quite clear that you are the noob!
Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.
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Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
You keep comparing the One S to phones that carry the S3 processor, why ?
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I'm an Android Fanboy, you got me there. I had had all HTC devices until the GS2 T989 (so from 2008 to October 2011)
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
I think it's great when people don't experience those issues that plague a device.
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
Great the device has been out and devs were flatout pissed about HTCs GPL compliance
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
Once again this is relative and I never mentioned battery life as a factor. When I had my One S I wasn't impressed compared to my T989. Yes the One S should get better battery life as the processor is optimized for it
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Never said the GS3 was lighter or thinner m8
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Once again they do use polycarbonate, maybe you should look up what that actually is. Some people like shiny things
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
Why are you on a developers site then?
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You also mentioned the One S can load a pageful of .gifs faster than a Note or GS2, big surprise there bro. That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari, of course the One S beats those at a totally useless test. You are comparing last years technology to one that is cutting edge. Of course the benchmarks are gonna be higher for the One S, it's running a smaller & lower rez screen. If were to run the same hardware on a 2" screen I would dust the One S by double. Kudos on the astonishing, non pertinent info which showcases your lack of how technology actually works. Kudos.
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Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.
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Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.
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Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.
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I'm not trashing anything dude, these are simple facts that people may be overlooking. Someone asked a legitimate question and I am answering it with real world experience. I loved the One S to be honest, great camera, great form factory and benches that would make the android horsepower gurus drool.
Believe me I was sold, I actually bought it I liked it so much. I'm only providing a balanced view of things, and while my attitude may seem crude, the facts are not. This is a forum where people who sometimes have no insight of these products look to users/owners for advice. I am trying to provide that from an actual, non biased place. Sorry if it seems otherwise, sincerely.
I gave up my One S because it didn't seem like much of an upgrade. I am one of the dudes that has his phone filled with .FLACs, and full movies for my 3 year old daughter. I am what I would consider a power user and most times need an extra battery to get me thru the day. I hate being plugged in and hate streaming from a cloud because most of the time it reduces the quality of music, which defeats my extensive .FLAC library. That, and the fact that I travel to places in my state where coverage isn't so great. Was it a bad experience, no. I love HTC, this particular device I had to let go because it didn't fit my lifestyle, that's it.
I am not just comparing the phone to the phones that have the S3 chip.......I am comparing it to every other phone there is and the S4 is superior to every CPU even the quad in the GS 3 and X, not just for raw speed per core but also heat and power efficiency as well.
No you didn't but you keep saying about sense being a huge resource hog, however, how can it be if the one S and XL get great battery life if RAM and CPU is being hogged? Just like an app, which doesn't close when required and will hog resources and drain battery life. Granted the S4 helps a lot but even still if resources are being hogged then the battery life wouldn't be as good, also if sense was such a huge hog then the battery life would be nowhere as good and the one S is better than the GS 3 S4 version for battery life, and you said that touchwiz is far lighter and better optimized than sense, once again why would the battery life be worse on the GS 3 and better on the S etc.? (and yes I know the screen is bigger and higher res. on the GS 3 but the bigger battery makes up for that and the XL is still better anyway.
Also the hardware is crap/pointless if the software/drivers aren't optimized for it.
You said lighter
"Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace."
Yes it is polycarbonate, however, they ruin the true feel/look of it by having that hyperglaze/glossy finish to it.
This site isn't solely for discussion of ROM's, tweaks etc. but also discussion of apps, general stuff like accessories and useful info. on certain stuff.
Well, yes I used that comparison because you said this:
"The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better"
Not really a useless test, well for me anyway, as I am a heavy web browser and a random gif thread is one of the many threads that I visit daily, so would like them to be smooth rather than a slideshow.
I didn't compare just the S and GS 3, but also the XL, which does have the same res. as the GS 3.
Again, I think you will find that everything is connected and thus all of my post has perfectly suited your points. It isn't just a simple oh processor better therefore that is better etc.
Right you go and say that in your last post and then you say this at the beginning of the thread:
"The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all."
Also I am not bias to the S at all, I have stated that there are faults/weak areas many times and in my review of the S as well:
Cons:
No NFC
No SD card slot and limited internal storage
Non-removable battery
Uses a pentile matrix instead of RGB
Notification LED isn't great
However, most of those things don't bother me too much, if at all now, the only thing that really bothers me is the NLED.
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Not only that but if you are wanting to give people advice on the S since you have owned it, then why didn't you answer the OP questions instead of just saying that one line, which isn't true as you just stated in your last post there pretty much and he didn't ask about the front camera at all.
