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im brand new to all of this and just purchased my tilt. Im actually really overwhelmed with all of the info on this site and have no idea where to start? any suggestions?
thanks,
nick
wondrbred123 said:
im brand new to all of this and just purchased my tilt. Im actually really overwhelmed with all of the info on this site and have no idea where to start? any suggestions?
thanks,
nick
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My advice is to start where most of us started the 3rd sticky down, faq's, wiki, and just trial and error. There is a lot of info but it will all come in handy. Just by doing the stuff yourself and getting your hands dirty, you will have a better grasp on everything. And there is not a lot of personal hand holding here because of all the information. But welcome, and once you start this you won't stop, it really fun!
wondrbred123 said:
im brand new to all of this and just purchased my tilt. Im actually really overwhelmed with all of the info on this site and have no idea where to start? any suggestions?
thanks,
nick
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It's all in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Just read, read everthing
You need HardSPL before you can flash anything. And your ROM and Radio must be compatable when you flash. What that means is explained in there.
Ta
Dave
thanks for the feedback
Consider this a friendly warning. First Post is a New Thread, not a good start. You are violating the "laws of the land." Search for your answer. Read the Wikis and Stickies! Post your question in relevant thread.
I have over 1000 posts and I've created 0 threads. Because I post my questions in relevant threads.
Anyway, Welcome to XDA-Developers.
Have a look at the Information in my Signature.
I agree
I did it all myself... I just got my tilt last wednesday... takes some reading but it sure beats getting flamed.
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Welcome to XDA!
Whenever joining a new forum, like visiting a good friends house, learn the customs & house rules straight away.
Take time to read the forum stickie threads at the top of each forum section. Your biggest helper will be the Stickies & the wiki. It's also a good idea to take a look at some of the older threads, specifically Blue Angel & Hermes when it comes to tools as you will learn much of the theory & knowledge that has gone into the tools most take for granted today.
Also, PLEASE post in the appropriate place! The development thread is for Developmental knowledge & issues only.
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It'll be a lot better to keep people organized. People keep asking the exact same questions in the forums because they're not reading through every single post, and frankly, who wants to?
If we keep everything in the wiki pages, we update the information once and it'll be like having a nicely-formatted OP for everything related to development, especially now that the GB root just came out, people are gonna have more questions and we could keep them updated with the latest links to tools, etc.
Just a thought.
I wholly agree with you.
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[email protected] and I were supposed to start it up and keep it up to date. But I unfortunately did not do my part I got lazy. SORRY theGeeko!
here is the original thread about the wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093707
and here is the wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G
I might throw this golmar88's way as he has created and updates the Bible. IMHO, I feel with little devs on this phone and only 1 moderator, things got messy in here SUPER FAST! with us all being noobs, ive seen questions asked quicker than typing in a search in google. Its like people post/start new threads and clutter the forums rather than PM'ing the OP or someone who may have an answer. I try to frequent each sub-forum to assist where i can, but now its impossible because of the new threads being posted every day.
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[email protected] and I were supposed to start it up and keep it up to date. But I unfortunately did not do my part I got lazy. SORRY theGeeko!
here is the original thread about the wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093707
and here is the wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G
I might throw this golmar88's way as he has created and updates the Bible. IMHO, I feel with little devs on this phone and only 1 moderator, things got messy in here SUPER FAST! with us all being noobs, ive seen questions asked quicker than typing in a search in google. Its like people post/start new threads and clutter the forums rather than PM'ing the OP or someone who may have an answer. I try to frequent each sub-forum to assist where i can, but now its impossible because of the new threads being posted every day.
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I'm so down to pitch in 'cause then we can just post a link to the wiki instead of repeating ourselves and if someone winds up finding a better way to do something, they get the latest version of the fix in the wiki. I'll look into editing a few things, it's just a matter of getting the devs to get into it too.
Pretty sure you can't edit the wiki from the XDA app though.
Idk know if anyone has done the wiki yet that's not on the forums but I could try and make one if someone wants to compile the main forum links to me via email or pm ill start working on it tomarrow... ill only do it with permissions from the devs b/c there the tru soldiers working there ass off to make it all possible. Also the wiki could include a way for the devs to find testers on lastst developments.
