So, I posted this in two of the posts buried deep within the bowels of the original thread, but I think it's a good idea to have it separated into it's own thread.
There are 4 screws under the rubber feet on back of the tablet that help hold the device together. Aside from these 4 screws, there are 3 plastic clips per side that hold the case closed.
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When you break the case open, you'll see the 2-cell, 7.4V battery, the motherboard, and the metal inner frame. The frame is held in place by screws around the perimeter, including 1 screw that is covered by the motherboard.
The EMF shield simply snaps off, revealing the hardware within. The Tegra 2 chip is of the T20 series, and the board is populated with 512MB of RAM, and the 2 chips composing the 16GB flash storage. The WIFI/Bluetooth module is made by USI. Audio is processed by a Realtek ALC5623 chip, through two separate speakers which are built into small enclosures.
Also, there are spaces for a 3G modem and what could be assumed to be a GPS unit left unpopulated.
There is nothing interesting to be seen on the back side of the main board except that it can be noted that there is space for an additional 512MB of ram to be added to the board and an EMF shield to be placed around it.
There is a hard-reset button on the main board, located next to the battery and below the 3G pads. There is also an unpopulated space for a second button.
Although not pictured, the screen is a standard netbook screen (which explains the viewing angles). It is manufactured by AU Optronics, model B101AW06. It is controlled by a Texas Instruments LVDS83B.
The capacitive functions are handled by Tango S32s. There is an AMTEL chip on the board with them. I'm assuming it's an interface between the main board and the capacitive controllers.
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On the whole, this is a very well built device. There is room to upgrade for those daring enough to take on the task. It will be interesting to see what people do the device when it becomes more mass market in the coming weeks.
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The chipset for the wifi/bt module is a Broadcom BCM4329.
I found this if someone wants to give it a try it can make your tablet a cdma 3g device for use with either sprint or verizon. http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/284022690/CDMA_Module.html
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It looks like that touch controller is capable of more than just the two points that it currently allows. Apparently its software controlled how much it can sense.
t3h_g3n3r4l,
can you take a look at the front facing part of the frame, and see what is behind the 4 front buttons? I was wondering if you could use nail polish remover to remove the paint behind the buttons (so some light would shine through). How hard was it to remove the main board from the case?
Thanks!
cttwarnock said:
t3h_g3n3r4l,
can you take a look at the front facing part of the frame, and see what is behind the 4 front buttons? I was wondering if you could use nail polish remover to remove the paint behind the buttons (so some light would shine through). How hard was it to remove the main board from the case?
Thanks!
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There's a circuit board down there. I didn't bother to see what all was on it though. It might be possible to use some sort of SMD LED backlight and use light-piping to etch lit buttons in whatever color you want. The only downside is that you'd most likely lose the ambient light sensor functionality.
It was fairly easy to pull the main board. All of the wiring connectors use positive force to keep them together as opposed to locking connectors, so it was just a matter of pulling everything loose, which wasn't difficult.
The hardest part was getting into the case. When pulling it apart, it's easiest to start at the corner diagonally opposite the volume button working towards the front panel buttons, then down the side with the volume controls, then down the side with the dock connector, then finally the edge with the USB ports.
Marine6680 said:
It looks like that touch controller is capable of more than just the two points that it currently allows. Apparently its software controlled how much it can sense.
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Interesting. I wonder if the AMTEL chip on the board with those sensor chips is actually what is limiting us the two-point multitouch, as opposed to Android. It looked like a microcontroller chip (I think maybe a PIC), I just never really bothered to read all of the etchings on it.
Looks like I need to open this thing up again and see what else I can discover.
I can't stop thinking about those pads for the additional 512mb of memory. Sourcing the chips and some extremely steady hands could pay off in spades.
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amathophobia said:
I can't stop thinking about those pads for the additional 512mb of memory. Sourcing the chips and some extremely steady hands could pay off in spades.
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You can't directly solder to the chips. A toaster oven, otoh, should do the trick.
cttwarnock said:
t3h_g3n3r4l,
can you take a look at the front facing part of the frame, and see what is behind the 4 front buttons? I was wondering if you could use nail polish remover to remove the paint behind the buttons (so some light would shine through). How hard was it to remove the main board from the case?
Thanks!
