[Q] Netflix? - Captivate General

Netflix plays on silverlight.
There is a linux silverlight project called moonlight.
Android is Linux.
My searching has found 0 tutorials on how to get all of that together so I can stream netflix movies onto my captivate.
I did see the article about netflix saying in 2011 that there will be a netflix branded app on some devices but it doesnt list devices so not even sure if that would help.

Moonlight doesn't work with Netflix even on Ubuntu or Fedora, or any other Linux build. On normal Linux, even when switching the UA string to one that identifies as Windows, it still isn't compatible. To watch Netflix on Linux you have to create a VM with Windows and use Silverlight there.
It is a nice idea though. I hear Netflix is coming out with an Android client here soon. They maybe waiting on Gingerbread or Honeycomb.

So I guess the question here is this: What would it take to get virtualbox ported to android??

veive said:
So I guess the question here is this: What would it take to get virtualbox ported to android??
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More RAM in our devices.

Two things to add
1. Oracle needs to stop suing Google (VirtualBox was Sun and now Oracle) for VirtualBox to be even remotely ported to something like Android.
2. Android to stop fragmenting so badly that companies like Netflix has to write specific versions of the app for the platform (refer to Angry Birds dev about the topic if you are curious).

Thanks guys - good information...
If Netflix comes out for a phone such as the droid incredible but not for the captivate because the droid has a "DRM" path or something.
Will it be easy for people to "steal" the app so we can get it to work on captivate? Or is it hard to do stuff like that?

NinjaCoder said:
Thanks guys - good information...
If Netflix comes out for a phone such as the droid incredible but not for the captivate because the droid has a "DRM" path or something.
Will it be easy for people to "steal" the app so we can get it to work on captivate? Or is it hard to do stuff like that?
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No doubt, that's one MAJOR factor thats held back Netflix for soo long on Android... DRM. With Android being as open as it is, Netflix's content providers won't allow it without some kind of strong DRM. It would probably be as easy to "barrow" as Blockbuster from a VZW Android phone.
VirtualBox won't run Windows on a phone. Not enough memory, and CPU emulation from ARM to x86 is crazy slow on something like a phone CPU, no matter if it's 1GHz or 1.28GHz like mine. The UI for an emulated XP, for example, would be like a seriously laggy powerpoint presentation.
We're best off not even thinking about it until an official client is announced.

killatt said:
2. Android to stop fragmenting so badly that companies like Netflix has to write specific versions of the app for the platform (refer to Angry Birds dev about the topic if you are curious).
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That's not an issue. EVERY Android phone is capable of displaying streaming video. Even the 528MHz MSM7200 based phones can handle streams of up to 1500Kb/s.

Even if the phone is capable of streaming video, Androids fragmentation is getting in the way of the streaming software. For example, the android ustream app does not work on the Galaxy S.

Serisium said:
Even if the phone is capable of streaming video, Androids fragmentation is getting in the way of the streaming software. For example, the android ustream app does not work on the Galaxy S.
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Again, that has nothing to do with fragmentation. That app is in Beta, so bugs on different builds of Android are 100% expected.

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[Q] Stream Netflix to Android?

So even on my brand new MT4G with Flash, it won't let me stream from the website and to my knowledge the Netflix App doesn't yet support video like it does on the iPhone.
Has anyone else figured out a workaround yet? I was thinking maybe there's some way to "trick" the YouTube app into doing it for me.
Thanks!
Im not exactly sure, but i think netflix uses silverlight and that doesnt work on android. There is no official netflix app on android yet.
http://blog.netflix.com/2010/11/netflix-on-android.html
The same security issues that have led to piracy concerns on the Android platform have made it difficult for us to secure a common Digital Rights Management (DRM) system on these devices. Setting aside the debate around the value of content protection and DRM, they are requirements we must fulfill in order to obtain content from major studios for our subscribers to enjoy. Although we don’t have a common platform security mechanism and DRM, we are able to work with individual handset manufacturers to add content protection to their devices. Unfortunately, this is a much slower approach and leads to a fragmented experience on Android, in which some handsets will have access to Netflix and others won’t.
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Silver light, a MS app, runs netflix streaming
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Netflix?

