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I need a new phone.
I have no brand allegiance to any OS or manufacturer, and I just ended my contract with T-mobile in the US.
If I want to stick with T-mo, I'm stuck between a prepaid (flex) and a 2 year plan. If I do get this plan, I will get an HD2 or HD7.
I'm in the US for approx. 7 months and then I leave for major vacations. Sprint/Verizon CDMA may not be for me.
I'm also looking at the iPhone 4, but the rumors that a new one will be released soon has kept me from buying it.
I currently use an E71.
What do you suggest?

Get the nexus s. its the best phone for t mobile and won't ever disappoint you for however long you have it
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hTC all the way!!
Leo is a fantastic option as still as good as any newer device

agreed, nexus s. best phone out right now.

Scratch that...its the best phone out there, not just for t-mobile
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check the poll right now and you will see what is the best phone according to XDA members
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No doubt, NEXUS S!

Wow, the Nexus S is that popular huh?
I forgot to mention, I'll be using the phone for these things primarily, aside form communication-
Music, and integration with iTunes. I want fast access to my music. I think the iPhone is best for this category.
A few important apps. I don't need an appstore with 12381123 apps, I just need a few - namely business card apps, password apps, and other basic stuff. Don't care about phone games.
I'll go look up the Nexus S.

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Best starter android phone?

So I'm looking to get my first android powered device , my question is what do you guys suggest to be a good phone for my first experience? Looking at spending around $500 usd budget (will go over for something I really like, but no $800 desire hd stuff lol), and don't want something "out of date" or have a poor build quality.
here is some info to go off of:
-I am not eligible for a upgrade so will pay retail
-In the us
-at&t carrier, no data, so any at&t specific phones are out of the question
-have wifi in vehicle and anywhere I go (one main reason I don't have a data plan)
-like a big screen and or keyboard since my hands aren't exactly small
Thanks in advance for any help. Also one more question that I haven't found the answer for, I saw a marketplace while signing up but cant view, what are the requirements to view?
p.s. I think this might belong in the Q and A section...
my first smartphone was the palm pixi a fantastic OS but then went to htc hero id say thats now a beginners phone
now im with an epic
You could probably score a used Nexus One on eBay or Craigslist for $500.
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You could probably score a used Nexus One on eBay or Craigslist for $500.
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That is one thing that I've thought about, I've also looked at the htc desire, its a little more then other phones but i like the design and the extra ram it offers.
I think nexus one. Just my .02
Thanks for the responses, I guess I need to start hunting for a good condition nexus one. Am I correct for saying that you can not buy them new anymore?
if you can get one (UK only afaik), the Orange San Francisco seems to be a good phone to start with, at about £90.
It's the ZTE Blade, and has an HDPI (high res) screen and reasonable CPU etc.
Worth a look if you can lay your hands on one.
zte blade has a nice exterior, probably one of my favorites so far . But the processor seems a little slow (clock wise), anyone have any experience with how well the Qualcomm MSM7227 competes with say a snapdragon or samsung hummerbird cpu?
id get a nexus one or desire, there not too expensive anymore and have ample power to keep up with technology for the next couple of years, the hero is good but its starting to show its age now, it depends what you want, the nexus one is better built imo but the desire has more ram and an optical trackpad instead of a trackball
Just remember if you do purchase a T-Mobile Nexus One - and you end up getting a data plan down the line.. your stuck on Edge forever while on AT&T's network.
There are AT&T Nexus One's out there.. but your going to be paying a premium.
AndroHero said:
id get a nexus one or desire, there not too expensive anymore and have ample power to keep up with technology for the next couple of years, the hero is good but its starting to show its age now, it depends what you want, the nexus one is better built imo but the desire has more ram and an optical trackpad instead of a trackball
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Is the trackball like blackberrys dumb trackball? I hated that thing with a passion when I tried to use it (even though touch screen means I will rarely use it). I have never used a optical trackpad before. Is it like say running your finger on the bottom of a laser mouse? I know it is kinda bad analogy.
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Just remember if you do purchase a T-Mobile Nexus One - and you end up getting a data plan down the line.. your stuck on Edge forever while on AT&T's network.
There are AT&T Nexus One's out there.. but your going to be paying a premium.
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Yes, I have been looking around on craigslist and what not, t-mobile ones in mint condition run about $400, while ones bought straight from google run about $450, which I would want anyways so I don't have all the tmobile bloatware from the get go.
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Yes, I have been looking around on craigslist and what not, t-mobile ones in mint condition run about $400, while ones bought straight from google run about $450, which I would want anyways so I don't have all the tmobile bloatware from the get go.
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Dude... removing bloatware takes every bit of 10 minutes. I'm assuming that you're going to root anyways, so just save yourself $50.
So you can remove it? Did not know that. Yes I will root it, but I just wont our of the box because of a laziness factor lol. (atleast im truthful )
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So you can remove it? Did not know that. Yes I will root it, but I just wont our of the box because of a laziness factor lol. (atleast im truthful )
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Easily, and the chances are that any custom ROM you flash will be already purged of bloatware.
The Nexus One is a great starter phone. I personally started with a cheap G1 I found on craigslist. The owner had bought a new phone and didn't know about modding and even after I told him he wasn't interested in doing it. After a while I traded up and got the Nexus One.
The good thing about the T-Mobile version of the N1 is that if you do decide to get data service, and you're okay with the EDGE speeds (slower than 3G), then you can pay the cheaper price for the data plan. I've heard from here and there of people with the AT&T version of the Nexus One having their phone automatically upgraded to the more expensive data plan because Google must have given them an updated IMEI list for the phones.
Well just a update, purchased a Desire HD. Waiting for it in the mail, I can't wait!