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I would love to see someone do this!!!!!
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You can't directly solder to the chips. A toaster oven, otoh, should do the trick.
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I have hand soldered to a surface before, there's actually lots of tutorials online of how to get good at it, it becomes an art form to some. usually comes down to using the right amount of flux paste in the right areas.
If I can get one of these devices, and someone can find a source for those chips I am 100% sure that I can get those chips on.
same with the 3G and GPS modules
If you all find it, I will solder. but, y'know, make 100% damn sure their right first.
also, even if I DO get them on the board, will the device even recognize the hardware? It might right of the bat, but more likely, we'll have to modify the kernel, which hey, I'm hardware, not software, someone's gotta be with me on the other half of this project if the need arises.
EDIT: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...GPS-SG-T/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuD5AK9w5s05iDvClDmkWN6 this might work for that gps space... I'd really have to get my hands on the hardware to see if it's compatible...
EDIT EDIT: http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/109064341/LEA_5S.html actually I think this would work better.
cttwarnock said:
t3h_g3n3r4l,
can you take a look at the front facing part of the frame, and see what is behind the 4 front buttons? I was wondering if you could use nail polish remover to remove the paint behind the buttons (so some light would shine through). How hard was it to remove the main board from the case?
Thanks!
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when I get mine I will break out the multimeter and see if there are any loose spots i could drain power to some led's for. that takes care of the light source, but making the light shine through is a whole other problem. making it shine through the pre-existing plastic is also going to be finicky, you want to make sure you arent going to damage anything that would break the capacitive touch screen.
Lemcott said:
I have hand soldered to a surface before, there's actually lots of tutorials online of how to get good at it, it becomes an art form to some. usually comes down to using the right amount of flux paste in the right areas.
If I can get one of these devices, and someone can find a source for those chips I am 100% sure that I can get those chips on.
same with the 3G and GPS modules
If you all find it, I will solder. but, y'know, make 100% damn sure their right first.
also, even if I DO get them on the board, will the device even recognize the hardware? It might right of the bat, but more likely, we'll have to modify the kernel, which hey, I'm hardware, not software, someone's gotta be with me on the other half of this project if the need arises.
EDIT: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...GPS-SG-T/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuD5AK9w5s05iDvClDmkWN6 this might work for that gps space... I'd really have to get my hands on the hardware to see if it's compatible...
EDIT EDIT: http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/109064341/LEA_5S.html actually I think this would work better.
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Interesting. I might have to give the whole solder to a grid array package another look.
I also agree that the uBlox GPS would be the better choice.
Lemcott said:
I have hand soldered to a surface before, there's actually lots of tutorials online of how to get good at it, it becomes an art form to some. usually comes down to using the right amount of flux paste in the right areas.
If I can get one of these devices, and someone can find a source for those chips I am 100% sure that I can get those chips on.
same with the 3G and GPS modules
If you all find it, I will solder. but, y'know, make 100% damn sure their right first.
also, even if I DO get them on the board, will the device even recognize the hardware? It might right of the bat, but more likely, we'll have to modify the kernel, which hey, I'm hardware, not software, someone's gotta be with me on the other half of this project if the need arises.
EDIT: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...GPS-SG-T/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuD5AK9w5s05iDvClDmkWN6 this might work for that gps space... I'd really have to get my hands on the hardware to see if it's compatible...
EDIT EDIT: http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/109064341/LEA_5S.html actually I think this would work better.
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An easier route may be to resolder what looks to be the Mini-PCI express port back on. That would let you pop in all sorts of cards, notably a 3G+GPS card. Step one is finding out if its mini-pci express. From the pics they look close.
SMT soldering is not too difficult by hand with the proper set up. I had to learn to do it while in the military, everything from SMT repair to repairing boards with bullet holes through the middle. The only chips that need an oven to solder are the ones with a grid of contacts on the bottom surface of the chip like CPUs.
People used to add memory to the original xbox. Not sure if the process the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi3Bi2i2bEg
There are a lot of diagrams and source info on adding mini pci cards on mydellmini.com.
http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/dell-mini-1010/12234-serious-talk-about-mini-pci-e-slots-4.html
http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/del...s/4635-sdhc-mini-pcie-adapter-would-work.html
Hope these can be of some help.
