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[Q] Motorola Milestone or Motorola Defy

Hi Guys,
I've been reading the posts in the forum and I realized that, if anybody can help me with this dilemma, it's YOU guys !
I want to buy a new phone and I want it to be an Android Smartphone... Everything OK so far... I "window shopped" a bit and considering the limited options that are available in my country, I finally decided that the best options, price/performance wise, are the Motorola Milestone A853 and the Motorola Defy.
Now I've been reading about them for the past month, about the hardware, what are the advantages and disadvantages of both phones, I saw numerous reviews for both phones and read everything there is to read about the processors and GPU's in both phones but now I want to read a personal opinion on both phones, why should I choose one over the other and why...
I really hope that you guys can help me with this !
Now I imagine that some of you guys will say that none of them are that great because of the processor, or the Android version or the fact that none of them might be getting the Gingerbread update, so, If possible, I would appreciate if you could leave all of that aside and express your opinion related to these 2 phone as they are right now, with no updates or hacks and if possible, share YOUR experience with them as well.
Of course, you will be asking me what I want to use the phone for, well... I would like to... Ummm... use it as a ... phone, browse the web and be able play some 3D games (e.g.: Polarbit Games, Gameloft HD games, Quake etc.) without much lag (preferably with NO lag at all ).
Please HELP !!!

Defy is new. Milestone is pretty old.
Defy has 512mb ram
Milestone has 256mb ramb
Defy's processor is 200mhz faster .. and made by Texas Instruments.
Should be more economical on battery life as well.
Moreover, the Defy comes with a bigger battery. 1540 vs 1400.
Defy should be less laggy and more likely to get more android updates. Dont know about the community support though. Would advise you to go check in the Milestone android development forum and see how active those guys are. The support for that phone basically depends on them now.

Hello
I know, this topic is not so new but i wouldn't create the new one.
Can someone write more about those two phones? In march I gone get a new phone from the operator and I have to choose between Milestone and Defy. I know, Defy's newer and has a little bit better hardware but what about the future development? Here in Poland Defy's not so popular as the Milestone. BTW Defy's a little bit cheaper than Milestone in my operator What else? Milestone's getting Froyo in a few "days". Defy's still on eclair, and who knows how about the future...
The most important what I need is:
- smooth UI
- smooth games
- smooth web browsing
- big screen and good resolution (both the same)
- official updates and unofficial development
Please help!

hi i am stuck with the same dilemma i dont no which phone to get.

I bought milestone yesterday.U won't regret...it's a lot better than defy ,even with all the differences between defy and milestone,milestone is way cooler at looks than defy as a phone,as updates and gaming(because of the keyboard)

I think Milestone is better based on community support, its easy to find custom ROMs for what you need..

[Q] mileston sbf on droid 2 global phone??

Hey everyone,
first of all sorry for my bad english....
i'm near to buy a droid 2 global, and as a lot of people knows the D2G haven't unfortunately the 720P HD video recording ability... instead the european Milestone 2, that looks tecnically the same phone, same processor model(1000Mhz instead 1200Mhz) and camera, have this possibility.
In this site "and-developerscom/sbf" i have found a lot of SBF to restore some devices, and than the question is, could be possible flash a milestone 2 sbf on the D2G to allow it recording 720P?
If it's possible i know that probably the DG2 will lost the multiple networking ability....
thanks at all!!

Uhh.. The milestone 2 and the Droid2Global are completely different hardware. You'd more than likely just brick your brand new phone. There is no SBF for the Droid2Global yet, so you'd essentially be ruining your phone until someone releases one. Short answer: no, don't do it.

thanks, than before to modify my phone i will wait for a recovery sbf file, but why the milestone 2 and the D2G or the D2 have different hardware?? The cam is not the same? thanks

Why would you want to record in HD if the Droid 2 global records with DVD quality which is better. This is possible because it has a faster processor than the milestone 2. Overall is a better phone.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using XDA App

Garmin-Asus Nüvifone A50, update to froyo or gingerbread?

[email protected] I bought the android device nüvifone a50. It comes with eclair. I heared, that the joined-venture between garmin and asus is at the end. So, there`ll be no official rom-updates to gingerbread or so in the future. I think, this device is a very good one. And it would be great, if some of the great rom-cookers from this forum would create a custom rom based on an gingerbread-rom in german and english language.
I`ll not a rom cooker, but i have already rooted my device and i would learn more about rom-cooking, adb, busy-box pp.
Would anybody help me?
Best regards
kowalskie

kowalskie said:
[email protected] I bought the android device nüvifone a50. It comes with eclair. I heared, that the joined-venture between garmin and asus is at the end. So, there`ll be no official rom-updates to gingerbread or so in the future. I think, this device is a very good one. And it would be great, if some of the great rom-cookers from this forum would create a custom rom based on an gingerbread-rom in german and english language.
I`ll not a rom cooker, but i have already rooted my device and i would learn more about rom-cooking, adb, busy-box pp.
Would anybody help me?
Best regards
kowalskie
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Has nobody an idea??
regards

I would also love to see a Gingerbread ROM for the A50.
Is it possibel to use any of the other ROM's or does the phone need to have a Rom made specfically for it?

