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I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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So change the home screen and change the theme. Better yet, you could cook a rom yourself if you're unhappy instead of starting another pointless thread.
paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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Then change your theme and home screen, my friend!
Well while the roms may seem similar, some are much faster and more stable than others.
As for your other point, the beauty of windows mobile is that you can do whatever you please with it by simply installing cabs. Don't like HTC Home? Remove it and replace it. Sick of the HTC black theme? Change it. By simply searching on google, you can find thousands of windows mobile themes.
If you want your phone to be really unique and interesting, you can't count on different roms. The rom chefs make a good base rom for you, it is up to you to personalize it.
You could always try any of these things to help sproose your phone up.
http://www.oakridgehobbies.com/plastic_models/testors_model_paints.html
or
http://www.ccartwright.com/
Much better then changing your background. You can change the FOREGROUND
paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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If all roms are the same, why have you bothered flashing new ones? Obviously your original shipped rom is as good as those offered here because "... they are all basically the same" - so why not flash back to the original and stop creating pointless threads.
The reason you (and we) flash new roms is because of the subtle differences - some faster, some more stable, some better looking without tweaks, maybe also because only ONE component is better etc etc.
As for no one making a rom that is "different or interesting" - I find them all different AND interesting. I'm also trying to learn how to cook my own by extracting or adding the components that I like best - if I come up with Rom Utopia I'll post it here - but I won't find this Utopia until I try all the other roms and extract the best bits.
In summary - flash if you want to or don't bother if they are all the same anyway, but stop posting useless junk, and stop criticising the work of others until you are in a position to be their peer.
This thread so doesn't belong in this forum.
-McMex
paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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Paulmezza, you have the beginnings of a valid point here, but you haven't finished it. What would you like to see in a ROM that would make it stand out from the crowd? There are some great programs and customisations out there, why not make a list of what you'd like to see in a ROM, and then post it. As other people have pointed out, we're only limited by the core Windows Mobile OS itself, everything else on the phone can be customized and tweaked. Post what you'd like to see and you might inspire a budding chef to build some of your ideas in - or you can take the plunge and cook it yourself!
There are some many applications out there that you can use to mod your phone to make it special. Go check out handango.com or somewhere else to find what your looking for. or Google UI's for your phone. The only things making your device generic is you.
paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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i agree with u it would be good if cooks did have major changes between their roms, i wanted to try and cook my own a t-mobile themed wm 6.1 rom but too complicated and i have no time cose busy with school since its the final year. No need to attack this guy for this its just his and my opinion, some days im sitting here looking at the detail of the roms see if there is anything to attract me to a certain rom end up basicly throwing a dart of a board with their names pinned onto it.
Mods please close this pointless thread......
its not all that point less whats wrong with a little criticism? i mean i like the work of the cooks im not saying i hate to roms juts variety would be good as well.
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i agree with u it would be good if cooks did have major changes between their roms, i wanted to try and cook my own a t-mobile themed wm 6.1 rom but too complicated and i have no time cose busy with school since its the final year. No need to attack this guy for this its just his and my opinion, some days im sitting here looking at the detail of the roms see if there is anything to attract me to a certain rom end up basicly throwing a dart of a board with their names pinned onto it.
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What he stated in his post was that quote:
"Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen"
So the problem for him is the fact that they all look the same, not that there are subtle differences between them. So like others have already said, if someone does not like the look of a Rom, go ahead & change the appearance! Take the time to learn how to use RLToday, Ultimate Launcher, WAD and the whole slew of other Today Plugins and Customization apps that are out there. Its not really the chefs job to supply the eye candy, thats where individual taste comes in. Their main goal is cooking up a fast stable rom.
Part of the problem lies with the end user...
Before selecting a Rom do you really know what you want out of your device?
I for one decided that as Applications are bound to change and what I want to do with my device is equally varied I would be better off the what's known as a "Clean" Rom.
So when I cook Roms that is what I make. I remove everything except the Core OS. then I add in registry settings that I prefer such as cache settings, at&t keyboard layout, etc.
Then I take all of the extracted applicatons and build cab files for them (unless I find someone else has already done a good job of this) and I collect those cab files into one place to share with everyone.
