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The guy selling these batteries messed up my order. He is working quickly to make it right. I just wanted to share what was going on with everyone.
His sales name on E-bay is "Moretalktime". He has all positive reviews but when I went to order I noticed he had identical ad postings for a long life battery (Yoobao) but with different prices. I checked both meticulously and even had a family member double check. They both were claiming to be YooBao 2800 Mah. So naturally I ordered the cheaper one. Once I got the battery I knew right away that it wasn't YooBao. It was black, had a generic label on it, and rated at 3000 Mah. I even double checked the ad on e-bay and I wasn't crazy. It read, This YooBao Battery..... and in the middle of the text claimed the rating to be 2800 Mah battery life.
I shot Kevin an email and he was really quick in responding to my issue. He said he would pay return shipping and swap it out for the Yoobao once he got the generic returned. Apparently the ads got mixed up or something. He gave me the option to condition the battery, try it out and see what I thought; if I didn't like it I could swap it out and return it for the Yoobao.
I figured I would try it since I already had this battery in-hand. I quickly ran into an issue. While draining the charge that the generic battery came with, I noticed the screen kept flickering Rainbow-like horizontal banding. It only would occur when I had the screen brightness up from 80% - 100% and when a large majority of the screen was pure white. like the market loading screen or the facebook app, even dolphin HD in Full screen mode on a website like Google. It freaked me out because I didn't want anything to happen to my device. I tried with the OEM battery and couldn't replicate the issue. I also figured out it only occurs when the screen brightness is up past 80% and gets really bad when maxed out at 100%
Does this phenomenon occur with the YooBao's too? If so I doubt its an issue that will effect the device, but either way I would rather take my chances with a battery that has a reputation versus a generic no name so I sent it back to the guy for the YooBao.
Sounds like a defective battery. I dont have the Yoobao but I can assure you that it doesn't cause screen flicker. I have the 3500mah generic battery, which probably is the exact same battery you got, and I do not have this issue. These generic batteries of the "extended" variety are pretty much all the same, just with a different wrapper on them with different mah ratings. Its just a theory of mine since I only have the 3500mah one, but since they are all the same size its pretty well founded. The generic 3500mah or 3000mah are probably both truly 2800mah.
muyoso said:
Sounds like a defective battery. I dont have the Yoobao but I can assure you that it doesn't cause screen flicker. I have the 3500mah generic battery, which probably is the exact same battery you got, and I do not have this issue. These generic batteries of the "extended" variety are pretty much all the same, just with a different wrapper on them with different mah ratings. Its just a theory of mine since I only have the 3500mah one, but since they are all the same size its pretty well founded. The generic 3500mah or 3000mah are probably both truly 2800mah.
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Thanks for replying. Yeah I figured it was the same. Its already back in texas waiting to be swapped for a YooBao so all is well.
My screen did that exact same thing with the stock battery. It happened when the phone was charging and I had a lot of apps running.
my screen does that with the stock battery too. i only get the rainbowie flickering when im 100 percent bright(all the time) and under 20 percent battery. i acually see this almost every day.
Well I got my Yoobao on Monday. I just finished draining it from 100% so day one of the conditioning is over. Its was a champ all day. Brightness set up to 100% from 5am. I made it to 7pm with heavy usage. lots of internet browsing, videos and gaming. All I want is to be able to reliably get through an entire day without having to consider putting my phone in airplane mode in low signal areas, turn down screen brightness and account sync times, etc.....
Yoobao = no problems with rainbow phenomena
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my screen does that with the stock battery too. i only get the rainbowie flickering when im 100 percent bright(all the time) and under 20 percent battery. i acually see this almost every day.
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I didn't pay attention to the percentage. It may have been under 20 percent. It also would have explained why I couldn't replicate the issue on my OEM battery. However I finished "day-one" of my conditioning for my Yoobao battery and even the back ten percent didn't have the rainbow issue.
In regards to having a lot of apps running to replicate the problem. I rebooted my phone just to see if it was a software issue or maybe even some background processes causing the problem. With the generic 3500Mah I had reliable rainbowing issue between 80-100% screen brightness without any apps running in the background. So long as the app background on screen was nearly pure white, I had rainbowing. On my OEM I couldn't replicate it, but it was fully charged. I will, however, try to manifest the problem when I get the OEM battery below 20% and then report back.
