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Let me preface my argument with an introduction: Why did I buy an iPhone to begin with? Short answer: It was a reaction to Windows Phone 7.
Long answer: As a big fan of Windows Mobile, I was pretty much devastated to hear all the news about WP7 a while back, in particular the fact that it has no backwards compatibility. Much of XDA didn't seem to share my pessimism, but me? I was extremely upset. At the time, I had wanted to purchase an HD2 after using the Fuze for so long, but I did not want to upgrade to WP7. That would have been fine, but then many companies began to drop support for WM6.X left and right in favor of developing for WP7 (including a few I really wish hadn't). I was also afraid that, by sticking to WM6.5, I was going to get left behind with an abandoned OS, so I came to a conclusion: If I had to switch to an entirely new OS (which was what I considered WP7), then I might as well switch to an already established one.
A lot of choices (WebOS, Maemo, Android, and, of course, iPhone) popped into my head, but what ultimately made me head to the iPhone was my absolutely certainty in one thing: That without apps, even the most powerful and beautiful smartphone would be useless. Alternatively, with apps, even a poor smartphone becomes great. The second part of this belief is the reason why I had used Windows Mobile for so long and it is also a principle I apply greatly to the iPhone.
By coincidence, about the time I came to a decision, my contract was up, and I was allowed to upgrade. I chose the iPhone 3GS. Now, about a little over one month after I purchased it, I am glad to say that my 'absolute certainty' turned out to be proven correct (at least to me). The iPhone, in time and with the right apps, has now become far more important to me than my Windows Mobile phone has ever been.
Admittedly, at first, I was nervous that I made an error. The first two weeks after owning an iPhone was a terror; everything was so damn restrictive. The simplest things that WinMo would let me do easily (such as renaming my files) was forbidden on the iPhone; to do anything like it, I had to use iTunes (which I hated), and even that came with restrictions. However, over time and with the help of the massive iPhone app store, I began to overcome each problem. Even better, each solution the iPhone presented ended up being far, far superior to what I used on WinMo.
I liked using Twitter on WinMo? Twitterrific is not only faster than any Twitter app I've ever used on WinMo, but it comes with more features and has much better usability. I liked using Tomtom on WinMo? MapQuest/CoPilot Live offered free voice navigation (they are the *only* free navigation software I have ever accepted as reasonable substitutes for the paid GPS solutions) and, of course, Tomtom plus numerous others are also available any time I want them. I liked reading using Adobe Reader LE on WinMo? 'Stanza' on the iPhone has so many more features with such a better interface that it's almost difficult to put into words.
And things continued in such a manner. As I had thought prior to buying it, the iPhone was able to replace every app I ever used on Windows Mobile with an equal or superior version. To make things all the better, the iPhone is just a crazy amount faster than any other smartphone I've ever used before.
Enough of the compliments, though. Truthfully, there is still a few things that my Fuze could do that my iPhone can't. Some examples? Well, my Fuze can get a pretty decent alarm clock app. Additionally, it can also tether pretty well. Unfortunately (for my Fuze, that is), the former issue will be gone upon iPhone OS 4's release, and the latter will no longer be an issue once I jailbreak my iPhone. If nothing else, if there is any issue that I can claim about the iPhone that is simply not possible to get around, it is the dependence upon iTunes.
In a way, I feel almost foolish. I had spent a good amount of time despising the iPhone because it lacked the hardware features that so many other Android/WinMo/Symbian smartphones seem to be get. While a WinMo phone was announced with a massive, WVGA screen with a 5MP camera; an iPhone was announced with the ability to copy and paste. Meh, I guess I can be happy that I'm wrong.
To get to the point and summarized my entire argument: the iPhone comes with a lot of restrictions compared to what I'm normally used to with Windows Mobile, but it more than made up for it with it's amazing app selection, the incredible speed of its OS, and it's admittedly elegant (I somehow hate this word with Apple products) design.
I had kept my Fuze as a backup in case things did not work out, but now, I find it unimaginable for me to go back to what I used before.
Glad you like your iphone.
The Game.
You all lost it.
Because i associate the iphone with the game.
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The Game.
You all lost it.
Because i associate the iphone with the game.
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I lost the game
jagger2k said:
Glad you like your iphone.
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Thank you!
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The Game.
You all lost it.
Because i associate the iphone with the game.
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Well, if losing makes me this happy, I hope I lose 'The Game' more often.
as long as you are happy
and the phone does what you want and needs, thats all that counts
I guess most are glad you like it. There should be no hate, everything has it's use.
I personaly had to work with an Iphone recently(well I had to help some overextended users), some of them had WinMo phones before. And I still found alot of good stuff from WinMo missing. Some features I never tought could miss on a recent phone...
Well for me the IPhone feels like a toy, my Touch Pro2 feels like a Phone/PDA. There's nothing wrong with toys, just another user group.
I lost the game but had to find it again with a hero when the slippery bugger flew out my top pocket on to the kitchen floor.
iPhone functionality just gets better and better over time shame battery life doesnt..
I can understand the freshness iPhone brings about to its new users, as I experienced using the phone for more than half of a year. For the first few months it felt really great, everything was just more than perfect, and I did not even think about using any phone other than iPhone.
But after six months, I changed my mind. My iPhone 3G was so boring, there is nothing left of the phone that could hold me back. And I decided to get a new HD2. Only after that, I asked myself a question "Why was I stuck with the boring iPhone for that long?"
Anyways, your needs and demand will decide which phone is the best for you.
Congrats
Congratulations
Not buying an Iphone is the best thing I ever did, and whats more I shall continue to not do it.
Oh and stay away from the ibeer, I hear those ihangovers are killers.
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If only the iphone came w/ a sliding KeyBoard!!!!
Thats what I thought when I bot the iphone 2G a few years back, I actually used it for close to a year before getting the HTC Tough Diamond. It was ok for 3 months before I got the SE Xperia X1. That was ok too until it broke down on me. After that I tried the Nokia E71 (which I tot was a brilliant phone btw). Used that for another 6 months before I got the iphone 3GS. But surprisingly the 3GS did nothing for me. I tot it was kinda boring as I did not see that much difference with the 2G (in terms of UI).
