All,
I have a Viewsonic GTab that is running beautifully with Tnt Lite v2.2. I find myself fighting with my wife over who gets to use it, so I've been considering purchasing another.
My employer has a corporate plan with AT&T and my boss said I could order a Samsung Galaxy Tab (with data plan) and the company would pay for it. They won't reimburse me for another GTab. It's the Galaxy Tab for free or GTab at my own expense. The data plan isn't a big issue since I already have a company-paid MiFi device.
My question is, if you were in my position would you take the free Galaxy Tab with data plan, or would you purchase another GTab? The GTab's 10" screen is a nice size and the quality is bearable (it doesn't bother me as much as other people), but it's definitely not a portable device. On the flip side, from what I've read the Galaxy Tab is sort of slow and isn't as powerful as the GTab.
What I need is a powerful device that will fully support Flash (like TnT Lite v2.2 does), but I also need stability and an upgrade path to Android v2.3. So far my GTab is super stable.
The high price tag of the Galaxy Tab seems to have hindered development, but from what I hear some recent ROMs are working very well.
What would you do in my position?
Dude, it's free! If my company offered me a free pandigital e-reader, I'll take it. lol.
Note, I own a gtab and I don't own a galaxy.
If you have two gtabs hardware add ons like stands will work for both.
When you are flying on 3g she wont be. Does her phone provide a mobile hot spot?
Are you more mobile? The galaxy looks much more mobile friendly, which sacrifices screen size.
Can you get both of them to do everything they need to do; vpn, rdp, email, calendar, flash, games, emulators, and extra bluetooth profiles?
I think the galaxy looks slick, 3g seems nice but it is your employers 3g is that possibly an issue?
gunsjoe said:
Note, I own a gtab and I don't own a galaxy.
If you have two gtabs hardware add ons like stands will work for both.
When you are flying on 3g she wont be. Does her phone provide a mobile hot spot?
Are you more mobile? The galaxy looks much more mobile friendly, which sacrifices screen size.
Can you get both of them to do everything they need to do; vpn, rdp, email, calendar, flash, games, emulators, and extra bluetooth profiles?
I think the galaxy looks slick, 3g seems nice but it is your employers 3g is that possibly an issue?
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1.) I like the size of the GTab screen, but it is definitely not a portable device. I played with the Galaxy Tab and the size is exactly what I want.
2.) We use an AT&T MiFi device with the GTab when we aren't at home, so mobile Internet access would be identical on both devices, except that the MiFi allows 5GB/month and the Galaxy Tab data plan only allows 2GB/month. I could switch to the MiFi when I hit the 2GB limit.
3.) There are basically NO accessories for the GTab right now, including protective cases, so we have to be ridiculously careful with the tablet. The Galaxy Tab has a nice protective rubber case that I would get.
4.) I'm sure both devices will do what I want, but I just have a feeling that the GTab will be much faster than the Galaxy Tab.
5.) There aren't any issues using the company paid 3G plan for whatever I want, as long as I don't cause any overage charges.
6.) It's not an issue of free vs. paid. I wouldn't use an Apple product even if someone paid me to do so. I hate Apple that much. The same goes with this. I don't want a free but crappy device...
Can anyone else chime in?
I have looked at the 3G devices and they really are cool. But for all the hardware cool, I don't see how I could ever live with the 5 gig data plan.
Mercy, I move that much every night!!
I think people who want a tablet via wireless phone should take a careful look at whether data plans will allow them to do what they want day after day.
Think about it.....
Rev
P. S. -- I still have an old Motorola flip phone rather than a smart phone for the same reason.
For me it's screen size, I played with the galaxy at best buy, it was too small.
I enjoy my gtab and it's turning heads everywhere I go. If I need 3g I simply connect to my hero and away I go.
I'd go for the one you want, for me I would not be asking others as I am the one that has to enjoy it.
anlog said:
All,
I have a Viewsonic GTab that is running beautifully with Tnt Lite v2.2. I find myself fighting with my wife over who gets to use it, so I've been considering purchasing another.
My employer has a corporate plan with AT&T and my boss said I could order a Samsung Galaxy Tab (with data plan) and the company would pay for it. They won't reimburse me for another GTab. It's the Galaxy Tab for free or GTab at my own expense. The data plan isn't a big issue since I already have a company-paid MiFi device.
My question is, if you were in my position would you take the free Galaxy Tab with data plan, or would you purchase another GTab? The GTab's 10" screen is a nice size and the quality is bearable (it doesn't bother me as much as other people), but it's definitely not a portable device. On the flip side, from what I've read the Galaxy Tab is sort of slow and isn't as powerful as the GTab.
What I need is a powerful device that will fully support Flash (like TnT Lite v2.2 does), but I also need stability and an upgrade path to Android v2.3. So far my GTab is super stable.
The high price tag of the Galaxy Tab seems to have hindered development, but from what I hear some recent ROMs are working very well.
What would you do in my position?
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Why not get both?
butchconner said:
I have looked at the 3G devices and they really are cool. But for all the hardware cool, I don't see how I could ever live with the 5 gig data plan.
Mercy, I move that much every night!!
I think people who want a tablet via wireless phone should take a careful look at whether data plans will allow them to do what they want day after day.
Think about it.....
