Database Info

Newbie from PalmOS, what to look out for?

Hi everyone,
I have always had PalmOS devices and only PDA's, never any smartphones. I've decided that is time to get a smartphone and start carrying only one device, not numerous.
I am going to purchase a ATT Fuze very soon, within the next few weeks. Being someone who has only owned PalmOS devices and only minimally dabbled on WinMo devices, does anyone have any tips for a newbie? Anything I should look out for?
I already know the first thing I have to do is get used to actually "closing" applications. PalmOS doesn't multi task at all.
And one last question, does anyone sync there Fuzes/Touch Pros with Evolution on Linux?
Thanks. I am very excited to be joining the WinMo and HTC community.
Jason

I have switch from Palm TX to HTC Touch Pro one week ago. It was not easy, because everything is so different and so slooow. The first 3 days I was at the edge throuwing the pda out of the window.
Now many things are functioning. But some main things aren't.
The keyboard isnt that good as my faltable minikeyboard for the TX. But I get used to it. It is now a little better than tapping with the stylus.
Internet on the road is quite good after years of blazer browser, But it is not that good as on the Iphone.
Imap wont synchronising folders wich arent the main folder, dont know why.
Dates and todos were deleted on the PDA. Dont know why exactly. Think it is becaus of the feature of letting one device rule on conflicts instead of copiing them. What a feature.
The small screen is really small for working comfortly.
But after solving some problems I am getting used to some nice things:
Twitter
Emailing
games
that are the highlights so far.
If anybody knows how to sychronize subfolders via IMAP I would be happy for some tips...
LG from Hamburg Olaf Bathke

Hamburg?
Are you located in Hamburg, Michigan?
Anyways, thanks for the tips. I'm a little confused about the dates and todos that you mentioned. Could you explain it a little better? I went and looked at the Fuze in an ATT store the other day. My main goal was to check out the size of that screen because the screen on my Lifedrive is huge compared to it. I decided the hi-res of the Fuze made up for it being 75% as big as the Lifedrive's screen.
When I played with the keyboard, it seemed to feel very nice and easy to use for me. I think it because I previously owned a Sony Clie prior to my lifedrive and the keyboard on that was miserable. I also think it is better then the keyboard on the 8125 and the tilt. Just give it some time, I think you'll get used to it more and more. I can learn on a keyboard with just practice. I used to type on my onscreen keyboard with my thumbs on my lifedrive. All of those just take practice.
Which twitter client did you end up using?
Thanks again,
Jason

Germany!
There is a feature synching: If you have one ToDo sychnt on 2 devices (PC & PDA) and both are changed. One Device keep it. I am not sure if the other device deleted it. I have lots of ToDos being dissapeared on my HTCTP. But I could change the ToDos a little (hit space in title) to let them synch on the PDA again. Maybe you can translate this link via bable fish: http://blogs.technet.com/mkorp/archive/2007/06/07/windows-mobile-device-center-6-1-f-r-vista-32-bit.aspx
I use tinyTwitter but I am not sure if its the best out there. Do you have a better tip?

I will definitely take a look at that link when I have time. I actually speak a moderate amount of German. It is a little rusty though.
On palm I used something called MoTwit. It doesn't appear to have a WinMo version.
I'm going to take a look and see if I can find one similar to that. If I do, I will let you know.
How did you like browsing with Blazer on your T|X? It seems the opera browser is far superior to Blazer. How well does the Opera browser download files?
Thanks for all the responses!
Jason

yes let me know.
The blazer ia a piece of #~+-=9

HTC HD2 vs/or HTC Desire?

Hi all,
I am new to the forum and am in the process of updating my Next G phone. I am limited by time as my current phone [Blackberry Bold 9000] is fast becoming unusable and I will have to make a choice quickly, maybe tomorrow. The HD2 impressed me, especially with the Roms being developed and available. Making Windows more user friendly and taking the phone to its best. Talking with my phone provider - Telstra, they informed me that the HTC Desire is just now on the market and I am reading glowing reports on the latest Android system and the Desire... So I have been researching all I can on these 2 phones. I have only a little Windows mobile experience from some years ago with an Imate, however have no experience with the Android system.
I don't plan on returning to Blackberry and have narrowed my choice to ether the HD2 or the Desire... This phone will be on a renewed 24 month business contract, so is a phone I will "be with" for sometime! I do understand many of the criticisms of Windows mobile and the very positive reaction to the latest Android system. Also that the all new Windows 7 will be available later in the year. The Desire reads very well in its specs and the few reviews that are available have it as the one to beat for 2010? The HD2 has had much more reviews and comment available, having been on the market longer. Many people satisfied with the phone in standard form [and some not so] and many very happy with it in its modified form with custom Rom.... My decision doesn't seem easier.
Some areas I am thinking on are - Will the HD2 become dated quickly, with fewer windows 6.5 apps and less dev work once the totally new Windows 7 becomes available and the new handsets reach the market? Does this make the current Desire with its latest Android system a better long term option as it is not faced with the release of a whole new operating system just around the corner within its brand and apps and updates will continue to grow? Part of me is saying go with my original choice of the HD2 and its big screen, with a custom Rom. AND, part of me is saying go with the new Android Desire.... ohhh and yes I have read reference to Dev work being done on Windows 7 for the HD2 [That's a potential plus]
Unfortunately I am not in a situation of being able to handle and get to know these phones pre purchase. However would be interested to hear the thoughts of others ie: what would have you chose one over the other?
cheers,
Cam...