Is it possible to watch Netflix on the touchpad?
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Don't think so. I'm not a professional, but without an official release from Netflix to the WebOS (or at least a port from Android) we will never be able to do it. It uses silverlight and not flash, that's the problem...
Nop, but amazon on demand does (for whatever that's worth).
Netflix is not currently and will probably never be officially supported for WebOS (which of course is the OS that the Touchpad uses). However, there are some solutions.
Currently, you could use Playon. I've not tried it on the TP personally, but I heard it does not work very well and if it's anything like my experience with Android, then I'd have to agree with those people.
Upcoming solutions, 1) Wait for Android. If Android is not something you are interested in then perhaps, 2) Wait for Splashtop Remote Desktop. Splashtop is the only remote desktop app I've used that plays media from a remote location as if it's playing natively on the device you are using. It's wonderful piece of software and it's coming soon to WebOS.
If neither of those solutions are something you might want to try, unfortunately, you may be out of options. Netflix does not see making an app for webOS worth it's while so we will probably never see an app. Silverlight is what PC's use to play Netflix in the browser, unfortunately that will likely never be supported either.

Develop an Air Play app for Android (Stream any audio to any reciever)

For those of you not familiar with Rogue Amoeba they are the developers of a very popular iOS/OS X and now Windows application called Airfoil that is capable of streaming any audio source to any Airplay capable device or any device with their "Airspeaker" app installed on it.
As you can imagine they have had great success with this app. Unfortunately they have no plans to develop a version for android. This was made clear in a post in February located here:
rogueamoeba.com/utm/2012/02/18/sending-any-audio-to-android-devices-via-airplay-with-airfoil/
I also contacted Paul Kafasis (CEO of RA) and his response was the same explaining further that Android actively prevents access to it's audio making it nearly impossible to develop an app for android. I've included our conversation below as well.
ME:
I would like to officially submit my request to have the Airfoil app developed for Android.
With over 300,000,0000 android devices sold worldwide as of February 2012 (over 10 times the amount of iOS devices despite a 16 month head start) and another 850,0000 activated every day the potential here is absolutely enormous.
Please seriously reconsider your decision to not develop for android at this time.
PAUL:
Hi Drew,
It's an interesting idea, but at this time, I'm afraid we have no plans for Airfoil for Android. While Android allows for more access than iOS, it's still nearly impossible to grab another application's audio to send it out. As such, Airfoil for Android is a difficult proposition at best.
Perhaps more likely is an Airfoil Speakers client for Android, enabling you to *receive* audio on Android. We don't have any announced plans for that either, but it's likely what you'd see first, before an Airfoil for Android.
Anyhow, we'll keep our eye on the platform, and see what happens!
ME:
Paul,
Thanks for the quick response. I am not a programmer so I won't pretend to know the complexities involved with grabbing the audio output of the device and redirecting it but I wouldn't think it would be extremely difficult to redirect all audio on the device no different than when you plug in a set of headphones or send your audio over Bluetooth. This is what I believe to be the primary feature of your software. Being able to set each app individually to use airplay as a receiver would be nice but certainly not necessary for initial releases. I would hate to see someone beat you to it since you've done such a great job on your iOS, OS X and Windows applications.
PAUL:
Drew,
You wouldn't think so, no, but it is. Android simply does not make this functionality possible, and actively prevents it.
Anyway,
Where I'm getting with all this is that a lot of people would like to see an app with this capability developed for android. Especially now that a large number of devices (receivers, speakers, etc.) in recent years have started to come with airplay compatibility out of the box. People have been requesting this from Airfoil for over 2 years with no response. I was hoping to get the following answered from someone with an intimate knowledge of the capabilities of android:
1. Is it possible to develop an app that is capable of routing all audio on an android device to an Airplay device?
2. If not possible on a locked device, is it possible on a unlocked/rooted device?
3. Is this something anyone on here would be capable or interested in developing?
Thanks for all the help.
Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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I would LOVE to see an app like that! My whole house is wired for airplay with 6 zones and speakers in all ceilings. Iphones can play music in any room. Only app for Android is Honey Player and that is terribly buggy
It would be awesome if it was just possible to send ALL audio like bluetooth A2DP !!!
I just wanted to add my desire for such an app as well. I have airfoil all set up so I can stream from my laptop to my HTPC but it would be awesome if I could do it from my Android phone and tablet.
There must be a developer on here that could do such a thing and I for one would be willing to donate.
The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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DLNA is fine for streaming media files from one device to another but it is not capable of streaming media from a streaming service. I.e. streaming Google music or Tune In via airplay to your home stereo. Really the only solution to date is airplay or bluetooth and bluetooth just doesn't have the range. AM I missing some other solution?
iMediaShare has Airplay capabilities, I use it to stream to my AppleTV(s).
iMediaShare is not compatible with Airport Express at the moment...I tool would be willing to pay for an "Airfoil for android" type application the key being that it can send ANY audio source to the Airport Express.
Plus 1!
I am still looking for this! My apple days are over, but I still own 3 Airport Express devices and 1 appleTV.
JB has ability to do USB audio. Are we getting any closer to "airfoil-like" app for android. I too have 4 zones set up in whole house audio, and hate my first gen ipad these days. Whoever makes this app will make some serious money on the market.
Any news regarding this...?
Seriously... this would be a gold mine for the developer. There are so many Airplay speakers out there that would make playing music to your speakers so much easier.
Isn't it possible to root your device and send all sound output directly to an airplay device?
Sincerely
L
Airplay for Android? I think i'll try that!
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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I'd be interested in this as well. My GF has a airport express that I would love to stream to from my tablet/phone.
Negreac said:
It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
Just wanted to add my support for something like this. I would gladly pay money for this app. I have a Galaxy S2 skyrocket and a Nexus 7. I would love to be able to use my nexus 7 as an audio receiver and stream music from my phone (Play Music / Pandora / Songza / etc) to it. I realize I could set up these apps on the n7 itself and play directly that way, but the key is having the ability to control the music from my phone. Additionally, my friends who have Android phones and the app should be able to do the same with relative ease.
Currently I have AirFoil on my laptop and Android HiFi installed on my n7 and stream music that way. That is less than ideal. I don't understand why this is so difficult? But then again, I'm not a programmer.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
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I guess that works. I feel like it's kind of overkill and it sucks that you'd have to daisy-chain using both bluetooth and a laptop/desktop. But in the absence of anything else, we have to make due, right?
Airfoil can't intercept audio from the bluetooth stack server, I've tried.
I am also interested in such app
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I am also interested in such app
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We all are. It is shocking nothing has come of this.
It is indeed shocking. I'm guessing there's not a lot of work being done because it is too difficult (though I don't quite understand why that is). I am hoping Google blesses us with miracast in the next release.