[Q] Which AT&T Smartphone Should I get for Christmas.

I need to upgrade my current phone and I was wondering what any of you recommended if you have any experience with the windows phone 7 phones vs. their android models. I'm 16, I text a lott it's probably what I use my phone for most and swype is a godsend for me, but I need an mp3 player really badly and I would like my phone to function as one as well, also I want to get a nice case for it so that if I drop it a few times it doesn't break. I tested out the captivate for a week and it was amazing, but I'm into changing the roms and all that fancy stuff so if I did get a windows phone 7 do they have the ability to put android on it and vise-versa, is windows mobile 7 laggy like windows mobil 6.5 on my old fuze?
Some models I'm specifically looking at are the HTC Surround (win mo7), Samsung Captivate, Samsung Focus, LG quantam.
I can get each phone for about $150 so price isn't really an issue.
Guess it really depends... Have you been naughty or nice this year?
If you absolutely have to have swype, go for the captivate. WP7 doesn't have it and there's no indication that it will in the future as of yet. It is really easy to type on the Focus's screen (doing it right now), but if you really like swype, that's where you're at.
The Zune software in WP7 is great for playing mp3's. Don't really know what Android has, but I can say that the Zune software is nice.
No, WP7 hasn't been cracked open to flash custom roms, or run Android. If you really wanna do things like that, go for the captivate. However, as ardent a flasher as I have been with my Tilt2, it was all to get it to run right. WP7 is effortlessly fast right out of the box. The captivate needs to be tweaked to remove the lag and stutters. There is no lag on my Focus.
Merry Christmas!
breakyourface said:
I need to upgrade my current phone and I was wondering what any of you recommended if you have any experience with the windows phone 7 phones vs. their android models. I'm 16, I text a lott it's probably what I use my phone for most and swype is a godsend for me, but I need an mp3 player really badly and I would like my phone to function as one as well, also I want to get a nice case for it so that if I drop it a few times it doesn't break. I tested out the captivate for a week and it was amazing, but I'm into changing the roms and all that fancy stuff so if I did get a windows phone 7 do they have the ability to put android on it and vise-versa, is windows mobile 7 laggy like windows mobil 6.5 on my old fuze?
Some models I'm specifically looking at are the HTC Surround (win mo7), Samsung Captivate, Samsung Focus, LG quantam.
I can get each phone for about $150 so price isn't really an issue.
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Samsung Captivate
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Samsung Captivate
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I'm going to the AT&T store today, I'll probably test demo both of the samsungs and make my decision in there.
go for an iphone 4. at&t and iphone 4 works well together.
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I'd go for a Focus. The new Motorola phone looks really nice too and its cheaper, mid-pack. I forget what it's called though.
Go for samsung captivate.
I have both an iphone 4, and a captivate.
If you want something thats going to work perfect out of the box get the iphone 4 and an ottorbox case.
If you want a real phone, get the captivate.
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Samsung Captivate
MP3/Music: The 5.1 stereo in the built in music player sounds really good. The music player that comes with the stock Captivate is comparable to any of the music player apps you'll find.
For texting, you'll probably want to install SMS Popup, or Handscent.
It takes great pictures and video - BUT has no built in flash.
Mine is rooted, OCLF lag fix, and hacked for sideloading apps. Also Titanium Backup on a rooted device will allow you to remove the AT&T bloatware. (I recommend freezing apps for a week before removing them - just in case other apps are dependent on them)
I really love my Captivate. I might be a lucky one because I've never had any GPS lock problem, random shutdown problem etc that many others have complained about. Mine runs EXCELLENT!
My question is Why are you going for AT & T specifically? Why not Verizon or any other?
Walmart's got the captivate for $69 with your contract.
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Walmart's got the captivate for $69 with your contract.
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Oh my god I didn't know this and I happened to stop by walmart because yesterday the AT&T store was closed on a sundays, I picked up the captivate for $50 I thought the lady made a mistake because I was expecting at least $200
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Oh my god I didn't know this and I happened to stop by walmart because yesterday the AT&T store was closed on a sundays, I picked up the captivate for $50 I thought the lady made a mistake because I was expecting at least $200
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That's the same price my little brother told me they are in stores. That price I listed was for online. Either way, lot of phone for that price I'd say.
And I also noticed that ATT sells refurbs for $10, but are out of stock.
Call At&t 611. They have different stock than the website and usually have the phone you want when the website sells out. Prices may be.different though.
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Samsung Captivate.
best phone I've ever owned.