Welcome to forums,
I would prefer Leo
Have a look here

I've had both What do you want it for? If you need WM for office use get the HD2 otherwise get the desire! Android is much better in a social aspect I would say. The only thing I like about the HD2 was the Sense overlay and it is the same if not better on the desire
Oh and there is a gameboy advanced emulator on the desire which works great... just in case that would be a deciding factor for you

pympster said:
I've had both What do you want it for? If you need WM for office use get the HD2 otherwise get the desire! Android is much better in a social aspect I would say. The only thing I like about the HD2 was the Sense overlay and it is the same if not better on the desire
Oh and there is a gameboy advanced emulator on the desire which works great... just in case that would be a deciding factor for you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Morphgear and Fpsece work well on the HD2.
I must say I prefer the look of the HD2 and the bigger screen, but android is just that much better than WM and thus think you should get the desire.

I am a farmer/rancher and also have a small business importing workwear/casual wear from the USA. I will use the phone for accessing manufacturer websites. Storing photos of my products. Recording expenses, checking weather updates. Email and Instant messaging... I do travel from time to time and recently sat next to a guy on a flight who was wathcing James Bond movies on his Ipod touch. That was neat I did contact HTC Australia a month ago, to see if the HD2 would be released with Android here Down Under, but was told not planned at present and my contact and interest would be passed on. Of course thats what is always said. I have to think long term use out of this phone ie: to 24 months - The Desire seems a great choice, however would the HD2 with an aftermarket custom Rom be equally as good? Which is the best rom around right now? Will Windows 6.5 App availability continue to rise once Windows 7 hits the streets or will it taper off? Android Apps I am sure will continue to grow...

I have a Leo, so far i love it in every way possible. I had an android device before and i think they are a lot easier to use. Yet i still wouldn't trade my Leo for the world

Yes, my personal preference is Android. WM has always proved to be too slow and buggy for me. But hey, it's all about YOUR preference. You can't really go on what we say. 10/10 of us might say get one phone, and you might get it and hate it. Too bad you can't try before you buy on cell phones. :/

I totally agree and am not looking to be told what direction to take. More intertested in hearing why others would choose one phone over the other...
Yep woud great to handle both phones and see them working. I live rural, tho did get into Telstra shop to take a look, but had nothing for me to see working.
Cheers.

cam0063 said:
I totally agree and am not looking to be told what direction to take. More intertested in hearing why others would choose one phone over the other...
Yep woud great to handle both phones and see them working. I live rural, tho did get into Telstra shop to take a look, but had nothing for me to see working.
Cheers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never buy a phone I didn't get to at least play with first. All the videos and reviews in the world couldn't change that.

I like that policy too. However when u live rural, somethings are not possible and research is your best tool...

I would go with the Desire. The HD2 is running Windows Mobile 6.5, which is still pretty much the same underlying Windows CE kernel that's been in use since Windows Mobile 5. Because been confirmed that the HD2 will not recieve an offical Windows Mobile 7 upgrade, meaning your new shiny phone will be obsolete by the end of the year, you likely be stuck with this obsolete operating system forever if you buy this device. The only option would be an unofficial port of Windows Phone 7 to the HD2, but I'm not sure how that is coming along lately.
Conversely, Android is constantly undergoing development, and seeing as the Desire is a top of the line Android device, updates to the latest versions of Android are pretty much guaranteed for that device. The Desire will probably have support for longer than the HD2, considering it won't be obsolete only a few months after you bought it.
I don't think that you could go wrong when choosing a new device, as they're both top of the line smartphones with grade A hardware and XDA behind them, but IMO the Desire is the superior of the two.

cam0063 said:
I like that policy too. However when u live rural, somethings are not possible and research is your best tool...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol, you're talking to a guy who would drive at least an hour no question, just to play with a phone to make sure I liked it. You can't be THAT rural. Can you? o.o

Thanks Dave, I do appreciate all you have said. I did read that Microsoft was not going to allow Windows 7 to be installed on the HD2 and that there were devs out there working on Windows 7 as an unofficial OS for the HD2. The desire is a great option and makes sense, especially for the obvious reasons you mention... I have managed to gain a couple of extra days to make a decision, as I will not be in a mobile service area and not in desperate need of the phone till Monday. Thanks again...