I'd also love to see Gingerbread or Froyo on this phone, is anyone going to make one?

hey guys sorry for interrupting!!! I just was passing looking for something else, garmin asus wont support any rom after 2.1 because the chip does not support this OS.
basically its 256 ROM, 256 RAM, 600 MHtz CPU, ARMv6
but you need ARMv7
btw, I would be happy to have it on mine too.

honestonline said:
hey guys sorry for interrupting!!! I just was passing looking for something else, garmin asus wont support any rom after 2.1 because the chip does not support this OS.
basically its 256 ROM, 256 RAM, 600 MHtz CPU, ARMv6
but you need ARMv7
btw, I would be happy to have it on mine too.
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Hi I 'M a new man here . i bought asus garmin a50 last week .i think it's costs-effective android phone . the hardware almost same as the htc legend,excpet the ram .256vs 387(right).so why htc legend could update to froyo ,a50 can't ???

The A50 (Garminfone) has the 600mhz ARMv6 msm7227. Same as HTC Aria and Legend. Froyo can definitely run on it with official manufacturer roms and custom roms (although it may not be *officially* supported by Google Android 2.2).
We just need someone to figure out the bootloader and cook a rom. I think there is little motivation to do this though, since it will almost certainly kill the Garmin GPS software, which is why most people bought this phone in the first place.
There is some talk on the Cyanogen rom forums about developing a techniques to load a custom rom and still keep the Garmin software, like Cyanogen does with Google Apps. I won't be holding my breath though...
Thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/5864-garminfone-a50/

Thanks sharky for this information - just hope I guess
Chas

i know it's not going to happen officially, but i hold out hope that someone smarter than me is working away at making froyo work for us

What I know is the upgraded os can run apps designed for lower os. This is fact in developing applications. for example app runs on 2.1 will run 2.3.
the dilemma is that asus garmin uses special lib for garmin application these libs need to be ported to the new os. and this is not easy to be done.
thanks

looks no hope yet?

Anyone came across this?
rahmani123.co.cc/?p=305
It's titled "Tutorial Upgrade/Update Asus A50 to Android 3.1".
Is it a joke?

happyspells said:
Anyone came across this?
rahmani123.co.cc/?p=305
It's titled "Tutorial Upgrade/Update Asus A50 to Android 3.1".
Is it a joke?
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I think its a joke, I bricked my previous phone with crap information and thats enough. never trust morons again.

say it like this
i asked them for 18 months for froyo and they were thinking about it.
send emails to eric chen at asus. we might get a shot at froyo.
every time i buy a non asus or garmin product i send a email to the appropriate company explaining why i am not buying their product.
this tickles them.
still both companies are still at it.
ask any eepad transformer prime owner why they bought a tablet without wifi or gps.
ask anyone who paid for a 12 month map package with garmin and then found 6 months later that they have to pay again for the same package to upgrade it.
yes only garmin would exclude upgrades from a 12 mth package.
fink x fink breeds superfink ...garmin x asus breeds garminasus.
bomb eric chen at asustek with emails until we get service.

I have a Garmin Assus A50 and i don't mind to delete all the existing app or function in the phone include the garmin navigation app. is that possible can upgrade to froyo or higher?

don't think it will ever happen
I don't think or believe will see anything higher then 2.1 on the garmin-asus phone, wish we would.

[Q] Change a motorola defy with omnia 7! It'll be a good choice?

Hello to all the forumers.
First of all ,excuse my English, but I'm Italian and I didn't spoke it since a long time.
I'm asking if it is a good choice to exchange a 1-month-old Motorola Defy (with android 2.1 eclair) for an Omnia 7 phone.
I like my Defy, but the camera is very crap.
Can you make a suggestion?
Thanks in advice!