Now, I have an Android Supercharged Nexus one. And in all honesty, this is the best phone I have ever owned. The Brilliant UI, the Speed of this phone, the screen, the openess of the OS is really revolutionary if you ask me. I can safely say that I will be an android OS user for years to come.
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I personaly had to work with an Iphone recently(well I had to help some overextended users), some of them had WinMo phones before. And I still found alot of good stuff from WinMo missing. Some features I never tought could miss on a recent phone...
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Well, I did mention this in my post. Missing basic features is something that has been an issue with the iPhone since the 2G. I mean, even as I use my 3GS, I still wish it had the basic feature of being able to save .GIF images.
It is frustrating sometimes, but most issues aren't that overwhelming and I wasn't too disappointed because I knew coming into the iPhone that there would be issues such as this.
anarchyuk said:
iPhone functionality just gets better and better over time shame battery life doesnt..
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In all fairness, the iPhone's battery life seems comparable to every other smartphone I've used. In fact, it actually seems a bit better in comparison to my Fuze, which is amazing when you take into consideration some of the factors, such as the larger screen, faster processor, and, most noticeably, the fact that it only has a 1219mAh battery vs the Fuze's 1340mAh.
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Thats what I thought when I bot the iphone 2G a few years back, I actually used it for close to a year before getting the HTC Tough Diamond. It was ok for 3 months before I got the SE Xperia X1. That was ok too until it broke down on me. After that I tried the Nokia E71 (which I tot was a brilliant phone btw). Used that for another 6 months before I got the iphone 3GS. But surprisingly the 3GS did nothing for me. I tot it was kinda boring as I did not see that much difference with the 2G (in terms of UI).
Now, I have an Android Supercharged Nexus one. And in all honesty, this is the best phone I have ever owned. The Brilliant UI, the Speed of this phone, the screen, the openess of the OS is really revolutionary if you ask me. I can safely say that I will be an android OS user for years to come.
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Well, yes, the 3GS' UI is the same as the 2G's. All the iPhones uses the same OS, after all. UI changes tend to come with OS updates (regardless of which iPhone model you own) and, even then, changes are limited as, of course, Apple likes to keep their interface simple and familiar. The upcoming iPhone OS 4 is probably the biggest change in a while and even UI changes in that is limited.
Unfortunately, while I've used Android, my knowledge of that and the Nexus One is still limited. Nonetheless, I have read reviews and watched 'benchmarks' of the N1, and I still prefer the 3GS, but that is really just my preference. The N1 is a great phone, though.
P.S. I agree with you regarding the E71. It is a brilliant phone.
Im still using my 3GS btw and I use it for music, movies and games....for everything else I use my Nexus
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Im still using my 3GS btw and I use it for music, movies and games....for everything else I use my Nexus
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So.... you use your Nexus as a phone and the iPhone as an iPod Touch?
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So.... you use your Nexus as a phone and the iPhone as an iPod Touch?
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Hahah yeah..kinda...im also using my 3GS for my wifi tethering purposes as Ive got my unlimited data plan on that... so win-win I guess..
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Hahah yeah..kinda...im also using my 3GS for my wifi tethering purposes as Ive got my unlimited data plan on that... so win-win I guess..
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u know u can change the sim card , rite ?
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u know u can change the sim card , rite ?
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LOL of cos buddy...but I actually have 2 different sims (1 for my phone usage and another for an unlimited plan). So, I just use my 3GS as my router at home for my internet purposes hehehe.
I take my Nexus every where I go...I think overall the Nexus wins as its a more capable device compared to my iphone 3GS.
Naz
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Now, I have an Android Supercharged Nexus one. And in all honesty, this is the best phone I have ever owned. The Brilliant UI, the Speed of this phone, the screen, the openess of the OS is really revolutionary if you ask me. I can safely say that I will be an android OS user for years to come.
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Yes! You are very "open" in your java sandbox! But despite the missing kernel access in a way I agree. You can probably still customize enough for the "usual" needs, and so after the decline of Windows Mobile 6.x you might consider Android the last "geek friendly" OS....
Hi 8525Smart,
While I can agree that moving from winmo to iPhone is a good decision, have you stopped and think if your decision is still the best in light of the rich array of Android phones (such as the HTC Supersonic) available these days? The large size screen, a UI that is way better than winmo's and quite close to iPhone's, better notification system, attractive widgets, dual flash, nice camera, fast processor, ... Or are you just so happy with iPhone that you're not thinking of potentially even better phones? I'm not saying that Android is better as I don't know the answer yet myself. I'm just wondering if you have seriously given Android a chance and to find out as much as you can about it?
Hey all!
Not long time ago i've bought myself a kaiser, not knowing the driver issues. This phone is wayyyy too slow for me and i am going to sell it. I want to get a new one, but i just read that htc still doesn't deliver the correct drivers as with the devices with 1gHz qualcomm snapdragon processors. My friend bought a HTC HD2 and its nice and crisp with 2d, all i've noticed it runs d3d apps very slow, just like my kaiser did. I also read that it has problems with opengl games stuttering and being slow. i did not understand, does the turbo3d fix the issue, or does it just make it slightly better?
So can anyone please offer me some phones to think about?
I would really like to get a winmo 6.5 phone like hd2 or hd mini, also i wouldn't mind android but no nokia's or iphones please.
What do you think about hd mini, hd2, touch pro2? and about wildfire,desire,hero and nexus one?
I want a fully working device, not like my underperforming kaiser, i want all drivers, everything.
THANKS!
award982 said:
Hey all!
Not long time ago i've bought myself a kaiser, not knowing the driver issues. This phone is wayyyy too slow for me and i am going to sell it. I want to get a new one, but i just read that htc still doesn't deliver the correct drivers as with the devices with 1gHz qualcomm snapdragon processors. My friend bought a HTC HD2 and its nice and crisp with 2d, all i've noticed it runs d3d apps very slow, just like my kaiser did. I also read that it has problems with opengl games stuttering and being slow. i did not understand, does the turbo3d fix the issue, or does it just make it slightly better?
So can anyone please offer me some phones to think about?