So with my XDA Live Rom what I've ended-up with is exactly the applications I choose to use with the max amount of free storage space. The effect is that I don't put any cache files/e-mail attachements on my storage card so I can safely use it when connected to my PC(s) via Card Export II.
Like anything in this universe, cooked roms are only what you make of them...
kyphur said:
Part of the problem lies with the end user...
Before selecting a Rom do you really know what you want out of your device?
I for one decided that as Applications are bound to change and what I want to do with my device is equally varied I would be better off the what's known as a "Clean" Rom.
So when I cook Roms that is what I make. I remove everything except the Core OS. then I add in registry settings that I prefer such as cache settings, at&t keyboard layout, etc.
Then I take all of the extracted applicatons and build cab files for them (unless I find someone else has already done a good job of this) and I collect those cab files into one place to share with everyone.
So with my XDA Live Rom what I've ended-up with is exactly the applications I choose to use with the max amount of free storage space. The effect is that I don't put any cache files/e-mail attachements on my storage card so I can safely use it when connected to my PC(s) ia Card Export II.
Like anything in this universe, cooked roms are only what you make of them...
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I would like a fast clean rom with wm 6.1 (sinces its faster imo) i don't have a clue about registry stuff so one with all the necessary tweaks, your roms is at&t so thats why i don't use it since i have an mda vario III and havn't noticed a 6.1 one
paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU PAULMEZZA. This is BS and I'm sick of it too.
Now please excuse me as I watch 700 channels of HD TV with my mind scanning remote control and automatic potatoe chip feeder...
a lot of cooks want to accomodate for the majority out there. Some cooks made a couple themes for theres and they put in a lot of hard work changing every bit of icon on the rom. If you are looking for something totally different, try some third party software to change up your desktop. There is this you can look at.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products.php?prod=WisBar+Advance+Desktop
This just gets better all the time....
Ignore at will...
paulmezza: you get a bit of slamming for not being respectful of the hard work people put in. "sick of", geez! Be nice and appreciate free stuff.
Confused-Stu: Nice, respectful, I agree.
TheOccult: not-so-respectful, but funny.
Several others: Dang, the stompfest just keeps going on when one doesn't agree. Especially when a precious thread is started, or an already answered question is asked.
How about a little courtesy, restraint and patience. This is becoming almost comical. What's next timeouts?
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How about a little courtesy, restraint and patience. This is becoming almost comical. What's next timeouts?
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I just got out of timeout from the wife for spending too much time here... =)
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Ignore at will...
paulmezza: you get a bit of slamming for not being respectful of the hard work people put in. "sick of", geez! Be nice and appreciate free stuff.
Confused-Stu: Nice, respectful, I agree.
TheOccult: not-so-respectful, but funny.
Several others: Dang, the stompfest just keeps going on when one doesn't agree. Especially when a precious thread is started, or an already answered question is asked.
How about a little courtesy, restraint and patience. This is becoming almost comical. What's next timeouts?
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"almost comical"?! Man, I tried my best to MAKE it comical.
Before you say that I shouldn't whine for things and that I should try something myself before I beg for something, I have something to say. I've been going a whole week at this trying to somehow port this beautiful MIUI rom to the Aria. I have tried theme porter by taking a translated MIUI rom for another android device and I tried to use attn1's CM 6 rom and try to swap things here and there to make an aesthetically pleasing rom, but when I tried to flash, no luck. Nothing happened. Yet, I saw someone else do this for G1, but I am a novice, not like I know a lot about porting. I know a big problem is that MIUI is for HDPI devices, and I tried to convert but was met with meager success. Now, my request is that maybe someone like attn1 or another android rom expert port MIUI to the Aria. Like I said, I attempted my best but was met with little success. The best I could do was create a pseudo MIUI launcher system, still need to work on the dock.
Here is how my Aria is set up right now (launcher only)
i56(dot)tinypic(dot)com/2uib12c(dot)png (darn picture restriction)
I also have the iphone lock screen and keyboard, lets face it, iOS is more aesthetically pleasing while android is all about the user and customization. This is the very reason I want MIUI, a great bridge taking the best of both worlds.
MIUI would be fun to mess around with. However, the Aria does not have a huge set of developer support. And I don't think that Attn1 is willing to devote the effort required to port MIUI to our phone.
