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I am interested in volunteering some time into helping to improve the XDA Wiki in order to bring a balance to the FORUM + WIKI equation. Who among this community has time (and is willing) to assist?
In addition to this post, I have brought the issue up with Dave Shaw who is the sysop of the Wiki.
ill spare some time since im always in here answering questions. I was going to ask Mr clown too make some stickies
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Thanks fknfocused. If we use the Wiki properly, we can avoid having to tax Mr Clown with routine details... And, while stickies in forums are nice, they create a bottleneck since they are so tightly controlled.
I created a group for Galaxy S 4G Owners (http://forum.xda-developers.com/group.php?groupid=421) which you may be interested in. I am simply looking for ways to help us help ourselves better...
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Thanks fknfocused. If we use the Wiki properly, we can avoid having to tax Mr Clown with routine details... And, while stickies in forums are nice, they create a bottleneck since they are so tightly controlled.
I created a group for Galaxy S 4G Owners (http://forum.xda-developers.com/group.php?groupid=421) which you may be interested in. I am simply looking for ways to help us help ourselves better...
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let me know what I could do to help, and HOPEFULLY new folks can search and read before creating new threads every 30 seconds.
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let me know what I could do to help, and HOPEFULLY new folks can search and read before creating new threads every 30 seconds.
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yes that is true noobs are flooding threads with random answers to just increase there posts to 10 so they can advance.
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fknfocused said:
let me know what I could do to help, and HOPEFULLY new folks can search and read before creating new threads every 30 seconds.
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That is one problem; another is that old-timers post with a "+1" to mean they agree... I see that there is a request outstanding to add an "AGREE" button (like the "THANKS" one)...
The first thing that we need to do is to identify what information needs to be added. In the wiki, there has not been a GS4G page created yet. I've put a stub on my User page... This is one cause for all the noob questions in the fora, I am guessing. Since, at present, searches do not exist on the wiki side.
The things that are specific to the GS4G are the ROM Mods, kernel, and CWM (which, of course, is still beta)...
Announcement: New Wiki Page evolving
Now, when one searches the XDA-Developers Wiki for "Galaxy S 4G," the researcher will be directed to an emerging Wiki page about the SGS4G. Further, if one searches for "Nandroid Backup," the search engine provides a list of links:
General Reference
Specific Reference
Among other results
As stated in my previous postings here, together we can improve XDA-Developers by adding content to the Wiki which balances the content of the Fora (which are abundantly active!).
Again I ask, "Would you please help us in this venture?"
Resurect old thread.
[email protected] said:
Now, when one searches the XDA-Developers Wiki for "Galaxy S 4G," the researcher will be directed to an emerging Wiki page about the SGS4G. Further, if one searches for "Nandroid Backup," the search engine provides a list of links:
General Reference
Specific Reference
Among other results
As stated in my previous postings here, together we can improve XDA-Developers by adding content to the Wiki which balances the content of the Fora (which are abundantly active!).
Again I ask, "Would you please help us in this venture?"
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Just putting this back at the top of the 'unread' list... maybe people will start jumping on the 'update the wiki' bandwagon.
I put some general guides on there. But what exactly should go on there?
Edit: Some user updates to this page is a pretty good place to start, I suppose.
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Bhund started this thread a while back
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419696
isn't that practically the same as this?
I'm game to help in any way I can.
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Wait we have a WIKI? I've been around for a little while and I didn't know that. Maybe the first step would be to get the news out in a forum layout. Meaning sticky the link. Maybe put it into the subforum listing? Sounds like a great way to put all the resources available here into an easy to use format. I don't know much about how it works but if I can help let me know.
hechoen said:
Wait we have a WIKI? I've been around for a little while and I didn't know that. Maybe the first step would be to get the news out in a forum layout. Meaning sticky the link. Maybe put it into the subforum listing? Sounds like a great way to put all the resources available here into an easy to use format. I don't know much about how it works but if I can help let me know.