Hi guys. I figured I would quit lurking and start posting here once in awhile
Full disclosure I am also a seller on ebay and I'm not hard to find by my user name but you are somewhat correct the 3000 mah and the 3500 mah are the exact same battery. I contacted my manufacturer about the 3500's the start popping up on ebay a few months ago and they told me they were the same with a different sticker.
The sad thing is those of us that are trying to be honest will eventually have to switch and start selling the fake sticker batteries too because 90% of the buyers this we have an inferior product
I'm glad you were able to get your Yoobao order straightened out. He appears to be another great seller just not sure how he keeps his account open charging $7 shipping on a 3oz battery but it all averages out. Yoobao is an EXCELLENT company and product!
I'll try to start posting more my "real job" is working in Product Management for Sony Ericsson here in Atlanta.
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Hi guys. I figured I would quit lurking and start posting here once in awhile
Full disclosure I am also a seller on ebay and I'm not hard to find by my user name but you are somewhat correct the 3000 mah and the 3500 mah are the exact same battery. I contacted my manufacturer about the 3500's the start popping up on ebay a few months ago and they told me they were the same with a different sticker.
The sad thing is those of us that are trying to be honest will eventually have to switch and start selling the fake sticker batteries too because 90% of the buyers this we have an inferior product
I'm glad you were able to get your Yoobao order straightened out. He appears to be another great seller just not sure how he keeps his account open charging $7 shipping on a 3oz battery but it all averages out. Yoobao is an EXCELLENT company and product!
I'll try to start posting more my "real job" is working in Product Management for Sony Ericsson here in Atlanta.
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Nice to see your real, I just ordered a battery from you last night. Got an email from ya today. Im looking forward to receiving this from you. I will be sure to tell everyone ......But on a side note i ordered a cheaper one from mzmshop or whatever it is 3.5 weeks ago and still nothing so he refunded my money which was cool of him but ill spend the extra 5 bucks and get the battery in a few days. I ended up going with yours b/c i saw the other 3500 mah ones and figured they were the same or the 3500 was less. You seemed legit in saying 3000mah and i figured if i get a cheaper 3500mah and its only 2400 then im better off getting your 3000mah.
I'm real.
Things from China have been stupid slow 20-35 days even after Christmas and now is the Chinese New Year so really nothing coming out of Hong Kong until Feb 12th
northmont30096 said:
I'm real.
Things from China have been stupid slow 20-35 days even after Christmas and now is the Chinese New Year so really nothing coming out of Hong Kong until Feb 12th
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now one thing i noticed in your listing was that yours has a built in chip so it doesnt overcharge and undercharge and whatnot. Do those ones from china that dont advertise it also have the chips in them?
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now one thing i noticed in your listing was that yours has a built in chip so it doesnt overcharge and undercharge and whatnot. Do those ones from china that dont advertise it also have the chips in them?
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Most of them do. There are 3 primary manufacturers but the thing is all 3 will run custom lots. So if you have an exporter looking to save a penny they will put out an RFP for ones without it etc. This is how these 3500's likely came about...some large exporter put out an RFP for a 3000mah battery with a custom 3500 sticker and BAM the market is flooded with them.
All of the ones I buy do have them. Depending on the phone it is sometimes better that they don't have the integrated chip. Some companies (Motorola specifically) are starting put push checks in the 2.2.1 Android to check the safety chipset to see if its a Motorola part and if not the phone OS won't recognize the battery. They are doing this to combat counterfeit batteries but unfortunately if affects aftermarket/generic as well.
Thought I would start a battery thread just to see what everyone thinks. I have noticed the battery is 1230 mah and thats a little small for my taste. I have heard nothing bad about battery life, but thought I would start this thread to throw some options out there on where to buy hi-cap batteries. Also if anyone has experience with a site or certain make of battery, that is made for this phone POST IT UP. I haven't really been able to find anything.....
I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.
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I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.
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Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.
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Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.
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They're not worth a dang from what I've read. Crap manufacturers label batteries as they'd like - good luck proving them wrong.
I'm looking out for a legitimate battery, not from ebay, that is over 1300mah. Will post if said battery is found.
I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.
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I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.
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Looks like I may be purchasing a stock battery, and a car charger.
well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.
driftkidd2323 said:
well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.
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Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?
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Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?
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I think you just pay them... it will convert US to pounds.