Rev
P. S. -- I still have an old Motorola flip phone rather than a smart phone for the same reason.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Tab does have WiFi. You can turn off 3G and use WiFi at home or wherever else it is available.
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Why not get both?
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I would have a nervous breakdown with three tablets. I already have an Android phone, main laptop, netbook, GTab, Aluratek eReader, and my wife's iPhone and laptop to deal with. I NEED fewer devices, but I WANT more...
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I NEED fewer devices, but I WANT more...
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I know the feeling. You wind-up working harder to support the lifestyle, then suddenly, you have no free time.
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Yeah, Though I'm a mac owner I know what you mean about apple, I'm really hopefully of Chrome coming out next year though. CR-48 looks like a good competitor to MBAir.
Ok, regarding your question. I'd get another gtab, why? Because you've already spent all the time learning the one you've got, and optimizing the setup. Surely new updates will come out, which you will spend more time on. Why do that for two separate devices/manufacturers/hardware profiles? Go with the gtab and save yourself the trouble (also your wife will be happy with future updates riding your coat-tails).
Paul
+1 Free is always a good thing.
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This may sound silly, and I tried to search.
Intuitively, I would venture that I could purchase a 32GB xoom with 3G and NOT have to have a data plan, but the Best Buy that has it on sale says data plan required...
Now I have two other tablets that are WiFi only, so I do not need a data plan, as I am looking for a device for playing videos in the car for my kids. Currently using the Archos 10.1 -which is a dog with horrible viewing angles, when I ran across the best Buy refurb units. (I don't count the Archos as one of my tablets, which are a Thrive and a GT 10.1 refurb -both of which are great)
My concern is that without a data plan, can I still upgrade the xoom to ICS since it states that it ships with Honeycomb?
Sorry for stupid questions, but I am really interested in this tablet and could care less about the weight -since that is the only real dig that I hear about on these guys. But I do not want to buy something that is at a low price point because Verizon has a lock on it somehow...and I do not want to find out the hard way.
THX
Mike
Yes, it is google experience device - easy ROM installs.
crashmw said:
This may sound silly, and I tried to search.
Intuitively, I would venture that I could purchase a 32GB xoom with 3G and NOT have to have a data plan, but the Best Buy that has it on sale says data plan required...
Now I have two other tablets that are WiFi only, so I do not need a data plan, as I am looking for a device for playing videos in the car for my kids. Currently using the Archos 10.1 -which is a dog with horrible viewing angles, when I ran across the best Buy refurb units. (I don't count the Archos as one of my tablets, which are a Thrive and a GT 10.1 refurb -both of which are great)
My concern is that without a data plan, can I still upgrade the xoom to ICS since it states that it ships with Honeycomb?
Sorry for stupid questions, but I am really interested in this tablet and could care less about the weight -since that is the only real dig that I hear about on these guys. But I do not want to buy something that is at a low price point because Verizon has a lock on it somehow...and I do not want to find out the hard way.
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Mike
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Yes it's a little heaver than other tabs (it has a 3G modem in it, and it was one of the first tablets made) but it is probably more durable than the thin one. You don't notice the lil weight after a while. The price is lower because Moto does not make this version of Tab any more its obsolete, but in my opinion this is one of the BEST Tabs out there. Any Whooo ....
Why yes you can upgrade to ICS (a rooted ICS because Motorola has not released a Stock ICS version for the 3G-4G Xoom) You can use your 3G Xoom on Wifi, you don't need a data plan. The sales guy doesn't have a clue, all though getting a data plan from VZ is not that expensive. I think the lowest is $10 for 1GB or something like that. I pay $50 for 5GB of data, I am not on a contract and I can cut the service off at anytime. It really depends on your needs. I don't stream music or watch a lot of YouTube so I don't use my Data for that. I browse the web on WIFI, download small files using WIFI, and watch TV shows from Crackle or Hulu all using WIFI. You a can get a lot of use out of the WIFI. When I need to get a 1GB file to download I just switch to my 4G. I use my Data for huge file downloads, HotSpotting for my other Devices, etc ... and I can barely use up the 5GB. But that is me. All in all if you don't need Data then don't get it. If you change your mind later on, that option will always be there. Hope This Helps with your decision making.
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I feel this is more of a general "lets get your opinion/feel" but ive experienced in the past, any topic that has any question in it, gets moved to this section.. So im posting it here.
I'd like to get people opinions (and experiences if any) on the Asus Padfone. I've been eyeing the HTC Amaze, but there have been a few issues reported with it, and with new tech being released this year, im also considering other devices. The Padfone caught my eye due to its apparent versatility. (Especially since the HTC One series has been a massive letdown with the non-existent mSD card slot)
Though there do seem to be some things lacking with this device, such as the camera (apparently, the HTC one has an independent processor which speeds it up) for example.
Also the fact that its 3g and not 4g/LTE seems to be a step back (tho this isnt an concern for me, but could be later).
Anyway.. Thoughts? Concerns?
Not worth buying
I'm considering getting one. I'm from the Netherlands so 3G is just fine for me!
Pricing is rumoured around €699 euro here, pretty steep though... That's without the dock (which will set you back another €150 I bet)
I love the idea of having everything in one place (on your phone) and basically click it into the tablet for typing during class or watching/reading something.