I've been trying to do the same. Except I have an incredible too, that has miui on it, that I've been trying to port it from.
The only problem is the framework and mdpi issues. Its gonna take some time to get this successfully running.
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i personally only want miui for the toolbar, many home screens, and some of the built in apps. I do not howerver want the app icons and iosy look.
btx here are some devs working on putting this on another mdpi device... the hero, our good old htc cousin...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858935
The g1 has the same screen size and resolution as the aria so perhaps try working your port from the g1 rom instead?
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The g1 has the same screen size and resolution as the aria so perhaps try working your port from the g1 rom instead?
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G1 has no miui rom. They have a WIP going on though... see here for details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794871&highlight=miui
So r u saying that we fan flash g1 roms?
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No you can't flash g1 roms because the hardware is entirely different, but the screen size and resolution is the same between them so as far as porting a rom goes, its a better place to start than a rom for something like an evo.
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O ok
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So..
I'm guessing it either can't be done or the task is way too tedious for a ROM that pretty much might be overshadowed by CM 7 (2.3 if we get that)
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I'm guessing it either can't be done or the task is way too tedious for a ROM that pretty much might be overshadowed by CM 7 (2.3 if we get that)
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Oh don't worry. We are
I don't want to come out as needy and disrespectful. This is just a request.
Can anyone creat a custome ROM that is as close to stock as possible?
With a few exceptions. Of course remove all the bloat ware, creat a new status bar by removing the t-mobile logo that waists space and the previously used apps (we all know how to hold the home button), and lastly make a numeric battery. Try not to use the circle batterys but stay as close to the original as possible.
Ooh as well fix sence 3.0 and have lockscreen icons.
Also I do use the caller I'd feature T-Mobile provides I don't want $4 down the drain so.please keep that function.
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patience, young jedi... I'm sure someone will come out with something soon. I'd like exactly what you're asking for, too!
if I ever get some free time (not likely in the next 2 weeks) I will start cooking up some roms for us. I'm in the middle of a big transition right now and just haven't had time to sit down and start tearing roms apart. -____-
op: have you checked out the UOT kitchen? you can accomplish most of the status bar and battery tweaks you want through it.
the bloatware I would just uninstall with TiBu or any other program capable of uninstalling system apps.
the sense 3.0 lockscreen... not too sure. I've always been an aosp guy so I haven't spent much time modding sense.
Im in the same boat as queen I have something in the works also soone as I finish this rom for my epic !
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No rush guys this phone isn't going anywhere. I would love to learn how to cook. I need to get over the big learning curve. The only reasone I ask is because there are specific files I don't know if are usefull or not. Like for example the new caller id feature I don't know witch files are associated with it. I do freeze as much as I can in tibp but I feel like its still slowing the phone down or taking up space. I've been a windows user a long long time and feel like when you uninstall something it's not the same as having a clean install. I can't get over that mindset. BTW thanks for the quick responce.
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patience, young jedi... I'm sure someone will come out with something soon. I'd like exactly what you're asking for, too!
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You and I think a like in everything. I'm curious as to how your phone looks like boot screen and what not
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Madblaster6 said:
... create a new status bar by removing the t-mobile logo that waists space and the previously used apps (we all know how to hold the home button), and lastly make a numeric battery. Try not to use the circle batterys but stay as close to the original as possible.
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Those two changes require a framework hack, which requires another hack in services to disable signature verification. I've always wanted to remove those damn "Recent Apps" from the status bar, but only recently learned how to disable signature verification for when the framework is modified.
We have some amazing devs I'm sure sence 3.0 framework will be easly modified. Although I'm sure you can change the status bar without framwork mods like they did on the MyTouch 4g. Unless I'm wrong. Also thanks for revolution.
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Madblaster6 said:
I don't want to come out as needy and disrespectful. This is just a request.
Can anyone creat a custome ROM that is as close to stock as possible?
With a few exceptions. Of course remove all the bloat ware, creat a new status bar by removing the t-mobile logo that waists space and the previously used apps (we all know how to hold the home button), and lastly make a numeric battery. Try not to use the circle batterys but stay as close to the original as possible.
Ooh as well fix sence 3.0 and have lockscreen icons.
