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Hallo together,
The last 3 days i thinking to flash my Orbit 2 with the Android Froyo, but this process is complicated and take much time. I thought more people have flashed the Android on Touch Cruise already and can answer me a couple questions.
1. Is the android on NAND faster than WM 6.1?
2. Have the Android a GPU driver for TC or Orbit 2?
3. How much free space i would be having?
4. Is it possible to move the apps to SD or make a virtual partition on SD like an internal memory?
5. The battery drain?
6. Can i use iGo 8?
7. Have someone tested the Golaunchenr on TC or Orbit 2?
That’s all. It would be nice if someone explain me this simple things!
With best regards
Pendelv
I can't believe, that nobody have answer on my questions.
Can someone who flashed the Android on NAND answer only this 3 questions, all anothe i finded in the board.
1. Is the android on NAND faster than WM 6.1?
2. Have the Android a GPU driver for TC or Orbit 2?
3. How much free space i would be having after flashing the Android on NAND with Data on SD?
i have install nand before and now flash back wm6.5
maybe i can answer some of the question
1. the speed is acceptable if not open heavy load apps
2. the quacomm brenchmark have about 26 fps
3. space since i mount all things to sd, so i am not very clear
run android on TC is funny, but i don't think it can serve as daily use
easy to hang and after hang, sometimes the kernel will corrupt and cannot restart the phone,
also, when the battery use up, the phone cannot charge ( restart and restart and even use more power )
the battery meter is not accurate also..
hope i can answer your question
Thanks a lot
now it is simple to make a right desision to stay by wm 6.1.
I use iGo 8 on my Orbit 2 like Navigation in the Car, but i have read that the people have run the igo8 under Android. I ask me how? I think for me its better to stay with wm 6.1 and SPB shell. Works fine now. Actualy Android with marketplace and so many Apps sounds great, but if it dont work corectly....?
With best regards!
Pendelv
1st of all I disagree a little with hcchcc. To flash Android on Nand is actually very simple and it runs pretty good.
Also to answer your questions:
It is faster than WM6.1
You won't play games with this old crap, but UI is very smooth
Around ~90Mb, but it depends of ROM
It is native Froyo feature to move apps to SD card so not all apps are movable
Battery drain is equal as on WM6.1. It can hold about 2-3 days, but again it depends of ROM, kernel and radio
Don't know about iGo, but Google maps and navigation works fine
Go launcher works fine, but I would recommend Launcher Pro
While my new Lumia 800 is at reparation I took off some dust from my old Polaris.
Android development have been stopped very long time ago for this device so you take what you have. I tried l1q1d's RLS16 with 2.6.32.9 kernel, but I find it too unstable and too many small annoying bugs.
I'm currently using RLS18 with 2.6.25 kernel and it works surprisingly good. I spend about 2 weeks optimizing and tweaking it and now I'm very happy with result. It is my daily ROM atm.
Overall android works fine on Polaris. The only huge problem is low RAM (only 105Mb). This also means there will be no multitasking. So unless you don't load any heavy apps like Gmaps or browsing heavy web pages everything works just fine. Because of this drawback if you are using Gmaps and receiving a call in the same time phone may crash or in best case it will hang an incoming call or if you are lucky it will path through.
If you wish I can share my ROM.
whitealien said:
1st of all I disagree a little with hcchcc. To flash Android on Nand is actually very simple and it runs pretty good.
Also to answer your questions:
It is faster than WM6.1
You won't play games with this old crap, but UI is very smooth
Around ~90Mb, but it depends of ROM
It is native Froyo feature to move apps to SD card so not all apps are movable
Battery drain is equal as on WM6.1. It can hold about 2-3 days, but again it depends of ROM, kernel and radio
Don't know about iGo, but Google maps and navigation works fine
Go launcher works fine, but I would recommend Launcher Pro
While my new Lumia 800 is at reparation I took off some dust from my old Polaris.
Android development have been stopped very long time ago for this device so you take what you have. I tried l1q1d's RLS16 with 2.6.32.9 kernel, but I find it too unstable and too many small annoying bugs.
