I send a email to ask htc. They inform me that Desire HD is not using Gorilla Glass.
Here is the letter.
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Does everyone but me fail to realise that they would have advertised the fact, if the DHD was infact using gorilla glass?
ivolol said:
Does everyone but me fail to realise that they would have advertised the fact, if the DHD was infact using gorilla glass?
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this!
i'm sure it would have been advertised...
i don't really get the big deal with gorilla glass, my cowon s9 has it and the screen still scratches, the S9 is so light tho that if you drop it the glass wont break anyway
also, why are people dropping their phones ?
but im weird id sell my phone the moment it gets a tiny scratch on it like i did with my legend
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also, why are people dropping their phones ?
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For the fun of it, you know, testing that it is drop proof. .
It's always good to know that if you accidently drop your phone, well them people thought it would happen and put a gorilla glass for you !
I've been using mine around 6 weeks without a shield and the screen is still in pristine condition, mind you I don't put it in my pocket with other stuff in there or anywhere it might get damaged.
Take care of it and it seems you won't get a mark on it.
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Take care of it and it seems you won't get a mark on it.
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Wise words MrGarak. My old Hero still looks close to brand-new, no added protection, 14 months on.
Then why corning is listing it in their website in the featured products section ??
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
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For the fun of it, you know, testing that it is drop proof. .
It's always good to know that if you accidently drop your phone, well them people thought it would happen and put a gorilla glass for you !
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Believe me, if you accidentally drop your phone, you'll know if the display has broken or not .
I've dropped once, it just slipped of my hand while rushing to work.... and landed HEAVILY on the sides... bouncing thrice before it stop (bounced on the sides). Luckily I had TPU case on it, life saver
Of course if you drop it on a rock with the glass on the bottom, I'm pretty sure that gorilla or jurassic glass might not help much
Good find and good news for us since apparently our phone is using a "better" type of glass for our screens. I'd still won't drop it though (just saying)
You say that but on the companies that makes Gorilla glass it does say that the Desire HD has it. I took some keys to my desire HD and no scratches.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
from my experience
HTC support staffs are not that knowledgeable about their product
they most rely on whatever they post on their own website
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You say that but on the companies that makes Gorilla glass it does say that the Desire HD has it. I took some keys to my desire HD and no scratches.
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Yeah, I'm gonna go with this, more official than some rep who's most likely clueless. Still, not letting my keys near the screen! No way!
Ive had mine for a few months and not one scratch,
untill yesterday, when it was in my pocket(on its own in a case, no screen protector though)...nice scratch across top which can be seen with the screen on, and can be felt quite obviously with a finger nail.
easy to say I was gutted. I've looked after this phone like it was a living breathing thing, never dropping it or anything, and then it scratches like that?
hohum.
I'd trust the creators of the Gorilla Glass over HTC support.
I've had mine since November and i don't have one scratch on the screen.
I've dropped my phone from insane heights, on my phone you can see metal grazed off and silver, but the glass looks brand new and not one single scratch!
Confirmed or not, DHD glass proved to be quite resistant.
Personaly, I've let my DHD with my glasses, my car keys, USB Flash keys, or just in my laptop case with plenty of cables, without getting *any* traces on it. This, without any protection...
Someone should really change the name of this thread
desire hd scratch
i drooped mine with the screen down and the only scratch is on the aluminium body where is the small led .i ve got no protection for screen yet and if i compare with my old omnia 2 wich it has a plastic screen
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Is it just me or is buying a screen protector for a phone that has already has Gorilla Glass just a marketing ploy for company's to make $$$ from us? I mean unless
A) You work outdoors and need glare protection
B) You work somewhere where you need privacy protection
C) You work somewhere where your phone would be subjected to circumstances where its likely to get DEEP scratches ie. Construction
Whats the real point of the protector other then dampening sensitivity and attracting screen prints. Am I missing something? Chime in.
id love to show you why having a screen protector is a good thing. now i dont fit into your a, b and c choices. i use my phone casually everyday.
i had an iphone4 before my inspire. well one day while i was in my car the phone was on my lap. while moving, the phone fell between the seats. stupid me not thinking, i moved my seats to try and get it out. while moving it i heard a very loud scratch and pop. my heart dropped lol. the screen protector saved my phone. not a scratch was on the screen.