I would really like to get a winmo 6.5 phone like hd2 or hd mini, also i wouldn't mind android but no nokia's or iphones please.
What do you think about hd mini, hd2, touch pro2? and about wildfire,desire,hero and nexus one?
I want a fully working device, not like my underperforming kaiser, i want all drivers, everything.
THANKS!
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Do you need a specific carrier?
I like my Captivate (Galaxy S phone for AT&T) but it has GPS issues, and AFAIK, all the Galaxy S phones do.
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Do you need a specific carrier?
I like my Captivate (Galaxy S phone for AT&T) but it has GPS issues, and AFAIK, all the Galaxy S phones do.
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nope i do not, i want to get non-branded
bump...anyone?
I had a kaiser for 4 years, then moved to the EVO on launch day. Couldn't be happier, phone is snappy as all hell, and haven't run into missing driver issues at all - the only thing HTC dropped the ball on with the EVO is capping the frame rate at 30 fps (which causes that stuttering), but if you're rooted, you can load a custom kernel that breaks the cap. Although I'm very familiar with the drivers that were missing from the kaiser, I haven't heard about any missing drivers on the EVO - care to provide a link?
Any of the galaxy s line of phones are good too - if you're coming from a kaiser, you may like the epic for the slide-out keyboard, bit they're all pretty much the same. These also have the top of the line performance for the 3d graphics that you mentioned. The 3d graphics on the EVO are pretty good (you only run into issues with some of the more demanding 3d games), but this is really where the galaxy s phones shine.
Unless you're really tied to wm6.5, I would stay away from it - it will be completely obsolete in just a few months when version 7 comes out. Unlike previous versions of wm, 7 won't be backwards compatible, so pretty soon there won't be any compatible apps for any wm6.5 devices. I would also say that any slowness or lagging that you saw on the hd2 was more than likely caused by wm, and not the chip. Give Android a shot - you won't be sorry. And stay away from the hero too, its not going to be upgraded anymire either - in fact you may want to stay away from any device without a 1ghz chip.
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Do you need a specific carrier?
I like my Captivate (Galaxy S phone for AT&T) but it has GPS issues, and AFAIK, all the Galaxy S phones do.
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The epic actually doesn't, and the gps issues on the other galaxy s phones are all supposed to be patched by the end of Sep.
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well i don't really like the looks of evo, what about desire? it runs droid 2.1, has a 1gHz processor, what do you think about it? What about hd2? i read somewhere that it has a 100% working port of android (1.6 i think, and i guess it will get an update to 2.2) also has a 1 gHz processor.
Anyways, i know hd2 supports multitouch, but i couldn't find anywhere if the desire does.
Now about galaxy S... i have bad memories about my samsung phones, its the only phone manufacturer i cant stand.
i guess its either hd2 (because i think its the best of the current models with wm) and some android model like desire or nexus one that has 1gHz processor.
i like the desire im actually thinking about picking one up real soon.
I have a desire. It's alright but its not brilliant. I got it because the carrier didn't offer a hd2. Android is very, very, very irritating. If you think it's linux - beware, it has nothing to do with it. I flashed a dozen roms, radios, rooted it, partitioned sd card. It either kills the sdcard or gets a huge memory leak. And it is not working properly. It is just not a market grade mobile os. It's for kids, women and enthusiasts. On top of that the xda section which deals with the desire is not very friendly.
Htc is about productivity, they were never about 3d graphics.
I don't play games but I would suggest you get HD2 or desire. The other htc models you mentioned are much slower, or think about a samsung, I don't like them but I hear the graphics are better
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I have a desire. It's alright but its not brilliant. I got it because the carrier didn't offer a hd2. Android is very, very, very irritating. If you think it's linux - beware, it has nothing to do with it. I flashed a dozen roms, radios, rooted it, partitioned sd card. It either kills the sdcard or gets a huge memory leak. And it is not working properly. It is just not a market grade mobile os. It's for kids, women and enthusiasts. On top of that the xda section which deals with the desire is not very friendly.
Htc is about productivity, they were never about 3d graphics.
I don't play games but I would suggest you get HD2 or desire. The other htc models you mentioned are much slower, or think about a samsung, I don't like them but I hear the graphics are better
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guess its hd2 or desire for me... any suggestions? is it worth buying a wm6.5 device even though wm7 is about to be released?
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guess its hd2 or desire for me... any suggestions? is it worth buying a wm6.5 device even though wm7 is about to be released?
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It's a bit hard, if you are used to winmo, you'll sure be irritated by the desire. Otherwise htc gave android some life, but expect difficulties. If you want winmo, you should probably wait for a mo7 device. I'm sure they will port it to the hd2 but it's not the same as the original device. That's why I got the desire. I will wait for several months after the mo7 launch and if it is any good I'll go for it. The desire is ok but it's just not what android fans claim it to be
Get a Galaxy S or a Nexus One, both amaaaaaaaaaaazing phones. Samsung got it right with the Galaxy S
And get away from Windows Mobile. I come from a Touch Pro 2 and it is a terrible, laggy OS. Android 2.1+ is where it's at
An HD2 (with Android running) or an Evo could be another option. The Desire is a slower phone than all of the other phones I've mentioned here.
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It's a bit hard, if you are used to winmo, you'll sure be irritated by the desire. Otherwise htc gave android some life, but expect difficulties. If you want winmo, you should probably wait for a mo7 device. I'm sure they will port it to the hd2 but it's not the same as the original device. That's why I got the desire. I will wait for several months after the mo7 launch and if it is any good I'll go for it. The desire is ok but it's just not what android fans claim it to be
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i can deal with android, i use linux on my pc so i don't think it will be a problem. Anyways, you think winmo7 will be ported to hd2? the thing is that it will probably locked down like that dam iphone, i want something that i can easily transfer music, videos and photos. Is it worth buying an hd2 and maybe use the port of android to it so i would still have winmo and android? i heard some builds are 100% compatible and working on hd2, like from nexus and desire, so maybe hd2 is a better option?
