I have been somewhat disappointed in video quality--some flash plays very choppy and stutters, as well as downloaded movies (AVI and WMV HD) I am suprised at this--I also have an Archos 101, which plays video very well. Is it the video player that I am using? I installed the latest TnT lite version (Thanks Roebeet). Any suggestions on how to improve video/streaming quality?
Not sure what the problem you may be having is, but 2.20 update plays higher def Flash video and all non Flash videos I have tried smoothly, except some H264 720p and above. No 1080p works or very well, regardless on the Gtablet (yet).
Based on PMs I am getting and posts at Archosfans, 101 Flash performance is FAR weaker than the Droid X which has the same chipset. The Gtablet plays Flash videos smoothly that the Droid X plays like a slide show.
Seems you have some issues with your rom install, since even prior to 2.20, the 2.04 build also played video far better than the Droid X, which has twice the ram and is not capped at 800mhz like the 101 is. Also spanks my Incredble too.
You may need to go into clockwork and clean cache then reboot. Your experience with Flash video is polar opposite of mine
HD WMV files are weak on the Gtablet, but like other HD content, I see no point since the files suck up too much space, drain battery more and all current tablets are "600p". What is point of 720p or better for watching on device with "600p"?
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I have Core Player and love it's steaming capabilities. Doesn't skip and has plenty of feature to customize. The problem I'm running into is playing videos from my SD card. I have two TV show episodes loaded onto my microSD, 640x480. For some reason, Core Player skips a frame or two, sometimes, and freezes/lags for a solid 5-7 seconds other times.
I'm wondering if there are any fixes for this? What settings work best for the Core Player for the smoothest possible feedback?
Unfortunately...
This is not the answer that you want to hear (and I hope someone can prove me wrong) but you will probably will have to reencode those videos to a more CorePlayer friendly format if you want to use CorePlayer on your Raphael to play those files.
CorePlayer doesn't play nicely with H264 files yet on our Qualcomm chips. You can reencode to something like divx/xvid or wait until CorePlayer 2.0 to release sometime in 2009. They claim better hardware support will come with that version. Or you can reencode for WMP. Yeah, I know, kind of a bummer. =/
More info can be found on xda and fuzemobility. I think there is an xda thread started by k9tim regarding this issue if you want to read up on it.
One thing that helped for non H264 files was to increase the buffer size tenfold and decrease video quality to Medium or Low for better framerates. Didn't help me for H264 files but it did help me with some mpegs. I hope someone can prove me wrong.
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I watch movies and tv shows in xvid and divx with 1.25, default settings, high quality, with absolutey no slow downs at all. What exactly are you trying to play?
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This is not the answer that you want to hear (and I hope someone can prove me wrong) but you will probably will have to reencode those videos to a more CorePlayer friendly format if you want to use CorePlayer on your Raphael to play those files.
CorePlayer doesn't play nicely with H264 files yet on our Qualcomm chips. You can reencode to something like divx/xvid or wait until CorePlayer 2.0 to release sometime in 2009. They claim better hardware support will come with that version. Or you can reencode for WMP. Yeah, I know, kind of a bummer. =/
More info can be found on xda and fuzemobility. I think there is an xda thread started by k9tim regarding this issue if you want to read up on it.
One thing that helped for non H264 files was to increase the buffer size tenfold and decrease video quality to Medium or Low for better framerates. Didn't help me for H264 files but it did help me with some mpegs. I hope someone can prove me wrong.
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Well, you're right - It's certainly not good news. But the bold'd part made it that much better, so it evens out
As far as the info goes, I really appreciate it. It's really no problem for me to leave my computer on overnight with a whole queue of files to re-encode. It'd suck if I was trying to get other things done too, but a fan on high and a few solid hours overnight should (hopefully) take care of these issues. Thanks again.
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I watch movies and tv shows in xvid and divx with 1.25, default settings, high quality, with absolutey no slow downs at all. What exactly are you trying to play?