Jam it into the dock for longer writing sessions... I can see this being a very useful combination for me personally. I'm not sure the average user will find this a useful gadget though.
Downside is that you really have to use the phone all the time and I'm not sure how well everything works softwarewise when you load the phone into the dock, screensize wise etc, etc.
Its just that I got a Gnex that I love so dearly
PokeiShoW said:
Not worth buying
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Care to elaborate?
newbie thoughts on the padfone
Last July 2011, I posted this thread on another forum and look at what happened in the interim - the Padfone!
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"Looking for serious multi-purpose (non-existent yet) tablet
I am a newbie. I have been communicating with a variety of tech publications incl Walt Mossberg, WSJ. But no serious response. I do not own a tablet right now but want to propose features that can be incorporated to the current crop. You folks can chime in (with respect) if you think my ideas are plausible.
Full disclosure. Currently, I am not a fan of the crop of tablets in the market today. What is out there (regardless of brand) are just pure "gadgets" for me. I do not do social networking nor games. I realize that I am in the minority in the high-tech populace.
I will consider a tablet with the configuration below to trim my techie equipment inventory. I believe this would be a truly PORTABLE, POWERFUL, SINGLE COMBINATION alternative to having (1) a communication/convenience/entertainment" device (tablet) AND (2) a PC for serious professional computing work, should I need to do some.
Samsung Galaxy-like form factor (or maybe even slightly larger or heavier)
Full Cell phone call capable (CDMA/GSM) - 3 or 4G thru BT (either on ear device or car's BT wireless communicator) - not just Google Talk or Skype
Web-access wireless card (a/b/g/n)
BT enabled to pair with my car's BT audio system wireless connection to play music stored in the tablet and other BT capable devices (tech already available)
Semi-full size BT keyboard/case (tech already available)
Available USB2 or 3 port/s
Available docking device to connect to an external larger LCD monitor, full-size keyboard, printer, optical drive, external HD, etc (?) to really replace my office/home notebook
Enough processor power (Intel/AMD dual core or higher), storage to support a full PC OS (Windows 7/8 or Mac OS), Internet Browser (IE9, FF5, Chrome, Safari, etc) and APPLICATION PROGRAMS AND DATA!
Sufficient battery life (replaceable) with AC/DC charging/connectivity capability
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Do you think this config for a tablet system has market and production potential? Or better yet, is there one already out there? I know that the technology to accomplish all of these exist already. It just takes somebody to put it all together.
Your professional insights are greatly appreciated."
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Since the Pf is not in our shores yet and I have been sick and tired of the all the unboxing, first videos from Barcelona, Taiwan specs and availability, I just implore ASUS to get their act together and stop the teasing and give us the US model! Regardless how a bunch of folks have trashed it, I on the other hand WANT ONE NOW. I realize that this desire is sight unseen, performance and quality unknown and not all the specs I listed above are in the model available everywhere else, I believe the concept of 3 in 1 is a brilliant one. I may not be as techie as you folks but for my use and from prelim videos and specs, what ASUS has done is phenomenal.
I would greatly appreciate your more techie input as well as marketing intel (US availaibility, specs, price, carrier, etc.). BTW, I still refuse to buy and do not want any of the tablets available today. Thanks.
The mechanism to insert the phone into the tablet looks like its the first thing to break rendering the whole concept useless.
But i have not hold it in my hand, anyone have some info on the build quality?
Dark3n said:
The mechanism to insert the phone into the tablet looks like its the first thing to break rendering the whole concept useless.
But i have not hold it in my hand, anyone have some info on the build quality?
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It's possible, it depends if the "door" needs to be closed before it will output to the tabdock. Plus, im sure alot said that about flip phones and sliding phone. My Touch Pro 2 is still going pretty strong, and it has a sliding keyboard.
Something id like it know is with the Keyboard dock, is it 'closeable'. As in, can you dock the tablet to it, then "close it" like a laptop so you can transport it as one piece?
first try... and probably last
very difficult positioning for Asus. They're trying desperately to innovate more that the competition to get a strong foot in that market.
However, this solution might not be fully interesting for a lot of people... If its a failure, they'll have lost a great deal of money that could have been used to make up for the difference with the latest ipad...
If this will be a failure , atleast the price will drop fast ( something like Evo 3d -50% )
addiz said:
If this will be a failure , atleast the price will drop fast ( something like Evo 3d -50% )
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Why do you think it will be a failure?
it's something new and different let's see how people will act after buying it
Has a lot of potential...
Has a LOT of potential if marketed correctly.
I have a original ASUS Transformer TF101 with keyboard dock for eight months now and I can say its an amazing machine. The performance is just right, the battery lasts forever, almost stock ICS, lots of updates.
I have the only combination of devices that can compete with the full Padfone setup: a modern smartphone (Samsung Galaxy Note) and the mentioned Transformer, with full tethering support. If the Padfone system can have a significant price advantage, the consistency it provides (the Note have Android 2.3.6) can make it a winner.
Feels way to expensive.
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yes the hinge closes like a laptop
problem: the hinge only opens around 90 degrees so you won't get a great viewing angle unless you are at a similar level.
when the latch of the tablet station opens to release the phone, it stops the phone being bent outwards, so you have to pull up and thus, not breaking the connector.
not having 4g is a big downer for me. I was going to get this and might still but seriously, uk is getting 4g this year so I doubt I'd want this when it gets released.