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Also considering you stated there that you put flacs and films etc. on your mobiles, surely you should have known that was going to be an issue with the S in the first place then???
rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. Yes. It's a major issue with One X as well. I usually do a lot of browsing and have at least 3 tabs open and every time I switch to any other app (eg. Messaging) and go back to browser, it just reloads. This is ridiculous because sometimes I am typing something on the webpage before switching and I lose everything. Even xda app reloads after switching to messaging. I am thinking of getting GSIII because of this issue. I know I can root and get a custom Rom to make this work but again this is an expensive phone and such a trivial feature of android should work out of the box!
2. 1 day with gmail, 2 other personal emails, gvoice and a lot of browsing.
3. Yes
4. Yes. It's ironic that I never had any dropped calls with my older phones Amaze, MT4GS.
5. Never tried
6. Never tried. Sorry.
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I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. I suffer from Wifi error after a system upgrade and now auto-reset after replacing a new one from Costco. But other things work pretty fine
2.less than 1 day
3.Yes, work quite well. But it eats a lot of battery
4.Sometimes drop calls.Also there are some 4G signal issues while using it indoor. But not as worst as Sensation 4G
5. Yes, there are FM tuner.
6. MHL work quite fine. I tested it on a 24" no-speaker-moniter. So don't know how it sounds like.
I suggest that you should wait for a GSIII instead, it will be a lot more better than One S. Replacable battery, upgradable memory(support up to 64 GB micro-SD card) , large battery(that's 2100mAh Vs. 1650mAh HTC One S), and also 2GB of ram(that's HTC One S 's double!!). But it will use Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor instead of quad-core, which means same as HTC One S. The only good thing about HTC One S is good camera, the brilliant HTC Sense 4.0, beats audio, extremly thin and light weight.
PS: If my One S suffer from annoying auto-restarting, can I just return the phone to Costco and grab a GS III??
One S is the best bang for your buck right now in the US. Although i wonder if we are gonna get 4.1 quickly since it looks like a minor upgrade.
Hey everyone, first off I want to apologize for creating a topic like this. I have been reading up on both phones through website, reviews and topics here on XDA. I just cant seem to make up my mind.
The one X has no removable battery when the battery is 1800Mah which is pathetic considering I am running a 1900Mah in my outdated HTC Sensation. This is a big downside to me; the S3 has a 2100Mah battery which is removable which is a big plus. I was looking at both battery life threads for the international versions and both seem good though. Could you guys possibly comment on this?
The cpu and gpu's of both phones are also interesting. The Exynos seems better then the Tegra 3 and coming from a S3 powered Sensation I do not want another laggy phone.. Please comment on this, possibly a link to another topic if it was made before.
Memory is not a big issue for me, 32gb is plenty.
I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
Last thing is development; I love flashing new Roms and have been spoiled with the Sensations awesome developers. Does the international One X have the great support the Sensation has?
Thanks a ton guys!
Tegra is more than cape able
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y will be the battery life be same. have you seen the battery stats thread. battery life is worse. thats the only thing that is holding me back to buy the 1x. tegra 3 consumes more battery than exynos. my friend is using 1x. he said that he can hardly use his phone because of this bad battery life. i am waiting for the OTA. hope it improves the battery life. if so then i will instantly buy the HOX
Come one One X board, Bump!
I just got the S III. I compared it to the One S (different than the One X I know) and was disappointed in the HTC. Not having a memoir card slot was a deal breaker.
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y will be the battery life be same. have you seen the battery stats thread. battery life is worse. thats the only thing that is holding me back to buy the 1x. tegra 3 consumes more battery than exynos. my friend is using 1x. he said that he can hardly use his phone because of this bad battery life. i am waiting for the OTA. hope it improves the battery life. if so then i will instantly buy the HOX
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When using the phone the majority of power is used on the screen, so I can't see how any update can make the screen use less power unless it turns it down to such a low brightness it can hardly be seen, and you can do that yourself without waiting for new software. Waiting for an OTA that is suddenly going to make the battery last a lot longer is going to be a long wait. Yes it might get tweaked to give a few more minutes here or there, or contain fixed software bugs that was causing the phone to draw too much power in standby, but it can only do so much.
You can get attachable battery backs for the HTC One X now which will greatly extend the runtime, but it will make the phone physically larger.
If you can't live with the HTC One X battery runtime, stop contemplating it and get the S3. If there is something you don't like about the S3 which makes you favour the HTC One X, then sometimes you have to have accept one limitation over the over and just make a decision.
Regards
Phil
I have had the S3 for a week and love the phone. However I am switching back to my international one x. The biggest reason for me is connectivity and I miss the screen on the one x. The screen on the S3 is nice, but when you put it side by side with the one x the one x just pops. Samsung incorporated a lot of very nice software customization however the one x feels a bit more refined. Both are dynamite phones, I do find that the one x drops calls much less than my S3 which has become very frustrating to me.
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If you are looking for a phone that is completely lag free out of the box go for the s3.
IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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Joshua3109 said:
Hey everyone, first off I want to apologize for creating a topic like this. I have been reading up on both phones through website, reviews and topics here on XDA. I just cant seem to make up my mind.
The one X has no removable battery when the battery is 1800Mah which is pathetic considering I am running a 1900Mah in my outdated HTC Sensation. This is a big downside to me; the S3 has a 2100Mah battery which is removable which is a big plus. I was looking at both battery life threads for the international versions and both seem good though. Could you guys possibly comment on this?
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Battery depends on how to use it. Since you're going to unlock the phone there are lot of stuff you can do to improve the battery life. I can easily get 3.5 to 4 hours of screen time and last more than a day. The standby time of One X is great.
The cpu and gpu's of both phones are also interesting. The Exynos seems better then the Tegra 3 and coming from a S3 powered Sensation I do not want another laggy phone.. Please comment on this, possibly a link to another topic if it was made before.
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Now we have achieved GPU overclock so gaming performance will improve much more than before. I'm a minimalistic lover so lesser widgets and apps never had any lags. When comparing with the leaked firmware the UI is butter smooth and we have a lot of tweaks to make it even better.
Memory is not a big issue for me, 32gb is plenty.
I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
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It again depends on how you use it. We have tweaked the auto brightness values to even lesser to improve the battery so Yes it's better.
[/QUOTE]Last thing is development; I love flashing new Roms and have been spoiled with the Sensations awesome developers. Does the international One X have the great support the Sensation has?
Thanks a ton guys![/QUOTE]
We are atleast 7 to 8 custom ROM's, 3 different variants of CM9 and AOKP, then MIUI as already have a early port of JB. So I can proudly we have best set of developers here :good:
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IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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Dude what's up with the caps ... Caps mean your yelling at the OP
Edit: multi quote didn't work out that well.
Good points made, I'd like to add that battery life of both phones is nearly the same, sIII has an edge by a margin. Danes goes for benchmarks.
I was chatting with this friend of mine who just got an SIII, he was whining about the battery life after having his brightness at lowest and sync off.
Developer support is great like ShyamSasi mentioned.
Choose after keeping in mind what's more important to you
1)Design
2)removable battery
3)expandable memory
4)sense vs touchwiz
5)tegra powered games
6)amoled vs slcd2?
hapticc said:
IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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What's with the caps lock?
Body like hot curvy babes xD lol!
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Go into a store with both the S3 and the one x and try them. I prefer the one x personally because it looks nicer, the screen is far better and in my opinion htc sense > touchwiz. But you might think differently so id recommend trying them out.
Got to play with a white GSIII alongside a white HOX yesterday (mine is grey).
Here are my two cents:
Looks
Visually, there's just no comparison between the two. On comparing the two devices side by side, HOX smokes SIII. Even all my friends who were with me thought the same. HOX looks infinitely better than GSIII.
Performance and Processors
Performance wise, the Exynos on the GSIII is a tad faster than the Tegra3 on the HOX, but honestly with such a high processing power, the differences in performance will be negligible, if at all visible.
One thing worth considering here is that with Tegra3, you get the advantage of a lot of great games that are optimized for it and offer a much better visual experience than on other processors.
Display
Now the display. Both are very high resolution, but the one on the SIII is a pentile one and is AMOLED. Now I know that the ppi on both are extremely high, but to the eyes of a discerning user, the difference in sharpness is visible. The display on the HOX looks sharper.
Some people prefer amoled, others prefer LCD. Personally, I find the colors to be a little too "punchy" on AMOLEDs. But you may have a different preference. Try playing with it before making a decision.
Now to the most important part and the reason most of us are here:
Custom ROMs
S-OFF hasn't yet been achieved by the HOX community, and that makes flashing custom ROMs a tad more tedious. Flashing custom ROMs on SAMMY devices is generally more hassle free.
Quality wise, the HOX community has some truly amazing devs and the ROM scene is very exciting.
User Experience
In the end, both of these are amazing devices. Play with both of them and decide which one you like better. TouchWiz vs. Sense is another very subjective topic and you'll have to judge on your own. But if you're planning on running AOSP, they don't really make a difference.
Camera
Haven't tested the camera on the GSIII, but I'm sure it's amazing. But so is the one on HOX. I think you could pick either one of them without really looking into this. If you're looking for serious photography however, I'd suggest you look for a good DSLR instead.
Guys thanks so much for the awesome replies! No S-off, oh no I don't like that; the S3 has S-off I'm assuming?
I think I am leaning towards the S3 though; the removable battery is making the difference for me. Also, coming from a laggy Sensation I want all the processing power I can get to avoid any lag in the future; I hate lag!