[Q] Getting rid of my Android™ devices. What now?

So the $130-140 per month we pay for our family plan of 700 minutes and unlimited web + text on the NexusOne and LG G2x, is a little steep right now.
I have to say, we are leaving Android™ for a little while.
With both of us unemployed, I should probably stop buying the latest Android™ device that comes out. And I promise I'll stop AFTER I GET MY NEXUS THREE! lol
So I just sold my wifes old Motorola Defy.
I am in negotiations to sell/trade my beloved Nexus One, and also the G2x I just bout two months ago.
Now that just leaves wifeys old MyTouch 3G.
I just bought a Nokia N97 (I might let her keep it as she kinda likes it).
What do you all recommend?
I had a Nokia N73 for a while, then sold it to buy my first HTC Dream.
I've never owned a BlackBerry.
But I'm open.
I would say I am a little media-centric. I take lots of pics and share on Facebook. I used to LOVE editting with PicSayPro before uploading.
I text ALOT!
Facebook a few times throughout the day.
Games, very little.
Go for HTC HD2, since it can run many os'es like wp7, wm6.5, ubuntu and even android, you will never feel like your phone needs android. And if you plan to switch back to android later, you can just install android easily and use it. And the price is not too high, so it might be suitable for you or ur wife Good luck on choosing one.
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Go for HTC HD2, since it can run many os'es like wp7, wm6.5, ubuntu and even android, you will never feel like your phone needs android.
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hhmm, the hunt continues
HD2 is really good
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HD2 is really good
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Spent the past hour scouring the marketplace for one.
I saw a few the past few weeks. But none now
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!!!
I found one, US Tmo HD2 / extra battery.
I hope he replies!
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So I've been told I can DOWNGRADE MY ACCOUNT and get this HD2 and request some sort of basic data plan with T-Mobile?
I just had my Google Voice number changed to my local area code after moving from Fort Worth. So I woulnd't even need any text messaging plan, right?
Found another here.
Is $200 good?
I just shot him an offer.
I use an Evo on cricket for 35 dollars a month (wifi only). Sure the inital cost is 200, but once you have the phone its like you aren't even paying a monthly fee.
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I use an Evo on cricket for 35 dollars a month (wifi only). Sure the inital cost is 200, but once you have the phone its like you aren't even paying a monthly fee.
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I don't want to leave T-Mobile.
It's a worthy alternative. But I want to avoid ETF.

