I called Viewsonic twice today, so here's my brain dump.
- This update is supposed to be released on Monday the 22nd.
- Allegedly the update will make Wifi more stable, will fix sd mounting issues (not exactly sure what that means yet), the TnT UI will be more smooth, TZ is fixed plus other bug fixes. I asked about the 90 degree accelerometer issue but no news on whether that's fixed. Also no news on whether Angry Birds will work OOTB with this update. Lastly, they will add an AppStore care of PocketGear, I believe. Flash will NOT be included with this Monday update, that will not happen until mid/EO December.
- This fix is OTA (over-the-air) only, and it will probably only work on unmodded TnT firmware. I know that there's a OTA service that runs constantly on stock , and I purposely ripped that out of TnT Lite. And the zPad and cm6.1 mods don't have that service running either, so don't expect to get this update automagically if you are running one of our mods. I have asked for an offline update given that WiFi is one of the things they are fixing, but I don't think that's going to happen. Hopefully I am proved wrong.
- Once I get the update myself , I will wrap it up into a new TnT Lite 2.00 update shortly thereafter. Probably give me at least a day to do that and test it.
- I will also create a vanilla restore package based on this image. That will actually be the first thing I will create because I'll need that before I can create TnT Lite 2.00.
Hope this information helps clear up any lingering questions.
roebeet said:
I called Viewsonic twice today, so here's my brain dump.
- This update is supposed to be released on Monday the 22nd.
- Allegedly the update will make Wifi more stable, will fix sd mounting issues (not exactly sure what that means yet), the TnT UI will be more smooth, TZ is fixed plus other bug fixes. I asked about the 90 degree accelerometer issue but no news on whether that's fixed. Also no news on whether Angry Birds will work OOTB with this update. Lastly, they will add an AppStore care of PocketGear, I believe. Flash will NOT be included with this Monday update, that will not happen until mid/EO December.
- This fix is OTA (over-the-air) only, and it will probably only work on unmodded TnT firmware. I know that there's a OTA service that runs constantly on stock , and I purposely ripped that out of TnT Lite. And the zPad and cm6.1 mods don't have that service running either, so don't expect to get this update automagically if you are running one of our mods. I have asked for an offline update given that WiFi is one of the things they are fixing, but I don't think that's going to happen. Hopefully I am proved wrong.
- Once I get the update myself , I will wrap it up into a new TnT Lite 2.00 update shortly thereafter. Probably give me at least a day to do that and test it.
- I will also create a vanilla restore package based on this image. That will actually be the first thing I will create because I'll need that before I can create TnT Lite 2.00.
Hope this information helps clear up any lingering questions.
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Good work, as usual. I reverted back to stock in anticipation of the up to see what difference it would make. Let me know if you need me to pull something off of it.
Wonder how many here remember the roots of the term, "brain-dump," in the tech industry.
VS are shooting themselves in the foot if they do not do not offer this as a download.
Even a strict company like VZW offers a download option for updates for connectivity reasons.
Hope they do the logical thing.
It's now 11/22/2010 05:20 AM CST.
Checking for update before I go to work, still nothing. I uninstalled any app killers I had, just to make sure a needed process wasn't being killed.
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App Store
Please be advised that a software update is now available that provides access to an Apps Store directly from your G Tablet. Owners of the G Tablet will receive an automatic notice of the new software upgrade. Users can then simply click on the Apps Store icon from their G Tablet to gain access to 1,000's of leading Android apps. (Please note that the automatic notification requires that the G Tablet has WiFi Internet access upon power-on.)
Adobe Flash Support
The Viewsonic G Tablet hardware and firmware provides full support for the Adobe Flash Player built into the unit. At the time that the G Tablet was manufactured, the Adobe Player application was not available for this product. We anticipate that a version of the Adobe Flash Player Application will be available by December 19, 2010. Owners of the G Tablet will receive an automatic notice that the plug-in is available for download to further expand their web access and entertainment. (Please note that the automatic notification requires that the G Tablet has WiFi Internet access upon power-on.)
anyone get the appstore update?
None here to report
(no mods)
If this is an OTA update, most likely none of us with mods will get it -- it's probably getting pushed down via the TnT OTA service. They might push down an update.zip and then do a reboot into recovery to run it. If that's the case, we might be able to intercept the update. Maybe.