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Idk know if anyone has done the wiki yet that's not on the forums but I could try and make one if someone wants to compile the main forum links to me via email or pm ill start working on it tomarrow... ill only do it with permissions from the devs b/c there the tru soldiers working there ass off to make it all possible. Also the wiki could include a way for the devs to find testers on lastst developments.
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Looks like we can use the XDA wiki. You can check out golmar's SGS4G bible thread for the main things that the devs have been making:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
Edit: FB beat me to it.
Bumping thread, wound up adding the "Resources" section to the main page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G#Resources
Wound up adding a new page with a partial list of CWM ROMs. I'll finish it later. (Took the list from golmar's bible)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G_ROMs
I noticed a lot of users repeatedly asking the same questions in new pages of threads since it's really hard to read through the whole thread to find solutions. It took me 10 mins reading the manual on how to edit the wiki to figure out how to do this.
Hopefully in the near future we can have updated guides (since anyone can update them) which won't be restricted to a single author. Life gets in the way and people may not update the posts to include new info. This way we can start linking users to guides/info on the wiki instead of repeating or venting frustration at them.
Later tonight I will be putting up a Galaxy S 4G wiki page. The goal of this page will be to help explain procedures for flashing, roms, rooting, etc, provide answers to commonly asked questions, as well as troubleshooting tips, how to make logcats, etc. This should help noobs to the phone by providing a one stop resource for all their information and a first place to look before asking a question.
I will provide the link here once it is up. I will be doing a lot of writing for the wiki, but of course information updating is encouraged.
If anyone would be interested in helping moderate the wiki, please contact me via PM.
Do you mean something like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V
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Do you mean something like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V
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Wow!
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Ahh! didn't know there was one up. Kind of, but what I want to do would need a lot more than one page. Featuring a full FAQ, flashing guides, descriptions of all the roms, etc. A complete resource. I'll look at that one though and see if I can work with it. A lot of that stuff is out of date.
Also sorry for posting this in the wrong section. I could of swarn I clicked on General.
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Ahh! didn't know there was one up. Kind of, but what I want to do would need a lot more than one page. Featuring a full FAQ, flashing guides, descriptions of all the roms, etc. A complete resource. I'll look at that one though and see if I can work with it. A lot of that stuff is out of date.
Also sorry for posting this in the wrong section. I could of swarn I clicked on General.
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What is out of date about that Wiki? I already requested this thread be deleted. There is even a stickie the general section about the Wiki.
Yeah, my apologies, don't know how I missed that. I had assumed there wasn't a wiki due to how many threads started asking the same questions over an over again. I guess some people just don't try.
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I guess some people just don't try.
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Hahaha.... I feel ya... with as many references all over this forum to the wiki.... some people just don't try.
If can please add some termal line command. Thanks
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If can please add some termal line command. Thanks
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Are you saying you want to add them? I believe the wiki can be updated by anyone. If you're asking for someone else to do it, I'm sure we can throw something together. The questions I have are if you're looking for adb commands, shell commands available on the stock ROM, general Linux commands, what BusyBox adds, or what?
I'm still going to make a wiki as I feel it deserves a full wiki instead of just a page, for navigation, etc. It will be up soon as I'm in the middle of a server move.
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With the amount of knowledge that is about in the G3 forum, I wanted to try getting a thread going that would be specific to development tutorials so that people like myself, who are interested in getting into development, have a wealth of knowledge and expertise of established devs at their disposal.
So at this stage I would request that devs such as HillBeast, Rubensollie, Marcellusbe, kyrillos, J. Purungrit, Mohanshbhr, The Dark Lest at, Rudolf895, or anyone else with great tutorials, or knowledge to developed tutorials post them here.
I realise it is a lot to ask of devs to post tutorials as they will more than likely already be busy with their own projects. But I feel that a thread like this will open up doors for some talented people who may be able to provide some new and interesting roms/features and maybe even help each other out with bug fixs for existing ports.
Sorry mods if this thread is unneeded.
Please guys, share knowledge so we can all learn and help grow
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sorry, but I'm not a dev ...all the tutorials/guides of making roms and stuff are in this forum already....so all you need to do, is SEARCH!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046306
We already have tutorials and threads and I think making a new one wouldn't be that beneficial.