Also I do use the caller I'd feature T-Mobile provides I don't want $4 down the drain so.please keep that function.
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Until ROMs start coming out, use titanium backup to uninstall any of the bloatware you don't want. I uninstalled just about every app on my phone, and installed better versions of the ones I wanted, and in one case I uninstalled a stock app, then downloaded the same app from the market.
After getting rid of all the bloatware I noticed drastic battery life improvement, so I started looking at other things that were always running in the background, two of them were the preinstalled note pad app and Google Maps. I would stop them, and they would be back running in a matter of moments. I uninstalled both of them, downloaded Google Maps and ColorNote. For some reason, Maps is never running in the background any more. Not sure why that worked, but it did.
Well as I said in the post before I'm using the freeze function for now so I don't ruin anything. It goes into why I don't like doing that.
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I've always wanted to remove those damn "Recent Apps" from the status bar,
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15417961&postcount=107
I wish I knew what that ment.
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I wish I knew what that ment.
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Means you have to copy SystemUI.apk to your computer, decompile it, re-write part of the code, re-compile it back into an .apk, then install it on the phone.
One of those "easier said then done" things, but not terribly difficult if you read through the thread and take the time to install the tools you need to your computer.
I'm intrigued by this, but there are other things on my list for this phone before I get around to something like this.
Is it just me or is the mt4gs forum dead? I know its the summer and all but wow. Not an attemp at anything. I'm not talking about custome roms. I'm talking about everything.
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Yeah it's awful. I'm at work all day refreshing for new content, and I'm left disappointed about 90% of the time. I need something to flash!!!
I've actually just decided to try recruiting devs from the Sensation forum. Given the similarity between the devices, I'm hoping that it wouldn't be too difficult for someone out there to help us out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229985
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Is it just me or is the mt4gs forum dead? I know its the summer and all but wow. Not an attemp at anything. I'm not talking about custome roms. I'm talking about everything.
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I wasn't expecting much dev support here in the beginning. I think ports will start showing up slowly but don't expect it to be anything like the Sensation subforum.
it's a shame because this is a killer device that can run anything thrown at it. with some patience and luck we'll get some devs who are interested in creating things for the slide... maybe from the G2 section once more people start changing over.
at least there's really nothing function-wise on the stock rom that makes it unusable for me. once the bloat is gone and ADW ex (or whatever home replacement you like) is loaded, it's pretty much all I need.. some aosp love would sure be nice though for me.
Yea, but it's a new device...and an expensive one so a lot of people don't have one yet.
For early adopters it's hard sometimes, my approach has just been to try to document everything as thoroughly as possible so that when devs do come, they have less work to do.
Of course, the best way to get something done is to do it yourself - i'd like to make my own ROM for this device, but i'm a long way from that. It'll happen, but i'm pretty positive that by the time I get it all figured out Cyanogenmod will have been ported to this device.
Still won't stop me from doing it though, i'm too curious.
Meantime, posting up everything we can learn about the phone will help in getting a custom ROM when a dev willing to do so comes through here.
I was wondering the same thing. I'm coming from the HD2 and the Galaxy St Vibrant so anyone who knows those phones understands.... I was thinking this forum would be a little more lively.
I've gone from refreshing a lot to refreshing once a day.
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Yeah. Totaly. Look at the phones I've owned in the signature. I remember going back to the razer the forums were packed with hex mods and java games. Maybe not this specific one. Still this is the biggest mt4gs forum.
Someone above noted that the phone is new and expensive. That is definitely a factor. Also, from what I saw, T-Mobile didn't really market this phone heavily before it came out. Right at the launch I saw a good amount of ads but not long before. Like the SGS2 has gotten real advertising saturation. This phone is a real contender but because it doesn't have a huge screen it received, and continues to receive, less attention.
Things will pick up but at this point I have prepared myself for a wait. Devs will eventually get the word on how good it is and then things will pick up but it will take some time. For me, the hardware we have is worth the wait.
I did have a thought. Find out if there are devs working on this phone. If not, we could look at collectively getting a phone to a dev that could get it moving.
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So at this point I would like to think that I am no stranger to Android development, however, as I move into the world of ROMs this is clearly not the case. I have had a number of people suggest that as part of the Seven+ Project we developer a WP7/ Metro UI ROM. I think that is a great idea, but just do not know where to begin.
