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Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..
dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing
I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...
Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.
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...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.
Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom
So, I've been ready to throw the Captivate away.
When I originally rooted and loaded Cognition 3.04 (Eclair based), everything worked like a charm. I used it for quite some time and was totally happy. For some reason that escapes me now, I decided to flash back to stock. And there is where my trouble began.
I used the Odin one-click that has the official 2.1 image included (file name I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0). That worked OK, but it seems to have disabled my 3 finger salute to recovery mode. This is on a batch 1009 phone.
I stayed with that for a while, and then the official AT&T Froyo came out. Oh my - what a piece of crap that is. I had lags, GPS problems, battery drain, and more.
So, I decided to move to Cognition 4.1.1. The first problem I ran into was rooting. With recovery mode effectively disabled, I ended up using the GalaxyS_One-Click_Root_All_Models file. So, I was rooted.
So I'm thinking load ROM Manager and I'm good to go. Wrong. Seems there is a new version of the boot loader in Froyo that requires ROMs to be signed. Cognition isn't, so it wouldn't load. Various places mention how you can change various things to make the bootloader version 3e look like 2e (which doesn't require signature and is standard on Eclair). None of those worked for me and ended up bricking my phone (AT&T white boot screen hang) from screwing around with system files. Word of advice - know well what you're doing before you patch individual files in ANY operating system.
As luck would have it, I ordered the $10 JiG from Josh over at MobileTechVideos (and boy did it get here fast - we're only about 2 hours away from each other). The JiG got me back to Download mode, so I once again used the one click Odin (see above) to reload Eclair.
With Eclair loaded, I again used the one click root (see above), loaded ROM Manager and proceeded to flash Cognition - or so I thought. Minor detail - CWM wasn't loaded so the installation failed with the error Installation aborted. I used ROM Manager to load CWM. Then I used ROM Manager to load Cognition. Since I dropped back to Eclair, I didn't have to worry about the 2e/3e/signed bootloader issue.
As Cognition 4.1.1 loaded I took notes on what I was seeing. It took longer than I remembered (but then again I was very eager to see this finally work). It did the backup, formatting, installing, and there was a funky message that was hard to read that showed up on a black screen which said "Don't turn off system." After a brief time, the phone rebooted. The white screen came back and stayed on. I'm thinking - great - not again. But as I was waiting, I could hear the phone talking to me (sounding alot like Rosie from the Jetsons) saying something about partition, backup, and 2 minutes ETA). That was a very reassuring message to know I wasn't again bricked.
After a bit, the Galaxy S screen came on. It was on long enough to make me think it was hanging again. I waited it out, and soon thereafter the phone came up.
Cognition 4.1.1 is finally loaded. Now to play with it.
I hope someone finds this story useful. In other words, don't do what I did. But if you do, follow my steps and you should be fine.
In summary:
1 - Flash to stock Eclair
2 - Root
3 - Load ROM Manager from Android Market
4 - Load CWM from ROM Manager
5 - Copy the ROM on to the root of the internal SD card
6 - Use ROM Manager to load the ROM
7 - Wait patiently while it does its thing
Good story...could have done away with some of that worry by reading about the long 1st boot boot times and the VooDoo voices, but your story is the same as lots of people...First time is always a rush and a worry, but glad to see yours worked out, and hopefully people will read your post and then read a lot of the others on here to avoid some of the worry! thanks for the post!
Yeah - that was kinda the point. I've been on the 'net since the late 80s (Ok, so I'm old), so I'm steeped in the "read first ask later" mentality. The problem here is that when I find an interesting post that may relate, it's 150+ pages long. And on page 187 someone says "Yes, didn't you read that 47 pages back?"
Did I make it to page 187? Did I miss the significance 47 pages back? Maybe & probably not.