Hi R3s,
I take it you havent been to Australia? At present I am a 6 hour round trip from the nearest Telstra shop. [Telstra is the contracted provider of these phones right now.] Also a week ago, on a visit to the nearest Telstra shop to my home - a 2 hour return trip, I was informed there will be no shop demos available of these phones, only the non functioning store dummies! Which is the norm... I will travel 6 hours for a beer, but not 6 hours to look at a phone!, especially a store dummy So I will keep researching.

Phone & PDA in one

Hi all, newbie here looking for advice and opinions.
I currently have a phone and a separate PDA, a Palm m515. The PDA is reaching the end of its (useful) life now, so I am considering a combined phone and PDA, I use the PDA for taking short notes such as shopping lists, price lists and things to do.
I have sought advice from Vodafone shop and Carphone Warehouse but the staff seemed pretty clueless as to what would meet my needs,
I have been thinking about one of the HTC phones, but obviously am open to suggestions. Also ideally I would like to back up (sync) the notes to my pc.

Welcome to forums
What about this?

Nice but bulky, although very impressive
I would prefer something smaller which is why I was considering something from HTC or similar. Often carry a laptop anyway so UMPC functions aren't needed, just something for quick note taking.

HTC
Then Shift, Athena, Universal or Rhodium...

I would of course recommend the Rhodium, but if you really only need the device to jot down notes with a stylus, probably should get something without a hardware keyboard.

hexpert said:
Hi all, newbie here looking for advice and opinions.
I currently have a phone and a separate PDA, a Palm m515. The PDA is reaching the end of its (useful) life now, so I am considering a combined phone and PDA, I use the PDA for taking short notes such as shopping lists, price lists and things to do.
I have sought advice from Vodafone shop and Carphone Warehouse but the staff seemed pretty clueless as to what would meet my needs,
I have been thinking about one of the HTC phones, but obviously am open to suggestions. Also ideally I would like to back up (sync) the notes to my pc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to the forums
Just about any Windows Mobile device currently on the market fits your needs. What you need to consider (and tell us your opinions on if you want us to give you recommendations) are things like your price range, whether or not you want a physical keyboard and what else you would want to do with it (ie. WiFi, 3G etc.).
You might also want to think about Android, which many people now prefer to WM (although synchronising notes to Outlook wouldn't be easy, if at all possible).

orb3000 said:
Then Shift, Athena, Universal or Rhodium...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the replys.
ORB3000, below are the phones offered by providers here.
HTC Touch P3452
HTC Touch Pro2
HTC Legend
HTC Desire
HTC HD2
are the only HTC phones stocked here and available to me on contract.
Will probably use GPS on occasion, want WI-FI if possible, not worried about hardware keyboard.
Going to look at them again today so will update later on tonight.

How important is having a stylus to you? If it is not important get the HD2.

MooGoo said:
How important is having a stylus to you? If it is not important get the HD2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stylus isn't vital, but I do find it easier to type with, although in my case I always use the M515 on-screen keyboard as the Grafitti function is a pain to use.

hexpert said:
Stylus isn't vital, but I do find it easier to type with, although in my case I always use the M515 on-screen keyboard as the Grafitti function is a pain to use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, from what I hear at least, typing on the HD2 is quite easy because of its big screen. But since it is capacitive stylus's don't work with it.
If those phones you listed are your only choices, then this should be easy.
Forget the HTC Touch P3452, it is too old to be seriously considered at this point.
If a stylus is important to you, and especially if you think a hardware keyboard might come in handy, get the Touch Pro 2.
If you don't care about those features, then the only choice you need to make is whether you want an Android phone, or a WinMo one.
If Android, get the Desire.
If WinMo get the HD2.

Darn !! Had my decision made, now I find out android 2.2 is coming out soon. Anyone know if I can buy the phone now and then upgrade (for free) later on?

Thoughts on the HTC Fuze?

Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.

Fuze is a pretty good cell phone.It's vga lcd is impressing!!!

I use mine daily for work & leisure with a TAEL ROM, works fine for me I like it.
If you can live without a keyboard it may be worth looking at the Diamond 2.
These devices are good but you do need to more technically capable to get the most from them.
Will be sticking to mine for a while as minimal button & no d-pad devices are ****e in the real world, I have yet to see anyone who can type as fast & error free on a touch keyboard.