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I dropped my phone on asphalt the other day, and there was a nasty scratch on the screen protector and I thought that for sure the screen itself was scratched as well, but lo and behold, after peeling it off not a thing!
It's worth the peace of mind.
where has it been stated that the Inspire has Gorilla glass?
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
It states the Inspire 4G and Desire HD...I dont think the other two that post realize that I was refering to phones that have Gorilla glass. If you have a iPhone I cant help you there...
Iphone 4 has gorilla glass
Does it? Corning doesn't state iPhone or even apple on their website.
The only reason I brought this up is because I had a case-mate anti-glare protector on my screen. I finally got annoyed last night with the washed out colors and took it off and man...its been a day and night difference. The phones so much more responsive. I started researching the display and found out that it has the Gorilla Glass.
For what it's worth on this matter, I pay $4 for phone ins. if I get a scratch I cant live with, well...I'll turn it in as an ins. claim
This is a great topic. I wish there was more info from the manufacturers about this. I want to protect my phone but if the GGlass is sufficient I would much rather not get the frigin fingerprints all over my screen cover. Any more opinions about this, folks?
I'm pretty much the same as the rest - I had a protector on until I learned it had Gorillas Glass, then I took it off. The phone is MUCH more enjoyable without. Plus, I have the insurance as well. I might as well enjoy my phone the way it was made to be enjoyed (same reason I've decided to leave the Commuter case off it as well).
I do have a commuter case, but I stopped using the protectors and I love looking at my display now. Its gorgeous! I have insurance as well, I guess time will tell if gorilla glass can stand up to its name.
quite dissapointed. my phone got nicked very easily with this, "Gorilla Glass." oh well, 2 months with one tiny scratch is no big deal. if it was deep enough I would just return it
Everything I've seen the Inspire does NOT have Gorilla Glass. I asked on HTC's Facebook page and they said it was made of strong durable glass. I asked specifically if it had Gorilla Glass and they said no.
Anyone willing to test it with there's and post a video?
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I read that it has Gorilla Glass at Corning's website. However, I am not going to test it. I use an Invisible Shield that I scored for free (it's for the Thunderbolt and fits almost perfectly). I don't notice the imperfection because I have the OtterBox Defender. I guess it is a little bit easier to press stuff without the screen protector, but I had 4 resistive touchscreens until this device brought me a capacitive. If you think the screen protector makes a night and day difference coming from resistive with a screen protector to capacitive with a screen protector...
I don't understand why people keep doubting that it has Gorilla Glass...Corning posted it on their official devices list.
Yeah, I just don't get that either. HTC has apparently never admitted that any of their phones has Gorilla Glass. Why should this be different? I don't doubt Corning -- they're the ones who make the stuff, for goodness sake.
My theory? I think HTC doesn't want to admit it because they think it'll make people think they can do all kinds of stupid things with their phones. HTC thinks people will blame them when phones start breaking and people go "But you told me it had Gorilla Glass!" as if Gorilla Glass means indestructible.
Gorilla Glass =/= Titanium
HTC might not be mentioning that is uses Gorilla Glass because of the iPhone 4 glass breakage issues reported in the press last year.
http://mashable.com/2010/10/13/iphone-4-glass/
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HTC might not be mentioning that is uses Gorilla Glass because of the iPhone 4 glass breakage issues reported in the press last year.
http://mashable.com/2010/10/13/iphone-4-glass/
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And here's where the public is misled by the media manipulation of statistics and headlines on everything from smoking to gun ownership.
SquareTrade actually found that 3.9% of iPhone 4s suffered broken glass in the first four months, in contrast to 2.1% with the iPhone 3GS. Sounds a lot less dramatic doesn’t it?