I ordered a pair of jeans from France this year and you paid as you would anything else... it just converts the euro into US and thats what it takes from your bank.
I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.
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I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.
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I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.
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I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.
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^ That is one option I've used with good success. And the extrernal battery is just a USB connection so I can use it for lots of stuff. It recharges the internal battery at the same time, an added bonus.
I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?
Do where can we buy the dhd batteries from?
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I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?
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no they are not the same.
So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?
man i need to get an extra battery
I ordered a spare from an AT&T corporate store today. The receipt lists it as 1400mah. I assume it's going to be the stock 1230 though. We shall see in a few days.
Link please?
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So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?
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Your best bet would be mugen 1300mah battery. That's the one I am using and last 1-1.5hours more than stock.
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ok guys i really need your help/opinions. my mytouch4gslide has recently been overheating while just casualy using it (facebook,twiitter,minor games,etc). and 2 days ago it started having horrible battery life it goes down 1 or 2 percent every minute or two. and also ive been trying alot of diffrent roms and im still trying each one out again but the problem is still there.before i was with tmobile i had an optimus v for virginmobile and the battery lasted much longer and it wouldnt overheat like this. im really tempted to send this to htc and get it fixed?replaced but i really cant wait two weeks without a phone. so guys tell me if this has ever happened to you or what i should do, i wish i still have the tmobile asurion insurence but i thought it was useless and canceled it last month, what shoudl i do?
o and i bought this piece of crap from tmobile for 500 dollers no sh!t and im still paying for it so i would really like it for it to get fixed
Yea, that's how much I paid for my first one too - well, still paying for...
Did you get insurance with your plan? Not sure if it covers the battery - but it did come with it, so I don't see why not.
Maybe take it in-store and see if you can get a manager or someone who could swap your battery out? Not sure if it works like that.
I'd be leaning towards the battery being shot, or on it's way there.
If it's overheating a lot, then it's just damaging the battery further - but it's also a sign of damage to the battery itself. Some of the cells are burnt out or malfunctioning and preventing/blocking/impeding or somehow just jamming up the electricity transfer in and out of the battery.
If you do an insurance claim, (if you got it with your plan) they ship you a new phone and when it comes in, you send your old one back. Think you have like 7 days to decide if you want the new one or keep the old one.
That would at least give you two batteries to test back and forth and see if it really is a battery problem (but that's the most likely answer)
You might consider getting an aftermarket battery?
On my second phone I swap out between the two HTC batteries I have, and in my plan phone I have the Anker battery I got. The Anker never gets as hot as the stock battery (either one) for the same workload, and I can push the device with the Anker to do much, much more then the one with the stock battery.
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I did do an HTC warranty repair on my second device, and I had to ship it back, they fixed, and sent it back to me. Didn't take that long, less then 13 days (probably by a few days) I could look up my records and find out exactly how many days I didn't have it including my shipping to them - but once they had it, it was speedy service.
The HTC people were an absolute pleasure to deal with on the phone, extremely helpful and taking the time to patiently answer all of my questions or look up accurate answers if need be (and they had to a few times, but you could imagine the grilling of questions I gave an HTC rep since I was on the line with them already)
Definitely seperated themselves from the vast majority of companies i've dealt with for customer service issues (beyond phones into other stuff too)
So past making some awesome tech the people behind it have been fantastic in my experience.
(even if they do make a ****ty battery they should be ashamed of - phone company, not a battery company, but the quality of the battery is way out of spec for the device it's in )
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Sorry to hear about your troubles, but I have a feeling that people are going to start following you who have been using the stock battery for as long as you have.
It generates too much heat, is too inefficient, and that makes it break down faster and die quicker. The more it dies, the less efficient it gets, and the quicker it reaches the end of it's service life.
If I were in your shoes, i'd call the battery shot and start worrying about what that amount of heat is doing to the device itself, specifically its Snapdragon processor. Heat is enemy numbers 1, 2 and 3 for the processor, especially one pushing the limits of it's design like the Snapdragon does.
If you are running an OC kernel, i'd stop that immediately. Hopefully you aren't or haven't been.
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I'd say go to a T-Mo store and start there, do an HTC direct warranty replace as a last resort and consider an aftermarket battery.
The Mugen batteries are unquestionably higher quality then the Anker batteries, but much pricier too.