The price of phone + 10" screen is Euro 699.
I think it will not be a success.
Why? (iPhone 4S + New iPad) is only Euro 199 more than the phone and a dummy screen.
Moreover, if you're going to carry around a dummy screen, why not carry a REAL tablet??
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The price of phone + 10" screen is Euro 699.
I think it will not be a success.
Why? (iPhone 4S + New iPad) is only Euro 199 more than the phone and a dummy screen.
Moreover, if you're going to carry around a dummy screen, why not carry a REAL tablet??
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beeecause with a iphone and ipad, your data is in 2 places? So if you edit something on your ipad, you have to take steps to also update it on your iphone.. Plus, itunes.. thats always a disadvantage.
I see the appeal, and 200 bucks More isnt small.
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beeecause with a iphone and ipad, your data is in 2 places? So if you edit something on your ipad, you have to take steps to also update it on your iphone.. Plus, itunes.. thats always a disadvantage.
I see the appeal, and 200 bucks More isnt small.
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I thought it's no need to take any steps? As long as your iPad is online at home, whatever you do on iPhone outside is automatically synced, as shown in the iCloud launching videos.
199 euro is small, when you compare a screen+ battery, with a fully functioned retina display iPad.
sounds good
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I thought it's no need to take any steps? As long as your iPad is online at home, whatever you do on iPhone outside is automatically synced, as shown in the iCloud launching videos.
199 euro is small, when you compare a screen+ battery, with a fully functioned retina display iPad.
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Well, i wont get apple products. If i were to get two devices, both would be android. Im sure it would be similar, but i don't like messing with clouds either, that's just a gimik to eat up your limited "unlimited" data package. Especially when your talking about my case of 400+mb PDF files.
I'm not completely sold on it, but it seems like a good idea, plus ive not yet seen official pricing on it.
Not that benchmarks mean much.. but...
ASUS PadFone gets benchmarked: a mere teaser of what's to come
So at my local store there is a deal on this thing, buy now, pay 6months later.
Is it worth buying? I've looked at the reviews and they are all pretty good, I like the touchwize element and the look of the Samsung customised apps on it.
I recently bricked my Sony Tablet S, so looking for something a little different until it's fixed!
Any ideas please?
Well overall, this is a pretty solid tablet. Best in class IMO.
But, that being said, it still has its quirks.
Not to mention no ICS (and we all question whether we'll get it or not)
Also, if u decide to get it, don't expect any AOSP (CM, AOKP, MIUI) for some time. Samsung isn't cooperating with us by withholding some important bits of source that we need.
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Thanks for the feedback, for me it's not about the ROM's, but the usage. Is it stable, fast, pretty lag free?
I can get it, use it under a 15day money back guarentee.
It's a great tablet. I've had an iPad, a Samsung Galaxy Tab (original 3G 7 inch) a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and now this, and this is the first one I have been completely happy with.
The hardware is similar to the SGS2, which means its smooth and fast, with sufficient battery life for all the travelling I do. The SGT10.1 had the rather poor Tegra2 chipset which I found quite disappointing, whereas the Xynos in the SGT7+ is fast and stable. The fact that it has a microSD slot is very important to me (The SGT10.1 lacked one and therefore if you got a 16GB one, you were stuck with about 13GB of storage).
At the moment it lacks ICS, but having been using ICS on my Galaxy Nexus for a couple of months, I can live with Honeycomb for now.
I'll be sticking with my SGT7+ for a while I think!
I'm happy with mine overall, but it does have a few issues that may be common to all firmware versions:
1. Bluetooth keyboard/mouse lag has been reported.
2. Analog audio output volume can be low/problematic (I always use a bt headset).
3. I've noticed network lag on every wifi AP I've connected to: 20-150ms fluctuating ping latency to LAN and Internet hosts. Other devices on my LAN, including my old Nook Color, get the expected sub-10ms pings to each other.
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I enjoy this tablet.
I bought this for the 7" form factor. I think it works great. I use it for taking notes, or outlining ideas, along with lots of reading. Web, E-Book, work document review whatever... it works just fine. I also like it for a "second Screen" for podcasts while I'm browsing on my desktop PC.
Cons for me are it seems to warm up on the left side with heavy wifi use, and that is mildly annoying, but tolerable. Touch Wiz seemed to talk up a bunch of RAM and crash on me, I replaced it with Go Launcher HD and haven't had a problem since. I just wish I could ditch it completely.
As far as I can tell at this moment, there isn't a another 7" tablet with the same battery life, feature set, and price point. Ultimately that is why I picked one up.
So TouchWiz isn't good on it?
It was one of the reasons why I'd buy it...
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So TouchWiz isn't good on it?
It was one of the reasons why I'd buy it...
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TouchWiz is fine on mine and on the other units I purchased for floor-use at the plant.
I have had nearly zero issues out of my 7+. Former iPad, Xoom, and Kindle Fire owner here, and the 7+ is easily the best tablet I have owned, TouchWiz included.
Very Good Product, but...