With that said I would like people's feedback on the following:
Would you use such a ROM?
What features would you expect in such a ROM?
What ROM/ source should it be based off of?
What is preferable, open or closed source?
Would you be interested in working on a ROM?
With the unimaginable success of MIUI it has come to my intention that open source may not also be the way to go. Also, I would like to reach as many devices as possible but am not sure how. Basically, I am no ROM maker and that is why I really need people's feedback. This could be the next major ROM, or a novelty that few if any find valuable. So please, let me know what you think and who knows, perhaps we can get started on a ROM!
- Tom
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I'd use it,
I would like to see integration into social networks
maybe based on CyanogenMod, that way it may be easier to port to lots of devices?
Open source would be nice too
I would certainly try out the rom, I mean it would be a brand new experience. Now I would expect a full WP7 experience and with the innovations of Android (Take a look at HTC Sense, You can get some ideas what people like there). I agree this should be based off of Cyanogenmod. It has a large user base and should be easier to port from device to device. I tend to disagree with your view of closed sourced is better. Sure MIUI has been successful but it's no where near where it could of been if it was open, and also don't forget it's also based off cyanogenmod which is open sourced which allowed such creations as MIUI to be made. Open sourced allows software to become better and having it closed source just limits the rom. I don't have many if any skills for developing a rom, but if you needed testers I would be glad to help.
Would you use such a ROM?
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Definitely, I thought about even making one but lots of the items are paid for items and it's against XDA rules to add pay-for items into a ROM.
What features would you expect in such a ROM?
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Launcher, Status Bar (Native, not an app), contacts, phone, framework-res mods (so the WP7 look is universal, and not just limited to the app alone), WP7 style texting app, keyboard, Lockscreen, and more.
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Cyanogenmod 7. However with MIUI's theme engine it would be a better choice, but then it would be more of a theme and less of a ROM. Also you might have issues if you're using the status bar + app, since for some reason, it appears under MIUI's status bar.
What is preferable, open or closed source?
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Anything Windows styled shall remain closed source, while Android itself remains open source.
Would you be interested in working on a ROM?
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Sure, depending on the circumstances. Could simply port to myTouch 4G from DHD, or G2 (or it can be the other way around) and have a synchronized release.. or other options.
My 2 Cents.
Very Good!
Yes Please! WP7 with google apps? Who doesn't want that?
So it seems that either only people interested in such a ROM found this forum post and replied, or people really do want a Metro UI ROM.
The closed/ open source issue is one we could ultimately decide on in the future, but making the UI open source would essentially eliminate the profitability of my work, and if the absolutely impossible were to occur and M$ realizes that Android could be a better Metro UI platform than WP7 should it be open source it would simply become theirs.
As for framework modifications that is certainly my intent. There is no reason TabHost could not be replaced with a Pivot control, use the same API perhaps with a custom XML namespace for additional control, and simply ignore the icons. Much of the same goes for menus and contextual menus. Other features like Panoramic controls would be additional features that would need to be explitictly used.
Now the suite of applications is important, and likely leads to a potential profit area. The ROM could be on XDA because it would be free, and for a fee all applications could be unlocked to become the full featured version. I certainly think CM would be a great base because of its broad compatibility. Otherwise thanks everyone for the feedback, I hope to get more soon.
- Tom
Founder and Developer
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I would use it if made compatible with my Samsung Admire.
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I would use it. I was waiting for this.
Samsung Epic 4G.
Id' love this
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Being completely honest here, but no, I wouldn't use it no matter how good it was.
The simple reason being that I really don't like that people keep trying to emulate the look and feel of OTHER mobile OS's in Android. What's wrong with Android's OWN look and feel? We should be trying to make THAT stand out as much as possible, not pretend to be the competition!
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I would use it if made compatible with my Samsung Admire.
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+1 too right mate, Samsung admire rocks if you have wifi and I would love to see this phone get this rom
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I would definitely use it!
I would definitely use it! I feel like it's very important though that it has the feel of your UI demo App. With the notifications being the same access color and coming from the top. Pop-up 7 just doesn't really cut it when it comes to that. The variable alphas and low res buttons make it seem quickly put together. That being said I've been wondering for a while when/how you were planning on putting together/implementing a rom that had ALL of the components together and meshing well. I'm really excited to see this and will be checking back often (if not daily). Thanks for all your good work!