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The basic wiki format is easy to learn. Just hit edit and see how the page is actually organized.
I updated the Gingerbread section on the Samsung Galaxy S 4G ROMs wiki page to place sort of a general template. I left out the ones based on leaks as they are pretty outdated.
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vgcraze said:
The basic wiki format is easy to learn. Just hit edit and see how the page is actually organized.
I updated the Gingerbread section on the Samsung Galaxy S 4G ROMs wiki page to place sort of a general template. I left out the ones based on leaks as they are pretty outdated.
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Thanks!
10char
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Thanks!
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No problem
Bump:
The two wiki pages have been made to be pretty useful now. I hope you all will check them out and guide new users to the page
Samsung Galaxy S 4G
Samsung Galaxy S 4G ROMs
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Dude awesome work on the ROM list. So nice and clean!
Good to know that there has been interest in the SGS4G Wiki. And what a resource it has become!!
Remember, each page that gets added should also be added to the Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G category:
There's also a group for Galaxy S 4G owners...
Also, there is a group for Galaxy S 4G owners... Don't forget to add yourself to that, if interested in collaborating...
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Wait... Maybe the first step would be to get the news out in a forum layout. Meaning sticky the link. Maybe put it into the subforum listing?
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Excellent suggestion. Has this been done? If not, how do we do it?
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Excellent suggestion. Has this been done? If not, how do we do it?
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We need to contact lufc since he's a mod.
Suggestion Thread
Thought it was about time we had a thread that you can make suggestions on how to improve the Droid forums or anything you feel needs changing in the Forums.
And Please no Stupid or Imposable suggestions
Thanks Guys
Lufc
Oh. BTW, Can you sticky the IRC Chat thread and the EE4 How To Root thread. Meant to mention that in my letter and forgot.
Ok people Lets break this down. LUFC has no power to change the site, how it works, the search engines, the way it looks, the name of it, etc etc. He can however, lock, unlock threads. Move threads. Change other's post to remove profanity, sexual content, derogatory statements ....... He can also ban and unban people from the Droid Charge forum. If you have any other questions, Let me know. I'll get with him offline. He has 4 forums to Mod and doesn't need to be bombarded with stuff like, "Can you Change my siggy size?" No he cannot. So don't ask for stuff that changes XDA website as a whole. If it does not pertain to the Droid Charge forum, or if you are questionable if its a question for LUFC. ASK ME FIRST. I'm very easy person to get along with and always willing to help.
I agree w/ Dragonstalker. we need more stickys. the basics, like booting to recovery, using odin, cwm etc. things that appear in too many threads.
I agree more stickies, a lot of import things that have been explained get pushed to the bottom and then people ask again.
Also, I do not know if you have the authority to do that but make a roms section. Keep Dev for fixes and tweaks. If that can be done i'd say a help section too. I do suspect you can't and it is admin set. I say this because if it's something enough people want in this forum then we can contact the admin
other than that keep up the good work mod
Here are my requests that I've felt are really needed.
Unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
That is hands down the best and easiest guide to follow and without it I would not have been able to root/ROM/lagfix my Charge, there was really no need for it to be locked in the first place.
Sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144885
Awesome mod, haven't encountered any problems with it at all. Just a simple reboot into CWM and install .zip from SD card and it's finished!
Thanks for the suggestions and the impossable ones
Just one point on the stickys if we stuck everything that was of importance we would have the first page full of stickys so what we do is to have a Roll up Sticky Thread and this has been kindly done by nitsuj17 HERE
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{List} Roms/Kernels/Mods/Themes 7.10.11
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and because all the info is in that page and a link to them it should be your first point of call if you need something.
But if you do see anything that needs adding to the roll up thread then please do get in contact.