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amathophobia said:
People used to add memory to the original xbox. Not sure if the process the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi3Bi2i2bEg
There are a lot of diagrams and source info on adding mini pci cards on mydellmini.com.
http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/dell-mini-1010/12234-serious-talk-about-mini-pci-e-slots-4.html
http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/del...s/4635-sdhc-mini-pcie-adapter-would-work.html
Hope these can be of some help.
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I believe the Viewsonic uses BGA memory, which means the solder points aren't exposed and unfortunately you can't use a soldering iron on them. Ovens have to be used to solder them.
It would be interesting to find out if the Mini-PCIe connector would work though.
EDIT:
The next time someone has one of these tablets apart, would you please measure the height of the standoffs for the Mini-PCIe? If I can get that info, I'll order a connector and give it a try. Might be nice to add 3G/GPS for (relatively) cheap.
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I believe the Viewsonic uses BGA memory, which means the solder points aren't exposed and unfortunately you can't use a soldering iron on them. Ovens have to be used to solder them.
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That was my original point. I think it can also be done with solder paste and a heat gun, but you may as well go ahead and bake the whole thing at that point. I would be much more comfortable soldering to the USB host and adding some additional ports/gadgets than I would be with breaking out a heat gun and torching my brand new tablet.
Guys i like where this is going.....lets keep on it this!
Any updates?
Getting 3g/gps and possibility of the keys to light up......this would be killer!
Kov695 said:
Guys i like where this is going.....lets keep on it this!
Any updates?
Getting 3g/gps and possibility of the keys to light up......this would be killer!
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Not lately. I've been completely wrapped up with school. I have the feeling it will be 2 or 3 more weeks before I get the free time to do anything with my tab other than just load firmware and use it.
did pci-e can use turbo memory？
looks like there might be room near the usb ports for a stripped down usb hub and 3g modem. We could get both 3G data and voice with skype or fring
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Sometimes I can be pretty handy. Other times I order specialty parts and promptly break them.
I have more videos on the way.
Part 2 of my FedEd shipping video which shows the Desire next to the Hero side by side during unpacking.
Another shows some of the current layout and widget elements of my homescreens.
I'm collecting all HTC Desire videos across the web and organizing them into a simple interface at vodpod.com -- only 100 times better than youtube.
For now: The videos I've collected so far -- not nearly all of them... http://www.vodpod.com/XDAdesire
And the HTC DESIRE Group video site: http://vodpod.com/group/htc+desire
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You sir, are a genious!
Is that a piece of wood?
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Is that a piece of wood?
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It is.
I liked your pre-edited comment; request to bring it back
Very simple but effective way of making a dock!
I've been thinking of making one myself but have been wondering what to make it from.
A nice dark wood with a routed edge would look sweet i think!
(keep an eye on This thread, it could turn out well)
ximonx said:
Very simple but effective way of making a dock!
I've been thinking of making one myself but have been wondering what to make it from.
A nice dark wood with a routed edge would look sweet i think!
(keep an eye on This thread, it could turn out well)
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Oh, so you were serious with the edited out "you, sir, are a genius!" ! HA HAH... I thought you were just playing along with my self-deprecating video showing how dumb i was to forget the tip was protruding when i smacked the cable from the back side to wedge it into place.
Well, if you're serious, then, here's where to get every version of cable you might want... these guys have it all, and quality is great.
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http://www.usbfirewire.com/u_microb_cables_angled.html
I think having a cherry wood would be beautiful...
I did that whole thing in 30 minutes because I was impatient, the cable had just arrived, and I wanted to see if it worked, so i was doing a rough version as a "proof of concept".... And I just started with the premise that if I drilled a hole at the angle that i want the desire to lean back at, and I drilled it slightly narrow so I have to wedge in the cable head (which has soft-plastic corners thus would wedge-in snugly), that the basic idea of embedding the microUSB connector at the correct angle would not be so hard....
but this, again, was a quick test... and i was making it up as i went along, with literal hacking of wood and screwdriver and hammer!
While I was just doing it fast and brainstorming at same time, i was thinking "what could i use to stabilize the back side of the desire so it was solid when i pressed the screen"... then i thought of those clear plastic acrylic things at office supply places -- two kinds -- either the clear business card holder, which would only provide a minimal back surface, probably not enough, or one of those 3x5 photo holders that display at pretty much the exact angle you'd want your phone to display.
http://www.azardisplays.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=149
Well, just some ideas in case you decide to make one. would love to see your end result.
