Hi guys, just a crazy idea.
I loaded my old XDA II with the WM2005 ROM that is floating around in the XDA forum.
First of all I can confirm all the bugs and problems people face with this obvious BETA build of WM2005 on the XDA II, but…
I found the improved MS Bluetooth stack quite interesting.
So here’s an idea:
Would it be possible to extract all WM2005 BT parts (files and registry entries) form the XDA II and place them onto the Magician.
Obviously the XDA II is using a different BT chip, as the Magician, but I found in the registry of the XDA II
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\HCI
the bthcsr.dll
and in the Magician registry
the bthusb.dll instead.
And we know from the exercise with the Bluesoil stack that the Magician uses some kind of USB BT chip.
So I believe these are the driver dll’s for the different BT chips, so by keeping the bthusb.dll on the Magician the WM2005 stack may accepts it.
So here’s the problem:
I managed to export all WM2005 BT registry entries I found, but I got stuck by copying the bt*.* files (dll, etc.) of the XDA II, as they are obviously in the ROM and Resco File Explores can’t copy them.
Even if we manage to get the files, I believe we face the same problem how to override and load them into the Magician.
Maybe by copying them into a different path then \Windows, a directory in the RAM and set the pointers in the registry to this location.
I know it’s probably a hopeless project, but maybe some of you are mad enough and have some ideas and ways of doing it ;-)
I’m happy to help with everything, getting the stuff of my WM2005 XDA II, so let me know if you have some ideas.
Torsten
Can you tell us please, if there is any new features in BT stack? Any voice dial support?
BT profiles I found in WM2005
Hi, had a quick look through the WM2005 registry and found the following BT profiles:
- Serial Port
- Dial Up Networking
- Headset
- Hands Free
- Input Device (probably Keyboard etc.)
- Active Sync
YES!!! I wish we could!
:idea: :idea: :idea:
Lets see a cab file include the reg and the dll files with the new features 8)
torklemm,
can u dump the rom and upload it to xda ftp?!
Ecactly my problem, never did that 'dump rom' excercise, and I'm not to deep into that Hex code hacking to do it myself, so if anyone else can get us a dump of that WM2005 Rom so that we can try to integrate the required dll files and registry entries into the Magician, that would help.
Ahmmm
guys...
why dont u try the bluetooth stack provided by widcomm instead... it has more features than the 2005 microsoft stack as well, u'll save hell a lot of time and energy extracting only the blutooth stack from the package and am using the widcomm stack currently... it works like a charm... though mine is a himalaya but i've upgraded to win2003se
ROM Version : 2.06,00WWE
Radio Version :1.14.00
ExtROM Version : 2.06.00a
See if u like it... u'll find the widcomm stack on this forum itself, in the Himalaya Upgrading section... but this stack doesnt work with the radio and rom version that himalaya provides... i actually upgraded to the new OS version mainly for the widcomm stack and ofcourse why would i mind a landscape view
adios
always
mOrph
mi amigo
I have tried installing the latest widcomm drivers... well not just the latest one.. all of them.. but it always gives an error about the lack of memory even tho there are lots of memory to spear.... so no one till now could figure out how to make it work on the imate jam...
So I was trying to get PocketGBA to work on my Windows Mobile 6.1 phone.
The CAB wouldn't install at all (I probably should have taken that as a hint) and Direct Installation always crashes. From what I can gather from the debug file, it is trying to allocate memory but failing every time. Finally, it just gives up.
Is there anyway to make it work or did it only run on WM5 and doesn't work on WM6?
If it is hopeless, then what other alternatives do I have?
Thank you for your time.
edit: I think...I figured it out...and it's because...I'm an idiot. I'm guessing I have a Windows Mobile 6.1 Smartphone...
Doh.
Doesn't seem like many options for Smartphones.
Hello to everyone.
I starting cooking by myself and I need to summarize some knowledge, which I got all over xda forums. Now I know, how to dump/convert/add/remove, etc., but only within one device type. That leads to my question. How is actually made upgrade of OS between different devices? For example (it is meant in general) I have Vox device with WM6.0. Then I dump MS smartphone emulator image with WM 6.1. What is actually needed to add to 6.1 dumped ROM to make it working with Vox device?
I am guessing some drivers or something like this (maybe SYS?), but I know nothing about this so maybe some of you can point me to some directions.
Thanks for all your advices.
3 questions really...
I'm trying to get the apple wireless keyboard to work on my Toshiba G810 runnning WM6.5, without installing teksoft blueinput. Many cases have been successful in the past but seemingly only on WM6.0. WM6.1 and 6.5 somehow doesn't work.
I'm wondering if, for me, it's because of my particular bluetooth stack. It does have built-in HID, but without teksoft blueinput it doesn't work (which makes me wonder what is missing in the WM6.1-6.5 stack that blueinput adds, but is also present in WM6.0)
Question 1: how do I find out what type of stack I have
Question 2: How does one go about porting a stack from one device to another. Is it as simple as dumping the rom, replacing the files, then re-building the rom? If so then I already know how to dump and re-build so all I need are the files. I suspect there's more work than that though.
Question 3: Can one install the WM6.0 stack onto the 6.1-6.5 ROMs? It seems that the 6.0 stack has all the functionalities of 6.1-6.5 and also works better for my purposes.
haven't seen any htc devices which used other bluetooth stacks then ms's default one since wm5 came out
if the interface don't look different it's ms stack
Hello,
did anyone successfully install a different bluetooth stack on a cotulla rom ?
i tried bluesoleil (but i only have a pretty old version). i also tried the toshiba stack (also pretty old version, build for 2003).
both work fine on 2003SE - but none of them work on cotulla rom.
anyone successfully did this ? or what about widcomm/broadcom ? what's so special about the magician bluetooth - i've never seen a widcomm version for magician - but for almost every other HTC device.
(i need a better stack than MS - since MS does not support BT LAN access, neither PAN (client))
In reality it's not easy to change BT Stack on Windows Mobile device...
Now my roms are using MS BT Stack...
I have some research and maybe some future versions will have BroadComm stack...but not sure...
Hello Cotulla,
nice to see you're answering about the bluetooth issue ;-)
broadcomm/widcomm stack would be great off course!
... in the meanwhile: as far i know, no broadcomm exists for magician - not even for the old ROMs - i never understood why (different BT hardware i guess ?).
but
- toshiba and
- bluesoleil exists for the old ROMs
they work - if you disable the microsoft drivers (cause it's not possible that both drivers use the same hardware - i guess).
bluesoleil: comes with a tool to disable the MS stack.
toshiba: you have to do it manually by taking off bticon.dll from HKLM/services.
so i have a question:
"taking off bticon.dll" from HKLM/services" is for 2003SE -> what is to do in WM6 to disable the MS-stack ?
maybe the toshiba/bluesoleil would even work ? did anybody tried before ?
or is this bull**** ? i heard of different "driver-models" between CE 3/4 and CE 5 - so is it even possible to use drivers from CE 3/4 on CE 5 ? i don't know! but i'm sure, you know ! ;-)
thank you cotulla for your great work! i'm wondering how you managed to get that much knowledge about this device! great!