I just hoped to have enough search keywords in here that someone can find my story and maybe save themselves alot of reading
One word of advice to anyone playing around with root and CFW: $10 isn't alot to pay for insurance that you don't brick your phone. In other words, buy the JiG and be done with it. It really saved my a$$ this time.
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The problem here is that when I find an interesting post that may relate, it's 150+ pages long. And on page 187 someone says "Yes, didn't you read that 47 pages back?"
Did I make it to page 187? Did I miss the significance 47 pages back? Maybe & probably not.
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You are so correct. That's my only complaint about this forum. Since I've been here, I've learned a lot, but as far as the basic why and how stuff, it's buried amongst umpteen pages. Somewhere it would be nice to have the latest, greatest methods listed without tons of pages of follow-ups which also add the latest, greatest info. Who has time to dig through it all? Not me, which is why my phone is still stock, non-rooted, and non lagfixed.
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You are so correct. That's my only complaint about this forum. Since I've been here, I've learned a lot, but as far as the basic why and how stuff, it's buried amongst umpteen pages. Somewhere it would be nice to have the latest, greatest methods listed without tons of pages of follow-ups which also add the latest, greatest info. Who has time to dig through it all? Not me, which is why my phone is still stock, non-rooted, and non lagfixed.
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I wonder if any thought has been given to keeping moderated forums for just this sort of thing? Admins could maintain current data from the threads in all the other forums in the form of basic posts or stickies.
Of course, that would be alot of work for someone...
BTW - after Cognition 4.1.1, I'm loving the phone. Battery drain is gone and lags are gone. I haven't tested the GPS much, but I'm assuming the problems are more hardware than software (which no amount of CFW can fix).
You know all this your not a newbie. I read your post took me 3 days to install 2.2 froyo no pc (mac). I had to do it at work. My first time on this site and 99% of this seems like LATIN to me.
If ur a newb and you haven't watched connexion's videos, DO IT! they're great. I've flashed a couple different ROMs now and feel pretty comfortable with the process. And stay away from official froyo!
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I ran into similar problems with my phone when flashing. I am running official 2.2 rom with CWM recovery, SuckerPunch #53 Kernel, lagfix installed, and I900 UCGJ2 modem. When I first tried to flash CWM, I kept getting the package unsigned error. So I downloaded the cracked 3e recovery without sign check. I followed the instructions on that post to a tee, rebooted, and hung at white att screen when boot into recovery. To get past this, I removed battery, reinstalled and rebooted. Still stuck at att white screen. Upon hooking back to computer, I ran adb devices command and saw my phone was still in recovery mode. So I typed adb reboot, and my phone came back on. After an hour of having similar results, I finally got the 3e unsigned recovery to work by following these steps:
1. Download recovery file to adb directory on computer
2. Adb push recovery /data/local/tmp
3. Using root explorer, remount /system as rw.
4. Adb shell
5. Chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/recovery
6. Cp /data/local/tmp/recovery /system/bin
7. Chmod 777 /system/bin/recovery
8. Exit from adb shell
9. Unhook from computer
10. Reboot phone.
11. Power phone off.
12. Reboot into recovery by using three button method.
This worked for me, and I had to mess around for an hour to figure it all out. I agree that a centralized location for instructions and information would be wonderful! Would save a lot if headaches, especially for people like me. I am new to smartphones, and I have only had my captivate since mid february. Thus was my first time flashing, and while I am very computer literate and am a self taught programmer, I have no experience in mobile phones. Luckily, android is based on linux, which I am well versed in. I hope this helps someone.
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Omg gmab aufkm
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I just flashed from Cog 3.1 to Cog 4 too. I love it. Unbelievable what these phones are actually capable of.
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+1 is exactly what I was thinking when it first hung at att boot logo! I know the method I used is a pain, but it worked for me.
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Forgive the off topic..it relates! (some of it anyway)
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Yeah - that was kinda the point. I've been on the 'net since the late 80s (Ok, so I'm old), so I'm steeped in the "read first ask later" mentality. The problem here is that when I find an interesting post that may relate, it's 150+ pages long. And on page 187 someone says "Yes, didn't you read that 47 pages back?"