EDIT: I called CS (I love 'em, they are a great bunch to talk to, in all seriousness). Sounds like the update is ready to go and it sounds like it's an OTA update. Lots of bug fixes as well as their App Store, which sounds like a web site of some kind. It may have been pulled at the last minute but should show up this weekend or early next week.
It also sounds like the new shipments to Staples are part of the reason for getting this out so I hope that means they will work overtime to get this out ASAP. We will see.
Ignoring the terrible condition at launch, the update came pretty quickly. Hopefully we'll see more updates.
No update here and I registered my unit right after I got it.
I wonder if there is anything we have to do to get the update?
Update process?
IS there anything that an enduser needs to do to recieve the update? If it's OTA does it ask before it install that update? I keep checking their website but they don't seem to view it as a communication tool. Those poor CS people are about to get swamped I guess
roebeet said:
If this is an OTA update, most likely none of us with mods will get it -- it's probably getting pushed down via the TnT OTA service. They might push down an update.zip and then do a reboot into recovery to run it. If that's the case, we might be able to intercept the update. Maybe.
EDIT: I called CS (I love 'em, they are a great bunch to talk to, in all seriousness). Sounds like the update is ready to go and it sounds like it's an OTA update. Lots of bug fixes as well as their App Store, which sounds like a web site of some kind. It may have been pulled at the last minute but should show up this weekend or early next week.
It also sounds like the new shipments to Staples are part of the reason for getting this out so I hope that means they will work overtime to get this out ASAP. We will see.
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The site is a portal for pocketgear and apps linked there for download. Apparently all "compatible" with tablets. Since a near-full market now works for the Gtablet with the framework data wipe trick, I will wait for you or Roth to post some magic from the official update
catttman said:
App Store
Please be advised that a software update is now available that provides access to an Apps Store directly from your G Tablet. Owners of the G Tablet will receive an automatic notice of the new software upgrade. Users can then simply click on the Apps Store icon from their G Tablet to gain access to 1,000's of leading Android apps. (Please note that the automatic notification requires that the G Tablet has WiFi Internet access upon power-on.)
Adobe Flash Support
The Viewsonic G Tablet hardware and firmware provides full support for the Adobe Flash Player built into the unit. At the time that the G Tablet was manufactured, the Adobe Player application was not available for this product. We anticipate that a version of the Adobe Flash Player Application will be available by December 19, 2010. Owners of the G Tablet will receive an automatic notice that the plug-in is available for download to further expand their web access and entertainment. (Please note that the automatic notification requires that the G Tablet has WiFi Internet access upon power-on.)
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Where did this information come from? There's no reference to it on their support site and if you go to pocketgear.com it's still not a device you can add.
[ QUOTE=mmracing;9315687]No update here and I registered my unit right after I got it.
I wonder if there is anything we have to do to get the update?[/QUOTE]
I got my update Thursday night. My tablet posted a notification that I had an update available, I clicked on it and it downlozded. It seems to have fixed the clock loosing time, their market app now works, the update icon was changed, wifi seems to be more stable and reliable. They also seem to have addressed the storage card issues, but it still does not recognize my microsd card installed. It sees it but I haven't found a way to access it yet.
Downside: they screwed up the default home page. The three windows are now blank waiting for data. I have not been able to add or change any thing on this screen.
I am running stock tablet no mods.
flash installed from link posted here
launcher pro
adobe reader
kindel app
I don't have any mods on mine either. I have the same software installed as you except I have not installed Flash.
Still nothing on the update here... no notification or anything. I sure hope my registration went through. I saw where somone said they got an email after registering, I did not receive an email.
mmracing said:
I don't have any mods on mine either. I have the same software installed as you except I have not installed Flash.
Still nothing on the update here... no notification or anything. I sure hope my registration went through. I saw where somone said they got an email after registering, I did not receive an email.
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I did not get an email either. This may be a stupid question but did you try to click on the update icon?
rushless said:
The site is a portal for pocketgear and apps linked there for download. Apparently all "compatible" with tablets. Since a near-full market now works for the Gtablet with the framework data wipe trick, I will wait for you or Roth to post some magic from the official update
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That's my goal - I want the update just so I can mod it into TnT Lite 2.00. Right now I have a vanilla config on my device and I'm waiting it out.