Though, i know that it has some weird problems with open gl. I know there is an app called turbo3d, can anyone tell me does it fix the problem completely or is it just something that makes it slightly better? if so, im getting an hd2. whaddayathink?
anyways i will round it up, i don't want a n1 phone, its either hd2 or desire becouse i like sense more than that stock bs that comes with n1 (i know there are ports of desire's rom to n1, but do they work just as good on the n1 as they do on the desire?).
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i can deal with android, i use linux on my pc so i don't think it will be a problem. Anyways, you think winmo7 will be ported to hd2? the thing is that it will probably locked down like that dam iphone, i want something that i can easily transfer music, videos and photos. Is it worth buying an hd2 and maybe use the port of android to it so i would still have winmo and android? i heard some builds are 100% compatible and working on hd2, like from nexus and desire, so maybe hd2 is a better option?
Though, i know that it has some weird problems with open gl. I know there is an app called turbo3d, can anyone tell me does it fix the problem completely or is it just something that makes it slightly better? if so, im getting an hd2. whaddayathink?
anyways i will round it up, i don't want a n1 phone, its either hd2 or desire becouse i like sense more than that stock bs that comes with n1 (i know there are ports of desire's rom to n1, but do they work just as good on the n1 as they do on the desire?).
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Well I had a touch pro with the soft ported from diamond2/pro2/hd2, then I got a diamond2. It was twice as fast with the same software and they were both winmo6,5 and both the infamous msm7xxx chipset. If you have this in mind you will easily conclude that the android port on HD2 will be pretty much a joke.
The nexus one is a bad joke. I don't intend to discuss samsung at all. The google software which is on the desire is again a bad joke, for example the gmail app crashes on the stock rom. What makes the desire a nice phone is the htc software inside, which is borrowed from winmo.
Don't mistake android with linux. I used linux before win7 came out. From my perspective linux is you. You can make it do whatever the hell you want. It can look the way you want. Android has nothing to do with linux. I rooted mine and if you think you can edit xorg.conf (doesn't exist anyway) or make the trackpad do whatever you want or customise it in the way you did with kde/gnome and compiz, just forget about it. It is just something which borrowed the name linux.
I'm not sure about the mo7 port but there are some brilliant guys in the mo section therefore it is a possibility.
You will be able to transfer stuff easily on the desire. With the apps, you won't get many because there is not enough space (for 10+). Yeahh they will say about apps to sd but what, either you transfer half the app, or you partition the sdcard and then it gets corrupted in 2 days which is sad if you don't have backup.
At the end you might be slightly better off with the desire as we don't know what is going on with mo7 and by the time it arrives the hd2 will be obsolete. The desire is a recent model so it will be ok for a year I guess
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Well I had a touch pro with the soft ported from diamond2/pro2/hd2, then I got a diamond2. It was twice as fast with the same software and they were both winmo6,5 and both the infamous msm7xxx chipset. If you have this in mind you will easily conclude that the android port on HD2 will be pretty much a joke.
The nexus one is a bad joke. I don't intend to discuss samsung at all. The google software which is on the desire is again a bad joke, for example the gmail app crashes on the stock rom. What makes the desire a nice phone is the htc software inside, which is borrowed from winmo.
Don't mistake android with linux. I used linux before win7 came out. From my perspective linux is you. You can make it do whatever the hell you want. It can look the way you want. Android has nothing to do with linux. I rooted mine and if you think you can edit xorg.conf (doesn't exist anyway) or make the trackpad do whatever you want or customise it in the way you did with kde/gnome and compiz, just forget about it. It is just something which borrowed the name linux.
I'm not sure about the mo7 port but there are some brilliant guys in the mo section therefore it is a possibility.
You will be able to transfer stuff easily on the desire. With the apps, you won't get many because there is not enough space (for 10+). Yeahh they will say about apps to sd but what, either you transfer half the app, or you partition the sdcard and then it gets corrupted in 2 days which is sad if you don't have backup.
At the end you might be slightly better off with the desire as we don't know what is going on with mo7 and by the time it arrives the hd2 will be obsolete. The desire is a recent model so it will be ok for a year I guess
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Maybe i should wait til wm7 is released, then maybe htc will release a new android phone that probably will have better software than n1 or desire, or maybe i will even buy something with wm7. OR MAYBE I SHOULD JUST BUY A FREAKING ASUS P535 that i used to have, witch worked without problems, all the apps worked fine, 3d was a blessing from the god itself. Damn the stupid qualcomm. I am actually very afraid of buying again from HTC. I had such high hopes for the kaiser when i bought it and i am afraid of buying some piece of **** again so im researching all the dirt i can find on the best smartphones.
Thanks freakzone for your time on helping me, i really appreciate it.
edit: i actually thought about customization of android like ubuntu. just imagine a 3d desktop cube on a tiny screen like that
No cube here. The desire is quite fast, but I don't use 3d. Android is alright, I only installed several apps like file browser and satnav, it just is not the magic stuff everyone claims it to be. Why don't you go to a store and play with it for a while, thats what I do. If you like it get it
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No cube here. The desire is quite fast, but I don't use 3d. Android is alright, I only installed several apps like file browser and satnav, it just is not the magic stuff everyone claims it to be. Why don't you go to a store and play with it for a while, thats what I do. If you like it get it
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i guess its either hd2 or desire for me, will go and play with those later today and see witch is better for me. I am so nostalgic about the good old times 2 years ago, having a p535 from asus was the best thing ever, it did everything i wanted it to do, it was fast and very rarely i had to restart it. I think i am going to get the hd2, even though i would like a hardware joypad but i think i can live with touch I'm just too sad that everything these days looks like a bloody iphone: nokias,htc's,samsungs, everything... i just can't stand it! i miss the good old days of wm with a square profiled pda with good, strong hw buttons and wm5
i had a samsung moment until it bricked when i tried to root it and now i got an htc hero love it
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I have a desire. It's alright but its not brilliant. I got it because the carrier didn't offer a hd2. Android is very, very, very irritating. If you think it's linux - beware, it has nothing to do with it. I flashed a dozen roms, radios, rooted it, partitioned sd card. It either kills the sdcard or gets a huge memory leak. And it is not working properly. It is just not a market grade mobile os. It's for kids, women and enthusiasts. On top of that the xda section which deals with the desire is not very friendly.