I just wonder though if you would do better to get a ready made dock and then make the outer casing be cherry wood such that it perfectly covers up all exterior facets while still having, ready made, those nice touches like spare battery charger as well...
quicksite said:
Sometimes I can be pretty handy. Other times I order specialty parts and promptly break them.
I have more videos on the way.
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SNAP! He has a voice
Pretty smart about making a dock for now. I really don't use them, but if I did...I would surely be making one or at least drawing up some blueprints to make one.
Desire stand/ charger.
Here's one i made earlier as there still seem to be none available. Used some scrap metal from work bent it a bit and then polished it. Hope the attachments appear
compo702 said:
Here's one i made earlier as there still seem to be none available. Used some scrap metal from work bent it a bit and then polished it. Hope the attachments appear
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there is one floating around the market now. I have it and has the option to charge the desire and another battery is great
loads of business card holders fit the desire quite well, they could be adapted easily to include a usb
mobilefun.co.uk/cat/Desire-Docks.htm
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sry for the offtopic, but what widget are u using to show the calls, messages and stuff?
mase60 said:
sry for the offtopic, but what widget are u using to show the calls, messages and stuff?
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No problem, I have been away from the site for many months and just getting back to XDA after long gap. ....
That is what I consider the be the greatest single widget made on the Android platform -- it is called EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT ... and as soon as I get time, i will be making videos that feature the various apps and widgets I use -- AND WHY.
Executive Assistant has been updated probably 5 more times since this video, and it keeps getting better and better. It is one of the most customizable pieces of functionality around.
It can be as small as a 1x2 widget or as large as a 4x4 widget...
In the 1x2, 1x3 and 1x4 modes, E.A. displays icons only -- THAT IS ALL YOU SEE on my display --- and you can configure it to show up to i think 6 different things:
email
SMS
phone calls missed or voicemail
twitter
facebook
RSS feeds
i thought maybe there was one more thing
But if you set it up as a 2x2 or 2x3 or 2x4, then the line above the icon displays the actual message information, and scrolls... tap the different icon at bottom, and in the same display space, it shows the detail info for THAT item, and so on.
If it's 3x and 4x, then you are seeing a lot more of the actual messages filling your home page.
HERE IS WHY I DO NOT USE anything more that 1x4 (actually now I just use 1x3): Because i don't need to have a widget take up all that extra space on my home screen -- because ONE TAP on the icon -- and it pops up a window that displays on top of the whole page. so, tap on twitter icon and pop up diplsays whole page showing all twitter feed, and SCROLLS. Then -- you want more? tap the icon again and it launches your selected twitter app .... or a different tap pops back down the window to its collapsed row of icons only.
It's truly amazing --- and you can select your prefered app for each function... so for voicemail, you could select visual voicemail from your provider.... for SMS you could select handcent... for email you could select the native gmail app or launch a browser...
ok thats all for now.
try it. there is a free version -- and yes -- it has some small ads... but you know what, there are a few apps worth paying for ---- this is one. Biut even if you dont want to pay? FREE with ads.
incredible -- likely to win a devvy award for android division at end of this year.
compo702 said:
Here's one i made earlier as there still seem to be none available. Used some scrap metal from work bent it a bit and then polished it. Hope the attachments appear
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Wow, I have to say, that is pretty inventive! That's the first time I have seen product design from a user here where they have gone and found materials to actually match the look of a desktop background! very impressive --- I love it when people make custom stuff!
I have been away for months --- no, not locked in a mental institution, though at times it has felt like that -- but i have been away from all things related to the Desire -- and android. ... And coincidentally, without even looking here on this thread, i just ordered a dock a few days ago from hong kong. They have been available for several months, but i kept waiting to see if there would be any variations. Nope... Just the same 2 or 3 slight versions on same thing offered for Nexus One almost a year ago which all got slightly tweaked for the different connections of the Desire. There are a few different vendors...
I chose this one since it's basically all same stuff but this one sells the cradle with the extra battery charger, plus sends the extra battery.