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You, or anyone else who reads this and has zero issues with playback, wouldn't happen to have drivers from this post installed, would you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2892184&postcount=357
I'm wondering if that's the issue - different drivers on different phones. I have a stock ROM Alltel HTC Touch Pro, with no real desire to upgrade/flash/change the PRL. I ***LOVE*** it the way it is and probably won't be getting a different phone for 3-4 years. 99.8% perfect in my book (with potential factored in, too)
I have a stock Fuze and can get good playback.
Again it all depends on the source files your trying to play. Some of my trilinear and high quality audio encoded files chop / lag every 60th frame or so but at high quality its worth it. Medium quality it does not slow down too much. Most play smoothly till high action in which case they will slow a little.
Increasing the buffer and playing with the method of drawing can increase your quality. If I was not half asleep and my phone in the other room (wife asleep) I would check my settings. If I remember I will post them in the morning. Most of them have not been changed though.
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You, or anyone else who reads this and has zero issues with playback, wouldn't happen to have drivers from this post installed, would you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2892184&postcount=357
I'm wondering if that's the issue - different drivers on different phones. I have a stock ROM Alltel HTC Touch Pro, with no real desire to upgrade/flash/change the PRL. I ***LOVE*** it the way it is and probably won't be getting a different phone for 3-4 years. 99.8% perfect in my book (with potential factored in, too)
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I have those drivers installed AND playback issues. But you should install them anyway.
I'm working out some methods of encoding at the moment and will get back to you. I tried to fight the transcoding, but am starting to give in. The device just doesn't have a lot of headroom as far as playing videos, with currently available players.
Any other thoughts on this or are we all just waiting on the next Core Player update?
Did installing the drivers help you at all?
So, the I/O-speed often is the bottleneck for the tf300. I knew this already, just like the most of you probably. It didn't bother me too much, as I didn't have a lot of issues because of it.
Lately I did start to encounter problems with it, because I started to use my tablet for streaming video. The result is that I can watch about 30 seconds of video, have to wait 30 seconds while the device is buffering, can watch another 30 seconds of video, wait for buffering again, and so on.... It seems the device is not capable to buffer while playing video. Well, you can imagine I don't have the patience nor the wish to watch any video till the end under these circumstances.
As I see and know that the network connection is just fine for streaming video capabilities (it works fine on my laptop and phone for instance), I am pretty sure the problems I have on the tf300 are due to the I/O-issues.
Now my specific question is: is there any solution or workaround to avoid lagging video streams because of these I/O speed issues?
And on a wider spectrum: Is there any way to improve overall I/O-speed performance on the tf300?
Any help is much appreciated.
FYI: My tf300 is rooted, but not unlocked. I prefer to keep it this way, unless there is no option at all to get around these issues without an unlocked device.
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So, the I/O-speed often is the bottleneck for the tf300. I knew this already, just like the most of you probably. It didn't bother me too much, as I didn't have a lot of issues because of it.
Lately I did start to encounter problems with it, because I started to use my tablet for streaming video. The result is that I can watch about 30 seconds of video, have to wait 30 seconds while the device is buffering, can watch another 30 seconds of video, wait for buffering again, and so on....
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i/o can be a problem but this is a bit extreme even for a tf300, what kind of bitrate has that video? raw 4k?
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i/o can be a problem but this is a bit extreme even for a tf300, what kind of bitrate has that video? raw 4k?
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:laugh: No, it is not raw 4k.
The video-stream has a bitrate varying from 0,8 to 1,5 Mbit/s.
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:laugh: No, it is not raw 4k.
The video-stream has a bitrate varying from 0,8 to 1,5 Mbit/s.
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I stream 1080p youtube videos on my tf300t just fine.
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I stream 1080p youtube videos on my tf300t just fine.
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Me too. never had streaming issues on my tab
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I stream 1080p youtube videos on my tf300t just fine.
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Those youtube videos don't play well on my tf300 either, I always have to 'untick' the HD or HQ button in the videos to play them smoothly.
Do you run stock Android with latest OTA updates on your tf300?
I do run stock indeed. Only rooted.