The Anker battery is far and away better then the garbage stock battery - so even that would be a step up and it's what I run and like using.
(when I can afford to i'm gonna step up to the Mugen battery and gift the Anker to my second phone)
If I were you i'd overnight an Anker battery and stop in a T-Mo store tomorrow to see what your options were and how they were going to make it right for you.
Worst case is an HTC warranty, it's still in the warranty period, the phone hasn't been out for a year yet. I know that's the least desirable option, but if you do have to go that route make sure to mention how the heat has probably damaged the phone itself and they should have a tech or two go over the whole thing with a fine tooth comb. That heat against the processor has really shortened the lifespan of your device.
I say this because sometimes I put down my second phone and turn it off to save it from the heat of a functioning stock battery - a broken one would be a lot more of a concern.
Wish I could say something more positive, but while you are in warranty and have options is not the time to ignore issues that could bite you later.
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Especially since this is clearly not your fault - you are using the battery provided to you with the device itself, and that is now malfunctioning. You didn't do anything to cause this, it's either dumb luck with an even worse battery then normal that HTC themselves provided you, or you are the first of more who are hitting the end of service life on the battery the device came with.
It sucks that the worse it gets, the more quickly the problem gets worse. It's a vicious cycle that there is no way out of, because just using the battery breaks it more.
Even if you have to be without a phone for a week because you have to ship it back to HTC (worst case scenario from your point of view, since you have no device in the meantime) they'll make it right for you. This device is too awesome, and costs too much money, to settle for something that's defective - especially since it's not something you did, just the way it came.
Let's just hope for everyone's sake you got a particularly bad battery and this doesn't turn into an epidemic. Because the overheating of the battery basically breaks it more and more quickly, this is about the right amount of time for them to start crapping out if you got it within the first month of launch.
(based on the ludicrous - yet identical - amount of heat i've been experiencing from two stock batteries is where i'm framing this fear from)
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Sorry, noticed you said you cancelled insurance, i'm pretty tired, but i'll leave what I said in case it helps someone - I wouldn't hesitate to call up HTC and file a manufacturers warranty claim, it should be covered since it's their branded battery that failed. I definitely give them a very high rating for customer service from my experience - I have nothing but good things to say about them to anyone who will listen.
The anker battery definitely will cool down your device. It seems like our stock battery takes a sh*t after about 3 months... Once I got the anker battery I loved the phone so much more, I recommended it to all my friends with sensations/mt4gs phones.
My one friend ended up getting himself 3 ankers, so he always keeps one on the wall charger, one in the phone, and one fully charged in his pocket. He doesn't even plug the phone into the wall anymore. If you do something like him, your phone will also avoid the heat involved with charging via usb
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My one friend ended up getting himself 3 ankers, so he always keeps one on the wall charger, one in the phone, and one fully charged in his pocket. He doesn't even plug the phone into the wall anymore. If you do something like him, your phone will also avoid the heat involved with charging via usb
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Well, you trade wear and tear of one part for wear and tear on another. The wear and tear on the USB jack is much, much worse then the wear and tear on the battery contacts.
The USB jack will wear out long before the battery contacts wear down.
The other part of it is every time you open the back of the device you expose the internals to dust and environmental contaminants.
I'd say as long as it's clean, not dusty or anything when you make the switch, that's the better way to go - as long as they are the same battery (which is what you said your friend had ... all good there)
The big thing would be to not make the switch outside. Try to do it indoors, in still air.
The most dust-free room of any house is most likely the bathroom. Limited to no carpeting and usually much less air space for things to be floating around in, close the window and give it ten minutes to settle first and that's probably the best location to do it. Especially if it's real tile, that's the absolute least opportunity for all the dust and fine particulates on the floor in the rest of the house to be present.
So your friends mode of operation (if when changing the battery conscious of dust and fine particle contamination) is probably the best method to stay charged and put the least wear on the device - except maybe an induction charging backplate.
The only problem with the induction charger is finding a case you can work on it with. I don't have one, but if it's the same size as the standard phone dimensions, then you could use the trident case and not scratch the device up taking it off an on (the trident case is mostly soft plastic and rubber, not hard and sharp plastic)
The downfall to the induction charger is you need a charge plate every where you go, so once you factor that liability in, what your friend is doing with 3 Ankers is probably the best method to keep the phone charged while doing as little damage to it through normal wear and tear possible.