I'm currently using RLS18 with 2.6.25 kernel and it works surprisingly good. I spend about 2 weeks optimizing and tweaking it and now I'm very happy with result. It is my daily ROM atm.
Overall android works fine on Polaris. The only huge problem is low RAM (only 105Mb). This also means there will be no multitasking. So unless you don't load any heavy apps like Gmaps or browsing heavy web pages everything works just fine. Because of this drawback if you are using Gmaps and receiving a call in the same time phone may crash or in best case it will hang an incoming call or if you are lucky it will path through.
If you wish I can share my ROM.
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Hi,
Please share your ROM. I installed Incubu's RLS16. Where can i download liqid's RLS18.
Thanks.
Hello,
I installed (with pain) the official stock jelly bean on my GEDified Xoom. I thought "project butter" was a real big improvement, according to what I could read in many threads, I was then asking myself why, if it's such a big improvement, the release name didn't change to 5.0 instead of 4.1.1...
Now I have my answer !
Launcher :
I can say yes, there is a fluidity enhancements, but not as much as expected. I could not see much differences between ICS and JB regarding the fluidity, the stock launcher has only been improved a bit : if an icon page is full of icons, with 2 widgets on it, then there are a few lags ...
I use Nova launcher since ICS, and this one is really smooth as butter, much more than the stock JB launcher. You can put 3 or 4 widgets on a same icons page with absolutly no lag at all.
Web browser :
The same with the default JB web browser : I can feel improvements, but some web pages (with no Flash activated) are still laggy ... Compare it with Opera Mini and you will see what smooth as butter should mean ! Opera is just perfectly smooth, no lag at all on any web page.
Non-Google applications :
I couldn't find any fluidity enhancement when running non-google applications. The applications which where laggy with ICS are still laggy with JB, and unfortunatly, perfectly smooth Android applications are too rares ...
I can't even really use most of the new features of JB :
- I can't use the new icons auto-rearranging when moving a widget on a page as the stock launcher is not smooth enough for me, I use Nova Launcher which is perfectly fluid but does not have this feature.
- I can't ear the beautifull voice of Google Voice Search, as I'm french, and it only works for English language ... But I'm not even sure the problem is here, the main problem is that on the official stock JB release, there is no "download offline speach recognition" option in Google Now, so you just cannot activate it. But you can do it on a Team EOS ROM !!!!! This is a shame !!!
- I forgot this one ... I even lost an important feature ! My external SD Card could read or write with ICS, now it's READ ONLY !!!
As the fluidity is my main concern on my Xoom, I was disapointed, I was expecting too many improvements when I read threads of people testing Jelly Bean, so by making this thread I hope I will help people not yet running JB to not be disapointed as I am.
Now I hope the "project butter" is not closed at Google as there are still many improvements to do on this point, I can say that because some third party applications are perfectly smooth where the Google ones are not, so it is not an hardware problem, I am pretty sure that a dual core tablet should be enough to display 2D applications smoothly. But will our good old Xoom receive the future major Android release ? I don't think so as we are already lucky enough to receive JB after more than one year of existence for the Xoom ... But there are still a few bugs to remove in JB, I hope Google will update it (I never had a single crash when running ICS, on JB, I had one the first day I used it when I tried to change the background wall paper, my screen became black and the Xoom rebooted ...).
So now I am thinking of trying a JB custom ROM, but it was so painful to me to restore all my data and applications after the official OTA update (my bootloader was unlocked so the OTA didn't work, I had to put back my Xoom to a factory state with locked bootloader which let me loose all my data) that I'm now a bit lazy and not sure that the custom ROM will be smooter than the stock one.
I have HTC One X and if I get the same JB results on this phone I am definitely giving up on Android and testing Windows Phone. There was a Nokia promotion at my school a few months back and I tested one of their models with Windows. I was impressed by how fast and lag-free it is. I would definitely give it a go.
This phone that I am using has a quad core cpu, 1gb of RAM and what not and OS still lags!! I mean come on!!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
flash an eos rom and you will see the real "smooth as butter"
omnia1994 said:
flash an eos rom and you will see the real "smooth as butter"
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Did you compare the EOS rom to the stock one ? In fact I would be glad to see a video of the Team EOS release running on a Xoom ...