Surface Music App

My Windows 8 phone supports podcasts in the music app however there is no option for this on the surface.
I thought the windows 8 lineup all supported the same abilities within the built in apps.
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My Windows 8 phone supports podcasts in the music app however there is no option for this on the surface.
I thought the windows 8 lineup all supported the same abilities within the built in apps.
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I'm sure there's an update in the works for the Phone app so that parity can be maintained (I believe that the Phone only supports podcasts in the US - can anyone confirm/contradict that?)
Win8 != WP8. Despite name confusion and MS claims of deeper integration, the two OSes have nothing to do with one another from a functional standpoint. From a technological standpoint, there are some similarities, but there are also many differences. For example, Win8 and Windows RT are unable to run WP7 apps, even though WP8 can.
I was deeply disappointed in the music app overall. Painfully slow, doesn't share to the Xbox or homeshare. Super annoying. Wp7 Zune is the fastest music app I've ever used aside from WMP. Just wish they would update with an overhaul.
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I was deeply disappointed in the music app overall. Painfully slow, doesn't share to the Xbox or homeshare. Super annoying. Wp7 Zune is the fastest music app I've ever used aside from WMP. Just wish they would update with an overhaul.
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I wish they would get rid of all the online options and let me see my music library as the primary view.
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I wish they would get rid of all the online options and let me see my music library as the primary view.
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You can a little bit. Go into settings, preferences, startup. You can't change search though.

does this blog post by Jean-Baptiste Kempf (Aug 28) mean that VLC is ready for RT??