Did I make it to page 187? Did I miss the significance 47 pages back? Maybe & probably not.
I just hoped to have enough search keywords in here that someone can find my story and maybe save themselves alot of reading
One word of advice to anyone playing around with root and CFW: $10 isn't alot to pay for insurance that you don't brick your phone. In other words, buy the JiG and be done with it. It really saved my a$$ this time.
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I hear ya! Been there many times since my first PC, lol Break it then learn how to fix it instead of learning how to use it first! My first PC was an 8088 cpu with very little ram and only a 5 1/4 floppy drive...but I loved it! got a ram update to 512, then a 300 baud modem...then I got a 40 megabyte Hard Drive, I thought WOW, I will NEVER fill this thing up...lol and a cga monitor...I was king of the hill back then...ran a BBS for a few years...fun times...
My steps to flash a new ROM:
1 - download desired ROM
2 - place ROM on phone
3 - place cwm update.zip in root of internal SD card
4 - power off
5 - download mode
6 - stock eclair Odin
7 - after booted, reboot into recovery
8 - install update
9 - use cwm to install desired ROM
10 - enjoy
You don't have to root, or use ROM manager. Occasionally I toss in a master clear, but not every time. I do however delete every folder on the SD card except my media, ROMs and cwm update.zip.
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If someone could,
It would surely be nice to know where a stock user can d/load the Latest Stock version in Zip Format that we could load our devices with... Either for the SD Card, or for the External Sd Card. There are sooooo many "update" info that it's very hard (unless you KNOW exactly where to look) but if it is posted as LATEST Stock d/l, That would surely make things a whole lot easier, and eliminate guessing games for us dummies...
I'd recommend NOT MIXING UP the OSes as well... Keep the SPECIFIC VERSIONS Separate and identifiable with the same nomenclature for each.
Just my 2 cents here....
That is what the stock updater does...it goes and gets it for you.
Yes I have problems with mine, and the "goes and gets it for you" says you have the latest.... That's one whole hell of a lot of help!
bobolinko said:
Yes I have problems with mine, and the "goes and gets it for you" says you have the latest.... That's one whole hell of a lot of help!
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Then yours is the latest OR the VS OTA updater server is down. But in order to find the older ROM versions, the links are scattered in a few stickies, etc. For now, if you want the best stock rom, you want 3588, along with the gapps enhancement.
Here is a post that has the VS stock rom files too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000
I heard reports that 4349 + data wipe = bricked. I'm seeing the same thing.
I could see them pulling 4349 for something this bad. Might explain why it disappeared on us this afternoon.
My guess, btw, is that there's something amiss in the ramdisk but I haven't tested it throughly.
Roe,
There is something wrong with the update. I can't explain it but I'm sure you'll find it
I would expected another update soon
I haven't had any time today to rip it apart - I haven't even compared it to 3991 (yet).
Going to do that over the weekend - just a heads up that today is probably the last day that I'm scanning this site heavily. This weekend I want to rip apart 4349, compare it with 3991 and see about the bugs (like the data wipe issue). If I can stabilize it, I'll still make a TwoTapsX 1.0 out of it.
As for TNT Lite 4.4.0 and gADAM 1.4.0, they will go into retired mode after this weekend - they will stay up here in XDA but I won't be developing them anymore. And the TwoTapsX .9 pre-release thread will also be retired and not developed further here. Again, I'm not permitted to link elsewhere, or so I've been told.
Remember the post from Adam about creating a developer area with them?
They do need help but don't know how to go about getting it without seeming having so many opportunities!
Or.......at least that is how it seemed.
He did ask what developers wanted or needed for a possible way to push the Gtab into the front of the tab race.
roebeet said:
I heard reports that 4349 + data wipe = bricked. I'm seeing the same thing.