Score a point for creativity and efficiency. I might change my mind about the Mugen and just get a few more Ankers to duplicate the method, after thinking about it. If there's a better way, why do anything else? That seems like it'd be worth buying the extra batteries for, i'll just pay attention and snipe some on sale.
Thanks for sharing, that's a happy tidbit of info and i'm definitely going to work towards implementing it. I want this device to last me as long as I can make it, and any way of taking better care of it or doing something like the battery swap method that just makes way more sense is always welcome to hear about.
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I should've gone to sleep already since I have to get moving in just a few short hours - but after typing out my previous reply I figured i'd swap my stock battery since you shouldn't let them sit without being used for a long period of time.
(I wish I could charge the stock batteries out of the device, I could copy a shorter version of that method with my two stock batteries - oh well.)
Anyways, when I did, I noticed something. Each came with one of my devices, and they are both the same battery, but they are backwards. It looks like it was deliberate, too, because all the markings are correct for + / - and whatnot.
Don't know what to make of it, so I figured i'd share just to get the info out there in case it's of use to anyone - (for what, I have no idea) - but they both suck equally, so there's no benefit of less heat for one or the other, and they both last about the same amount of time near as I can tell without actually measuring.
Doesn't seem like one lasts longer then the other, and i'm pretty sensitive to that kind of stuff. If people are curious i'll measure them a couple of times each and see for sure, if not I won't waste my time when there's other work to do.
Anyways, I snapped some pictures of it to illustrate what I mean, since describing it would end up being confusing for some and i'm half delerious as it is.
They are both the same:
- brand = (HTC)
- model = (BG58100)
- Rating = (3.7VDC)
- Capacity = (1520 mAh)
- Watt Hours = (5.62Whr)
Different serial numbers, and Different part numbers.
The one that shows the writing/bar code side up when installed in the device is:
- part number 35H00150-00m
The one that shows the blank side up when installed in the device is:
- part number 35H00153-00m
Does anyone out there have any other part numbers for the stock batteries? I wonder how many versions there are and if there are any differences between them.
Two of my friends got this device after seeing all the cool stuff I could do with it and being less then impressed with the devices the rest of our/their friends had - they needed a hardware keyboard too so obviously this was the answer.
I will check their stock batteries and see what they are, if it's anything different i'll post that too - might take a few days or so to get ahold of them and find out.
I should have noticed this a long time ago. Anyways, here's the pics to illustrate the outward differences:
no worrys i just charged my phone all night and its workin good again, and i do have anker. im on your bulletproof rom and ive been off the charger for an hour and ive been texting and playing games and its still at 100 percent
Blue if ur gonna copy my friend, keep the spare in a ziplock bag, moisture is one of the reasons people say u shouldn't leave them out and unused for long periods of time
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wiswis said:
no worrys i just charged my phone all night and its workin good again, and i do have anker. im on your bulletproof rom and ive been off the charger for an hour and ive been texting and playing games and its still at 100 percent
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Awesome to hear you're in good shape again.
Was the problem you were having with the stock battery or the anker?
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Blue if ur gonna copy my friend, keep the spare in a ziplock bag, moisture is one of the reasons people say u shouldn't leave them out and unused for long periods of time
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I have some nylon camera cases i've been using to carry around the doubleshots, and they have pockets that I slip things like memory cards, cables and the stock batteries in (whichever one isn't being used).
Appreciate the heads up, but I got the cases to keep the doubleshot behind a zipper to keep dust out, and when the accessories are in the zipper pockets they are protected enough. There isn't a lot of fog where I live, only rarely and otherwise the ambient moisture is not very high so it's not a big deal.
If I didn't have the cases, though, i'd definitely be using something like that. There were a couple of times I carried the doubleshot itself around in a ziplock bag back in august, if it was raining or going to rain that's how it left my house in my pocket. That's what prompted me to get the nylon cases - and though they aren't waterproof or anything, it's enough to not have to worry about it.
If i'm going to be in the rain then that's what I do - i'll have to come up with something better before it hits the rainy season around here - this time of year it doesn't rain often.
I'm having a similar problem, though not as extreme.
My phone's battery doesn't actually heat up but the area around the simcard. I'm running Pyroice with the extreme UV kernel and underclocked the CPU to 810mhz Max with setcpu 2.1.1a but it still warms up around the simcard area. I also never get anything better than 12hrs battery life.