http://www.jbkempf.com/blog/post/2013/VLC-2.1.0-rc1
I haven't seen any of the news organizations comment on the last blog post yet by JBK. He mentions Windows RT in one of the bullets, but I'm not tech savy enough to interpret the lingo.
Can anyone help me out in translating his blog post in relation to windows RT?
Says WinRT not windows RT. Somewhat confusing but the 2 are not one and the same. However now that WinRT is cracked I doubt it will be long until Windows RT is also cracked. As it stands right now VLC is not on the windows store for x86 either, I expect both ARM and x86 versions to be coming very soon though. Source code is there so it might well be possible to compile it for RT manually right now.
if you have time, can you explain the difference?
WinRT - Correct term for windows 8/RT metro apps, or rather the framework they run on. WinRT is a set of functions and libraries etc that all metro/modern/start apps use in order to run in both windows 8 and windows RT.
Windows RT - Windows 8 on ARM processors.
I think winRT is meant to mean windows runtime. Windows rt doesn't really mean anything though.
Ah, but it does. It means that Microsoft's branding folks are *still* braindead. They'l be the last people left after the zombie apocalypse; nothing they have would be of interest.
Seriously, this is from the people who brought you "Windows Phone 7 Series" instead of something like Xphone or Zune Phone or some such. I thought they canned that guy, but apparently it wasn't confined to him...
Is there a way to build this state of progress from source to test it? I only found a tut for cross-compiling it for old arm (pda).
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Blade
BIade said:
Is there a way to build this state of progress from source to test it? I only found a tut for cross-compiling it for old arm (pda).
Cheers
Blade
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They only posted source to VLC itself, not the MinGW toolchain required to target WinRT so we can't test windows 8/RT app support yet on x86 or ARM.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
They only posted source to VLC itself, not the MinGW toolchain required to target WinRT so we can't test windows 8/RT app support yet on x86 or ARM.
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Oh Thank you very much for your answer (so fast). So good to know. Still waiting for a good free mkv player. "mobile.hd media player" (trail expired) and "PowerDVD mobile" (trail running) are very very good to play mkv, but sadly not free...
BIade said:
Oh Thank you very much for your answer (so fast). So good to know. Still waiting for a good free mkv player. "mobile.hd media player" (trail expired) and "PowerDVD mobile" (trail running) are very very good to play mkv, but sadly not free...
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download VLC on another PC. Control+R. In the window which appears click Add. Click the little arrow on the convert/save button, click convert. Leave it at default settings (or play with it if you wish), set the output file to "file.mp4" of course changing file for the name you want. Hit start. Takes awhile though (about as long as the original file itself takes to play sometimes).
In my life I have never come across an mkv file, ever. Convert it to something else, play on RT.
Hey, I'm aware of that we can play mp4 files on our RT, but sadly my hd-movie-collection is 500GB+ and it would be hard to convert all the videos. There are also some players for the RT, which converts mkv to mp4 just before you want to watch, and it also takes a while. I was just stunned as I saw, that our RT is able to play that 10GB+-mkv-file flawlessly (with the mentioned players), without any framedrops or stucking or audio-lagging. So I think, I just wait a bit...
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Hey, I'm aware of that we can play mp4 files on our RT, but sadly my hd-movie-collection is 500GB+ and it would be hard to convert all the videos. There are also some players for the RT, which converts mkv to mp4 just before you want to watch, and it also takes a while. I was just stunned as I saw, that our RT is able to play that 10GB+-mkv-file flawlessly (with the mentioned players), without any framedrops or stucking or audio-lagging. So I think, I just wait a bit...
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It wouldn't be that hard to convert your MKV files to MP4. No re-encoding is necessary, just a re-writing of the files in MP4 containers. It takes only a few minutes/GB. Just find a converter that will batch process. I think that MKV/AVI to MP4 (for non-RT Windows) does that. It'll take all night or all afternoon to go through 500GB, but it won't require any supervision.
Keep in mind, though, that a main reason why MKV is the preferred format for ripped movies is that it has better subtitle and audio track support (ex. more than one audio track, whether it be two different languages or, say, 2.0 English and 5.1 English) than MP4 does. You might lose these features on any movies that have them if you convert them. If your movies don't use those features, or if the only subtitled movies that you have have the subtitles burned into the video, then you should be fine.
Thanks, I'll give it a shot Though most of my movies are dual-lang, I would try some of them to be put in a new container with single-lang
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Blade
BIade said:
Thanks, I'll give it a shot Though most of my movies are dual-lang, I would try some of them to be put in a new container with single-lang
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FYI, I just tested on a movie of mine, and my initial estimation was quite a bit off, so my mistake on that. It takes several minutes per GB, not 10-30 seconds (it can take 10-30 seconds for a 350MB, low-quality rip, just not for a full GB). So, we're talking about a batch process that will take the better part of a day to go through 500GB, but, still, that's not so bad (considering the sheer size), since you don't need to babysit it any. You might start a batch of the entire collection and let it go for a day or you might split it up and do, say, 200GB overnight one night, 200GB overnight the next night and so on, so as not to tax the system too much or make it unusable for work or play during the day.
VLC 2.1 has released
On the release page under mobile they say:
Partial port to WinRT, for Windows 8, 8.1 and WP8.
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Anyone here know, how to get this? I searched everywhere, but all i could get exept the win32-version is the source.tar.gz
Would love to test this
Or did I missunderstood the "winRT"? Because they do not say Windows RT....
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Blade
BIade said:
VLC 2.1 has released
On the release page under mobile they say:
Anyone here know, how to get this? I searched everywhere, but all i could get exept the win32-version is the source.tar.gz
Would love to test this
Or did I missunderstood the "winRT"? Because they do not say Windows RT....
Cheers
Blade
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WinRT is the API used for start apps. Windows RT is windows 8 running on ARM (so both contain winrt). You wouldn't be the first to mix the 2, nor the last, frankly microsoft shouldnt have given the 2 such similar names.
I'm guessing because they dont mention ARM or windows RT, its winrt on x86 only at this time.
Thank you soo much for your answer. I'm so happy that a well known member has given me the answer, and I'm so sad they we cannot profit from that vlc 2.1 on our arm
Greatefully
Blade

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