One of my friends tried windows phone and said it was like running a Beta. Came back to Android.
Major benefits were integration with Xbox.
Windows tablet may fair slightly better but the ARM not being able to run current apps seems a bit like cutting of their arms
I don't think there is cause to assume we will not get KLP (Android 4.2 or 5.0) yet, its a year old. Google seem to want to support devices for 18 months as per last IO...?
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515m using xda premium
It's time to be honest- there's only going to be so much ANY software can do on our Xooms, as it turns out that part of the issue is a hardware problem- but not where you'd expect. One of the things folks don't realize about Android is that the performance can be heavily dependent on the type, kind and size of the Flash disk storage a device contains. Flash storage, especially the what's-now-older kind that's on our Xooms, just doesn't perform very well if there's a lot of small, random writes to it, and there's a lot of these in a typical running Android system.
What ends up happening during these small writes is the system can end up waiting a relative eternity on any other disk-based I/O once the Flash controller chip (the one built into the Flash device, not the controller on the CPU) determines it's time to reorganize itself- and what that means is that during that time, the system can (and often does) appear unresponsive, or "stutter". I've worked on several Android handsets and tablets over the last few years, and this problem is beginning to be well-known.
A good example of this is to try listening to music, then browsing a complex webpage- as the browser writes its cache and various database files, many times the music will pause, stutter or click.
I've been doing what I can in EOS kernels to improve the random-small-write performance of the Flash disk- changing when and where writes happen, changing the geometry of where they occur, and I'm now actually testing a series of changes that are based on an academic Whitepaper that look quite promising (but it'll require an entire "Factory Reset" type wipe to make it work).
BTW, if you want to see something eye-opening, run PassMark (or some other disk-I/O benchmark that compares against other devices) and see how badly we do against more-modern devices.
(TL;DR: newer handsets and tablets will likely perform better on JB, mostly 'cause our Flash devices could perform better in many often-used scenarios.)
Thanks a lot for this answer, I understand what you mean about flash memory.
But there are some ways, with the current Xoom hardware, to make things very smooth as some third party softwares do it :
- Nova Launcher -> Perfectly smooth, no lags whatever the number of Widgets are displayed. JB Launcher is much more laggy ...
- Opera Mini -> Perfectly smooth, and very responsive.
So I really cannot understand why Google cannot make things smoother if other companies do !
Plus some apps have perfectly fluid menus (I mean when you just scroll a menu, it's perfectly fluid) and some other apps have their menu so laggy ...
So I really feel like it's not a hardware question but more the way the apps have been developped.
and what about the Linaro code ? Wouldn't it make JB smoother ?
Opera Mini isn't really a fair comparison. How does it compare to Opera Mobile or Firefox or Dolphin or whatever? Opera Mini was intended for small memory devices and doesn't even render the pages locally. The are rendered on Opera's servers and then the result is compressed and sent to the device to be displayed.
I'd say your comparison regarding the launcher though is valid. I haven't personally experienced much lag but I don't have many Widgets.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Go EOS you will not be disappointed!! I was very disappointed when ICS came out for my stingray Xoom i didn't even stay on it for more than a couple hours after getting it OTA before i went and flashed the EOS ICS ROM.
As for browsers i love Dolphin HD.
I have stock JB on my Xoom and other than minor launcher lag with multiple widgets, I find this to be really smooth and 100% stable. I see very noticeable improvements over ICS, especially with graphics and overall the smoothness. Overall I am very content.
I will also say, the battery life has surely improved over ICS! For 3D gaming, I lose about 7.5% - 10% in 45 minutes, which projects to about 7.5 hours of gaming with a possible max of 10 hours!!
Sounds like project rusty beans on your Xoom then.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
I was wondering if many of the Project Butter enhancements were launcher related. I've always used Nova Launcher as well, and I have seen lag in the past on ICS. Especially since my desktop consists mostly of widgets. PB Launcher is definitely a little better than Nova when loaded with widgets, in my experience. But the ability to customize rows/columns and get rid of icon labels is compelling enough to use Nova. Nevermind the ability to utilize most of the screen without a 1" border on each side, as is the cast with the stock launcher.