No, because you can flash 2.2 and now CyanogenMod7 (android 2.3.3) on your Defy.
I have CM7 and it's unbelievable fast. I have a Quadrant Score of [email protected]
At the moment: Windows 7 is crap
But it look here
http://www.compare-cellphones.org/Samsung-Omnia-7-vs-Motorola-DEFY
(You can overclock the Defy's Processor, the Omnia is not able to do this)
Edit: On 2.2 and 2.3.3 the Camera-Quality is way better than on 2.1

But I know that Cyanogenmod 7 it's unstable for the defy.
But the first of the defects it's that I am Italian and I don't know if the phone will use my Language.
I use the voice call function, but the recognition on my Defy it's imprecise and I noticed that WP7 it's more smart on this function.
I don't want to stay by windows or android side, I want a functional phone without having to hacking it.
Thanks for the response..

enoch81 said:
But I know that Cyanogenmod 7 it's unstable for the defy.
But the first of the defects it's that I am Italian and I don't know if the phone will use my Language.
I use the voice call function, but the recognition on my Defy it's imprecise and I noticed that WP7 it's more smart on this function.
I don't want to stay by windows or android side, I want a functional phone without having to hacking it.
Thanks for the response..
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It is stable, but you must root it.. If you will not ok, take the Omnia but you won't be happy...Ask the person, if you can test it for 1 day.

but this page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
tell that it's unstable...
what a mess...

enoch81 said:
but this page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
tell that it's unstable...
what a mess...
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That's the only page for CM7 on Defy Where can you read that it is unstable?
The only things that don't work are aGPS and FM-Radio but they will be soon fixed.

Then, it's stable?
But I prefer to not modify the phone at all...

enoch81 said:
Then, it's stable?
But I prefer to not modify the phone at all...
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Then take the Omnia

[Q] ZTE Nubia Z5S a good choice?

im looking at ZTE Nubia Z5S (NX503A) got some nice specs for 400$ price tag.
5.0 inches, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, 2GB ram, 16GB, 13MP camera, andriod 4.2.2 etc..
i have never used android phone before so im hoping u guys can help me. i did some googling and didnt find any roms or any other modifications usually go with a andriod device.
i would like to know if this is a worth buying since this phone only available in china.

jasonx3 said:
im looking at ZTE Nubia Z5S (NX503A) got some nice specs for 400$ price tag.
5.0 inches, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, 2GB ram, 16GB, 13MP camera, andriod 4.2.2 etc..
i have never used android phone before so im hoping u guys can help me. i did some googling and didnt find any roms or any other modifications usually go with a andriod device.
i would like to know if this is a worth buying since this phone only available in china.
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Is this phone sold in country, or are you going to import it from china? Because if not, I would not recommend you a chinese phone. If it is defective you'll have a hard time returning it (if you can at all) etc.
Btw, if you come from iPhone, I strongly recommend you Google-listed devices (assume you live in the US, it would be HTC One, Nexus 5, SGS4) that come with the stock Android UI. They are updated as soon Google pushes out updates, which is closer what you experience on the iPhone.
Since chinese phones except for Huawei ones are rarely supported in XDA (they lack documentation, source etc) I would not recommend you a chinese phone if you want to try out new ROMs.
If you are ready to take the risks there you go. But as a first time Android user, no way I would go with that phone.
My recommendation for you is the Nexus 5. Hope this helps.

i have to import from china. im a symbian user im sorry i forgot to mentioned where i live. im from sri lanka and no play store available. no way to get a nexus 5. even if somehow managed get my hands on a nexus 5 it would costs me around 550-600$.

jasonx3 said:
i have to import from china. im a symbian user im sorry i forgot to mentioned where i live. im from sri lanka and no play store available. no way to get a nexus 5. even if somehow managed get my hands on a nexus 5 it would costs me around 550-600$.
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If it has to be a chinese phone then I suggest you the Xiaomi Mi3. Great User Interface (MIUI), great update support and best hardware for little money. Xiaomi is also highley popular, it is being regarded like Apple in china.

Go straight for Nubia, it has the best specs out there and far away the best price. I just order it btw.