I could see them pulling 4349 for something this bad. Might explain why it disappeared on us this afternoon.
My guess, btw, is that there's something amiss in the ramdisk but I haven't tested it throughly.
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I had to reinstall 4349 several times yesterday after experimenting getting the Market working, and I data wiped after reinstalling 4349 each time. Mine never bricked. JFI..
just lou said:
I had to reinstall 4349 several times yesterday after experimenting getting the Market working, and I data wiped after reinstalling 4349 each time. Mine never bricked. JFI..
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+1 mine didn't brick either.
So all of the root methods for the I535 seem to require flashing a custom filesystem and everything. Right now I don't really want to do any of the more extremes like using custom kernels, CM, or etc, I just want to use a few basic apps that need SuperUser rights (in fact, mainly SetCPU, but I'd like to use TitaniumBackup ideally.) The current method I'm seeing in my searches involves flashing a custom system image and everything via Odin and if anything went wrong and I had to take it back, this is a lot trickier to deal with than just if it merely had some basic exploit or something installed... However, in my searches I thought at least one person alluded to a root only method that doesn't use quite such an extreme method -- or perhaps I've simply misunderstood?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342
[ROOT][TOOL][2012-07-24] GS3DebugFSRoot: Root the Verizon GSIII without flashing
Hopefully this helps
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As the previous guy pointed out, the primary root tool does not involve flashing an image of any sort. It's a three step install and is about the most simple thing you'll ever do on your phone. Its all automated too. And even if you did Odin an image onto your phone via other methods, going back to stock only involves Odin of the stock image. Just to ease your mind....Odin consists of selecting the image and pressing start. Also extremely simple. Good luck and have fun!
Huh. I should have seen that one in my searching. Well, now this thread will show up in searches for the next person and they'll get a link to that thread, lol. Anyway, that was definitely the sort of thing I was looking for. I didn't really want to flash the filesystem and everything. While I will someday go to CM I'm sure, I don't want that day to be today. To be clear, I wasn't afraid of the complexity of Odin or whatever (my previous Android device, an Archos 43, was running a custom firmware even) I just didn't want it to have to actually flash a custom filesystem and everything. This at least appears to be using a far cleaner and simpler method that a factory reset or whatever should revert if it came right down to it, which is what I wanted.
Oh, and unsurprisingly it worked without a hitch even though I had let it do the OTA update (well, others have reported it does, but I'm confirming that it does with this latest update as of today at least.) At least, so far in initial tests it's doing everything it should be doing, including letting me run su from the adb shell. (I don't have time to sufficiently test as I leave for work shortly, but I have already put SetCPU on there and all seems to be well so far.) I was hoping it would fix another issue I was having or I wouldn't have made that update (and of course it did nothing, but oh well.)
Thanks!
EDIT: I guess it must be working. Yesterday my phone spent almost all day not really being used just sitting in my pocket and by the end of the day the charge was down to about 60%. Today it was closer to 90% if anything and I played a couple of games for a bit... I'm forced to admit that I changed a few other things though, so I'm not 100% sure that SetCPU alone did everything. Still, not a bad result all the same...
Hi all,
I finally decided to add a custom rom to my SK4G. I had retired it for a year or so, not from getting a new phone, but rather my youngest child dropped it in a mud puddle. I had put it in rice and all that good stuff. I was able to get it to turn back on, but it has very very very low battery. So I put it on the charger, and it would briefly show the charging symbol and disappear. So I had assumed that it was totally shot, And while I was disappointed, because I love this phone, it still was not surprising. I mean it was in a mud puddle right. LoL
Well about 2 weeks ago I got bored, and figured what the smudge, I will ticker with it. I figured, I couldnt do any worse to it than what was already done. So I once again tried to see if it would charge. Tried by wall charger, by car charger, and by USB charging. But alas once again nothing. Well my husband also has a SK4G. So I ganked his battery for a little bit, and lo and behold, it worked. Turned on flawlessly, and not one issue in the operating system at all. Well at least as flawlessly as a stock SK4g could get. lol
So I was thinking maybe the charger slot had shorted out for whatever, from it being in the mud puddle. I put the battery from my SK4G in my husbands phone and agin tried all 3 charging methinds, and still nothing. So I pluged my phone in with his battery and it went to charing just fine. Okay so, new battery. Not that bad, but I dont order anything over the net. I hate waiting, I live in a big enough city, I figured I could go to one of the electronic stores and get one.