Flyer:
I have had my SGT 7 plus for about a month, and it is my favorite of our five tablets, which include a Nook Color, a Xoom and 2 Transformer 102s; all of which have ICS. It works very smoothly and has all the power I need. However I do not do intensive gaming.
The screen image is bright and clear, and aside of a few force closures, most likely caused by apps mis-behaving, I have had no problems with the stock Honeycomb OS.
Regarding the negative comments about TouchWiz, I feel it has some nice features, but I do not feel the hidden app tray on the bottom of the screen is as handy as it would be if the apps were selectable (if they are I have not figured how).
In response to the comment about TouchWiz consuming a lot of power, I personally have not found that to be the case. To me it just seems to be a feature that is somewhat unobtrusively there if you want to use it (although I would be the first to admit I probably am not familiar with all the features).
Regarding power use in general, compared to my other tablets, my SGT 7 plus is very good. In fact, if I just close the screen, it barely sips power. Of course I am sure that is, in part, because of the way I have it set up.
There are a few things that I wish were different; such as the lack of a stand alone USB connector, and the use of a proprietary charge/usb connector. But to me that is really nitpicking in the overall scheme of things.
The only serious concern I have is the impact the soon to come out SGT 2 7" will have on our getting ICS in a timely manner. There is no doubt in my mind the SGT 7 plus is a better tablet, and an excellent value when bought at the $299 or less sales price even with the Honeycomb OS.
However, it does not have ICS, and presently there is no concrete information as to when/if Samsung will make it available; and, in my opinion, ICS is a much better O.S, so availability of ICS for the SGT 7 plus is a very important consideration in deciding which tablet to buy.
In my opinion, holding prospective and recent customers in limbo in this manner, as Samsung is presently doing, is a terrible way for a company to do business. There is no doubt in my mind the SGT 7 plus is a better built tablet, with more features than the SGT 2 7", but if the SGT 7 plus does not receive the ICS it will be limited in utilization of the new software being developed, and therefore may be basically obsolete within a matter of a couple of months.
Personally, although I love mine, if considering purchasing today, I would wait another month or so to see how this scenario (ICS update) plays out.
Hope this is of help to you!
Cbill
For what its worth, Samsung HAS confirmed that we will get the update. Full stop. This was in an officially released press release, which can be found on Samsung Mobile's facebook wall.
Time frame, however, was never officially released except for the fact that the Note and the S2 would get the update first. This, to me, points to no ICS update until the Note gets its update.
Just my two cents on the ICS issue, because I keep seeing people acting like Samsung hasn't said any thing about our tablet, and they have.
Robyr:
Obviously you are not at a decision point of purchasing (or returning a recently purchased) SGT 7 plus.
O.K., lets say you are right when you opine Samsung will release ICS for the 7+. The next question is when?. Two week , two months, six months? Every week new 7" tabs, with ICS installed, and with new and improved features, are coming on the market. Given these circumstances, how long is an appropriate time to wait for a current operating system upgrade for your newly purchased (and only recently released to the market) Tablet.
I love my 7+, but I also want the smoothness, and increased versitility that ICS brings. I have it on my Transformer 102 wifi, and my Xoom wifi(contrary to what an earlier poster stated) and I even have it on my poor little ole Nook Color (CM9), and I do not feel those of us owning Tab 7+ 's, not tied to a carrier should have to wait any longer without some official indication of timing schedule from Samsung.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that the ICS operating system has been available for a considerable amount of time, and, I suspect, most, if not all of the 7 plus's that have been sold in this country were purchased in anticipation of upgrade to ICS in the" not-to-distant future" from their purchase date I know that certainly was the case with me. Instead of providing that upgrade in a timely manner, it appears Samsung chose to undercut their own customers by bringing to market a low cost, downgraded Tab 7, using ICS as a sales feature, while leaving their 7 plus customers out in the cold.
I have two days left to decide whether I will keep my 7 plus. It is not an easy decision. However, whichever way I decide, in the future I will always be very cautious about purchasing samsung phones or tablets.
Cbill
Decided to buy it, will be here tomorrow and can't wait!
All the other manufacturers are just as bad, if not worse than Samsung when it comes to upgrades of IS, and it has been a 'feature' of the phone market for as long a there have been phones capable of being upgraded.
The way I look at it is that the tablet still works exactly the same way now as it did when I bought it, irrespective of ICS's prevalence on other tablets. Sure it's nice to get a new OS, and I won't complain if ICS is released in a timely matter, but if honeycomb sucked that badly then it would have been a poor purchase in the first place.
But as for the OP, go enjoy your new tablet, and remember to feel sorry for the chumps with aching arms from holding their heavy iPads up all day =)
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Thanks guy, arrived yesterday and what a fantastic device. Alot better than the Son Table S, although I paid £270 for mine and noticed there was no IR?
No IR
There must be some variation in the models. I bought mine in the US in Feb from Best Buy for about £250, and it came with IR, and a cool piece of IR software for controlling TVs, DVD players, etc.
However, it appears Samsung have not changed model numbers despite the hardware change.
Thanks for the response.
I'm on GT-P621 and was a little confused about root.
Can someone point me to the correct root solution thread please?
Not a noob, but a newby to this device!
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Can someone point me to the correct root solution thread please?