I have a feeling that we won't see the update until Monday, but I hope that I'm wrong.
guitar geek said:
I got my update Thursday night. My tablet posted a notification that I had an update available, I clicked on it and it downlozded. It seems to have fixed the clock loosing time, their market app now works, the update icon was changed, wifi seems to be more stable and reliable. They also seem to have addressed the storage card issues, but it still does not recognize my microsd card installed. It sees it but I haven't found a way to access it yet.
Downside: they screwed up the default home page. The three windows are now blank waiting for data. I have not been able to add or change any thing on this screen.
I am running stock tablet no mods.
flash installed from link posted here
launcher pro
adobe reader
kindel app
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They told me that there was a UAT period where the CS reps got the update on their test devices. Perhaps they don't have an actual UAT side and they added it to their production infrastructure instead which would have allowed a few consumers to get the update? That's my guess.
Can you check your kernel version? I'm curious if they sent a new one. Also, do you have an update.zip in the root of your /sdcard and, if so, can you post that? That could be the actual update that they sent down.
guitar geek said:
I did not get an email either. This may be a stupid question but did you try to click on the update icon?
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It you are talking about the "Tap UI Network Updater" then yes I have and it says it us up to date. Is there another place that has an update icon?
Thanks for the help!
mmracing said:
It you are talking about the "Tap UI Network Updater" then yes I have and it says it us up to date. Is there another place that has an update icon?
Thanks for the help!
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Yes, that is the icon to update. Just got off the phone with support. The update has been pulled until 11/22. Allegedly there were other things to be included and they wanted to release it all at once, that's what I was told anyway.
jmfrost said:
Yes, that is the icon to update. Just got off the phone with support. The update has been pulled until 11/22. Allegedly there were other things to be included and they wanted to release it all at once, that's what I was told anyway.
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Bad decision on their part - better to have an interim update now and another early next, unless there's a nasty bug in the interim build.
A lot of shoppers will be out this weekend and they really need that firmware update NOW.
EDIT: Added a new thread - I felt this was important enough that it was warranted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846093
jmfrost said:
Yes, that is the icon to update. Just got off the phone with support. The update has been pulled until 11/22. Allegedly there were other things to be included and they wanted to release it all at once, that's what I was told anyway.
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Since I got my G yesterday, I have not seen the App Store anywhere on it. Here is the update I have on mine:
Tap UI Update
Current Version: Flextronics/harmony/harmony/:2.2/FRF91/hudson-20101023-135552-TnT_SVN_2638:user/testkeys
I registered my product this morning (2 hours ago) and haven't received any emails confirming registration from VS.
I do have wifi on at power-on.
Purchased it at Sears outlet for $279 of which I think is a steal just for the hardware.
I am still completely stock - no OTA update yet for me either. I did not get any sort of confirmation email when I registered...the screen just said "Thanks for Registering" and that was it.
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I am still completely stock - no OTA update yet for me either. I did not get any sort of confirmation email when I registered...the screen just said "Thanks for Registering" and that was it.
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Not being released until 11/22. Flash is not in the update.
Mostly stock g-tablet, and no update. I will see what happens on 11/22.
I never got an email reply when I registered my device. Since some here have said they got a reply, I did the registration again. Still no reply.
Just looked and this is new
IMPORTANT! SOFTWARE UPDATE
On November 22nd , 2010 there will be a software update released to all owners of the G Tablet. This update will be automated to your G Tablet when you are connected via wifi, however, some early customers may need to click on the Tap UI icon in the “more” section of your home page to initiate the software update. (The download will take anywhere from 1 minute to 1 hour depending upon your wifi network speed.) Please follow the instructions posted on your G Tablet to install the latest product update which improves your G Tablet experience. This update includes a new Marketplace, additional applications, increased performance and micro SD capabilities. Look for additional updates in the future as we continue to enhance the G Tablet Thank you for your patience and cooperation.
Brand new G Tab owner. Just charged and started up last night. I received the notification of the 3389 release immediately and went ahead and let the update download and installed.
I'm just checking things out at this point keeping her stock for a while. I have a lot to learn about Android in general so I'm in no hurry to begin mods.