Should I be worried?
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cybot_x1024 said:
I'm having a similar problem, though not as extreme.
My phone's battery doesn't actually heat up but the area around the simcard. I'm running Pyroice with the extreme UV kernel and underclocked the CPU to 810mhz Max with setcpu 2.1.1a but it still warms up around the simcard area. I also never get anything better than 12hrs battery life.
Should I be worried?
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I have had this same problem from day one. Even with the anker battery, and on every rom I have tried. I sometimes use flat icepacks to cool it down when it gets too hot. I haven't found anything fix.
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I use my Mugen as my regular battery and my two Ankers as spares. I only have the OEM battery in case I need to send it to T-Mobile.
So I got the model numbers from both stock batteries that my friends have for their phones. Both are the same.
- part number 35H00153-00m
...and that matches one of the ones I have from above.
Anyone else have any other model numbers on their stock batteries that are different?
It would be nice to know what's out there and if a particular model seems to do better then another.
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I run both stock batteries in one phone, and the anker in the other. Very rarely does the anker device get hot enough that I take notice and pay attention to it, but it does happen.
The one swapping out stock batteries back and forth can trigger a battery switch if it has been two days and I haven't swapped, or it gets too hot.
If it gets too hot I turn it off, let it cool down and then turn it on with the other battery. I try to keep the one not in use as full as viable, but never less then about halfway for more then a short while.
Enough people have shown a serious reduction in heat of the device by using an aftermarket battery that we've concluded pretty solidly that the stock battery is responsible for a large portion of the excessive heat.
Heat is the number one enemy of these kinds of batteries and microprocessors. If it starts to get hot enough to be uncomfortable in your hands, then you should start thinking about letting it cool down before running it so hard.
It happens more frequently then i'd like with the device running stock batteries, but I always make the decision that whatever i'm doing isn't worth aging the device and reducing it's service life just because I couldn't stop using it for a few minutes to let it cool off. The money I spent on it means more the longer it's in service, abusing it unnecessarily is wasteful to me.
I'm pretty particular about things like that, just my way. Your mileage may vary.
Blue: my stock battery has the same product number
i can't really say i've noticed it getting hot enough to take notice of it, but then again, i mainly use the Anker, since i only need to charge it once a day.
i was wondering if there's a chance that the heat issue is something HTC addressed in the last OTA update? definitely hard to say, but possible i suppose. perhaps i can try using the stock battery on the newest stock ROM and see if it heats up.
I doubt it's a matter of software or we wouldn't see much if any change when swapping to a different battery like the mugen or anker.
Any theory is valid until disproven though, and you never know unless you try so let us know how it turns out.
Alright. Just like what happens with many smartphones, third party sources have started releasing batteries with a little more juice than the Original LG Batteries of 2800mAh. I have to admit it, i was kind of counting on it because it happens a lot of time. But how reliable could they be? Would NFC work with them? Will it make our phone explode? From 2800mAh to 3250mAh is 450 more juice to drain. Has someone tested it? I've posted the link and a couple of pictures.
Links:
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Yifa...qid=1466065770&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+g5+3200+mah
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Extende...801116?hash=item281a5a0d5c:g:hsUAAOSwjXRXX5q7
If you have tried any similar please share. I'm sure many people will be interested to know :good:
Good luck with that company 1 star and arrives mid to late July from China. No thanks original LG battery and charger 35$ get it in a couple days
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I just recieved two of them from Ebay. Charged one in the charging cradle, took a little longer than the stock battery. Installed it in the phone last night and will report on my findings. Everything seems fine so far.
lilhaiti said:
I just recieved two of them from Ebay. Charged one in the charging cradle, took a little longer than the stock battery. Installed it in the phone last night and will report on my findings. Everything seems fine so far.