One huge difference is with the Netflix app. I remember them talking about Project Butter enhancements to the Framework during the I/O keynote speech, and I suspect the changes helped almost completely eliminate the AWFUL lag I'd experienced in the Netflix app in ICS. Once a show got going, the streaming was fine. It was when navigating through the app that it was horrendous. In JB, it is great!
Fix External Card Write problems
Dizzy,
I had the same exact issue when trying to write to my SD Card - it was write protected and only allowed read permissions. I had problems restoring backups with Titanium Backup and creating new ones - as my backups were on my External card.
I found the solution which seemed to cure-all. I found it with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20869996&postcount=7
Basically, assuming you are rooted, in /system/etc/permissions/ mount this folder using ES File Explorer or Root Explorer as R/W, then open platform.xml in text editor and find WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. Add an additional group definition for this permission...<group gid="media_rw" />. Save changes or exit and save changes and then reboot tablet.
You can always try the automated way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458021
Good luck!
Skeetch79 said:
Dizzy,
I had the same exact issue when trying to write to my SD Card - it was write protected and only allowed read permissions. I had problems restoring backups with Titanium Backup and creating new ones - as my backups were on my External card.
I found the solution which seemed to cure-all. I found it with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20869996&postcount=7
Basically, assuming you are rooted, in /system/etc/permissions/ mount this folder using ES File Explorer or Root Explorer as R/W, then open platform.xml in text editor and find WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. Add an additional group definition for this permission...<group gid="media_rw" />. Save changes or exit and save changes and then reboot tablet.
You can always try the automated way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458021
Good luck!
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Thanks a lot for these informations, unfortunatly my Xoom is not rooted (I had so many problems to update to JB when my Xoom had the bootloader unlocked that I had to re-lock it...).
So I cannot use this solution, and I don't understand why Google put the SD card Readonly where it was read/write in ICS ...
This is really a big disapointment for me from Jelly Bean. I hope Google will change that in the next JB update.
I have tried Jelly Bean as well and noticed that while it is a little smoother than ICS, it isn't "buttery" smooth. That said I don't believe it's so much the software as it is the hardware. Tegra 2's GPU is quite lacking in general and was a huge letdown for many people. If for example you check out JB on an Asus Transformer Prime/Infinity or a Nexus 7, you'll notice it is MUCH smoother overall. Finally, a lot of older apps haven't been updated yet to use GPU acceleration but there is a setting in the developer options to force gpu acceleration which should make those apps perform better.
My Droid Bionic running an ICS leak is smoother than my Xoom on JB simply because it has a faster gpu. The only thing I really noticed that helped with my Xoom's performance was running it at 1.5Ghz OC on the Team EOS rom. There are still websites that lag and have issues, but in general it does run much better than stock.
As for WP7 it is a smooth OS yes but VERY incomplete....WP8 looks to address many of the issues with WP7 but it will also break a lot of compatibility yet again and will basically alienate the current entire WP7 userbase...(if you didnt know WP8 will run most WP7 apps, but WP7 can't run any of the WP8 apps).
Is it just me, or does the Xoom seem to get faster over time with Jelly Bean? I was part of the soak test, so may have had it a few days loner than most, and I have done a couple of resets early on, but over the last couple of days, it definitely seems snappier
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk 2
I've got a mz601 and i have to say that JB is totally lag-free on my XOOM. I've never used stock firmware (EOS only) and after updating from ICS (that was laggy as hell) i havn't seen any lag whatsoever. But when i updated to JB i did a complete factory reset (formatted system, user data, cache, internal sdcard and external sdcard) and it was as if i had bought a new tablet.
Stock JB launcher has no lag, system ui has no lag, browser has a little lag when opening complex websites, music and videos have no lag. Also Flash works much better (even if it's not officially supported).
Some apps still lag like they did on ICS but i guess that is an app developement problem since most apps also work lag-free...
GO... GO.... GOOGLE... Android just keeps getting better and better...