Samsung Galaxy S3 or LG Nexus 4 - Need some advice

Hello XDA,
My name is Robert Oortwijn and I currently have a Samsung Star. So I want to get a new phone and am deciding between the S3 or Nexus 4, nothing else. I have enough money to buy one of the two
So for the last month I have been looking, searching, watching stuff regarding the S3 and Nexus 4. From comparisons to single reviews.
What I want really is to have a good phone. It will be my first Android phone and smartphone.
My closest friend got the Galaxy S3 Pebble Blue and I really like the big screen and color. What I also like is the ability to have the battery removed and extend storage. Then again I also really like the Nexus 4 for getting the latest updates and being stock Android.
Sadly my concern is this. The glass back which from my impressions breaks really fast. A 1m drop or just ticking your phone against a table will crack it. Secondly is the bit smaller size of the screen. The Nexus 4 has a 4,7 inch compared to the S3 4,8 inch. It becomes even less because of the on-screen based buttons. This trough isn't a issue. I like on-screen and S3 style buttons.
What I just can't is making a decisions. Both are amazing phones where the one has something I like and the other doesn't and vice versa.
I would like to ask XDA to give some opinions and reasons why I should pick one of these two phones.
While 16GB is in my opinion enough for apps, maybe 3 games and music? I have like 4GB of music on my PC, I do like the extra storage but then again the N4 offers stock android and such.
I hope XDA will be the one able to help me. I tried many forums but only got one responds and those weren't really helpful.
Greetings :laugh:,
Robert Oortwijn
Nexus 4
Sounds like you've already given a lot of thought about which phone you want to choose or select and you've already researched the options that each phone has. But it comes down to what's important to you. If expandable storage and removable battery is important to you or if you think you can live without it. I personally don't own either device but I know you'll get die hard fans on both sides saying that their phone is the best and why. But in the end it's really your opinion that matters because you'll be the one who has to live with the phone. I am trying to make the decision myself as to which one I would choose and I go back and forth.
Personally if you're thinking of the S4, I would opt for the NOTE II instead. I haven't heard any legitimate complaints about it. And even some people who own the N4 or S3 are trying to sell their phone and get one. Plus it has a 5.5" display!
But it really does come down to what you think is important. I too have music that I think is so important to transfer onto my storage on my phone but Google music player can sync your music on your PC to your phone. And I use spotify more than than the copied music on my phone. With spotify, @ $10 a month, you have unlimited access to virtually any artist or album out there. Albums are available on spotify the same day the CDs are released. Plus you can download playlists to your phone over wifi that you can listen to without using data.
Hope this helps.
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Nexus 4
Personally I would go for the Nexus 4. Stock Android is important for someone like me who makes little apps.
I love samaung for all dives and i using s5302
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I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
How the phone looks and your preference of buttons, screen size etc. is up to you i guess.
For the GS3 the international model is hampered by Samsungs own Exynos processor and that being much harder to develop for than the Qualcomm in the US version. For instance Cyanogenmod 10.1 on the i9300 has no stable builds because of development problems.
In fact the current i9300 developers have said they will not be supporting the international GS4 as it will be such a pain.
If you are in the US then you are fine for Cyanogenmod at least, and probably most other custom ROMs.
nexus 4 is better in us.
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I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
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What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
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What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
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I live in the Netherlands. We don't have LTE (yet) but I do know that HSPA+ is fast enough for me so LTE isn't a big problem compared to US citizens.
I'm going to get the device with a contract. 100 calls or sms with 500 mb for 20 euros for the coming 24 months.
Regarding Stock Android or ROMS I don't know. Seeing it has Stock Android I might just stick with that.
I'm not a developer either. Just a teen who want to get his first Android/Smart-phone hehe

[Q] G2 $399 at T-Mobile - a good deal?