And just to Answer knyghtryda Question he Suggested the Mod for the camera shutter to be a sticky but as you can see in the Roll Up Thred it was already stuck but thanks for the suggestion knyghtryda
And scarygood536 suggested A separate area for ROMS but XDA will not allow this but the roll up thread is broken down into sections and all the roms are listed in once place thanks scarygood536
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I am kinda new here, but it took me awhile to figure out what nitsuji's sticky was all about. It would be good to maby change the title a little to say that it contains "how too's" in it so the newbies like myself can go there first to find answers! just a thought!
P.s. I love this site!
Still going to request that the linked thread gets an unlock :] There was really no need for it to be locked in the first place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
blarrick said:
Still going to request that the linked thread gets an unlock :] There was really no need for it to be locked in the first place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
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It's Locked because the instructions are already there. The only thing the post by others have done in that thread is cause confusion to those that are new and take away from the OP.
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Thanks for the suggestions and the impossable ones
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I think we need automated spell checking... haha j/k.
It would be nice to sticky a request thread or something of that nature. If there even is one. That way some people can put in there input about stuff to add to roms and other tweaks that developers could try and work on. I think this would be a lot easier than having a hundred random threads with requests on them.
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It would be nice to sticky a request thread or something of that nature. If there even is one. That way some people can put in there input about stuff to add to roms and other tweaks that developers could try and work on. I think this would be a lot easier than having a hundred random threads with requests on them.
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Or you could just make your suggestions on the ROM's thread. After all, that is what the threads for each individual rom is for
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Or you could just make your suggestions on the ROM's thread. After all, that is what the threads for each individual rom is for
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I meant for more general stuff that will work with all roms and not just one specific rom. As in if no one made the camera app where you could take a picture with the power button some one could have put in the request in this thread.
mendez815 said:
I meant for more general stuff that will work with all roms and not just one specific rom. As in if no one made the camera app where you could take a picture with the power button some one could have put in the request in this thread.
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PM me more specific about your ideal and i'll work on it.
Any chance on a FAQ subsection in the Development section? Might make it a little more clear as to where questions go. I see them posted in Development all the time
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Any chance on a FAQ subsection in the Development section? Might make it a little more clear as to where questions go. I see them posted in Development all the time
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Not really much you can put in the dev section as far as FAQ's. Dev section is only for devs. If people are posting questions in there, which i can't do anything about. Its just because they are not looking in the General section and reading welcome message.
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Not really much you can put in the dev section as far as FAQ's. Dev section is only for devs. If people are posting questions in there, which i can't do anything about. Its just because they are not looking in the General section and reading welcome message.
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Oh ok. I just figured if there was a section titled FAQ or Questions it might help
Requesting a sticky on; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186798
I understand you don't want to clutter the front page but that's a nice collection of all the dialer codes confirmed to work for the Charge. Really useful, IMO.
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Requesting a sticky on; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186798
I understand you don't want to clutter the front page but that's a nice collection of all the dialer codes confirmed to work for the Charge. Really useful, IMO.
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Added it to the roll up sticky thread
Thanks for the suggestion
Ok, it's pretty sad that the SGS4G forum has the issues that is does. I have another phone and have been in it's XDA forum as well, to see that people in there aren't as lazy and stupid as some are in this forum. They actually READ the OP, search for answers to their questions before posting them and when they cannot find the answers, then they post to the forum in the appropriate spots with logcat (if available) included! Amazing isn't it... This is why we have lost DEVs. STUPIDITY!
Did you know (and I speak form experience) that if you do not read and follow an OP on how to flash a ROM you could end up with:
1) A bricked phone (super hard bricked too... meaning, NON RECOVERABLE!)
2) A trashed sim card (yeah, I know it isn't that abd, but it is still a pain in the ass to call and deal with customer support to order a new one and then go to the store to pick it up or skip the call and go down to your service provider and pay up to 35 bucks for a new one... that can get pricey after just a few "I do what I want" flash mistakes.
3) A bad flash resulting in an unstable unusable ROM. And then when you decide to flash it correctly, you have lost that time...forever... Oh, and let's not forget the time and space you wasted on here asking the same question 300 other dummies already asked.