So I tried 5 different places, no one had a replacement for it, but once gain I was impatient and didnt want to wait. Did some googling and found out Batteries plus carries a replacement for it. Wasnt thrilled by the fact that they charge 2 to 3 times more for it that other places. But whatever, if it got my phone running again, okay. I had my oldest son pick me up one on his way home from work. Gave him the stock battery numbers and all that. He brings it home, and I go to put it in and..................It is not even close to being a compatible replacement for the samsung battery. Went back down there and returned it. Told the sales clerk that their website was completely wrong. Upon looking through their wall of replacement cell batteries, I did find another battery that was a perfect match. Only to have the "Battery Expert" argue with me about it being the right one. Finally got him to stop running his mouth and bought the battery.
I had just recently ended my contract with t-mobile, and wanted to take my SK4G with me to a new carrier. Well in order to do that, I needed to unlock the network. So it was research time. Googled and found XDA. Which from then on has ben invaluable to the process. Found Sidekick 4G Unlocking *Follow Directions Closely written by troby86 and SuperOneClick - Root/Unroot Your Samsung Sidekick 4G by Ayoteddy .Had a few problems with SOC. It kept freezing at step 7. Took me a few to find the reason why ( answer is in the forums here, just took some digging and reading to find. The culprit was the "Exploit setting needed to be set to "psneuter". Changed that and finshed rooting with out any more problems on that part.
Next had to unlock the network, following the above mentioned thread. Tried it 2 or 3 times to no avail. Then it dawned on me that I hadnt rebooted after I got it rooted. So rebooted and tried the terminal part of it again. And Bingo! It took the commands or whatever you would like to call them. SK4G was now unlocked. Yay!
SInce I had already been in the forum looking at the unlock and root guides. I decided why not go ahead and put a custom rom on it too. I loved my SK I just loathed the software on it. Constantly freezing while surfing the net or trying to use facebook. I spent a bunch of time browsing the forums, reading the comments on all the roms and trying to decide which rom I wanted to use. I had orginally choose CM6-Merged.
So read the thread on it, and even watched a youtube video by sinesolder. The next task was to chase down all the files I needed to install that, plus the CWM stuff too. I flashed CWM using the app "Root Manager" in the play store. Next was to swap out the "recovery" file. Took a few mins to find it, but did. Placed it in the root of the SDcard along with the update zip. Downloaded Astro file manager from the play store. Went to bottem of list and copied the recovery file, then pasted in system/bin folder. Rebooted, clicked reinstall packages on the stock (blue) recovery screen. But it was a no go. it would not give me the orange CWM. It just ket saying E :file invalid, or some such rubbish. So back to combing the forums again. Had stumbled upon a post some where here, that said something about MNT/SDcard. And sure enough, I copied the recovery file from the MNT/SDcard directory, then pasted in the system/bin. Reboot again, reinstall packages and BAM Orange CWM! But before I flashed my first rom, i wanted to get the red CWM/voodoo recovery. That way I didnt have to worry about mounts while flashing. After much reading again in the forum, I found that the red CWM was already included with the Bali Kernal. Reboot again, then install from SDcard, choose Bali Kernal and installed. Woo Hoo red CWM was up and going. phew.... lol or so I thought. Plugged phone in and put CM6 - Merged on the SD. Back to recovery, wipe factory, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Then install from SDcard again, chose CM-6 Merged.