PS! I also have the original iPad and that lags alot with ios 5. I also have a powerful desktop-PC (i7 with 8gb ram) with windows 7 and I have to say that the XOOM opens websites faster and scrolls much smoother (even with a bluetooth mouse).
PS2! I'm not an android fan. I like all gadgets but android seems to be moving in the right direction.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/07/revisiting-the-xoom-examining-jelly-bean-on-a-10-inch-tablet/
Here is an interesting review of JB on the Xoom
rcatron said:
Is it just me, or does the Xoom seem to get faster over time with Jelly Bean? I was part of the soak test, so may have had it a few days loner than most, and I have done a couple of resets early on, but over the last couple of days, it definitely seems snappier
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I have the exact same feeling ...
dizzy33 said:
I have the exact same feeling ...
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I have been very critical of JB since getting it last Friday but I have to say that today the whole experience seems to be coming together and some of the early faults I was experiencing have pretty much gone all of a sudden.
It seems quicker now though only marginally but thats still a step up from how it was at the beginning. And since switching to chrome instead of ICS browser it seems to be giving a better browsing experience; which was definitely not the case with chrome on ICS for me.
just came across this one.
looks like the minix with custom rom for games.
was wondering if XBMC is indeed playing ok on an android based machine ?
http://xtreamer.net/MultiConsole/index/console-with-hand.jpg
http://www.xtreamer.net/MultiConsole/index.html
Anyone got this?
anyone?
to buy or not to buy?
i got this.
its working ok. i guess if you do not mess around with things (like i do) its working fine. i am looking for an alternative rom for some time, but did not have the guts to try something out.
xbmc is working fine there is a preinstalled version but i installed the one from the homepage, because it is the latetes version. sometimes its not working like i would like it to work, but i am not shure if it is my network router or nas or the xtreamer.
I bought it but disappointed and it has lots of problems which needs fix. I understand most of these devices would have problems out of box. But Xtreamer hasn't released any update since the product release in Feb.
The launcher is a bit interesting to look at but it has issues which messes up all apps running on it including XBMC. I'm not really fan of the air mouse and prefer IR remote.
I've bought it too.
I'm quite satisfied when I using it as media player, but I exeprience many lag especially during browser activity.
I wonder if it will be flash xtreamer multi console with nexus player firmware... I believe in google and I hope that it has create a good usability device..
kind regards,
luigi
No Xtreamer Multi-Console
I have this device (Xtreamer Multi-Console) and I just want to say - don't bay it!
Because:
1. Xtreamer Multi Console is very slow device
2. The original GUI is very ugly and uncomfortable [I've tried others launchers, but the console is still very slow]
3. The remote control is also very unusable (I had to buy additional keyboard for control [Logitech K400 2in1]
4. Too expensive
5. Xtreamer Multi-Console has a lot of bugs
New firmware
Hi all, with new firmware Xtreamer_MC_2.5_12.05.14 is best of
1) very fast
2) GUI is with new function, but I use Nova launcher or XBMC launcher.
3) Remote control have new function without cursor - best for XBMC
4) Multi Console is very very stable
Wauuuuuu
RoyalStandard said:
I have this device (Xtreamer Multi-Console) and I just want to say - don't bay it!
Because:
1. Xtreamer Multi Console is very slow device
2. The original GUI is very ugly and uncomfortable [I've tried others launchers, but the console is still very slow]
3. The remote control is also very unusable (I had to buy additional keyboard for control [Logitech K400 2in1]
4. Too expensive
5. Xtreamer Multi-Console has a lot of bugs
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LuTi said:
Hi all, with new firmware Xtreamer_MC_2.5_12.05.14 is best of
1) very fast
2) GUI is with new function, but I use Nova launcher or XBMC launcher.
3) Remote control have new function without cursor - best for XBMC
4) Multi Console is very very stable
Wauuuuuu
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I don't sure about it.
In addition, to make it easy for use you must spend a lot of your time.
So I advice to try Asus Nexus Player
This device still has issues even with the latest firmware Ver 4.10.18 which was released nearly after a year.
Slow, status bar cutting the subtitles in XBMC and it's unstable device for sure and not worth the high price.