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For those of you who are math challenged, the change from 2.1 to 3.9 is an 85% difference, not surprising given that the iPhone 4 has 2 sides with glass, as opposed to just one, therefore one could argue there's been an actual decrease given that there's been a 100% increase in the probability. But you're still dealing with single-digit percentages.
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Yes I totally agree. That's why I said "reported in the press". I had an iPhone 4 up until a couple of weeks ago (gave it to my wife) and haven't had a lick of problems with any glass issues. And I've dropped it a few times on pavement from about 3 feet up (it was in a Speck PixelSkin HD case which isn't a particularly robust case).
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I'm going to assume that is not directed at me.
Hi All,
I thought the One S was meant to be impossible to mark and the screen is gorilla glass that is impossible to scratch.
Well after two weeks use I have lots of small chips along the sharp edge at the top, presumably from keys and coins in my pocket, and some hairline scratches on the screen.
Very disappointed about this, clearly the marketing is a lie. Does anyone else have this problem?
Thanks
skiba said:
Hi All,
I thought the One S was meant to be impossible to mark and the screen is gorilla glass that is impossible to scratch.
Well after two weeks use I have lots of small chips along the sharp edge at the top, presumably from keys and coins in my pocket, and some hairline scratches on the screen.
Very disappointed about this, clearly the marketing is a lie. Does anyone else have this problem?
Thanks
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It's not impossible to scratch, It is just hard to scratch it.
Try not to put your phone in the same pocket you put your keys and coins in.
Thanks for the advice, didn't think of that...
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Thanks for the advice, didn't think of that...
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Haha.
Welcome to One S forums You are not alone. It's a common issue. Search the general section about chipping and you would find a lot us in the same boat.
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This phone is really the first phone I've bought a case and screen protector and actually kept it on.
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Yeah !! All my phones have cases and screen protectors, No matter how tough these phones are, Its NOT impossible to scratch or chip, Its just very difficult.
They are scratch resistant, not scratch proof.
I have the same problem. In a place where the most touching, there was a spot similar to the attrition. I believe in One S which has no gorilla glass 2. Glass can be scratched by the finger.
My HD2 2 years of use, still in perfect condition.
The chipping issue has been resolved now though they changed the process of mapping them I bought my one s two weeks after it came out and also bought a pouch and taken good caste of it
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Sorry to say that chipping and scratching of the HOS Black Edition is still there... I've finally switched to Grey Edition after up to 3 faulty Black ones...
Veyiron said:
I have the same problem. In a place where the most touching, there was a spot similar to the attrition. I believe in One S which has no gorilla glass 2. Glass can be scratched by the finger.
My HD2 2 years of use, still in perfect condition.
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Belief can be a powerful thing. Perhaps you could tell HTC that they have it wrong?
I think expecting a phone not to scratch is like expecting your brand new car no to get scratches. Not possible. We've given up that idea with cars and should really understand that it's the same way with phones. If you plan on using it and care about scratches put a screen protector and cover on it.
OP's mistake was somehow assuming that his phone is invincible. HTC surely never said anything about it being impervious to any damage. That kind of thinking is just silly.
They fortify the phones the best they can, and in this case, the metal housing IS pretty sturdy. That being said, this thing can bust through silicone cases. I've dropped mine twice, and both times, the top left and bottom of the phone literally punctured through the silicone case and got scratched/scuffed. No biggie, though.
Really?...you're storing your $600 computer in your pocket with coins and keys and then complaining it scratches? I've never used any sort of case or protector..just keep it alone in my pocket and have no scratches on any of my last 3 phones. Do you keep your laptop rattling around in your trunk with a loose lugwrench and case of soda cans?
My Golden Rule: Left pocket is only for the cellphone. Right pocket for keys and coins.
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My Golden Rule: Left pocket is only for the cellphone. Right pocket for keys and coins.
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And the screen facing my leg.
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And the screen facing my leg.
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jajaja yes! To prevent something from hitting the screen!