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Can you please also try the NFC feature if you have another phone with NFC capability? And also, whether the SOT improves or if it remains the same. and finally, in comparison to the other battery, how long does the phone last , based on your average usage (say: wifi on/off, usual brightness or auto brightness, etc. ) Let us know. Thanks
On my Thread I found one that has 3600mah found at AliExpress
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On my Thread I found one that has 3600mah found at AliExpress
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did you buy it? How was it? but there is something odd with that one. They sell 5 pcs for 30 dollars? there is something off
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did you buy it? How was it? but there is something odd with that one. They sell 5 pcs for 30 dollars? there is something off
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I have the G4 and I'm sure you can find one for just 1 pcs
Here's one from brand TQTHL which I would trust as I have 2 for my G4 and both work great
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Can you please also try the NFC feature if you have another phone with NFC capability? And also, whether the SOT improves or if it remains the same. and finally, in comparison to the other battery, how long does the phone last , based on your average usage (say: wifi on/off, usual brightness or auto brightness, etc. ) Let us know. Thanks
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I have tested for two day and although I haven't gotten any numbers to prove it...the battery works great. It does last longer with the same usage...but I wouldn't say that the difference is huge but it does have a little more endurance. I'd say that if you are looking for an extra battery...this is not a bad choice especially just to keep as a spare. Everything works fine as well.
Also...it may take a few cycles to get the battery calibrated...my first discharge I was disappointed because it dad extremely fast but after letting it run down and charging it a few times it seems to last a little longer than stock. I'll leave the battery in for a while and if I get time to collect screen on before I charge it I will.
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lilhaiti said:
I have tested for two day and although I haven't gotten any numbers to prove it...the battery works great. It does last longer with the same usage...but I wouldn't say that the difference is huge but it does have a little more endurance. I'd say that if you are looking for an extra battery...this is not a bad choice especially just to keep as a spare. Everything works fine as well.
Also...it may take a few cycles to get the battery calibrated...my first discharge I was disappointed because it dad extremely fast but after letting it run down and charging it a few times it seems to last a little longer than stock. I'll leave the battery in for a while and if I get time to collect screen on before I charge it I will.
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I think one would see a real difference if it had 900mah ane up more than usual. I was kind of expecting for that though. Hahaha. But i have the feeling they will release an eveb bigger one. Something like 4000mAh+ but you have provided us with great detail. Thank you. If you have the SOT in the future feel free to provide if
I doubt we will see anything much larger in the same size. Batteries have limited capacity/cm3, and LG, being one of the best and largest battery manufacturer, maxed out on that value. The problem here is the physical size of the battery cell...
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I doubt we will see anything much larger in the same size. Batteries have limited capacity/cm3, and LG, being one of the best and largest battery manufacturer, maxed out on that value. The problem here is the physical size of the battery cell...
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Actually Zerolemon emailed me and said they are working on a battery for the G5 as we speak. They can be miracle workers lol
BR7fan said:
Actually Zerolemon emailed me and said they are working on a battery for the G5 as we speak. They can be miracle workers lol
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They managed to do that by replacing the back cover with their own "case", including an extra-size cell. The G5's different battery removal mechanics make it a lot less viable option, especially adding the bottom module (which houses not just the USB connector, but speakers, microphone, and some antennas) as a cost.
My original comment was directed at the allegedly 3200/3250mAh cells popping up for 5-10$ a piece. There's a reason why official LG cells are 25$, and these after-market ones cost less than half of that. Sure, LG needs to cover the development costs, but I'm pretty sure the after-market ones are so cheap mainly because of corner cutting. And that comes with extended hazard. But if you feel like ruining your 600$+ phone because you went cheap and paid 10$ instead of 25$ for a battery... It's your call.
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They managed to do that by replacing the back cover with their own "case", including an extra-size cell. The G5's different battery removal mechanics make it a lot less viable option, especially adding the bottom module (which houses not just the USB connector, but speakers, microphone, and some antennas) as a cost.
My original comment was directed at the allegedly 3200/3250mAh cells popping up for 5-10$ a piece. There's a reason why official LG cells are 25$, and these after-market ones cost less than half of that. Sure, LG needs to cover the development costs, but I'm pretty sure the after-market ones are so cheap mainly because of corner cutting. And that comes with extended hazard. But if you feel like ruining your 600$+ phone because you went cheap and paid 10$ instead of 25$ for a battery... It's your call.
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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I have been following the forum site for lg g5 modules development and untill now no one has has stepped up with the idea (no one that would have the knowledge to start building a module for the g5 at least)
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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It's just a matter of time and I think lg should be the one to do.