Has anyone tried other ROM(s) on this device and know they work?
Thanks
I also bought this ... thing ... on June 2014...
DO NOT BUY IT !!!!
It's the Slowest, nerve braking, time consuming piece of ... well you know what i mean
I can't imagine why a company sells equipment that in their imagination works in the best posible way, while the truth is that it doesn't.
- You click on Gmail, and you just HAVE to wait. And i has nothing to do with Wi-Fi signal or internet speed.
- You try to open the new Kodi (ex XBMC) and you wait.... and wait... and ok ... wait some more... and ... nope..
it throuhs you back to the main android screen. And so you click it again... and it works... (party time after 10 minutes)
:good::fingers-crossed:
- It takes about 3 minutes until the booting of the device finishes. And its Android right? :crying:
My Samsung Galaxy SII is way much faster than the Xtreamer. The booting finishes in less than a minute.
- My Xtreamer is using the Latest version... And i don't know what they fixed, but guys come on... It's slow..
- Also it has a banch of crapware installed, that I took the liberty to remove.
- And the Launcher just takes... the rest of the cake... It's simply the worst launcher i've seen... and i've seen many.
So i also changed that as well.
- So now my Xtreamer finishes launching in around 2 minutes and 35 seconds to 3 minutes and 10 seconds.
This is also crazy because the time difference is way to big.
- And the Wi-Fi streagth is not good. My Wi-Fi Modem is just 3 meters away, with no obsticles in the way,
and it gets 2-3 bars of signal.
I guess i have to find a way to install another Rom in this that might work better.
Anyone knows if there is any other rom i could install.
Thanks for reading.
Have a nice day people.
So I got my Nvidia Shield a while back. The first thing I did when getting it was installing all the updates. Eventually after the final update was installed, I did a full factory reset of the device.
I have hardly any apps installed besides the essential Google applications, but my Nvidia Shield still feels remarkably slow. Chrome is practically unusable, and switching between apps is not a pleasant experience at all. That said, benchmarks and games perform wonderfully, which has me a bit puzzled. There doesnt seem to be any problems with memory leaks as there is plenty of RAM available. I do tend to restart it quite often just to see if it makes a difference, but I doesnt really feel like it has much of an impact.
Does anyone here have similar issues at all? I have worked with Android quite a bit and never have I experienced a system run Android so much worse than you would expect given the hardware specifications. My Nexus 10 feels a lot more snappy in general use.
Thanks for any help
All I can say is that I have a similar experience to you, although I have quite a lot of applications installed. I don't have any solutions for you, only to wait and hope that nvidia optimises the software for the hardware in the next update (Android 5.1 hopefully)
It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit
I've had this problem too.
I just turned off battery saver. It got too low, automatically turned on and I didn't realize but when I turned it off, it got way faster.
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It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit
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The Lollipop memleak bug is pretty easy to detect though and that's not what's causing the performance issue on the Shield Tablet. At least not in my case. While I would normally be the first to unlock my bootloader and port CM to my new device, I would want to keep my tablet stock.
Im glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing issues so Im going to assume that there's nothing specifically wrong with my device in particular. I guess Ill give Nvidia one more chance to rectify performance issues with their next update, otherwise I'm selling the tablet and buying a Nexus 9 or something else.
I have the same experience. I have flashed the latest recovery image, unlocked and rooted. I have disabled apps I don't need and does not have a lot of apps installed. It is unbelievable slow. Like stated above Chrome is almost useless and switching apps is painful. I am using my Nexus 10 too, the Shield tablet will collect dust until there is a fix released.
If I have the time I will try flashing CM12 but I rather stay stock.
You should give it a shot...
Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.
albertorodast2007 said:
Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.
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This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.
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NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.
danjull said:
Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.
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I have it rooted, with xposed, and a lot of apps. I may try CM over the weekend.
NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.
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Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.
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And GRID also works fine. The only deal breakers (and the ones every dev is working hard to make em work on AOSP) are console mode and the controller wireless pairing.
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jasonpctech said:
I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.