In just following the suggested links I ran into a problem with AppStoreHQ. There are two apps there, can't seem to find them on any of the other 'approved' app stores, Google TV Remote and the Nook reader from B&N.
I cannot install either of them, or any app for that matter, from AppStoreHQ. Anybody else having this problem.
I called Tech Support, thought it would be a good first test. I was surprised to get a real person in under 2 minutes. He was helpful, said he would try it on their G Tabs, and put me on hold. He came back in a couple of minutes and said they are having the same problem. He would report it to the software team and there should be a fix in 24 hours.
He also told there will be a general update for the G Tab in the next week.
Any help would be appreciated, even another way to get the apps I'm looking for.
ACDFx3 said:
Brand new G Tab owner. Just charged and started up last night. I received the notification of the 3389 release immediately and went ahead and let the update download and installed.
I'm just checking things out at this point keeping her stock for a while. I have a lot to learn about Android in general so I'm in no hurry to begin mods.
In just following the suggested links I ran into a problem with AppStoreHQ. There are two apps there, can't seem to find them on any of the other 'approved' app stores, Google TV Remote and the Nook reader from B&N.
I cannot install either of them, or any app for that matter, from AppStoreHQ. Anybody else having this problem.
I called Tech Support, thought it would be a good first test. I was surprised to get a real person in under 2 minutes. He was helpful, said he would try it on their G Tabs, and put me on hold. He came back in a couple of minutes and said they are having the same problem. He would report it to the software team and there should be a fix in 24 hours.
He also told there will be a general update for the G Tab in the next week.
Any help would be appreciated, even another way to get the apps I'm looking for.
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You might want to go investigate the custom firmware threads in the developer sub-forum... They all have a method for gaining near complete access to the market.
OTOH if you actually like the TapnTap UI, you can probably find the Nook and Google TV remote apks somewhere online, then read about using adb to install them from your computer, or how to enable installation from foreign source directly on the gTab(can't remember if it's on by default in stock or not since I gave up on TnT a LONG time ago and have pretty much settled on TnT lite ATM...)
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...just remembered... search this forum(and maybe the dev forum too) for info about applying some mods to stock firmware (root, Google market, etc.) if you REALLY want to stay stock... you're not going to learn a whole lot about Android in stock UI though as it's buried under the TapnTap UI... Vegan "ROM"(firmware) is closer to a vanilla Android 2.2 release...
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Installation from foreign source enabled by default, since there is no official Android Market, if it were disabled no software could be installed. If you find the '.apk' files download them to the device anf tap them then install.
3389 has a bad bug of slowing down when woken from sleep state. Only cure is to reboot. so you may want to look into one of the unofficial but from Viewsonic updated, if you want to keep that "stock' feel. If not there are many options for alternets that each have a loyal following.
Many people have applied the late January 2011 update from Viewsonic. Some accomplished this through OTA update and others by downloading and sideloading. Does anybody know why Viewsonic has no information about this update on their website? There's nothing in their Support or News areas on the GTablet webpages. In fact, if you click on the "Learn More" link on the GTablet software update menu item on the News page, you get a Error 404: Not Found. (http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/news.htm) It appears that if you don't follow this forum, you might know nothing about it at all.
Now, I've been pretty pleased with the tablet overall, especially after I added the forum.xda Enhancement Pack and Market, so I'm not out to complain about everything. I'm just trying to understand why the company would release an update without posting any information about it anywhere. This is a little bewildering since the company had to battle bad press about the tablet just a short time ago.
It is pretty crazy how horrible this device is software wise from Viewsonic.
I bought mine last night from office depot and the FIRST time i booted it up, every application i clicked crashed and FC.
Mind you, this was my unboxing experience!
I have been reading alot on this forum for a week and with all the positive feedback everyone had with custom roms I bought this knowing I would load a custom rom.
I ended up with CM7 beta05 on it, and so far I am loving it. Have all the Google apps and Market up and running. I let it charge overnight and am going to mess with it some more.
This site is really one of a kind!!!!!!!!!
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Many people have applied the late January 2011 update from Viewsonic. Some accomplished this through OTA update and others by downloading and sideloading. Does anybody know why Viewsonic has no information about this update on their website? There's nothing in their Support or News areas on the GTablet webpages. In fact, if you click on the "Learn More" link on the GTablet software update menu item on the News page, you get a Error 404: Not Found. (http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/news.htm) It appears that if you don't follow this forum, you might know nothing about it at all.