I see it's available for $399 at T-Mobile. So $200+ less than the current "flagship" phones that are pretty boring IMO.
Do you guys still like the G2? Is it easy to root? Any problems with it other than the weird buttons on the back?
I took a look at it at a local corporate store. The one on display was messed up and the rep of course told me it was a "bad" phone and I needed to get an s5.
Thanks!
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I see it's available for $399 at T-Mobile. So $200+ less than the current "flagship" phones that are pretty boring IMO.
Do you guys still like the G2? Is it easy to root? Any problems with it other than the weird buttons on the back?
I took a look at it at a local corporate store. The one on display was messed up and the rep of course told me it was a "bad" phone and I needed to get an s5.
Thanks!
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50 views and no replies. I'm going to pass on the G2 and wait for the Moto x+!
The phone is nice ! I've had it since February. I have no complaints about the phone however when the the g3 comes out we are going back to Verizon because T-Mobile just isn't cutting it. I had no issues rooting it and the buttons on the back were weird at first but now are natural to me. One thing though these forums are dead not a lot of development like I was used to coming from the note 2 . but like I said I think its a great phone
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Shaffer678 said:
The phone is nice ! I've had it since February. I have no complaints about the phone however when the the g3 comes out we are going back to Verizon because T-Mobile just isn't cutting it. I had no issues rooting it and the buttons on the back were weird at first but now are natural to me. One thing though these forums are dead not a lot of development like I was used to coming from the note 2 . but like I said I think its a great phone
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I'm concerned about lack of development - rooting Kit Kat. Thanks.
The regular g2 forum is pretty active. Development for t-mobile seems like it kind of sucks. Good luck.
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I've been a loyal T-Mobile customer for over 10 years, the last 8 without a contract. So I've been able to leverage my status as a long-time user to secure for myself an outstanding price for my unlimited data plan that no other carrier comes remotely close to matching. That said, I got my G2 on Sunday after my trusty Amaze was stolen from my car on Friday night while fueling-up on my way home from work.
I walked into the T-Mobile store with the intention of getting a Nexus 5, but left with the G2. For the same price there is no comparison. The longer battery life, better sound quality and camera, along with the doubled storage capacity sold me. I personally can't justify spending more than 400 bucks for any handset that will be obsolete in a couple of years and with performance and features that rival those devices that cost over $200 more, I thought it was a no brainer.
As far as the comments about lack of development are concerned, it doesn't bother me. I plan on compiling my own Cyanogenmod, Pac-ROM, and Evervolv as soon as I get bored with stock and get time off from work. Besides, in the few days I've used this device I've found its OS to be one of the best stock Android I've ever used (I like it way more than any version of Sense that I've used). It doesn't deviate too far from ASOP yet has additional tweaking that is normally only found in custom ROMs. In fact, if I can get some time to figure out how to root and install a compatible aftermarket recovery, I might just deodex and debloat it and leave it as is for awhile.
As I said, at its current $398 price point it's got more bang for the buck than any of the other handsets T-Mobile is selling.
Just my 2 cents
Ciao
I considered nexus 5, galaxy 4, htc m8 and lg g2. I came from nexus 4 and the battery life was close to my previous iphone 4s. lg g2 is almost 3 times longer than nexus 4 with one charge. So, nexus 4 is removed from list. HTC is great but the price difference is huge and so it is out. Samsung 4 price was higher, galaxy s3 price was close to lg g2. After checking specs, performance, battery, lg g2 is a clear winner.
So far i have only 2 minor issues.
Swiftkey app is not compatible with this and causes lots of FC. It took me a week to figure out what was causing the FC. I have to update to a beta and then uninstall it - now no issues so far.
3 out of 5 times, i hit the home button when trying to type space in the keyboard. I installed g3 keyboard - has lots of options, so far good.
If you have about $400 or so in your pocket, I highly recommend this phone.
I believe this phone is capable of the future tmobile Voice Over LTE. But I am not sure if this will handle the 700hz band that tmobile is planning to implement - recently they bought from verizon. When i tried the hidden menu, that band is not available - but specs say it is compatible. May be it will show up if I unlock the phone or if install a non-stock ROM??
So, it is future proof at least for some time .....

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