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That's contradictory. I have a really tiny LMK value for foreground apps (foreground= 8mb, Visible=16, secondary=32, hidden=64, content provider=96, empty=128 ) so apps in the foreground are killed only if system goes under 8mb of free ram, and have no lag, but I'm on CM12.1. So I really don't know how this is working but I'm glad for you. Although it may drain your battery faster BC android is killing apps as soon as they go to the foreground to keep that amount of free ram and is using more CPU cycles to load them back when you need them again, that's what I get. But anyone with more knowledge maybe could guide us why this is working???
Interesting, it's working but I didn't even try any other variables. I will try your settings and get back. Needless to say battery life is next after usability.
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Ok tried your suggestion verbatim. It immediately was back in useless mode as I have been calling it. Without a reboot it took me at least 15min to get back to here. Still could not type so minmanged back to previous settings and its running. Weird.
My test would have been run Facebook, chrome & this app with poweramp music. Never got halfway before it got all James May on me. Are we running the same tablet? Any thoughts on why we could have opposed settings and get different successful results.
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Also when it slows down it gets warmer the settings I'm using leave it pretty cool in comparison.
I'm on stock 5.0.1, 32gb SD + internal memory almost full. I experience some lag mainly with chrome and switching app. Yestetday I tried to set the power saver to "max performance" and the everything seems much smoother..
Make sure you SD cards are formatted with NTFS. exFAT is fine for 32gb, but if you have a 64GB or higher, the card needs to be formatted in a PC using NTFS...
Don't ever let your main ram storage memory get below 500meg.
If somehow you run out of memory,, let's say sub 10megs then all manner of weird things begin to happen including reboots and app crashing. You can jam that external sd1 card full however.
I reset mine several times and tried everything I saw in these threads about the lagginess and stuff.
In the end, I found the solution. I returned the NST and exchanged it for a new iPad Mini 2 32gb Retina Screen... No really.
I love Android on the phone, but it just seems that the tablet arena isn't anywhere near as far along and sorted out yet. Buggy, almost too many options, so you wonder how much love each model gets from the manufacturer, etc... I hate to have a new tablet for $300, and the only way to get it to run the way it was supposed to run out of the box, is to void the warranty, root and install a custom ROM on it, and give up some features in the process.
I like ROMs for things that they do above and beyond the stock experience. I don't feel that I should pay that much for a device and have a ROM be a requirement just to get it to run decently...
So, for my tablet needs, I had to go to the dark side. Good luck!
I will still rock my Note 4 and don't see myself going to Apple for my phone needs any time soon, but for a general purpose tablet for Netflix, email, browsing and basic games... I agonized for hours over this but in the end I just pulled the trigger and exchanged it.
Hi guys, I've got a nice little project for y'all
Like the title says, I have a crappy, old Chinese tablet (it was low specced back when I got it like 6 years ago so you do the math...) and I recently decided to mess with it because, why not? Anyway, specs are (from the top of my head) allwiner cpu (1.7 iirc), 512 mb ram, and 4 gb internal space. Yes, 4 of which less than a gig is available.
What I've done so far:
- root
- put in a micro SD (class 10)
- linked most apps (link2sd)
- frozen a couple of apps
- changed default launcher and browser to "lightweight" ones... (not sure about that though...)
I'd love it if you could help me get this POS to work as best as it can.
I'm looking to keep it as a a whatsapp and outlook client. With the occasional youtube video here and there and MAYBE as a chromecast device.
I'm looking for a TINY launcher (size AND footprint), same with a keyboard.
Also, I'd like to know which services and apps I could freeze or even remove without crippling the device (like I said, All I need it to do is whatsapp and outlook.)
Currently running arrow launcher (microsoft) which is as light as a car btw... and stock gboard keyboard (which is obviously very heavy on resources) and I'm almost positive it is running android 4.4.
And although the device works KINDA well I'd like to not have to wait for it to open the apps and for the keyboard to appear etc...
Sadly there are no custom roms available (obviously since not even the people who designed and produced this tablet know of its existence..)Any ideas would be very appreciated.
Thanks guys!
Oh, almost forgot. By any chance are there any alternative light weight clients to either whatsapp or outlook?
Thanks again.