Htc is about productivity, they were never about 3d graphics.
I don't play games but I would suggest you get HD2 or desire. The other htc models you mentioned are much slower, or think about a samsung, I don't like them but I hear the graphics are better
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I have no idea how you think Android isn't "market grade"
Especially with sense, it's the best thing out there. You can't think the nearly 8-year-old WinMo 6 is BETTER can you? The HD2 hardly has ANY games on it, Android has few. iPhone is the only really good mobile phone gaming platform, but I'm betting on Android catching up.
The best phone you can get is definitely a Nexus One. If not, get a Desire (or equivalent Incredible) or the Samsung Galaxy S.
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I have no idea how you think Android isn't "market grade"
Especially with sense, it's the best thing out there. You can't think the nearly 8-year-old WinMo 6 is BETTER can you? The HD2 hardly has ANY games on it, Android has few. iPhone is the only really good mobile phone gaming platform, but I'm betting on Android catching up.
The best phone you can get is definitely a Nexus One. If not, get a Desire (or equivalent Incredible) or the Samsung Galaxy S.
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I agree with Android being market grade, but disagree with the general hate fir WinMo i've seen in this thread.WinMo is a dinosaur, but dinosaurs are still big and powerful creatures.
I personally don't like suggesting the N1 because of the problems i've heard of with the soft keys being hard to hit. And (not a very big deal) it only registers two points of contact iirc. My thing is if im going to pay money, i want the best, not something that is that limited.
I like the desire though. I wish more phones would have actual buttons. Between the Desire and the HD2, id get the Desire.
And i doubt the OP has issues with WinMo if he's been using it for years and us considering getting another WinMo phone.
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I think this is the first proper review.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-review-23153699/
Do the people with the phone already, agree with the conclusions drawn?
freedirk said:
I think this is the first proper review.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-review-23153699/
Do the people with the phone already, agree with the conclusions drawn?
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Seemed pretty fair and balanced. Glad to see that pics are better with this handset over some other HTC ones. Little bummed about the tearing int he video - but I imagine that might be something that a software update might address. Browser seems fine if a little different than the samsung when zooming flash. Battery life looked ok - but what surprised me was that they have great battery life on their SGS II. That seems to be one of the most dominant complaint threads on their boards.
All in all I feel better about looking to purchase one when it comes out in the states.
Damn.
I'm thinking more and more of getting the SG2 now instead due to lack of dev support and this review is swaying it more too. The SG2 is a much better hardware package but i prefer the design of htc and i prefer sense to touchwiz.
I can comment on TouchWiz vs. Sense. I got an SGS2 because I couldn't wait for the Sensation to come to the States to evaluate it. I had Sense on my former HTC phones and was expecting TouchWiz to be kind of the same thing. Sense is an environment with apps tightly integrated whereas TouchWiz is really just a Samsung launcher. I used launchers on my last two phones which were vanilla Android so TouchWiz's more Android feel felt comfortable. People looking for HTC's approach toward common apps being front-ended by Sense and tightly integrated would be disappointed with TouchWiz. Not that TouchWiz is bad and a lot of Samsung's proprietary apps and hubs are really good, it's just a very different approach.
"Sensation as the consumer’s phone and the Galaxy S II as the Android fan’s phone"
this review is that whas i need.
i dont intresting sg2. i only intresting or sensation is beter that desire in all aspekts ( screen, power, call quality, camera, sound in 3.5mm and laudnes in speeker, battery u.t.t)
Sensation is beter? i think it is.
hope for root, bet some time i cen live without that
p.s in latvian phone cen wait 2-3 weaks after unbranded realise in eorope. need wait some time
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"Sensation as the consumer’s phone and the Galaxy S II as the Android fan’s phone"
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i disagree. sg2 is just too ugly and iphone'esque (even if Apple copied their original design from samsung)
HTC are a better all rounder i think
Well Barff1984, I do agree with you that in the all-rounder category the Sensation is the winner, however in terms of "Android Fans Phone" I think it's a bit inconclusive:
On one hand you've got the fact that the SGS2 was released earlier, with its bootloader opened wide with the sound of devs cheers, incredible specs and whatnot. Is it the easy fan choice? Well;
On the other hand: Some people (myself included, hate me if I sound a bit biased) prefer HTC's approach - albeit slightly weaker, when it comes down to the experience of actually using it - the UI, the sense of quality in your hand is a key factor.
And you know what? I think that's another way of being an Android fan - sticking with the things you like, and not fitting into an iFruity pattern. That's the beauty of Android - you've always got choice, whether its hardware or software. If you don't like it - change it. Because you can.
Plus I can smell the dev gods are cooking delicious stuff for us Hardcore HTC guys, and just because Samsung got a head start doesn't mean the Sensation is DOA.
i agree with you trek -
I don't think you can say either phone is better, they both had good points, both had bad points...
but the reason i love android - WE are left with a choice of which one WE prefer !
i happen to prefer better build and feel of htc and sense over touchwiz.
Barff1984 said:
i disagree. sg2 is just too ugly and iphone'esque (even if Apple copied their original design from samsung)
HTC are a better all rounder i think
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I think you've mis-read the quote slightly.
I think it's to do with the sensation having a more polished interface which will make it sit better with casual users. Whereas people that have researched the phones a great deal will possibly prefer the Galaxy2 for its unlocked bootloader and arguably better hardware.
Of course as slashgear also stated,this generalisation does nothing for either phone as both are power houses.
P.s. I also realise that the vast majority of users here have researched both phones and have alot of knowledge, hence the reason we're here. ;-)
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It's a never-ending debate.
As long as someone is happy with any of the phone, I would say job well done from the part of the manufacturer/OEM. And I believe the review did it's best not to raise the fanboy-ish sentiments that we have.
I am absolutely sure that Engadget review will be provocative/controversial (it's always their goal to generate maximum comments). Gsmarena/Anandtech seems to be much more detailed and objective.
Phil750123 said:
i agree with you trek -
I don't think you can say either phone is better, they both had good points, both had bad points...
but the reason i love android - WE are left with a choice of which one WE prefer !
i happen to prefer better build and feel of htc and sense over touchwiz.