I would use it! if it's compatible with HTC wildfire, nobody work on ldpi device neither roms nor themes, only cm give somenthing compatible for us, an alternative would be appreciated, especially if it is somenthing light such as the wp7 ui
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Being completely honest here, but no, I wouldn't use it no matter how good it was.
The simple reason being that I really don't like that people keep trying to emulate the look and feel of OTHER mobile OS's in Android. What's wrong with Android's OWN look and feel? We should be trying to make THAT stand out as much as possible, not pretend to be the competition!
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Why? It is simple: Android has a terrible user experience and from the looks of things (Honeycomb, ICS leak) it is not getting any better. That, and who even gets to see Android anymore? Carriers even with Honeycomb slab their UI and suite on top of Android to the point were frankly it no longer is Android.
I guess then the question is why make a WP7 ROM. Well the Metro UI is simple and effective, not to mention it could be easily done more performant than other (cough, Sense) UIs. Also, I have a great deal of code for Android that can give it that look and feel.
While a suite of applications is great it does not cut it. There is simply too much that can only be done as a ROM. Lately Android has been becoming more closed (no HC source, removal of APIs and permissions from the SDK), so before its too late I should think most would be happy that they get the best of both worlds: Android has a large application catalog and WP7 a great UI.
Just my though process, and if I can find developers to collaborate with I would love to begin a fork of CM7 for this ROM.
- Tom
Founder and Developer
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tombarr said:
Why? It is simple: Android has a terrible user experience and from the looks of things (Honeycomb, ICS leak) it is not getting any better. That, and who even gets to see Android anymore? Carriers even with Honeycomb slab their UI and suite on top of Android to the point were frankly it no longer is Android.
I guess then the question is why make a WP7 ROM. Well the Metro UI is simple and effective, not to mention it could be easily done more performant than other (cough, Sense) UIs. Also, I have a great deal of code for Android that can give it that look and feel.
While a suite of applications is great it does not cut it. There is simply too much that can only be done as a ROM. Lately Android has been becoming more closed (no HC source, removal of APIs and permissions from the SDK), so before its too late I should think most would be happy that they get the best of both worlds: Android has a large application catalog and WP7 a great UI.
Just my though process, and if I can find developers to collaborate with I would love to begin a fork of CM7 for this ROM.
- Tom
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i would definitely like to help on this ROM, and I totally agree cyanogen should be used as a base.
but, it wouldn't be that hard to compile everything on top of cyanogen, but building the replacing apks is a lot harder. for those, I should knock on the door from the devs from www.wp7android.com they have already a great start with several applications. And maybe they are interested too in creating a ROM.
So if you would like to let me join you, you got your chef for the desire s.
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And because I don't know everything, I'd learn from this too.
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djpbx said:
i would definitely like to help on this ROM, and I totally agree cyanogen should be used as a base.
but, it wouldn't be that hard to compile everything on top of cyanogen, but building the replacing apks is a lot harder. for those, I should knock on the door from the devs from www.wp7android.com they have already a great start with several applications. And maybe they are interested too in creating a ROM.
So if you would like to let me join you, you got your chef for the desire s.
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And because I don't know everything, I'd learn from this too.
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Most of the devs in Seven+ project are from Wp7android.com which kinda collasped as far as I can see
A WP7 Rom would be great. I would use it. CM7 is probably the best AOSP platform to adapt, imho.
Would you use such a ROM?
Of course
What features would you expect in such a ROM?
Speed and less CPU consumption.
What ROM/source should it be based off of?
Nexus Prime or Sony Arc S
What is preferable, open or closed source?
Open Source
Would you be interested in working on a ROM?
I try my best to give suggestion or design a few things for it.
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If you are looking for developer, there are plenty to be listed bro.
I know this is a bit late in the HTC Hero game but I still have mine and I still mess around with it a lot and while it wasnt until recently that I decided to see if I could dig up info on changing the splash screen and found some info and decided that I would create a nice little tool just to make it a bit quicker for me so I thought I would share it.