Now, I've been pretty pleased with the tablet overall, especially after I added the forum.xda Enhancement Pack and Market, so I'm not out to complain about everything. I'm just trying to understand why the company would release an update without posting any information about it anywhere. This is a little bewildering since the company had to battle bad press about the tablet just a short time ago.
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I called them 3 times yesterday and there has been no update released to the masses since december. If you go to settings then about if it says enhancement pack you are not updated yet. My guess is tomorrow or the 31st.
Yeah, the 404 Error is because the link has "gTablet" not "gtablet" in it. I mentioned this to a customer service guy at ViewSonic probably 3 weeks ago. Just takes you to the Support page. The registration link is busted the same way. Good to see they are on top of things.
So which is it?!?!?!
A few people say there was an OTA update. Others (like in this thread say there hasn't been).
Some say the enhancement pack will prevent OTA from working. Others say the enhancement pack will NOT mess anything up.
wtf?
Personally, I think I'll wait until maybe after the end of January (since VS has been saying "January January January") to see if my Enhancement pack gets OTA'd. If not, I'll flash to the original ROM, and see if that gets OTA'd. And if not, then I'll say screw VS, and either jump on the TnTLite bandwagon or just get the TNT versions that Roebeet posts, because Roebeet is pretty awesome.
OTA 3588 popped up a couple of days ago, and my gtab downloaded it, and I installed it. Then I loaded vs 3 of the enhancements pack, redid flash, redid the market fix, etc.
Wwhat about Flash?
Viwsonic's web site says the January update was supposed to support Flash (OFFICIAL). Whatever happened to That update?
"Adobe Flash Support
The Viewsonic gTablet hardware fully supports the Adobe Flash Player. An automatic firmware update will offer gTablet users the option to install the Flash Player plug-in, pending Adobe Flash certification, targeted for the end of January, 2011."
TnT Enhancement 3.1.4b DOES block the Viewsonic Update!
I reverted to the stock 3389 (update-smb_a1002-3389-user) rom just now. It booted fine, then I ran the Updater and it immediately found 3588! So now I'm updating to that (and will of course install the enhancement pack).
So....even though the enhancement pack doesn't "block" the OTA updater from running, it certainly doesn't find you until it looks like a stock install.
ok...update is done....
So now in "About tablet", I get
Model - UPC300-2.2
Android OS - 2.2
Tap UI version - 1.1-3588
Kernel version - 2.6.32.9-0000-10.8.2-dirty, [email protected]#16
Build number FRF91
Notice any major changes?
well, nothing from the responsiveness end.
But I have to say that for some reason the wifi is a bit sketchy. It's an early assessment, but if it keeps it up, I'm jumping to TnT Lite. I probably didn't appreciate all the goodies tucked into the 3.1.4b enhancement pack (like the long-press home key task manager). I can only guess what's in store in Tnt Lite 4.
Makes you wonder what ViewSonic is doing with themselves....I'm only happy with my gTab because of what roebeet and rothnic and the crew have done.
BTW, for my fellow n00bs. The 3588 update alone will hide stuff in the Market because you need the build.prop "mahimahi" tweak to get access to things like "Thumb Keyboard" and "TV.com"
GaryHypnosis said:
Viwsonic's web site says the January update was supposed to support Flash (OFFICIAL). Whatever happened to That update?
"Adobe Flash Support
The Viewsonic gTablet hardware fully supports the Adobe Flash Player. An automatic firmware update will offer gTablet users the option to install the Flash Player plug-in, pending Adobe Flash certification, targeted for the end of January, 2011."
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The problem with flash support is that Viewsonic and everyone else is dependent on Adobe issuing a "certified" Flash for each particular device. They are unable to release or include flash unless it is certified by Adobe. I agree they shouldn't be making promises on something they have no control over but in the end the fault lies with Adobe
In a perfect world adobe flash would slowly start languishing and dying off. Ufortunately it won't, so we're stuck with almost having to use it to browse anything. I'm about to try the new vanilla update as well just to see how it behaves.
The 3588 update just showed up on my tablet this morning. I did not see it before, when others reported it showing up. I guess then this is the 'official' version.