I definitely advise against keeping any phone in the same pocket as your keys! I use my front pockets exclusively, a thin wallet and my keys (and make sure I get rid of keys I don't need instead of carrying around a keychain that looks like it belongs to a janitor) and the phone by itself on the other front pocket.
No cell phone is indestructible! Take care of it well, it's a technological marvel, don't take it for granted!
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My Golden Rule: Left pocket is only for the cellphone. Right pocket for keys and coins.
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Preach it! Exactly how I have my setup. And the cellphone upside down! (I guess it's just easier to pull it out of the pocket that way).
I quit the coinage habit.... leave your pennies in the tip jar. One dedicated pocket for the device and nothing else.
I hate cases and protectors like a disease they are just dumb but this thing is so damn slippery I'm thinking about putting some sort of rubber film on the back. Yet to drop this thing but I don't drop my children either
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I assume everyone would have the same problem as OP if their phone was in the pocket alongside keys and coins without a protective case and.
As some have said here already, keeping all the stuff in one pocket and your phone in another should do wonders.
Mines only a week old and already you can see the silver showing through around the usb port.
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A friend of a friend cracked his phone already.
It dropped out of his pocket when he sat down at a table. Fell about 2 feet onto a cement floor. Seems to have hit the corner.
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What sucks even more.. is that his case for his phone arrived a few hours later.
Read more on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS7/comments/48j1kl/man_down/
I'm the poor soul who cracked his phone. I sadly didn't feel it sliding until it was too late. I'm now waiting to see what T-Mobile can do since the phone just freaking shipped for some.
SniperXX said:
I'm the poor soul who cracked his phone. I sadly didn't feel it sliding until it was too late. I'm now waiting to see what T-Mobile can do since the phone just freaking shipped for some.
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Damn Homie, hold this thumbs up!
you can claim you received the phone like this LOl scumbag move, but hey wouldn't hurt to try
Didn't even take the sticker off yet..
Its sad to see how sawft this phone is....
Its on the back a case would cover it wouldn't bother me much unless I wanted a clear case if it costs too much its livable
EvanWasHere said:
A friend of a friend cracked his phone already.
It dropped out of his pocket when he sat down at a table. Fell about 2 feet onto a cement floor. Seems to have hit the corner.
What sucks even more.. is that his case for his phone arrived a few hours later.
Read more on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS7/comments/48j1kl/man_down/
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How to remove back glass put the device on the Hot plate for
3 minutes under 140 °F.
Here is parts list
GH81-13556A A/S TAPE-BACK_GLASS
GH81-13555A A/S TAPE-BACK_GLASS_ISLAND
GH02-12464A TAPE DOUBLE FACE-REAR_ISLAND
GH8211498C A/S ASSYBACK GLASS_LA_ZD
Moral of the story don't buy a Samsung doh. Lol sorry Samsung police had to take a joke. That royally socks!!
That sux. Great promo ad for Samsung's durability lol!
I didn't know these Samsungs crack so easily after seeing some video drop tests where the S6 Edge did pretty good. I guess it depends where they hit. Something about a phone sandwiched between 2 sides of glass makes me wonder though.
T-Mobile is back ordered and Assurant wont have stock for a few weeks. The two Samsung reps weren't much help. They didn't know what the cost would be or how long they'd need it.
Make sure you keep these phones in a case, lol.
Ouch, just stick it in a case and never take it out, and pretend its not waterproof anymore.
Its like holding a stick of butter.
Sign up for Samsunt's insurance plan:
http://www.samsung.com/us/owners/protection-plus/
Most of the credit cards include complementary accidental damage protection insurance by default. https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/cre...ase-protection-credit-cards-cover-belongings/
I guess gorilla glass 5 is no stronger the the 1st 4. Probably the same glass they just add a number every new phone cycle. I think they all scratch at 9h anyway and obviously a drop is outta the question
DAMN SON!