jasonx3 said:
im looking at ZTE Nubia Z5S (NX503A) got some nice specs for 400$ price tag.
5.0 inches, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, 2GB ram, 16GB, 13MP camera, andriod 4.2.2 etc..
i have never used android phone before so im hoping u guys can help me. i did some googling and didnt find any roms or any other modifications usually go with a andriod device.
i would like to know if this is a worth buying since this phone only available in china.
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Good question, in deed I just got a Nubia z5s 3 weeks ago.
(I used to be a Moto supporter, but got disappointed by Moto's sales policy - however, CDMA users can hardly have so many choices as others. forget HTC, bad quality.)
Somebody mentioned Xiaomi, I don't think it's a good option. Nubia's hardware spec is almost the same as Xiaomi, but Xiaomi's shipment and sales policy will drive you crazy. You have to attend to a luck draw first, then could have a chance to buy one!
Regarding the experience, herein I only talk about my experience.
1. BATTERY:
From 7am to 10pm, medium use, about 75% is consumed.
2. DISPLAY:
Much better than MOTO X :laugh: , 1080p. Also, the color is not so cold as Samsung.
3. VOICE&MESSAGE:
Fairly clear, however the location of Mic is just under USB port. sometimes your finger could swipe it when picking up.
As CM user, very delighted to see vibrate setup in "settings", SMS also designed with popup
4. CAMERA
I didn't test too much. However, the respond speed is satisfying.
5. SOFTWARE
a. I have to acknowledge that the UI design is lower than my expectation, especially the icons. Styles in default apps and system UI are not actually unique. But most Androider will change the launcher at soonest, am I right? (ps. I really hate Samsung's UI and the screen density!)
b. Furthermore, the system compatibility...there's no surprise, also no fetal bugs.
c. Seemed Nubia team learnt a lot from CM team. They just released source CODE on their website.
d. It can be ROOTED easily.
e. Some local team has ported CWM RECOVERY on it. Nice job!
f. It's said MIUI by local team is on the way. Also, some guy is working on its AOSP now.
6. AUDIO
Sorry but I never play songs via cell phone. Somebody has idea?
7. DESIGNING
I spent almost one week to get familiar with the weight - it's too light
8. NETWORK
GSM/TD/CDMA, not sure if it can be used in Verizon network?
In conclusion, it didn't disappoint me. I'd be delighted to see more improvements or 3rd party's works on ROMs in near future.

Guys, is this phone suitable for the dutch network and.if flashed with multi language you can use dutch language?
Sent from my HUAWEI U9508 using Tapatalk

canizares said:
As CM user, very delighted to see vibrate setup in "settings", SMS also designed with popup
In conclusion, it didn't disappoint me. I'd be delighted to see more improvements or 3rd party's works on ROMs in near future.
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thank you. this answered lots of questions i had. specially custom roms.
and im assuming "As a CM user" u meant cyanogenmod? can u provide me with the links. i've been searching google, here and cyanogenmod site for sometime now and all i was able find was how to root it. its it was all in chinese
Guys, is this phone suitable for the dutch network and.if flashed with multi language you can use dutch language?
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Z5s supports following bands
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 2100MHz TD-SCDMA BAND 34/39
CDMA2000 1X EVDO: 800MHz
TD-SCDMA: 1900M/2000M
as for the netherland bands depends on which carrier you are using so check them with what frequency they use. below is the list of bands used in your country (source gsmarena)
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 800, 1800, 2600

Great news guy's! Get mine this weak bought at liaow ( great service they root it before shipping)
Grtz Ballgear
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how do you root the zte nubia z5s
Hi could you show me how you rooted the zte nubia z5s?
and how you installed clockworkmod on it
thanks

As far as i know there is no cwm for it ( not yet)
To root it search for vroot I
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ballgear said:
As far as i know there is no cwm for it ( not yet)
To root it search for vroot I
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how is your experience?
and ZTE just released upgraded Z5sn 32GB model

Hey Jasonx3
Its a great phone i think the hardware is a good mix Meizu/Xiaomi
The software/firmware could be beter but thats something Zte is working on, had the phone for a day & there was already a update available ota
The n version is i think the best model of the nubia $600,- ( liaow.com) Must say im very happy with it
Grtz Ballgear
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Hi there,
I just bought mine . But I can't put a CWM recovery into it Does anybody have any ideas...?
Thank you very much!!!!

Ssamf said:
Hi there,
I just bought mine . But I can't put a CWM recovery into it Does anybody have any ideas...?
Thank you very much!!!!
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Hi,
Do you like it? Will you let us know about your experience with the phone? Things like battery usage, performance, camera, gps speed etc etc
Thanks!

Tinus81 said:
Hi,
Do you like it? Will you let us know about your experience with the phone? Things like battery usage, performance, camera, gps speed etc etc
Thanks!
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Oh, I do like it I just don't have any idea how to root it ....
As soon as I found it out I will let you know!

Ssamf said:
Oh, I do like it I just don't have any idea how to root it ....
As soon as I found it out I will let you know!
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Look for Vroot ore htcui.com, cwm recovery is also available...
Like this phone very much!
Grtz Ballgear

ballgear said:
Look for Vroot ore htcui.com, cwm recovery is also available...
Like this phone very much!
Grtz Ballgear
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And do you have Play Store installed?

im still waiting for my phone to arrive, but i have seen CWM and Rooting on official Nubia forums. everything is in Chinese. if someone can translate and post here.

Google play works just install gapps 4.2.2 ( you need google framework )
For the Chinese forums use google translate thats how it works 4 me !
The kingnubia rom is recommended it got it all in 1 rom !
Grtzz