Well, I'll give it a try by completely factory-resetting my tf300. I doubt it will make a difference, but without trying I'll never know.
Resurrecting I see this thread was never resolved, and if the streaming was addressed elswhere I couldn't find it.
Picked up this tablet recently, 4.2.1 rooted stock. Youtube streaming is unwatchable in HD - not enough buffer, but handles HQ or lower fine. Can stream 1080P fine on my desktop, and HD fine on my Razr I and Arc S. Which makes me question, why the inability to cache enough of the video on the TF300T?
Learn from linux
Hmm I stumbled across a few articles, how to improve linux for netbooks. Some involved lowering the writeback to get better I/O-speeds while batterylife gets improved. Maybe one could figure out how much of this applys with Android and the eMMC drive in our tablet and tweak it accordingly.
Best regards.
Kalle.
I had no issues with surdu_petru's overclocked kernels, got around 10000 i.o (sio scheduler) in quadrant, in saying that that kernel got me a score of 7100 on quadrant overall which must be close to the best for tegra 3s?
I have no problem viewing a 720 HD show on the Transformers screen but when I use HDMI to watch it on a TV I get a distinct lag. Is this to be expected or do I have a faulty port?
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What sort of lag? Are you stock? If not, which ROM? Which sort of 720p (encoder/container)? What do you use to watch it? DO yuo use hardware decoding? For audio or video or both?
Using what's in my sig watching 720p MKV on a computer monitor works without lag once I'm overclocked. Stock I can't play 720p mkv without lag even on the tablet. 720p mp4 works without lag on stock and custom ROM without overclock.
I'm on stock and I use Dice as my player. Have to admit that I'm not overly concerned with codecs and such since they all seem to be supported by Dice. Suppose I can take a closer look, but since the Tegra chip has very smooth graphics in games I just assumed there wouldn't be any problems with HD videos.
I guess the lag would be described as dropped frames, sound continues and the video jumps forward half a second or so.
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The encoders/containers can be supported but still require more processing power than your device can offer; that's why you need to overclock to get decent MKV playback but not MP4. Can you try another player perhaps? MX Player does wonders for me with hardware decoding for video and software for audio.
I shall download it and give it a try, what puzzles me is that it is fine on the screen but not on the TV. To be honest I believe the screen have more pixels than the TV.
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So I searched the forum for 'Twitch' and wasn't able to find anything, and I'm seeing spotty answers to whether or not the MK 808/9 can handle streaming from Twitch.tv. I'm OK with fiddling with firmware as well as going Ethernet in order to get the results I'm after, but can anyone give me some real world information on how well these devices handle streaming from Twitch at 720 or 1080? I've spent a lot of time looking for solid answers to this question and I just can't seem to find anything.
u can watch 720p without a problem, but 1080p doesnt work.. too much stuttering
i increased cpu from 1200mhz to 1416mhz and its getting better, but unwatchable (maybe it works with 1.6ghz, but u will need a good cpu cooler, dunno )
so... if the twitch user streams in 1080p (or even higher) and u cant change the resolution.. you´ve got a problem.
iam using finless 1.7c firmware with 2dark4u 1080p Kernel, but im thinking in few months u can watch 1080p without a problem.
btw. 1080p Youtube videos work absolutly fine.
Edit: im using MK808
I've been using Lineage/CM 13 since summer '16 but haven't really played around with watching non-streaming videos since I am always at WiFi. I'm gearing up for a family trip so I started loading them onto my SD card. Many of them are very choppy or do not play at all.
Here is the crux: same files played fine when I was using Civato's 5.0.2 ROM last May. Is this a known issue with the latest versions of Lineage, or was the LP ROM better suited for movies?
Possible issue with my tablet, maybe? Tried MANY different video players. Most with similar results. MX and Archos seem to be the best, but video is still choppy with each.
Switched to Civato's ROM last night. Playback remains choppy and unplayable. Looks like it might be an issue with my tablet after all.
Also, I tried putting the movies on a different SD and on Internal Storage. Same results.