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Sign up for Samsunt's insurance plan:
http://www.samsung.com/us/owners/protection-plus/
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Thanks for the info! There doing what Apple has been
GoogleFan said:
I guess gorilla glass 5 is no stronger the the 1st 4. Probably the same glass they just add a number every new phone cycle. I think they all scratch at 9h anyway and obviously a drop is outta the question
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Has Gorilla Glass 5 even been released yet? If so, Corning doesn't know it.
I wasn't going to use a case. I just changed my mind.
GoogleFan said:
I guess gorilla glass 5 is no stronger the the 1st 4. Probably the same glass they just add a number every new phone cycle. I think they all scratch at 9h anyway and obviously a drop is outta the question
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Gorilla glass 4 not 5.
Also gorilla glass can't make glass into metal, it can only harden it a bit (usually against scratches) dropping it on concrete still will shatter it (incidentally it would have scratched and bent metal most likely).
I don't like glass on the backs of phones, but it's better then metal for some things (wireless charging). I prefer high quality plastic but the market says it's not 'premium' enough, so we get glass or metal.
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Hey guys, I know the phone has only been released a week ago, but has anyone started to see any scuff marks on their phone? Interested to see for those who are rocking their phone naked if they've managed to get any scuff or scratch marks on the rear glass or screen yet?
Huey85 said:
Hey guys, I know the phone has only been released a week ago, but has anyone started to see any scuff marks on their phone? Interested to see for those who are rocking their phone naked if they've managed to get any scuff or scratch marks on the rear glass or screen yet?
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It's not easy to scuff glass... I have a nearly 6 months old galaxy note 5 (same glass construction as the s7) that's still perfect.
I kept the plastic on the front and back of my phone and my girlfriends phone until we got home. Put a front screen protector on both immediately.
Kept the plastic on the back of my phone until my case came in. No scratches on mine.
My girlfriend apparently doesn't care about her phone scratching as much...But will nag me to death if I forget to wipe off the bathroom sink smh...
She took the plastic off the back of her phone after it started peeling, still no case (Because she can't decide on one), and her front screen protector is peeling up already. No scratches yet but if anyone's going to scratch it....will be her.
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My girlfriend apparently doesn't care about her phone scratching as much...But will nag me to death if I forget to wipe off the bathroom sink smh...
She took the plastic off the back of her phone after it started peeling, still no case (Because she can't decide on one), and her front screen protector is peeling up already. No scratches yet but if anyone's going to scratch it....will be her.
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So many ways I want to respond to this...
1st: Murphy's Law dictates that hers will remain in perfect shape with no protection, and yours will be scratched all over.
2nd: Perhaps your girlfriend is trying to suggest that she prefers things naked?
garyd9 said:
So many ways I want to respond to this...
1st: Murphy's Law dictates that hers will remain in perfect shape with no protection, and yours will be scratched all over.
2nd: Perhaps your girlfriend is trying to suggest that she prefers things naked?
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Murphy's Law is killing me lately... Used Samsung Pay very first time on an old drive through car wash then it rains 3 days in a row.
I bet my dog will end up chewing on my phone and leave hers alone. Even Best Buy knows dogs are bad news for cell phones. Their mobile protection has a Beagle right on the front...I have 2 beagles:
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I'll take a naked girlfriend over a naked phone all day
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I'll take a naked girlfriend over a naked phone all day
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Wow. I need to read posts more carefully. I scanned through your post and saw the "I'll take a naked girlfriend..." comment directly below a picture of a dog... :laugh:
Please tell me that your dog isn't named Murphy.
Huey85 said:
Hey guys, I know the phone has only been released a week ago, but has anyone started to see any scuff marks on their phone? Interested to see for those who are rocking their phone naked if they've managed to get any scuff or scratch marks on the rear glass or screen yet?
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Had mine for three days and have a light scratch on the screen and a small nick on the back. I never put covers on my phones so I take the chance. I am careful with them but they all get marked up a little bit at some point.
Huey85 said:
Hey guys, I know the phone has only been released a week ago, but has anyone started to see any scuff marks on their phone? Interested to see for those who are rocking their phone naked if they've managed to get any scuff or scratch marks on the rear glass or screen yet?