A wiki, on the other hand....
There are a set of tutorial by Rudolf on Youtube. He had posted in on XDA too. That is the best set of tutorials. And also, certain tools like QtADB, APKMultitool are very useful.
Was more looking to try and keep all tuts within one thread. Easier to read all tuts and collate info that way. Although as suggested a wiki would probably work better
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Was more looking to try and keep all tuts within one thread. Easier to read all tuts and collate info that way. Although as suggested a wiki would probably work better
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We could just make a wiki page, then i will be interested to write some tuts
Thanks to everyone for the 400 thankses!
I am making a wiki for sg3 which will have all the lit of roms, kernels, tuts, etc. Would have the rom making tut too. I really don't have any work just now so......
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Looking for a free wiki site maker or sth like that. If anyone knows, please tell
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I am making a wiki for sg3 which will have all the lit of roms, kernels, tuts, etc. Would have the rom making tut too. I really don't have any work just now so......
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You could use google sites for that: LINK
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You could use google sites for that: LINK
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Thanks. I started with this - http://sg3.wikidot.com
But its hell of alot complicated. Many things are not working and i think they have there own set of rules. (coding rules i mean)
ak700 said:
Thanks. I started with this - http://sg3.wikidot.com
But its hell of alot complicated. Many things are not working and i think they have there own set of rules. (coding rules i mean)
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Ok, just search for something good, and when youre done with the main thing, i can write something.
I have created a basic site - www.sg3.webs.com
Just updated the rom index.
Would gather all info and publish it tomorrow. Will get some sleep
I was contemplating making a wiki myself when I wrote the above post, and look and what has happend since; somebody else made one!
I'll help out with writing stuff once I'm finally able to keep my hands off of my new sgt 10.1.
Just remember, be as modular as possible. That's the whole point of wiki, not repeating work.
ex. make one page for adb and subsections on that page for each command, and when a command is needed in a tut or something just link to the subsection
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I was contemplating making a wiki myself when I wrote the above post, and look and what has happend since; somebody else made one!
I'll help out with writing stuff once I'm finally able to keep my hands off of my new sgt 10.1.
Just remember, be as modular as possible. That's the whole point of wiki, not repeating work.
ex. make one page for adb and subsections on that page for each command, and when a command is needed in a tut or something just link to the subsection
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Well you could pm me what all you want to out on the wiki and i would add it. Why make 2 separate wikis?
Im not gonna make a new wiki
So its not gonna be a "true" wiki where users can register and edit it? Why didn't you make one of those?
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I was contemplating making a wiki myself when I wrote the above post, and look and what has happend since; somebody else made one!
I'll help out with writing stuff once I'm finally able to keep my hands off of my new sgt 10.1.
Just remember, be as modular as possible. That's the whole point of wiki, not repeating work.
ex. make one page for adb and subsections on that page for each command, and when a command is needed in a tut or something just link to the subsection
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@ stubborn_d0nkey, when I posted the initial post, this is actually the information that I was suggesting would be made available. Once stop shop for ALL rom building information...
I sent a pm to one of our mods asking if we can get the sticky threads cleaned up. By this I mean unsticky some of the ones that are outdated and no longer maintained by current users of this device.
Im basing this on my own ideas and this post by FB.
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Solrac, it might be better if you would concentrate your efforts on updating our wiki since some information has already been repeated a few times, particularly the roms list. If you wind up putting them in the wiki then other users can edit it once you decide to not update this thread. I've seen it happen to at least two other threads already which is why team acid have moved some of our instructions to the wiki.
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We have so much stuff stickied in the general sub that is out of date. In the development sub there is a couple threads that are no longer maintained.
My question is do you agree we need some of these threads removed from the list of stickies? Ill have a poll please select agree or disagree. If you want to post a response please do, but lets keep this civil aight?
Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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Looks like it's time for YOU to edit the wiki and add a guide that works for you.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I have thought about making a update guide like the bible thread but every time I start I have never finished. Im not fond of the wiki for some of the reasons twisted spoke about, however it can be useful.
Is there a person that is notified when edits are made? So we can make sure the proper info is put on it? Ive never paid enough attention to that aspect.