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Try here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367249
G'day,
IcedCube here. I have in my possession a Galaxy Tab 7" and for the life of me, I love the little thing (I recently got a ICS Chinese Tab but it's a different kettle of fish. ). I carry it everywhere I go, as it's a beautiful size. Looked at the Galaxy Note, and went "Pfft. So what? My sexy little Galaxy Tab is what I want". And even if it's a little "fat", it feels like a tank. I've dropped from chest height onto a concrete floor by accident and it survived. Not a single scratch or crack in the screen. And it had it's protective OEM cover on it too.
Recently (okay, maybe one or two months ago), I got rid of my Iconia Tab A501 (3G). Kinda feel sorry I did that though, because as soon as I loaded the leaked ICS up on it, I felt the Tegra power. Anyway....
My friend recently got a Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9" and I was surprised at it's size and performance. So I guess I am a little envious; but whatever. I was wondering if you guys could help me suggest a tablet. I know I can search google myself, but here we go.
My local PC store has a ASUS Transformer TF201 I believe, but not sure if it's 3G or not. It looks pretty nice and that keyboard is awesome - replenishes vital juice while you type. I wish the Iconia had a keyboard for it, because that Dock connector was quite under-used...
Needs to support hardware video decoding. This helps me along boring car trips, I can load up my anime and have the H/W decode the x264 video stream, without my battery life being depleted quickly. I know Tegra video decoding got really good in ICS, but yeah.
Hardware accessories. Optional, but if the tablet has options (like keyboard) or other things that I can buy to add on to it if I wanted to, then that would give it bonus points.
I know how the Tegra 2 was a bit poor in comparison with other tablets, so if it's not nVidia, then I guess it might be interesting. I'll take a look at nVidia tabs too, so I'm not ruling them out.
Bonus points if there's custom ROMs for it. Even more bonus points if there's AOKP or CM9 for it.
On that note, unlocked bootloader. I'm looking at you, Acer.
At least 10" screen, unless the 8.9" screen has a high resolution. My chinese tab runs at 1024x600 and it's a little meh. I miss the 1280x800 screen that the Iconia Tab has. The screen should also be sharp, because I don't like blurry text.
3G Support. Because what's a tablet to me if I don't have WiFi access on the road? I know I can carry around a pocket WiFi hotspot but then you have to recharge it's batteries and all that crap. Also must be GSM since Australia doesn't have CDMA anymore (was killed off in 2005/2006).
At least 8GB or 16GB internal storage. Bonus points if the tablet has microSD slot, so I can slip in an external microSD filled up with my songs, etc.
Decent battery life. Don't want something that will conk out in less than half a day. Do note that I would be using it on the road, so it should be able to survive moderate web browsing use.
Price tag that won't give the wallet a heart attack. If possible, less than $500. I can go over this, but if I can get it under $500 (or even see if anything's up in the XDA marketplace.... now there's an idea...)
Alright. So that's the list. Over to you!
Hi!
I think, that a Acer Iconia A510 would be nice. That is the tablet i buy in the next few days, if it is available in germany.
I hope, that the display and the reaction time is good on it.
The power with a quadcore and enough of RAM in a 1280-panel would be very nice for everything and the price is OK for that.
I tested the Sony Tablet S-Tab and it was very very nice to handle. It was (only) a dualcore, but it was very smooth to surf and use all the apps. But now the hardware is to old and the price to high for that.
Greets from germany
Sony S-Tab, eh? I never heard of that. Sounds rather interesting - I guess I'll add that to the list of "random research" to do.
in the Design Aspect and style its Sony
samsung tablets r surely gaining momentum recently but i dont lik samsung designs and UI. if u hav taste in good designs and UI styles and special unique features i recomment Sony tablets ..they are awesome and iam sure u wil fall in love after evaluating a sony tablet.. just try on..
Sony tablet S is very nice very good.. pricing not much bad.. its worth.. soon getting ICS update.. its really fantastic piece of hardware..
galaxy tabs are rather feels lik boring aftr a while of use.. othr tabs just feels dull and there isnt anything special of its kind.. but i guarantee sony delivers everything u need..its truly of an impressive feel u ever get..
mahesh911 said:
samsung tablets r surely gaining momentum recently but i dont lik samsung designs and UI. if u hav taste in good designs and UI styles and special unique features i recomment Sony tablets ..they are awesome and iam sure u wil fall in love after evaluating a sony tablet.. just try on..
Sony tablet S is very nice very good.. pricing not much bad.. its worth.. soon getting ICS update.. its really fantastic piece of hardware..
galaxy tabs are rather feels lik boring aftr a while of use.. othr tabs just feels dull and there isnt anything special of its kind.. but i guarantee sony delivers everything u need..its truly of an impressive feel u ever get..
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Looked at this. Saw a WiFi-only one, looks pretty interesting. However, when I eBay'd a 3G version, the price tag broke my wallet. Also looked at the Sony P Tab, which has 3G and Dual 5.5" screens (looks like a clamshell). Price tag stung the wallet.
I also took a look at the Iconia Tab A510 model, and it looks like it'll suit the bill. The price tag is still is a bit of an issue, but I guess I can sell my Galaxy Tab on the XDA marketplace to get some cash.
I dont know the size but Asus Padphone?
You thought about the Nexus 7?
...sin you already have the tab. And they worked with Asus on it.