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What i just hate is that HTC failed on a few VERY simple issues,
if they did better on those points, they would easy have a winner.
1) More RAM and internal storage
2) Non signed bootloader
3) Hardware accl browser
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i disagree. sg2 is just too ugly and iphone'esque (even if Apple copied their original design from samsung)
HTC are a better all rounder i think
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+1, put together, SGS2 is ugly look.
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I think the review was good. I saw some complaints about it being too superficial but I think it serves its purpose and was unbiased pointing out the benefits and cons giving each phone its due (I don't care that it was more of a comparative review as that's basically how people on here treat it). I also hope the GSMArena one comes out soon. They tend to have very detailed review going into all aspects of the phones. I'm still quite sure I'm getting it but I like to be aware of all the "bad" stuff before I get something (this is also nice because often the bad doesn't turn out to be as bad as I thought it would be making me pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed )
MartijnMM said:
What i just hate is that HTC failed on a few VERY simple issues,
if they did better on those points, they would easy have a winner.
1) More RAM and internal storage
2) Non signed bootloader
3) Hardware accl browser
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I agree, minor steps for big improvements.
1) Think the ram is the big issue, specially when sense is going to take up
more ram then touchwiz (im guessing here but im pretty certain it be the
case)
2) Im sure "hoping" that this will be by passable, I've read a detail
article about this stating, it not as bad as people believe. I dont understand
it fully but as most people on here, i just want custom roms!
3) Would be nice, but not on my top list as personally im not a big
web broswer on my mobile. (Although might change when i get a bigger screen
and faster web browsing )
Im leaving work early to fly down to the vodafone shop and see if
they have one in stock - bar that to phones 4 u shop opposite so
hopefully I'll be able to talk from first hand experience!
Hmm, I wonder when we'll start seeing reviews with proper GPS testing. Not comments like "the gps is fine, it locked really fast!" but showing some tracks and proof of decent accuracy and consistency. That would help avoiding fiascos like the one with the Galaxy S.
I'm curious about the Sensation but will definitely not buy another toy without clearing this out first... can't get lost.
did anyone notice sample camera picture taken by sensation at slashgear review have soft image on left and sharp on the right?
ignore the already out of focus background flower pic, other street and tree pictures it doesn't seem like depth of field, anyone got the device on hand can confirm or share your picture please.
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Hmm, I wonder when we'll start seeing reviews with proper GPS testing. Not comments like "the gps is fine, it locked really fast!" but showing some tracks and proof of decent accuracy and consistency. That would help avoiding fiascos like the one with the Galaxy S.
I'm curious about the Sensation but will definitely not buy another toy without clearing this out first... can't get lost.
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True, I'd like to know this. But no tech site, or youtube review has brought up the GPS issue, which I'm sure they would when they did their review.
I did hear (made a poll), on androidforums, that a few had these problems but all of them, now, have basically ironed themselves out. Really odd, but a few days later virtually everyone reported back that it fixed itself. I know your looking for hard evidence but I just thought I'd share what I know.
ratchetnclank said:
Damn.
I'm thinking more and more of getting the SG2 now instead due to lack of dev support and this review is swaying it more too. The SG2 is a much better hardware package but i prefer the design of htc and i prefer sense to touchwiz.
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Well, Its kinda just got out on contract... wait for it to be off-contract and published in the USA and more :O
http://www.slashgear.com/sensation-vs-galaxy-s-ii-does-qhd-make-a-difference-24154010/
Addition stuff about the screens. Looks like for games its the SGII for movies/webbrowsing/text based stuff - Sensation.
ok so i have been a faithful android fan since the first droid, then i got incredible on verizon, loved them both but hated battery life of inc, hated slow updates but i fixed that with cyanogen mod. so i hate the skins the manufacturers add to the phone cause it slows them down and makes them slower to get updates, i love android stock expierience, but verizon doesnt really offer a decent phone with that. the problems i have with android are the lack of polish and overall not the greatest user expierience and inconsistant behavior in the os lol. i changed to a iphone because a lack of good android phones and i like the consistant aproach apple took even tho i dont like apple or the iphone all that much. so ive been eyeing wp7 for a while. i like the ui, but verizon is just now getting its first wp7 phone the htc trophy, not the best phone, but is wp7 worth it? give me some advantages and stuff i would like, to help me decide if i should get it. also i just bought a dx2 and talk about a buggy and inconsistant phone, i cant handle the constant freezing and unsmoothness feeling of the overall os on the phone, so im gonna return it, just trying to decide to get a wp7 or a dif android phone. thanks fellas
Stick with android and get samsung galaxy s 2.
don't get a WP7 phone until the 2nd gen devices rolling out and mango update is available.
Well i would get the sgs2 but verizon doesnt have it lol. Verizon has no good android phones right now, i have the dx2 and it pretty much sucks haha
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ok so i have been a faithful android fan since the first droid, then i got incredible on verizon, loved them both but hated battery life of inc, hated slow updates but i fixed that with cyanogen mod. so i hate the skins the manufacturers add to the phone cause it slows them down and makes them slower to get updates, i love android stock expierience, but verizon doesnt really offer a decent phone with that. the problems i have with android are the lack of polish and overall not the greatest user expierience and inconsistant behavior in the os lol. i changed to a iphone because a lack of good android phones and i like the consistant aproach apple took even tho i dont like apple or the iphone all that much. so ive been eyeing wp7 for a while. i like the ui, but verizon is just now getting its first wp7 phone the htc trophy, not the best phone, but is wp7 worth it? give me some advantages and stuff i would like, to help me decide if i should get it. also i just bought a dx2 and talk about a buggy and inconsistant phone, i cant handle the constant freezing and unsmoothness feeling of the overall os on the phone, so im gonna return it, just trying to decide to get a wp7 or a dif android phone. thanks fellas
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WP7 is IMO way way under developed. If you get one, you will probably miss your Android a ton. I suggest stick with Android for another year or so, maybe then you can try WP7 when it's worth trying.
Bravo, do u have a wp7 device??
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Do they have a 30 day trial period like sprint? I had an android device and was going to get an EVO or Epic but decided to try the Arrive with WP7. I was thinking that I would probably give it back and stay with android, but I ended up keeping the Arrive and am very happy.