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So far mine has been doing pretty well. I've dropped a few times on various surfaces with no scratches to the screen or back. I did manage to get a small ding in the corner where it landed on a concrete patio, but that is on the metal frame. The glass is still pristine. I've been quite impressed actually.
Thanks for the reply so far guys. I've been watching reviews and durability tests on YouTube and it looks like the screen can take a good beating and still come out perfectly fine. The back glass on the other hand, people seem to be finding that it is scuffing and scratching up a lot easier than the screen. I know that the specs say gorilla glass 4 on the front and back but I'm curious to know why the back glass isn't fairing as well.
Hi,
I have been using the 7 pro since the day it launched. Out of nowhere, last week, I saw a blackish patch on the left side of my display. One week later, it is spreading like a virus and taking more area of the screen. Posting pictures here. Any idea what may have caused this.
I reached out to Google, and they are sending in a replacement. I was just wondering if someone else came across such a problem
Thank you
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Could that be caused by dirt or debris getting up in there? That seems a little more significant than maybe a group of dead pixels. Regardless to me it seems pretty serious and not something that a soft reset would fix.
Looks like Purity, the black oil/cancer alien virus from the X-Files
Pretty sure I've seen this on someone else's device but don't recall if the cause was discovered.
That is caused by a break in the internal LCD structure. It can happen from a drop - especially with a device having curved glass! The curve might put the internal LCD at bigger risk of breaking depending on the overall display construction (both internal and external).
I'm more surprised by this happening without the exterior glass breaking or cracking at all. I guess the new Gorilla Glass Victus is stronger than I had anticipated. Perhaps the Pixel 7 series phones really got the Gorilla Glass Victus 2 glass (although it says that it just got "Gorilla Glass Victus" on the Google Store page). I say this because the Pixel 6 series of phones had the same glass, however, could very easily gather visible scratches (for example, my jeans could leave a visible scuff LOL). But my P7P hasn't gotten any visible scuffs or scratches at all yet - which has left me wondering what was changed in its supposedly identical glass sides.
chetly968 said:
Could that be caused by dirt or debris getting up in there? That seems a little more significant than maybe a group of dead pixels. Regardless to me it seems pretty serious and not something that a soft reset would fix.
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I do not think that could be the cause of that
NippleSauce said:
That is caused by a break in the internal LCD structure. It can happen from a drop - especially with a device having curved glass! The curve might put the internal LCD at bigger risk of breaking depending on the overall display construction (both internal and external).
I'm more surprised by this happening without the exterior glass breaking or cracking at all. I guess the new Gorilla Glass Victus is stronger than I had anticipated. Perhaps the Pixel 7 series phones really got the Gorilla Glass Victus 2 glass (although it says that it just got "Gorilla Glass Victus" on the Google Store page). I say this because the Pixel 6 series of phones had the same glass, however, could very easily gather visible scratches (for example, my jeans could leave a visible scuff LOL). But my P7P hasn't gotten any visible scuffs or scratches at all yet - which has left me wondering what was changed in its supposedly identical glass sides.
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Sounds like it. Cannot wait for the replacement to come in. and this post tells me I should make sure I always have a case on with a good screen protector I guess
Beware they're going to charge you for a broken screen so prepare for that.
roddem said:
Sounds like it. Cannot wait for the replacement to come in. and this post tells me I should make sure I always have a case on with a good screen protector I guess
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Best of luck with the replacement device! But overall, it just seems like you need to be extra careful with modern technology nowadays. Companies out there seems to be building stuff that is easier to break or degrades faster in order for them to stay more profitable over time =/.
I miss the days where the companies used to compete to see who could build the device that lasted the longest...especially considering the fact that I never use screen protectors or cases on my phones and so one drop would cost me an arm, a leg and a kidney...haha
Yeah I see it
I got the replacement device. And they said if there is no physical damage outside, there will be no charge. There is not any damage, and honestly it did not fell as well in the last one month. Just once when I got the device. and nothing happened that time.