This is where I had a bit of a panic. As I was not paying atternion the what Kernal or Baseband the rom was made to run with. So that ended up soft-bricking my phone. But yet again, XDA to the rescue. Searched it out and found the "ODIN to stock" thread. Just had to track down the right TAR and PIT files. I was orginally on KJ2 stock before I did anything, but I could only find the KD1 TAR. No biggie tho, just used the ODIN to stock method and I was back in business again.
Since I am far from having any real knowledge about roms and their internal workings and what-nots. I went about just trying to find roms that would run off of the Bali Kernal and the KD1 baseband. I did find working links to a few of them, not exactly sure how many, but I had serval choices. I went with GingerClone v.2.
Back to reboot, wipe factory, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Install from SDcard, chose GingerClone and installed. Booted up and everyhting was all hunky dory again. Ran that rom for a few days. And yes it was a really nice rom, and it was faster than stock. It just was quicte what I was looking for.
Back to looking for ROM files, seeing which links were still good and trying to figure out which one I thought would work best for me. Tried TouchMIUIwiz v3, and again very good rom, but still not quite right. Decided to spend a whole day just comparing roms that would work with Bali and KD1. There are only a few roms that are made with KD1. So I wanted to go back to KJ2. I was thinking the only way I could do that was if I wiped again and the hooked up to Kios (or whatever it is called), But no, I found a working like to a KJ2 file. After another set of wiping in recovery, then Flashed the KJ2, then Flashed Nexus CM. Been messing with in for fwe days, and have to say I really really like this one. It has been smooth as glass and quick as a rabbit. I am thinking as long as I dont run into any major problems or bugs with it, this wil be my daily driver.
But I do have a question, since most of you have been here for awhile, and have been able to try out alot of these roms when they were new. Whick rom, in your own opinion, would make web surfing fast and smooth, and also works awesome with facebook? have already rooted and unlocked my husbands SK4G, but he surfs the web and does his facebooking from his SK, and it loves to freeze up and lag out when using both of those things.
Now that I am at the bottom with this, very sorry if my post seemed to long or anything else. Thanks in advance!
That's quite the story there. Crazy to believe it still works.
As for the ROM question, really all of the ROMS for SK4G are outdated. Due to software available. The only ROMS that I would say are up to snuff now are the neXus GB and JB ROMS by RicAndroid. They are chock full of tweaks and scripts. But keep in mind, you're not going to be on the actual newer Android versions. So it may run better, and it may be faster, but only so much.
Hope this helps
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That's quite the story there. Crazy to believe it still works.
As for the ROM question, really all of the ROMS for SK4G are outdated. Due to software available. The only ROMS that I would say are up to snuff now are the neXus GB and JB ROMS by RicAndroid. They are chock full of tweaks and scripts. But keep in mind, you're not going to be on the actual newer Android versions. So it may run better, and it may be faster, but only so much.
Hope this helps
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I was pleasantly surprised when it turned out to be just a battery issue.
Thanks for the answer on the roms. I realized that these are older roms now, and its not the most crrrent version of android and all that, and I am totally fine with it. I am just looking for something that is better, smoother and faster than the stock stuff on the phone, for my husband. He still uses his SK4G as well. In fact I dont think I could get him to upgrade to a new smartphone phone/ android device anyways. So I was just looking for something to stop his constant frezzing issue while he is web surfing and things like that. You were very helpful tho, so thanks a bunch.
I agree with Zydrate_Blue; the Nexus JB ROM is about as good as it gets with this phone.
Thanks guys! I will have to d/l and flash it.
CupCakeBombardme said:
Thanks guys! I will have to d/l and flash it.
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For a smoother internet interface. Get yourself NakedBrowser. They've got a free version that works just lovely. I haven't tried the paid version myself, but if may very well be worth it for someone who uses it a lot!