There are so many BAD possibilities that could result in not following directions. Didn't your momma teach you to follow directions? There was a reason for it! Plus, didn't your daddy teach you to help yourself first, and then when you had exhausted all options, ask for help?
Granted, I have made these same mistakes before. But I have learned. But there just seems to be SOOOOOOO many of you that just don't get it! To the point that I have actually seen some one ask the a question by quoting the post that contained the answer! That is purely STUPID!
Is this a flame? You damn right it is! But I am not only here to vent my frustrations out on you, but to help you.
Read the rules aka The Ten Commandments, they are simple and easy to follow (I will make a pictorial upon request):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
If you are Noob, which means you have never, or only done it once or twice, flashed a ROM, theme, etc, here is a great link for you to ask many of your questions:
Universal Question Solver
Now before you post in the DEV section assuming you have trolled and spam other forums, use this link to guide you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
Read the ENTIRE OP for christs sake!
After all that is done, like maybe 10-20 minutes of your time then post a thread IN THE APPROPRIATE SECTION, or reply to a thread with your questions or issues WITH A LOGCAT! Oh, and it doesn't have to be the entire logcat, just the part that pertains to your issue. If you do not know how to read your logcat, you can always post it for free, after registering, here:
pastebin.com
Please guys, FOR THE LOVE OF OUR PHONES, lets try to lay nicely and by the rules...
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Ok, it's pretty sad that the SGS4G forum has the issues that is does. I have another phone and have been in it's XDA forum as well, to see that people in there aren't as lazy and stupid as some are in this forum. They actually READ the OP, search for answers to their questions before posting them and when they cannot find the answers, then they post to the forum in the appropriate spots with logcat (if available) included! Amazing isn't it... This is why we have lost DEVs. STUPIDITY!
Did you know (and I speak form experience) that if you do not read and follow an OP on how to flash a ROM you could end up with:
1) A bricked phone (super hard bricked too... meaning, NON RECOVERABLE!)
2) A trashed sim card (yeah, I know it isn't that abd, but it is still a pain in the ass to call and deal with customer support to order a new one and then go to the store to pick it up or skip the call and go down to your service provider and pay up to 35 bucks for a new one... that can get pricey after just a few "I do what I want" flash mistakes.
3) A bad flash resulting in an unstable unusable ROM. And then when you decide to flash it correctly, you have lost that time...forever... Oh, and let's not forget the time and space you wasted on here asking the same question 300 other dummies already asked.
There are so many BAD possibilities that could result in not following directions. Didn't your momma teach you to follow directions? There was a reason for it! Plus, didn't your daddy teach you to help yourself first, and then when you had exhausted all options, ask for help?
Granted, I have made these same mistakes before. But I have learned. But there just seems to be SOOOOOOO many of you that just don't get it! To the point that I have actually seen some one ask the a question by quoting the post that contained the answer! That is purely STUPID!
Is this a flame? You damn right it is! But I am not only here to vent my frustrations out on you, but to help you.
Read the rules aka The Ten Commandments, they are simple and easy to follow (I will make a pictorial upon request):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
If you are Noob, which means you have never, or only done it once or twice, flashed a ROM, theme, etc, here is a great link for you to ask many of your questions:
Universal Question Solver
Now before you post in the DEV section assuming you have trolled and spam other forums, use this link to guide you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
Read the ENTIRE OP for christs sake!
After all that is done, like maybe 10-20 minutes of your time then post a thread IN THE APPROPRIATE SECTION, or reply to a thread with your questions or issues WITH A LOGCAT! Oh, and it doesn't have to be the entire logcat, just the part that pertains to your issue. If you do not know how to read your logcat, you can always post it for free, after registering, here:
pastebin.com
Please guys, FOR THE LOVE OF OUR PHONES, lets try to lay nicely and by the rules...