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ASUS PadFone: Possible, but looks like it might be out of my league. GSMArena states it's around 610 EUR, which means... according to XE.com... 754.420 Australian Dollar. That's some serious cash right there, and would also mean that it would replace my Galaxy Nexus...
Nexus 7: No 3G version I believe. Gotta have something that does 3G since it's impractical to carry around a modem in my pocket every single place I go.
Galaxy Note also looks like a worthy contender.
I'll probably get flamed but oh well. Get the new iPad. You might not be able to get the 3G version but you should be able to get the wifi model for your budget. If you've got a smart phone then most likely you can tether to it for 3G access providing you have a decent data bundle.
The screen outs any Android tablet. You'll get a better app choice, it's fast and runs extremely smooth.
I've got a Teg 2 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and my iPad destroys it in everything. Ok it doesn't have flash nor will Jelly Bean. No expandable storage, cloud storage fixes that, you can jailbreak it easily and get iFile and get the camera connector kit for a few dollars then you can hook up an SD card for those longer journeys.
It simply is the best tablet I've tried and now I see why it is widely popular. Jailbreaking it opens a ton of useful features.
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I'll probably get flamed but oh well. Get the new iPad. You might not be able to get the 3G version but you should be able to get the wifi model for your budget. If you've got a smart phone then most likely you can tether to it for 3G access providing you have a decent data bundle.
The screen outs any Android tablet. You'll get a better app choice, it's fast and runs extremely smooth.
I've got a Teg 2 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and my iPad destroys it in everything. Ok it doesn't have flash nor will Jelly Bean. No expandable storage, cloud storage fixes that, you can jailbreak it easily and get iFile and get the camera connector kit for a few dollars then you can hook up an SD card for those longer journeys.
It simply is the best tablet I've tried and now I see why it is widely popular. Jailbreaking it opens a ton of useful features.
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BTW, OP can also get iPad 2 since hes on a budget.
> new iPad
Ever since I know how the new iPads and such are made and how much effort you have to take into consideration when trying to repair it yourself, I wouldn't even consider one. Plus, I will not support a company that is trying to eliminate Android. Call me crazy, but ever since Android got into my blood, it's been calling my name every time I attempt to walk away from the OS.
I have had an WiFi only iPad in the past, and while it was very nice, I found when I went back to an Android device, I felt refreshed knowing I'm using something loved by the community and I have the freedom to root and install a custom ROM if I feel like it. On iOS, it's locked down and while you can regain root access by jailbreaks, can I download a completely different ROM on the iPad and use that? Nope.
I understand your views and I'm not flaming anyone, I'm just stating that I'm a Droid and I'm not going to let myself be corrupted by Apple. I've had my share of Apple devices in the past (owned 2 iPhone 3G, a MacBook, 2 PowerPC Mac Minis (one of which I still own) and an iPad), and yeah.
More suggestions welcome!
the best size tab I've seen is the 7.7
Tbh I am so annoyed that the nexus isn't a 7.7 ... it just looks too narrow at 7" and i'm contemplating whether to get one or not. 7.7 or Note IMO
Have a look at one, its the best size IMO
mojo22 said:
the best size tab I've seen is the 7.7
Tbh I am so annoyed that the nexus isn't a 7.7 ... it just looks too narrow at 7" and i'm contemplating whether to get one or not. 7.7 or Note IMO
Have a look at one, its the best size IMO
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I looked at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 and i must say, i think that hits the "I'm sold!" Button. The screen looks pretty good and the resolution is a nice 1280x800. 7" normally gives you a 800x480 screen resolution, and that is a little skinny if you hold it upright.
Get any if the ASUS Transformer Pads. You can get an older model that will definitely fit your budget and your needs. The transformer tablets have FAR AND AWAY the best battery life when equipped with the attachable keyboard. I believe it has 3G capability. It has a 1200x800 screen if I remember correctly. It has a Tegra processor depending on the model, and is upgradeable to ICS.
Or just get the LATEST Transformer and go slightly over budget, but it will satisfy all your other needs. (Tegra 3! )
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I decided to buy another Iconia Tab (A501), because I have used it in the past and I really liked it. Plus, the recent development with the Patched Bootloader means that I can run another OS on the tab if I wish to. So yeah.
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BTW, OP can also get iPad 2 since hes on a budget.
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This. I have the iPad 3 and love it, but I honestly wish I never sold my iPad 2. The gains from the screen are not worth the added thickness and weight, shorter battery life, ungodly charging time, and frame rate drops when gaming. Unfortunately now that I have used a tablet with such a high resolution, I couldn't go back to the iPad 2 even if I wanted to. I wish I never saw this screen :/ BTW,This is coming from an Android fan who just preordered the Nexus 7.
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile US, and I'm considering a P6200 to complement it (and use it as a secondary phone). The more obvious solution would probably be the Nexus 7, but I'm getting a lot for the extra $100 or so for a P6200 (keyboard dock option, expandable storage, rear camera with flash, phone capabilities, etc) and I can deal without Jelly Bean. I considered the 7.7, but its at least $100 more expensive and while it is the all-around better tablet, the P6200 will barely fit in my pocket as it is (and I don't want to have to have a bag for the 7.7). And yes, I know I'll only get 2G on T-Mobile until the spectrum roll-out finishes in 2013 - and that's fine by me.