Huge than you to tehdarkknight for his original tutorial. Without it this would have not been possible.
All I did was simply create a easy to use batch file to make converting the images and automatically renaming them much easier for everyone.
tehdarkknights original HowTo can be found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7847088
What is a Splashscreen?
The splashscreen is the image that shows up before recovery/your ROM's bootscreen/etc... By default, it is the white screen with green HTC lettering (if you have flashed Sprint's 2.1 release.)
The method used here is for flashing the HERCIMG.zip via the bootloader (HBoot)
All of the instructions are included in the download and its pretty self explanatory.
Hope this is of use and hope it works for you.
DOWNLOAD:
http://bit.ly/KrBLYe
Code:
DISCLAIMER:
THIS IS FOR THE HTC HERO ONLY
YOU ARE USING THIS TOOL AT YOUR OWN RISK AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE
FOR ANY DAMAGE THAT MAY OCCUR FROM YOU MODIFYING YOUR PHONE.
v0.10
Initial release
Thanks for providing this. I find that bright white HTC screen rather annoying. It would be great to replace it with something far more muted.
By the way, have you ever replaced the boot animation screen that follows? I discovered UOT Kitchen, but I've been a bit leery to try it for fear of wrecking the bootloader and becoming stuck.. I'm on CM 7.2 with TWRP and the last CM ROM supported on UOT is 7.1. Plus, it only mentions being compatible with CWM 3. The boot animation doesn't require modifying any APK files, so that's one thing that is less concerning. But... you never know, until you hear about someone having tried it successfully.
Incidentally, I'm finding CM7.2 with TWRP to be a terrific combination. The phone is quite a lot better than it was. I missed having HTC Sense, but Fancy Widgets provides a nearly identical clock/weather widget so the home screen looks good. And of course functionally, you're so much more liberated with CM7. I wish I'd done this over a year ago!
cytherian said:
Thanks for providing this. I find that bright white HTC screen rather annoying. It would be great to replace it with something far more muted.
By the way, have you ever replaced the boot animation screen that follows? I discovered UOT Kitchen, but I've been a bit leery to try it for fear of wrecking the bootloader and becoming stuck.. I'm on CM 7.2 with TWRP and the last CM ROM supported on UOT is 7.1. Plus, it only mentions being compatible with CWM 3. The boot animation doesn't require modifying any APK files, so that's one thing that is less concerning. But... you never know, until you hear about someone having tried it successfully.
Incidentally, I'm finding CM7.2 with TWRP to be a terrific combination. The phone is quite a lot better than it was. I missed having HTC Sense, but Fancy Widgets provides a nearly identical clock/weather widget so the home screen looks good. And of course functionally, you're so much more liberated with CM7. I wish I'd done this over a year ago!
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UOT Kitchen won't "wreck your bootloader."
The boot animation is just a zip file in /system/media. It will either work or not. It won't stop anything.
Everybody has used UOT, you're just a litttttle bit late to the game.
Any questions just ask
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What he said.
Thanks for the help, guys. Btw ajrty, I saw one of your more recent themes from earlier this year... looks really nice and dimensional. Did you create those icons or find them on-line?
Yeah, I do realize that I'm very late to the party... I missed a lot of the excitement with new ROMs and the tension in the early stages of getting things to work right. But on the flipside, a lot of the work has already been done making it easy for those who show up later. I do have a few questions about UOT Kitchen, as there's not a lot of info provided on the website. I know a series of GIF files wouldn't cause any harm, but I just worried that the other files that direct their usage might not be compatible. It's good to know this isn't the case. In retrospect, it makes sense that Android would be more robust and simply skip any incompatible scripting like that and proceed to normal boot.
Can you use UOT kitchen to generate font updates and various indicator replacements on the Hero with CM 7.2? Do you have to select "Amend scripting" versus "Edify scripting"? Concerning Cyanbread.apk and Androidian.apk, which one is preferable or required to upload so that the theme update works on the Hero? Lastly, is there a particular thread you recommend reading that provides a lot of useful tips and examples on using UOT Kitchen for the Hero?
Switched over to dev-host so should be easier to download for people. Guess Mediafire was requiring people to register to download the files and I know how that can be a pain sometimes just to DL a file.
Updated the download link if anyone want this still.