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Nice
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20030358
This has been my homework lately. I think it would help the community to read the same thing. Although it may not really matter. As the warden in Cool Hand Luke so eloquently said, "Some men you just can't reach." I'm also going to try and learn how to read the darn things so I can try to help out even further. But since I'm not terribly familiar with Linux commands it may take a little while.
Thread bump. And sorry dude but the world needs more bass
http://notreble.com
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Jules is it necessary to quote long post? Really?
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thomas
I here you. It's been done before. People just don't get it. Vent away though.
Jules
What lumin said. A simple nice would have sufficed.
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Thread bump. And sorry dude but the world needs more bass
http://notreble.com
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Thank you Bassmanjames... For being the prime example of the f**king jackasses that I am talking about. What the hell does a site about bass guitars adn crap have to do with anything I said. I am glad I put this up... We shall call this training for dumbies like you!
And to give you and the rest of your clan a little insight... I use to be totally against the flame... But now I see why it happens... Go troll on crackberry or something...
Jules
I trully believe you have good intentions and you want to become this phone dev, but you write too much, quote too much and generally flud all the threads.
I don't think it helps you on the long run. If you want to be a dev - read, search, then read and search and if you really have to, post a private message, otherwise you seem like a noob calling yourself a dev in progress.
Read the 'how to decompile an apk' in the modding forum and all the 'how to make a custom ROM' general forum threads, download root explorer for the trial and error and notepad++ for the updater script and make a productive contribution to the community.
Good luck.
Sent from me
Just want to throw out there that as bad as this forum may seem, its a hella lot better than some.
I got so sick of the g2x forums I flamed someone (which I make a point to avoid doing) and came back to this phone! (course the main reason is cause this is just a superior device in every way)
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SMH. This is what gives XDA a bad name.
+1 Thomas
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well you sure do have a point - 10x for that.
Hopefully people will read and internalize it.
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Thank you Bassmanjames... For being the prime example of the f**king jackasses that I am talking about. What the hell does a site about bass guitars adn crap have to do with anything I said. I am glad I put this up... We shall call this training for dumbies like you!
And to give you and the rest of your clan a little insight... I use to be totally against the flame... But now I see why it happens... Go troll on crackberry or something...
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LOL glad i could help. Your welcome everyone needs to vent once in a while. I have already participated in many general threads about this topic and in accordance with the rules why did you start another? It is sad that the general populous can't search or feels so entitled they don't think they should have to; but, such is life sir, as you can see.
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The forum is a great tool...
but posting in the wrong forum can ruin it :-(
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Lol nice there thomas. Also, I agree about quoting long posts. I use to cut them just to let the people know what I'm answering or just mention @username and write. Also, no need for signatures or wether you are sending the post from xda premium or free or whatever phone.
In my opinion, this forum sucks because of little moderation by those who can. Threads and posts need to be deleted every now and then. I have made a ticket with xda regarding this but they told me to use the report button... bah. We all have to admit than sometimes threads get to the 1000's post and its difficult to keep track of every post so one has to ask same question because of the useless crap posted and I understand doesn't have an option.
Anyway, if I got to be a noob or a disturbing person... sorry, not my intention as I use to read more than post. If I flamed you... well you probably deserved it and I'm not sorry. I hope this forum gets some massive clean up one day and to see everything organized.
At the end of the day a forum is used to post... and people will post what they want even if its crap like what I just wrote in this post. Lol
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At the end of the day a forum is used to post... and people will post what they want even if its crap like what I just wrote in this post. Lol
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+1000 man!
Take note how I cut down the quote peeps. I left just the meat and potatoes... In the army, we have what is called the K.I.S.S. method...
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
I still think that this forum needs more Operatives or Moderator watching out for the forum...
too bad there is only one
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Also, no need for signatures or wether you are sending the post from xda premium or free or whatever phone.
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It just keeps piling on, pretty soon someone will say there's no need for posting actual posts.