Any one else now seeing this update?
4rs fed said:
It is pretty crazy how horrible this device is software wise from Viewsonic.
I bought mine last night from office depot and the FIRST time i booted it up, every application i clicked crashed and FC.
Mind you, this was my unboxing experience!
I have been reading alot on this forum for a week and with all the positive feedback everyone had with custom roms I bought this knowing I would load a custom rom.
I ended up with CM7 beta05 on it, and so far I am loving it. Have all the Google apps and Market up and running. I let it charge overnight and am going to mess with it some more.
This site is really one of a kind!!!!!!!!!
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What kind of issues are you having with CM7 beta05? I'm thinking of trying it out.
wasserkapf said:
The 3588 update just showed up on my tablet this morning. I did not see it before, when others reported it showing up. I guess then this is the 'official' version.
Any one else now seeing this update?
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Were you also running the enhancement pack? Every time I check it shows up to date and I haven't updated since December.
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Were you also running the enhancement pack? Every time I check it shows up to date and I haven't updated since December.
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My g-tablet is "basically stock". That is I have it rooted, installed Android Market and Flash. I just needed to re-root and also uninstalled/reinstalled Flash. I redid flash because the system would shutdown (after update) when watching a Rovio Angry Birds "walkthrough" video.
I tried the beta flash download on VS favorites and that has worked fine in the last several days.
FWIW last Friday afternoon I asked Viewsonic customer support about the Web site updating. The short answer apparently is "the site maintenance is taken elsewhere and we have no control of the page contents."
I have just bought the gTablet and am salivating at the new features the custom ROMS offer (market, no tap n crap etc)
But what are the risks?
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
mmsood99 said:
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
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I believe this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000
The risks are:
1. You will not return it back to the store
2. You will not sell it
3. You will not toss it out the window
4. You will not get as much sleep, because you will be too busy modding it
5. You will have to apologize to your better half for less time spent with them
6. You will enjoy it more
etc... You get the drift....
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
scrinch said:
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
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Can you explain how you fixed the market?
Thanks
Drew
scrinch said:
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
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When I had the enhancement pack installed I couldn't get OTA updates.
After the latest update I switched from the enhancement pack to the tnt lite rom.
Since the rom had the update and more already.
mmsood99 said:
Can you explain how you fixed the market?
Thanks
Drew
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
You try this?
mmsood99 said:
I have just bought the gTablet and am salivating at the new features the custom ROMS offer (market, no tap n crap etc)
But what are the risks?
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
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If you go through any number of threads, you'll see probably the most troublesome issues are looping reboots, magic number errors and semi-bricking, I say semi because people have reported that the Gtablet is unbrickable with some work.
Personally, I also wanted to stay official but I recently moved to TnT lite 4.2.x out of wanting the updated market and not wanting to deal with multiple flashes and I've been very, very happy. So far the supplemental updates have been flawless.
There's a recovery path and I guess it generally works, but oy veh - it's a chore when you have the Tablet set up perfectly and then have it go down for any reason. With any 're-do' or switch from one ROM to another, you have to wipe your programs and settings. Some people do it without wiping, but in general that's a bad idea. So really, along with the few very pesky risks, the only other issue with venturing into ROMs is having to wipe and setup again if one gives unresolvable issues. If the typical path doesn't work, that's when you'll have to venture into APX mode and NVflash territory - that's where I dread and the reason I didn't want to get into alternative ROMs myself.
It takes a bit to put your trust into a ROM (and more so, it's author/s). So far, I have no issues at all with TnT Lite 4.2. I just went to 4.2.4. I don't ever update right away....just like I do with official updates, I let a day or 2 pass so any issues can come into the light.
At this point, I'm going to be waiting for a Honeycomb ROM, whether official or otherwise. TnT Lite 4.2.4 is perfecto so far for what I want my tablet to be/do currently, so I highly recommend it.
I'd start with TnT lite first (since I can say I have never had a problem with installing it or with it installed), if you don't like it then try the others, that is of course only if you get that undeniable urge to move forward (and you likely will).
Good Luck!