There's a history option in the wiki that lets you view the latest edits, and see what exactly go changed. (It's up top in the navigation)
The thing is that the lack of information can be addressed by adding it. Twisted said there were no Odin guides, well we can add them. There's no real reason why we shouldn't be using it. I know everyone wants to start their thread with their guide on how to do things their way, but there has to be an accepted method of doing things. I've written up a few of the guides on the Wiki but then someone else comes along and improves it with a better method that is more up to date. That's how it should be, you don't have to go to MY thread to try and edit it or try to get me to update it. You can just go in and do it yourself.
Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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You're completely missing the point.
Let me make it easier.
If info is not in wiki, put info in wiki.
I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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No one can stop another user/troll from putting bad, offensive, or just plan misinformation out there. The maintenance of the wiki is a community effort. Thus we are all responsible for updating it and cleaning it up.
I do like the idea of checks and balances, though. What we need for that effort are maintainers. On top of the community making updates we could have a few people that collaborate to help keep the wiki clean, up to date, etc. The trick would be getting volunteers for Team Wiki (wicked? Wikid! lol) that can put the time and effort into the moderation of the wiki.
Just my 2ȼ.
Nvm, just checked the wiki and it has either been updated or i was blind before, cuz everything i used is in the wiki...
. I'm glad you see that. If someone updates it and starts screwing with the wiki a moderator can always step in. It's basically like the forums, we can't stop you from posting, but once you've posted something that you shouldn't have, we can remove it. We can do the same on the wiki, it keeps track of the edit history, we can always revert to a good version.
Check out this nice list of ROMs available for our phone. It's the most up to date one (thanks to solrac who just updated the list of custom mtd roms portion)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/List_of_ROMs
Thanks FB that was what I was wanting to know. I have the same reservations as anonymous and Stephen. Ive seen wikipedia edited and things slipped until somebody caught it.
Ive spoke with TRusselo and if we can come up with a list of the threads that need to be cleaned and unstuck he is willing to look into is. However since he doesnt own the phone he did not want to jump in unstickying threads willy nilly. I had planned on posting earlier today but I spent a good part of my day fixing bicycles so I can take my kiddo bike riding.
Ill be out most of tomorrow but Ill try to post my list sometime and if any of you want to also suggest it would be great. My thinking is we can always link to the threads via the wiki and maybe create a new version of the bible thread and the FAQ thread Mr. Clown created.
If you want to make suggestions please list which sub the thread is in and the thread name no need to link it. The final list will have links when I submit it to TRusselo.
Well I can say once this idea is completed it will be a lot more user friendly...
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General Sub
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
Froyo flashing guide not really needed since we are on GB, CM7, and now CM9.
Most of the information in this thread is general rules and mostly common sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
This one too has some forum rules and common sense stuff posted. Maybe condense it with the one above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
This one is a PSA and again something that is part of the main rules.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195027
This one is very informative but maybe when Juls updates it he can post it on the wiki.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480418
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Q & A sub
This is a old guide that has since been changed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215748
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Development Sub
Since this thread is very out of date it needs to be unstuck. Most information in this thread has changed and is no longer relevant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
This thread the info is out of date. The second post is useful but the first one is out of date.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
This one if we get official support of RM it will be outdated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305560
All of the above is open for suggestions or even tell me certain threads need to stay as stickies. Im just looking to trim the sticky list down.
I was also thinking each sub could have a thread that has links to the wiki for things. That way even if the person that creates it leaves and never comes back the wiki links will be the same. Then the threads can be linked on the wiki and if a thread is out dated it can be removed from the wiki.
Looks like good suggestions so far.
As far as recreating the bible thread, we can easily do that in the wiki. The roms portion is pretty much set except for roms that haven't been released yet.
The dev stickies are definitely the ones we should get rid of. right now we have 6 stickied threads. They take up a lot of room before getting to the latest content from dev threads.
I agree with creating a bible in the wiki, I was suggesting linking to it in a sticky. I tend to have a hard time expressing my thoughts in few words. I mean you have read some of my posts .
Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
Eollie if you want make a stickie of the rom wiki because I always update this wiki
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Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
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I have not yet had an opportunity to look through your list. Seems FB read through it and I know I trust his opinion. I will look through it later. Thanks for taking the time to get this going.