BTW, if you're going to suggest there's no need for signatures, please remove yours
Yes, I'm being sarcastic, but I think some of this is getting out of hand, one extreme to another. From little policing, by those that should, to over policing by those who re self-appointed, Vigilante's as it were.
There are moderators, there are tools to be used for reporting specific threads or posts in case they are overlooked.
Use those tools enough and the PTB's will start paying more attention to this forum maybe, and keeping it a bit more cleaned up.
Our mod seems to have a lot of other forums to police as well... so maybe we can end up with one who has more time to keep an eye on this place.
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It just keeps piling on, pretty soon someone will say there's no need for posting actual posts.
BTW, if you're going to suggest there's no need for signatures, please remove yours
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I mean the signature from the phone "Sent from T959 using Xda..." you know... not the one here. My bad.
Anyway I stated that people can and will post whatever they want, either be a good post or one ready to get flame. I was just saying my opinion. No offense intended.
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I mean the signature from the phone "Sent from T959 using Xda..." you know... not the one here. My bad.
Anyway I stated that people can and will post whatever they want, either be a good post or one ready to get flame. I was just saying my opinion. No offense intended.
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None taken, it's extremely hard to offend me anyway.
The XDA app and Tapatalk both add that little signature line by default. It's a single line and takes up less space than most other signatures (my own included, although I did drop my graphic at least)
And yea, people will be people, no matter what the rest of us say or do we're going to continue to see peeps that don't bother to search, they just want someone to spoonfeed them.
They are the same people who, after reading app and/or rom descriptions install/flash and then complain it's not what they expected, and they want this/that/or the other added to it, or removed from it, and they want it now.
Mostly this is because the whole world revolves around them, and these devs are here solely to provide them with everything, for free, without complaint, in a timely manner (timely being instantly!)
No matter how many posts are made referencing the proper way to do things, these same people will ignore them, because they know that the rules don't apply to them, those rules are for the 'other people', the ones the world doesn't revolve around.
So I use my own rules in regards to those wonderful folks. I flag/report the trolls, point out threads that need removed, help those that seem truly lost, yet not demanding, point others to the door.
The mods do respond, usually pretty quickly, to reported threads and posts. They just seem to stealth in and handle it.
I made use of it last night for a thread, when I got up this morning, the thread was gone.
With the amount of knowledge that is about in the G3 forum, I wanted to try getting a thread going that would be specific to development tutorials so that people like myself, who are interested in getting into development, have a wealth of knowledge and expertise of established devs at their disposal.
So at this stage I would request that devs such as HillBeast, Rubensollie, Marcellusbe, kyrillos, J. Purungrit, Mohanshbhr, The Dark Lest at, Rudolf895, or anyone else with great tutorials, or knowledge to developed tutorials post them here.
I realise it is a lot to ask of devs to post tutorials as they will more than likely already be busy with their own projects. But I feel that a thread like this will open up doors for some talented people who may be able to provide some new and interesting roms/features and maybe even help each other out with bug fixs for existing ports.
Sorry mods if this thread is unneeded.
Please guys, share knowledge so we can all learn and help grow
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sorry, but I'm not a dev ...all the tutorials/guides of making roms and stuff are in this forum already....so all you need to do, is SEARCH!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046306
We already have tutorials and threads and I think making a new one wouldn't be that beneficial.
A wiki, on the other hand....
There are a set of tutorial by Rudolf on Youtube. He had posted in on XDA too. That is the best set of tutorials. And also, certain tools like QtADB, APKMultitool are very useful.
Was more looking to try and keep all tuts within one thread. Easier to read all tuts and collate info that way. Although as suggested a wiki would probably work better
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Was more looking to try and keep all tuts within one thread. Easier to read all tuts and collate info that way. Although as suggested a wiki would probably work better
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We could just make a wiki page, then i will be interested to write some tuts
Thanks to everyone for the 400 thankses!
I am making a wiki for sg3 which will have all the lit of roms, kernels, tuts, etc. Would have the rom making tut too. I really don't have any work just now so......