I've had my fuze since it came out and i love it. I usually run the latest energy rom on mine though and I didn't like the phone near as much without it. So my advice is if you have a little computer know-how and are willing to read the forums the hardware is just fine and everything is here to make the fuze exactly what you want it to be, well aside from the 1Ghz speed and wvga res of the new gen of phones I'd say go for it
Oh and I second the look at the diamond 2 if you don't need hardware keys cause it has a better blue tooth stack, but no keyboard means I won't buy personally

.
pwntatochips said:
Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for around 100 bucks its a really solid phone assuming you only need english load up the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751 energy rom(id suggust cookie 23xxx builds) and all those problems disappear (except camera, still as in reviews)
once you put the new roms on it you would think it was released in late 2009

So does any one know what are the best roms and changes?

it all depends on which phone did you previously used...if you have used low level phone..then definately you will like this......i love this phone.....especially when using energy roms.....as previously i had htc opal.....

I had the HTC Fuze and the problem with these phone with a keyboard is that it will eventually break over time. The phone was also thick and heavy. Oh yeah, the D-pad was practically unusable. I dont know if the Touch Pro shares the same problem as the Fuze. Anyways the main thing that got me to sell the phone was the keyboard breaking.

the board will break????

Until 12AM tonight to decide PLEASE ADVISE

I have until 12AM tonight to decide if I accept a 7 Pro / HTC Arrive for £120.
The offer is tempting however having researched WM7 I just don't know if I should wait and get a cheap TP2 with 6.5 instead.
It seems everything I loved about WM6.5 is gone in WM7 which appears to be more like an iOS interface and locked out of many apps. I know there is some improvement in Mango but this just seems to be more of an enhancement over the original canvas.
Currently using a TP1 but the keys have worn out.
Any contributions would be appreciated.

matt09 said:
I have until 12AM tonight to decide if I accept a 7 Pro / HTC Arrive for £120.
The offer is tempting however having researched WM7 I just don't know if I should wait and get a cheap TP2 with 6.5 instead.
It seems everything I loved about WM6.5 is gone in WM7 which appears to be more like an iOS interface and locked out of many apps. I know there is some improvement in Mango but this just seems to be more of an enhancement over the original canvas.
Currently using a TP1 but the keys have worn out.
Any contributions would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you use your phone for? What would you want to use your phone for?
How much does the apps matter to you? What apps do you 'need'?
Are you into Music subscriptions? Are you into Xbox games?

I don't use an Xbox and am not interested in music subscriptions.
I don't tend to use it for internet much either, mainly calls and texts but I have alot of rare apps relating to hobbies like tone signal generators and other stuff, it seems all of these would be gone.
Is it true that the phone can still not be accessed as a drive and has to go through web software still as this really puts me off the device.

matt09 said:
I don't use an Xbox and am not interested in music subscriptions.
I don't tend to use it for internet much either, mainly calls and texts but I have alot of rare apps relating to hobbies like tone signal generators and other stuff, it seems all of these would be gone.
Is it true that the phone can still not be accessed as a drive and has to go through web software still as this really puts me off the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think in that case 6.5 is mostly a better choice. However the Gen1 phones have gone to a stage full unlock where you could use the root tools to edit registry, custom ROMs, use file explorers, advanced config tool etc - that lets you use your phone to side load apps, more or less as an usb drive too. However, I am not very sure if all your apps can come with you. The kernel is different and I am pretty sure there will be limitations to it.

I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks

matt09 said:
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i personally have an htc 7 pro which is the arrive. and i can say after 10/11 month of use, its a really good phone. i have all the apps that i need, and WP7 is just the future, and dont look back on wm6.5. or do you still run you PC on a win95??? just look in the future, there are coming all the apps that you need for wp7 in the future, but the new ones arent coming to wm6.5.
and the future for wp7 holds a new system, which is about to come later this year. i mea nthe wp8. and all thing tend that its an update that all users of wp7 get. sooner or later

matt09 said:
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not at the moment. The system is pretty much locked down and secured. Even if someone is able to have custom ROMs on most WP7.5 phones, I think they might prefer making custom WP7.5 ROMs. It might be hard to find a ROM chef willing to port a WM6.5 to WP7.5 hardware!

drupad2drupad said:
Not at the moment. The system is pretty much locked down and secured
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok thanks that pretty much settles it then, i just wish it was possible to upgrade the TP2 hardware there seems to be no equivalent other than the expensive Droid phones

matt09 said:
Ok thanks that pretty much settles it then, i just wish it was possible to upgrade the TP2 hardware there seems to be no equivalent other than the expensive Droid phones
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you not keep your old phone as your toy for hobbies and get a new WP7 phone? You never know you might like it! Plus in a few months or even a year while you continue your hobbies on the old phone, someone might be able to think of having 6.5 on WP7 (to me I will still be surprised if anyone wants to go back!)?
I am saying this with a huge stone on my heart and bitting a few too many bullets but ---
IF you think one of the droid boys can let you use your old hobby apps on those phones, get a droid.

I have the 7 Pro and I have to say it really is a great phone. I wouldnt go back to TP2 or similar anymore.