There are some features lacking with WP7 but its definitely a good system.
"the problems i have with android are the lack of polish and overall not the greatest user expierience and inconsistant behavior in the os lol"
Like you that is alot of what I felt about android.
I like tweaking and fooling around with just about every piece of electronics I get my hands on, but sometimes I just want things to work... like my phone...
Anyways, if you like using your phone like a computer then keep android if you want it to work like a phone with computing abilities then get WP7
Nrk112. Yea there is a 15 day trial period so i have over a week left, yea im to the point where i just want the phone to work and be smooth. That is the main thing i enjoyed about iphone but i just hate apple so i got rid of it haha. Is it fast and smooth always??
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wp7 is one of the smothest OSes I have ever used (as smooth and consistent as any iProduct you will get). And it is very fast! You will always get stock experience on windows phone 7 and updates are very fast if u don't get a samsung phone (or an AT&T) however, updates are pushed by microsoft rather than the carriers or the OEMs. If u get a windows phone 7, u will not regret it!
The lack of multitasking isnt a big problem? It looks crazy smooth in videos ive seen, wish mango was out already and verizon would get a little better choice than the trophy hahah
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kregstrong said:
ok so i have been a faithful android fan since the first droid, then i got incredible on verizon, loved them both but hated battery life of inc, hated slow updates but i fixed that with cyanogen mod. so i hate the skins the manufacturers add to the phone cause it slows them down and makes them slower to get updates, i love android stock expierience, but verizon doesnt really offer a decent phone with that. the problems i have with android are the lack of polish and overall not the greatest user expierience and inconsistant behavior in the os lol. i changed to a iphone because a lack of good android phones and i like the consistant aproach apple took even tho i dont like apple or the iphone all that much. so ive been eyeing wp7 for a while. i like the ui, but verizon is just now getting its first wp7 phone the htc trophy, not the best phone, but is wp7 worth it? give me some advantages and stuff i would like, to help me decide if i should get it. also i just bought a dx2 and talk about a buggy and inconsistant phone, i cant handle the constant freezing and unsmoothness feeling of the overall os on the phone, so im gonna return it, just trying to decide to get a wp7 or a dif android phone. thanks fellas
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With the Mango update, WP7 will be incredibly more attractive. It's already the smoothest, cleanest system available. It has excellent games, and Zune is superior. Android is a very nice system...depending on the brand you buy, of course...but is pales in comparison the heavy-hitting media capabilities of WP7. Android has great media capabilities but it can't compare to Zune and XBOX. WP7 is also much more reliable than Android, now that NoDo has arrived.
With all of the outstanding features to arrive with Mango, there just won't be any choice any longer. WP7 will be the only real player. I was always more fond of Bing voice nav, which I used in WinMo 6.5, than Google nav, and when Mango brings Bing voice nav to WP7, there will no longer be anything the other systems have over WP7. It will also have the world's best multitasking....or app switching for some people. Android has multitasking and app switching, but there really is no way to single out the apps to kill them easily. You can install auto killers and Android has a quick app switcher built in, but the best you can make Android won't compare to WP7's set up.
Hang on till Mango gets here and then do some testing.
I doubt that Verizon will be getting any new WP7 devices soon seeing that lack of attention that Verizon gives to WP. So if you need a phone now, get the Trophy and you'll get the Mango update.
If you are not in a rush though, you may hold out to see if Verizon is releasing any new Windows Phone. Perhaps hell will freeze over!
Instead of taking someone's else word or opinion about WP7, why don't you hit a store or a friend and go try one out for a few minutes... it will make a ton of a difference.
Oh no.... here we go again.
Closing this now before the inevitable happens.
Apologies to the op for what may seem to be an unfair closure of your thread but these ones never end well.
There are a good number of threads on this subject you can search for and you'll see what I mean.
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Im looking into picking a new phone, but like most of us I have a hard time deciding whats better to get after having the phone I thought was the greatest. So I Want to see what phone to get next, or what devices to consider, as well see what features to look for next, I was just happy when the Droid inc (1GHz processing power, 8MP Cam, and 512 MBs RAM) was announced and I still am when I look at and think about it. SO my question to the entire Community, What is the best phone, OS, ROM, Features, and why?
Phone EX: Nexus one, HTC EVO, HTC Touch Pro, LG Quantum
Custom built EX: HTC HD2 Running Windows phone 7,
Motorola Droid Running (Custom ROM or Stock)
or even a concept phone; 10MP Cam, Android 2.2, dual core, qwerty keyboard, etc.
Current:
PhoneInc, ROM:Incredible RMX 2
Tablet:Asus Transformer, ROM:Revolver
the only 2 phones worth considering are:
SGS2
Nexus 3
or wait another months for the next best phones to come out, but by then you can wait another 3 months, and then even better phones are around the corner
i made a spec sheet for iOS/Android/Windows phones in my sig.
please feel free to check it out and contribute if you can.
thanks.
hopefully this will help you in getting the right device this holiday season.
AllGamer said:
the only 2 phones worth considering are:
SGS2
Nexus 3
or wait another months for the next best phones to come out, but by then you can wait another 3 months, and then even better phones are around the corner
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lol I see your point, but there's nothing i'm that excited about. I do like the HTC rhyme, (if it wasn't purple). What are the specs on the Nexus 3?
aohus said:
i made a spec sheet for iOS/Android/Windows phones in my sig.
please feel free to check it out and contribute if you can.
thanks.
hopefully this will help you in getting the right device this holiday season.
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Thank you, I like the looks of the Sensation XE, But I'm in the US how can I get it on verizon? if you know, and that HTC Holiday, but again, verizon.
the Nexus 3 is basically SGS2 but with a 5MP camera instead of 8MP, but improved screen SAMOLED+ HD 720p resolution
tech spec for the SGS2 are everywhere
best phone
Hi
according to gsmarena is SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
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because it aggregates new processor technology bringing 2 cores concept.
reinaldo4253 said:
Hi
according to gsmarena is SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
h t t p : / / w w w .g s m a r e n a . c o m /samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-3621.php[/url]
because it aggregates new processor technology bringing 2 cores concept.