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Looking for a free wiki site maker or sth like that. If anyone knows, please tell
ak700 said:
I am making a wiki for sg3 which will have all the lit of roms, kernels, tuts, etc. Would have the rom making tut too. I really don't have any work just now so......
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Looking for a free wiki site maker or sth like that. If anyone knows, please tell
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You could use google sites for that: LINK
rubensollie said:
You could use google sites for that: LINK
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Thanks. I started with this - http://sg3.wikidot.com
But its hell of alot complicated. Many things are not working and i think they have there own set of rules. (coding rules i mean)
ak700 said:
Thanks. I started with this - http://sg3.wikidot.com
But its hell of alot complicated. Many things are not working and i think they have there own set of rules. (coding rules i mean)
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Ok, just search for something good, and when youre done with the main thing, i can write something.
I have created a basic site - www.sg3.webs.com
Just updated the rom index.
Would gather all info and publish it tomorrow. Will get some sleep
I was contemplating making a wiki myself when I wrote the above post, and look and what has happend since; somebody else made one!
I'll help out with writing stuff once I'm finally able to keep my hands off of my new sgt 10.1.
Just remember, be as modular as possible. That's the whole point of wiki, not repeating work.
ex. make one page for adb and subsections on that page for each command, and when a command is needed in a tut or something just link to the subsection
stubborn_d0nkey said:
I was contemplating making a wiki myself when I wrote the above post, and look and what has happend since; somebody else made one!
I'll help out with writing stuff once I'm finally able to keep my hands off of my new sgt 10.1.
Just remember, be as modular as possible. That's the whole point of wiki, not repeating work.
ex. make one page for adb and subsections on that page for each command, and when a command is needed in a tut or something just link to the subsection
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Well you could pm me what all you want to out on the wiki and i would add it. Why make 2 separate wikis?
Im not gonna make a new wiki
So its not gonna be a "true" wiki where users can register and edit it? Why didn't you make one of those?
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I was contemplating making a wiki myself when I wrote the above post, and look and what has happend since; somebody else made one!
I'll help out with writing stuff once I'm finally able to keep my hands off of my new sgt 10.1.
Just remember, be as modular as possible. That's the whole point of wiki, not repeating work.
ex. make one page for adb and subsections on that page for each command, and when a command is needed in a tut or something just link to the subsection
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@ stubborn_d0nkey, when I posted the initial post, this is actually the information that I was suggesting would be made available. Once stop shop for ALL rom building information...
I sent a pm to one of our mods asking if we can get the sticky threads cleaned up. By this I mean unsticky some of the ones that are outdated and no longer maintained by current users of this device.
Im basing this on my own ideas and this post by FB.
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Solrac, it might be better if you would concentrate your efforts on updating our wiki since some information has already been repeated a few times, particularly the roms list. If you wind up putting them in the wiki then other users can edit it once you decide to not update this thread. I've seen it happen to at least two other threads already which is why team acid have moved some of our instructions to the wiki.
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We have so much stuff stickied in the general sub that is out of date. In the development sub there is a couple threads that are no longer maintained.
My question is do you agree we need some of these threads removed from the list of stickies? Ill have a poll please select agree or disagree. If you want to post a response please do, but lets keep this civil aight?
Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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Looks like it's time for YOU to edit the wiki and add a guide that works for you.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I have thought about making a update guide like the bible thread but every time I start I have never finished. Im not fond of the wiki for some of the reasons twisted spoke about, however it can be useful.
Is there a person that is notified when edits are made? So we can make sure the proper info is put on it? Ive never paid enough attention to that aspect.
There's a history option in the wiki that lets you view the latest edits, and see what exactly go changed. (It's up top in the navigation)
The thing is that the lack of information can be addressed by adding it. Twisted said there were no Odin guides, well we can add them. There's no real reason why we shouldn't be using it. I know everyone wants to start their thread with their guide on how to do things their way, but there has to be an accepted method of doing things. I've written up a few of the guides on the Wiki but then someone else comes along and improves it with a better method that is more up to date. That's how it should be, you don't have to go to MY thread to try and edit it or try to get me to update it. You can just go in and do it yourself.
Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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You're completely missing the point.
Let me make it easier.
If info is not in wiki, put info in wiki.
I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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No one can stop another user/troll from putting bad, offensive, or just plan misinformation out there. The maintenance of the wiki is a community effort. Thus we are all responsible for updating it and cleaning it up.
I do like the idea of checks and balances, though. What we need for that effort are maintainers. On top of the community making updates we could have a few people that collaborate to help keep the wiki clean, up to date, etc. The trick would be getting volunteers for Team Wiki (wicked? Wikid! lol) that can put the time and effort into the moderation of the wiki.
Just my 2ȼ.
Nvm, just checked the wiki and it has either been updated or i was blind before, cuz everything i used is in the wiki...
. I'm glad you see that. If someone updates it and starts screwing with the wiki a moderator can always step in. It's basically like the forums, we can't stop you from posting, but once you've posted something that you shouldn't have, we can remove it. We can do the same on the wiki, it keeps track of the edit history, we can always revert to a good version.
Check out this nice list of ROMs available for our phone. It's the most up to date one (thanks to solrac who just updated the list of custom mtd roms portion)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/List_of_ROMs
Thanks FB that was what I was wanting to know. I have the same reservations as anonymous and Stephen. Ive seen wikipedia edited and things slipped until somebody caught it.
Ive spoke with TRusselo and if we can come up with a list of the threads that need to be cleaned and unstuck he is willing to look into is. However since he doesnt own the phone he did not want to jump in unstickying threads willy nilly. I had planned on posting earlier today but I spent a good part of my day fixing bicycles so I can take my kiddo bike riding.
Ill be out most of tomorrow but Ill try to post my list sometime and if any of you want to also suggest it would be great. My thinking is we can always link to the threads via the wiki and maybe create a new version of the bible thread and the FAQ thread Mr. Clown created.
If you want to make suggestions please list which sub the thread is in and the thread name no need to link it. The final list will have links when I submit it to TRusselo.
Well I can say once this idea is completed it will be a lot more user friendly...
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General Sub
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
Froyo flashing guide not really needed since we are on GB, CM7, and now CM9.
Most of the information in this thread is general rules and mostly common sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
This one too has some forum rules and common sense stuff posted. Maybe condense it with the one above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
This one is a PSA and again something that is part of the main rules.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195027
This one is very informative but maybe when Juls updates it he can post it on the wiki.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480418
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Q & A sub
This is a old guide that has since been changed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215748
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Development Sub
Since this thread is very out of date it needs to be unstuck. Most information in this thread has changed and is no longer relevant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
This thread the info is out of date. The second post is useful but the first one is out of date.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
This one if we get official support of RM it will be outdated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305560
All of the above is open for suggestions or even tell me certain threads need to stay as stickies. Im just looking to trim the sticky list down.
I was also thinking each sub could have a thread that has links to the wiki for things. That way even if the person that creates it leaves and never comes back the wiki links will be the same. Then the threads can be linked on the wiki and if a thread is out dated it can be removed from the wiki.
Looks like good suggestions so far.
As far as recreating the bible thread, we can easily do that in the wiki. The roms portion is pretty much set except for roms that haven't been released yet.
The dev stickies are definitely the ones we should get rid of. right now we have 6 stickied threads. They take up a lot of room before getting to the latest content from dev threads.
I agree with creating a bible in the wiki, I was suggesting linking to it in a sticky. I tend to have a hard time expressing my thoughts in few words. I mean you have read some of my posts .
Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
Eollie if you want make a stickie of the rom wiki because I always update this wiki
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Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
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I have not yet had an opportunity to look through your list. Seems FB read through it and I know I trust his opinion. I will look through it later. Thanks for taking the time to get this going.