Both phones have a quad core processors. Idk why anyone even says theres possible lag on quad core phones. The Samsung has an amoled screen which means any white pictures or anything white that pops up drains battery amazingly faster. Sense 4 is rock solid and just flows good. Touchwiz is all over the place with cool features that you'll probably forget you have eventually. I feel like the gs3 to the gs2 is like the iphone4s to the 4. Its just a better looking gs2 with more **** on there., but unorganized. The galaxy s 4 will definitely be amazing because Samsung vowed to work on their software more than anything.
Battery wise, the gs3 seems like it takes up more resources than the one x because the u.s version has an extra gig of ram. My friends gs3 from att has **** battery life compared to my one x variant.
HTC is also obviously the underdog in phone sales so it would make sense that they would put more effort in building a high quality phone, which they clearly did. Samsung knows there on top so they overly marketed their phone everywhere and now its really popular, still top notch, but it was released before it was perfected.
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I came from a i9100. I sold it before the i9300 came out so I could get more for it. I got a One X but planned on selling it once the SGS3 was released. I used a S4 SGS3 in Japan for two days and decided to keep the One X. There are 162 pages of debate on the SGS3 forum discussing both phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652250
Here's why I kept the One X vs. getting a SGS3 as posted in that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27663514&postcount=1525
Keep in mind that the first 2/3's of that comparison thread was written before the SGS3 came out when people were comparing a utopian vision vs. the One X which had been out for a few months. Things have changed because the SGS3 has its share of issues. Most center on the display (defects, dimness), available RAM (the S-Crap reserves a large amount of memory), battery drain (wakelock issues), fragility (the edge-to-edge glass panel breaks easily), and QC (bezels cracked, hyperglaze defects, and the physical home button being recessed instead of raised).
At least to me, the One X's most outstanding feature is its display. I wasn't impressed with the SGS3's; especailly side-by-side. Displaymate is a professional display testing and evaluation company. They wrote up a review of the SGS3's display. It's not too flattering.
http://www.displaymate.com/OLED_Galaxy_S123_ShootOut_1.htm
The One X was rushed to market by HTC, probably to get there ahead of Samsung and the SGS3. There were build issues, s/w and driver bugs, and some h/w problems. The launch didn't go exceptionally well. Some issues still exist but the chatter's died down considerably so you can assume things have improved as more phones have been built.
If you look at the way the One X is put together, the "phone" is a single unit and slides in to the single-piece polycarbonate body. Tolerances are pretty tight and probably difficult to achieve in mass assembly. The biggest issue is a Wi-Fi fault created when the connectors on the body aren't correctly aligned with the antennas on the shell during assembly. The connectors use dynamic tension so compressing the back of the phone can also affect Wi-Fi performance. Based on a rough tally, 200-400 owners on the forum are affected against a total of about 5K. The "fix" put in place by HTC are spacers to keep the back from being compressed. Where the connectors are isn't an area likely to be compressed (unless someone intentionally compresses it) and the fix is more of a safeguard. The design itself hasn't been changed and the majority of phones aren't affected. I'm sure HTC's adjusted the assembly process either through better training or new methods of getting the phone body in to the shell. HTC phones have their build month identified in their serial number. The "3" in XX23 means March and so on. I have a early-build HT23 and it's been pretty much flawless in every way so not all early-build phones had problems. A poll that was run with 1K people voting where the question was asked “is your One X perfect?”, 70% said yes. As in anything mass produced, later versions tend to have better tolerances through tuning of the build process over time.
There's been a leak of a pretty substantial update to the One X that's due out soon. It moves the phone to 4.0.4, improves battery life, performance and benchmarks, enhances the browser, and addresses a lot of little issues that bugged people. Read that thread and it'll give you an idea of what to expect.
Keep in mind that if you intend to root your phone you'll be completely giving up your warranty on the One X where Samsung's still pretty liberal. More people need to take that in to consideration before they buy the One X.
Overall, I'm happy and there's no phone out there right now I'd rather have. Friends I've recommended the phone to are happy also. Good luck with your decision.
@Op, did you duplicate the same thread in S III forum because that's not allowed neither by forum rules but
the most fair thing don't you think? Otherwise you should have used general section.
I'm a pain I know but reading the forum rules or use your common sense is probably a pain too.
Another 'SPOON FEED' thread, aargh !!!
Look how many threads about the same subject exist, '2 sec using the >>> SEARCH BUTTON'
@Moderators,
Thanks for moving thread. :good:
Sorry for caps guys i didnt knew it meant that way
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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Roundtableprez said:
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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What's so amazing about this phone?
louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
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Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
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Fastest android mobile currently
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........
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I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
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I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
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Terminator19 said:
And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.
avetny said:
? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
matt310 said:
Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Wow! Terminator 1 - troll 0 :good:
Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.
louis.b said:
Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.
I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.