I would have to say, after flashing my gtablet at least 30 times - to try out new roms as well as make some tutorial videos, that there are so many advantages to doing so. Even nvflash and apx drivers to restore to stock is not that difficult if you are willing to take the time to get the neccessary files and read through the instructions a few times. Although I have gotten a few reboot loops (mostly through things I did wrong in my attempt to try new things and not following instructions), there is nothing that I haven't been able to recover from. The gtablet hardware is pretty darned good, and the custom roms that people here have posted are great and sooooo much better than running stock that it is night and day. I highly advise anyone who is wanting to have the best experience out of their gtablet to take the time to read up and then take the plunge - if you really mess up, there is plenty of help here on xda.
I am currently running tnt lite 4.2.3. I updated to that directly from stock. The performance I'm getting is less than many people on here say they are getting (i'm getting a quad score of 1730). Everything is working (marketplace, maps, etc) and i'm relatively pleased, but it still seems quite slow. I should also mentiong angry birds won't install for some reason. I'm not sure if i did something wrong or skipped something (i never did anything with partitioning my memory). I was thinking about starting all over again, but i noticed there are several "starting points" for tnt. Can someone recommend which version I should revert to and direct me to the best way to do it please? Thanks in advance.
Hmm weird, Ive been getting nothing less than 2050 on all scores for every rom Ive used and I think the going rate for the tntlite is 2400! You might want to try to reflash it maybe
nmac99,
Since your tablet is working fine (though I agree it sound a little slow), you have lots of options. TNT Lite 4.2.3 is the older 1.0.1-1.1 generation of software, so you can
change simply by re-flashing using stock recovery.
I have a suggestion. I just completely wiped and rebuilt my 3991 version machine and
I install roebeet's 4.3.0 and then 4.3.1. It worked smoothly and really looks nice since
it has some of the latest stuff in it.
Since you are at 4.2.3, all you would have to do is download 4.3.0 and 4.3.1 and
install them. Load recover folder and update.zip into /sdcard. Shut down. Reboot
into recovery by holding power and volume + down until you get the black recovery
message.
Go to roebeet's thread in Developers and read up and see what you think.
If you decide you're not interest in that, then I would recommend recoverying the same way to Version 3588. It is solid and you could go any direction from there. And
again, all you would have to do is flash it with stock recovery process. You might
need to reset the factory data (Settings menu, Security Option on G-Tablet). If so,
you would have to put your date, time, other settings, passwords, etc. back in.
Hope this helps!
Rev
P. S. -- I think 2100-2200 is realistic for Quadrant. Less you're behind and more you're ahead!
EDIT: Just found the Tnt Lite 4.3.2 is out. Happy modding!
I'm actually adding a new recommended pre-req to my TNT Lite and gADAM posts, today -- basically, I'm going to request that users try to start with 3588 stock as a baseline.
The reason why is because I think users who are modding back and forth all the time have started moving too far off the beaten track. When I test a new mod, I almost always do it with either 2967 (from my nvflash) or 3588 stock. And a do a data wipe. That way, it minimizes all the weird issues that might crop up if I was many steps away from stock.
Thanks for the quick replies. This board is awesome.
ive installed tnt 4.3 with no problems except i cant get the market to work. I tried the same fix i did on 4.2.3 and it doesn't work. i can initially get it open, but then it force closes after about 5 seconds and i get the process com.android.vending error. is there something else i should try with 4.3? or is it best just to reflash? by the way, i really like the look of 4.3 compared to 4.2.3. i haven't been able to run the quad score either, but it feels faster.
nmac99 said:
ive installed tnt 4.3 with no problems except i cant get the market to work. I tried the same fix i did on 4.2.3 and it doesn't work. i can initially get it open, but then it force closes after about 5 seconds and i get the process com.android.vending error. is there something else i should try with 4.3? or is it best just to reflash? by the way, i really like the look of 4.3 compared to 4.2.3. i haven't been able to run the quad score either, but it feels faster.
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It is a tad faster, as the system.img is based off their 3991 UAT - allegedly their next released stock firmware will look and feel very similiar.
I have not had an issue with the Market and 4.3.x, but again I always wipe my data when I test my mods.
Suggestion: if you didn't wipe data and want to avoid doing that, make sure that the Market app is REMOVED from your downloaded applications. It's possible that the app there is the same (or older) than the one in 4.3.2. Just taking a complete guess, here.
It worked with the data wipe. thanks for all your help.