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Yeah I could see someone make a module that has a slim but like a little bit more mah
Check out this thread I did for the Sensation (ages ago). It's not relevant to this phone, other than to say that you'll recognize some of the labels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753726
The TLDR: Actual mAh was was tested reliably (external discharge, outside of the phone) and batteries with the same label style as the two linked in the OP actually had roughly 30% and 50% of their stated capacity, and much less than stock.
I've got a G5 coming this week. I wouldn't be against doing another thread like the one I did in 2012 on the Sensation, if there's demand.
I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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The mixed reviews are in part my fault. I'm one of the reviewers with that battery and for some reason Amazon will not post my updated review, I've tried 3 different occasions to post follow ups but they won't post.
What I learned with that battery is it works, only it does give me the invalid battery message and the phone shuts off but only if I reboot the phone at 100% battery life, upon booting the phone reports 50% charge and shuts off. You have to restart it a couple times until it's used a percentage or 2, then it boots fine. I emailed the seller about it and they responded with the cells are tested and they only use quality parts, they sent me another battery but that one does the same as the original. With the issue with the note 7 and other phones/chargers I stopped using the battery. It might be perfectly safe but I can't determine that and the risk is not one I am willing to wait and see. Here's a link to another topic here on XDA where I responded about this battery.
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I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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So, after the first full charge and discharge to 11%, I'm getting very good times better than stock. This will probably increase with a few more charging cycles. My opinion is this battery is definitely more mA. I will review more when later.
Hello there, I see that there are multiple replacement battery offerings on Amazon, and I was curious if anyone had any experience with them.
I was looking at: https://www.amazon.com/2300mAh-Repl...sr=8-1-spons&keywords=htc+one+s+battery&psc=1
Which is a non-OEM battery
And I was also looking at: https://www.amazon.com/HTC-35H00185...=1513958021&sr=8-3&keywords=htc+one+s+battery
Which is an OEM battery.
However, the reviews of the battery provided by HTC would lead me to believe that perhaps HTC is reselling old/used batteries from devices that may have come in for repairs. I was hoping someone could shed some light on it.
I have experience of using 3rd party batteries in other phones, namely a BlackBerry Z10, and I haven't had any issues in the past. I was just looking for some recommendations from the community. Thanks
I've been browsing old posts on here looking for solutions to this same problem (finding suitable battery replacements or even upgrades for this device).
So far the verdict is still out whether upgrading to a bigger battery will actually yield better results. Some say bigger batteries do provide better battery life, others say it's no different from the stock unit (purportedly since the phone can't utilize any more than the stock 1650mAh), and some say it's much worse (may be due to faulty/rubbish packs).
Most people say that One X and even One X+ batteries fit in the HTC One S, though some have encountered various, minor problems in doing so. 3rd-party batteries seem to be a mixed bag as well.
Curiously, One X and One X+ batteries are actually slightly cheaper than One S batteries, haven't got a clue as to why.
Most of the posts discussing this topic is from 2013/2014, so there's not a lot of data from newer builds of Android (with Project Volta) in conjunction with fresh battery packs.
I hope others can chime in on the matter as well, would very much like some suggestions as to what would be the best course of action.
Okay, just installed a new 1800mAh battery (One X (BJ83100) OEM battery on discount). I'll let you know how it fares in the near future after having done a few full cycles on it. It proved to be quite a challenge to get it installed, but hey, everything seems to be working fine, for now at least.
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Okay, just installed a new 1800mAh battery (One X (BJ83100) OEM battery on discount). I'll let you know how it fares in the near future after having done a few full cycles on it. It proved to be quite a challenge to get it installed, but hey, everything seems to be working fine, for now at least.
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I'm so much interested if it runs properly... I love this terminal
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I'm so much interested if it runs properly... I love this terminal
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Well, to follow up on my previous promises;
Battery-life seems to be heavily dependent on the particular usage patterns and the specific ROM. I wouldn't say battery life's much better than with a new, stock battery, perhaps marginally better. It does take quite a while to charge though, and in most cases it won't be able to fully recharge without being shut off. Though that could also be due to the charger that I used.
I took a few screenshots of the battery section to get a rough estimate of the endurance of the battery, but due to other, unforeseen circumstances, I'm not able to retrieve them at this moment, though they did look promising!
Long story short - it'll work fairly well, but just go for the original battery, if you want it to work properly. As previously mentioned, I only went for the One X+ battery due to it being heavily discounted.
Hope that helps clear things up!