Anyway, I currently have my Galaxy Nexus in tablet mode (ParanoidAndroid), and read that due to the lower resolution of the tablet, a lot of apps still display in phone mode - is this something that can be fixed (either through a mod or ROM) without breaking some important feature (like phone calls, camera, keyboard dock, etc)? I can live with the lower resolution (looked at a Tab 2 in store and thought it was fine), but not having phone apps on a tablet when I currently have the opposite.
Other than that, is there anything else I should know about the tablet - maybe a different tablet I should consider in the 7" size that takes phone calls? The Tab 2 seems to be a downgrade in just about every way and is about the same price so I haven't really considered it.
Go for nexus 7
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I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile US, and I'm considering a P6200 to complement it (and use it as a secondary phone). The more obvious solution would probably be the Nexus 7, but I'm getting a lot for the extra $100 or so for a P6200 (keyboard dock option, expandable storage, rear camera with flash, phone capabilities, etc) and I can deal without Jelly Bean. I considered the 7.7, but its at least $100 more expensive and while it is the all-around better tablet, the P6200 will barely fit in my pocket as it is (and I don't want to have to have a bag for the 7.7). And yes, I know I'll only get 2G on T-Mobile until the spectrum roll-out finishes in 2013 - and that's fine by me.
Anyway, I currently have my Galaxy Nexus in tablet mode (ParanoidAndroid), and read that due to the lower resolution of the tablet, a lot of apps still display in phone mode - is this something that can be fixed (either through a mod or ROM) without breaking some important feature (like phone calls, camera, keyboard dock, etc)? I can live with the lower resolution (looked at a Tab 2 in store and thought it was fine), but not having phone apps on a tablet when I currently have the opposite.
Other than that, is there anything else I should know about the tablet - maybe a different tablet I should consider in the 7" size that takes phone calls? The Tab 2 seems to be a downgrade in just about every way and is about the same price so I haven't really considered it.
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If you have the means go for nexus 7. If you say that you are getting a lot then think about it as an strategic investment, P6200 is almost (I may be wrong) no longer supported by samsung in terms of official updates and nexus 7 will have updates for long time (in comparison with P6200), also if you get bored with nexus 7, you can sell it easily.
The choice is still yours.....
If u have WiFi available then any tablet would allow u to make calls with groove IP. I have the p6210 WiFi only and use it all the time to make calls and text using groove IP. All u need is a Google voice account and you're good.
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darkshadowx07 said:
If you have the means go for nexus 7. If you say that you are getting a lot then think about it as an strategic investment, P6200 is almost (I may be wrong) no longer supported by samsung in terms of official updates and nexus 7 will have updates for long time (in comparison with P6200), also if you get bored with nexus 7, you can sell it easily.
The choice is still yours.....
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I don't doubt that the P6200 probably won't be supported much longer (if at all), but an official ICS is good enough for me - but only if I can get tablet apps like mentioned. And I've had two tablets in the past that were Wifi-only (Streak 7 and Nook Color) and loved them both, but found little use for them considering how often I wasn't near a WiFi connection (and didn't want to waste battery turning my phone into a hotspot instead of just using it instead). I can basically guarantee I'll have buyers remorse with the Nexus 7 for a variety of reasons excluding it being Wifi-only, as great of a tablet it is.
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If u have WiFi available then any tablet would allow u to make calls with groove IP. I have the p6210 WiFi only and use it all the time to make calls and text using groove IP. All u need is a Google voice account and you're good.
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But the issue is that I'm basically never at a WiFi connection longer than a few minutes outside of my house, and I use my phone much more outside of the house. Plus, I want to keep the same phone number without porting it over to Google Voice.
Yes, IM not sure how 6200 will work on TMobile, since they have their own tab plus, the T869.
If you can confirm someone has gotten voice and data to work on a 6200 on tmobile, I would say absolutly go for it. i would strongly recommend it. i had a tmobile streak 7 as well. The tab plus 6200 is such a fantastic all in one device.
Oh and you migh want to double check the frequenices of tab plus, and male sure you can get tmobile 3G or HSPA, edge speeds would not be good with this device.
May we ask where you are finding a 6200 for ~$350??
Cheers.
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Yes, IM not sure how 6200 will work on TMobile, since they have their own tab plus, the T869.
If you can confirm someone has gotten voice and data to work on a 6200 on tmobile, I would say absolutly go for it. i would strongly recommend it. i had a tmobile streak 7 as well. The tab plus 6200 is such a fantastic all in one device.
Oh and you migh want to double check the frequenices of tab plus, and male sure you can get tmobile 3G or HSPA, edge speeds would not be good with this device.
May we ask where you are finding a 6200 for ~$350??
Cheers.
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Since it's not a T-Mobile device, AFAIK T-Mobile has no way of knowing whether its a tablet or phone and therefore it should work with voice/text/data. And I know it'll work on EDGE, but that's fine honestly - most of the content I'll be viewing will be preloaded on a microSD card, I'm mostly using it so I can more comfortably view it than on my phone and without worrying about having two devices to carry. Again, I just have a bad habit of regretting WiFi tablets.
And I saw one Amazon seller with a few for that price, and I've seen a few on eBay (albeit used) for around that much lately.