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Let me help you out with that mate...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-3621.php
Incidentally, to make it easier for people (till you get enough posts to post links), just change the http to hxxp. That seems like a commonly accepted way of posting links that aren't links (and it's easier for people to correct in their address bar!)
Nexus 3 is what I'm waiting for.. .iphone 5 is sounding real sexy too at the moment. Seems like it will be the thinnest phone once it releases.on top of its sexy teardrop all aluminum design reminiscent of the MacBook air from what I've read (all speculations)Too bad ios sucks!
Sticking to android and probably give wp7 a try once better phones are out.
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But giving up my 8MP cam and I've never really been to big a Samsung anything fan. But I do like the gorilla glass idea. And what are the best rumered specs about the Iphone 5 even thou I probably won't buy it?
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As much as I dislike HTC, the HTC titan is in a league of it's own as far as phones go. With processing power, it's not the absolute best. The thing is though, that only matters on an OS like android where it will only run remotely decent even with a top-end processor. Aside from that it sports a massive screen, ffc for video chat, solid body, up to 32 gigs internal, and most importantly windows phone 7. I'm sorry, but I don't buy high-end hardware to put an OS on it that was and is intended for crap hardware. My OS needs to keep up with me. Can I customize my phone to the point that it is unstable, slow, but reflects me? No. I can add numerous tiles with all kinds of pictures on a dynamic UI which totally beats a background image for me. Android is great if customization is your ONLY concern, for quality, speed, social integration, gaming,business, media, and pretty much anything else you'd be ripping yourself off if you went any way but the windows phone 7 way.
iphone5，next google phone
I honestly think that the Samsung Galaxy S II is the best phone out there, befor i bought it i read tons of comparisons and articles
Nexus prime with ics !!!!!!
Nexus Prime is supposed to be coming out in the next 2 weeks WITH ICS!!!!
I would personally want the MIUI phone / M1 but I doubt it will make it out of China.
abhi63 said:
Nexus Prime is supposed to be coming out in the next 2 weeks WITH ICS!!!!
I would personally want the MIUI phone / M1 but I doubt it will make it out of China.
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Whats the MIUI phone? the phone I used to want (though probably outdated now) was called the first else phone, and it was only sold in the middle east, but everyone seems to be on samsung now, I just cant be excited about that, esp since everything I would buy from them usually looks alot better than it preforms. The two phones that top my list now thou would be the Sensation XE, and the Rhyme(almost to the point where the color doesn't even matter)
But I have heard alot of good about the nexus prime. I just feel like if I actually knew how how to program it would be of that much more use to me.
You must smoke crack
z33dev33l said:
As much as I dislike HTC, the HTC titan is in a league of it's own as far as phones go. With processing power, it's not the absolute best. The thing is though, that only matters on an OS like android where it will only run remotely decent even with a top-end processor. Aside from that it sports a massive screen, ffc for video chat, solid body, up to 32 gigs internal, and most importantly windows phone 7. I'm sorry, but I don't buy high-end hardware to put an OS on it that was and is intended for crap hardware. My OS needs to keep up with me. Can I customize my phone to the point that it is unstable, slow, but reflects me? No. I can add numerous tiles with all kinds of pictures on a dynamic UI which totally beats a background image for me. Android is great if customization is your ONLY concern, for quality, speed, social integration, gaming,business, media, and pretty much anything else you'd be ripping yourself off if you went any way but the windows phone 7 way.
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Djay1809 said:
Im looking into picking a new phone, but like most of us I have a hard time deciding whats better to get after having the phone I thought was the greatest. So I Want to see what phone to get next, or what devices to consider, as well see what features to look for next, I was just happy when the Droid inc (1GHz processing power, 8MP Cam, and 512 MBs RAM) was announced and I still am when I look at and think about it. SO my question to the entire Community, What is the best phone, OS, ROM, Features, and why?
Phone EX: Nexus one, HTC EVO, HTC Touch Pro, LG Quantum
Custom built EX: HTC HD2 Running Windows phone 7,
Motorola Droid Running (Custom ROM or Stock)
or even a concept phone; 10MP Cam, Android 2.2, dual core, qwerty keyboard, etc.
Current:
PhoneInc, ROM:Incredible RMX 2
Tablet:Asus Transformer, ROM:Revolver
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Stay away from WM7 on an HD2 if you want the card slot to survive. It will kill the card slot. Mine, I can run WM7, but if I try to flash Android or other ROMs, the card slot won't work. WM7 runs from the card in the slot excessively and wears it out. WM7 just isn't worth it.
Imho I have used the Samsung epic and also the EVO 4g (not the 3d) and have noticed that the EVO is by far the best one out of the two... Also the most customizable in the sense if being able to switch from sense 3.0 to 3.5 and to asop...
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b1337 said:
You must smoke crack
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not at all, I just know my stuff.
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not at all, I just know my stuff.
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well the only exception to your analogy is the sgs 2 or a totally stock/cyano/miui rom, according to my experience from my hd2 and captivate days. If it's sense, you can expect it to lagg, even when you have nothing on your homescreen.
That aside, I have to agree, WP7 is a great piece of work. Micro created a smooth, simple UI/OS that competes with apple in all those terms and maybe even better in some aspects. What Micro is "copying" from Apple is making phones that run on the "same specs". And the advantage to that is any app placed on the market will be able to run on all WP7 phones, unlike some android apps, which will work on a certain phone but not another.
What i don't like however is that really, all of them look the same (UI/appearance). It makes me feel like i don't have anything special. Which is the same with an iPhone(a stock one atleast). Atleast with android I can customize my status/notificaton bar, change my launcher layout/appearance, change certain effects e.g. overscroll glow to bouncy, change my lockscreen, change my icons, change my settings/menu appearance, which overall means i can have a phone that's different than the next or atleast appears different. (note also the lagg that you state coming from all this customization was atleast non apparent to me in my hd2 days, and for me now in my sgs 2)
Now I may be wrong about WP7 as i haven't even checked on the hacks/customization available since my HD2 days running WP7.
b1337 said:
You must smoke crack
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I don't think so, you obviously have not done a genuine unbiased eval.