The annoying thing about this ridiculous world-wide lack of support of 3rd party accessories for HTC smartphones is the shipping time... Everything from Hong Kong takes forever.
(joke) I think it must be against the law to air express anything. All they ever do, and I mean EVER do, is send airmail which takes weeks and weeks (/joke)
CURRENT LISTING on ebay, fyi:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CRADLE-SYNC-DOC...402576?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4cf2959050
About $20 USD including shipping --- but again -- takes about 3 weeks to get, ugh.
Hi all!!!
I, too, am fashioning my own dock, however instead of doing it from wood, or from scratch, I'm kind of cheating.
I'm going to be re-purposing something else.
This:
It's basically a USB extension lead, but with an up angled end shoved into that plastic thing, I broke it today and so I thought...cheap and easy micro-USB dock! And so I'm almost finished getting myself a cheap and okay looking dock
When it's done I shall make a new thread and post high quality images
I definitely want to see this! I love original thinking! yeah!
p.s. i got my dock from china 2 days ago... You know life is a little cazy when I have not even had chnace to plug it in and use it. Ridicululous.
HEY, that raises a question.
Does anybody else have problems with LOOSE CONNECTIONS at the USB port at bottom of the Desire phone? I swear, my cables always come out way too easily -- whether in the car with cigarette lighter, or USB data cable to computer, or charging micro usb to charge the unit....
Cant tell you how many times I had it plugged in overnight only to find that in the morning it wasn't charged, and warning said "plug in now, battery extremely low"..
I have ruled out, in every case, the cable and connectors. They are all fine. So it has got to be the phone's USB port. It just doesn't seem to bs SNUG and tight. Does anyone else have this problem?
thank you
toyface said:
Hi all!!!
I, too, am fashioning my own dock, however instead of doing it from wood, or from scratch, I'm kind of cheating.
I'm going to be re-purposing something else.
This:
It's basically a USB extension lead, but with an up angled end shoved into that plastic thing, I broke it today and so I thought...cheap and easy micro-USB dock! And so I'm almost finished getting myself a cheap and okay looking dock
When it's done I shall make a new thread and post high quality images
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Dock is almost done, need to go to a hardware store for a couple of bits. It should be quite good, need a bit of acrylic at the back I think, to give it a bit to lean against.
I never have a problem really, even when I hang it upside-down for a few seconds it takes a while for it to fall out.
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Fantastic! Hey are you open to commissioned 2nd one? wouldn't you know, i finally try my grreat chinese shipped product, and no charging at cradle, and no USB contact with data cable, tried and retried... called them in bejiing. they were very nice, but what value is getting my money back.?
Look at the date of this thread. May 1. 6 months later i don't have a dock.
well i've lived this long without one.
But good luck, yours looks rather cool !!
toyface said:
Dock is almost done, need to go to a hardware store for a couple of bits. It should be quite good, need a bit of acrylic at the back I think, to give it a bit to lean against.
I never have a problem really, even when I hang it upside-down for a few seconds it takes a while for it to fall out.
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Hopefully as I pop into town today I can get the little bits that I need to fill it in so its extremely stable, depending on how well it goes, you could always buy a cheap Belkin wireless USB adaptor that comes with that dock ha ha, a wireless card and a phone dock
When its finished I'll post a new thread with detailed pics from my SLR
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I don't have any pictures handy, but I used a large Binder Clip.. lifehacker.com / #!5747897 / how-to-build-a-car-mount-for-your-cellphone-from-office-supplies
I slowly bent the end of the "handles" and, because my pliers gouged into the metal, dipped them into rubber tool handle dip.
Works pretty decent.. though now I too am working on getting a mount that allows the camera to see the road.. AR Navigation FTW!
I'm just wondering if anybody was curious enough (and maybe brave enough ) to try tearing down their new Captivate yet? I started, figured out that if you lift in the middle of the battery lock as you pull out, you can slide it a bit further than normal, exposing the remaining two of the six screws on the back of the device.
However, I was unable to separate the back from the front, and gave up because I didn't want to force it and chance breaking my phone. I think there might be another screw underneath the sticker in the battery cavity, but I'm not certain.
Ok, scratch that, there is NOT another screw underneath the sticker. I just peeled it back a little to check. Theres one small hole where it feels like there might be a screw, but its just a hole
I am tempted to press on, I'd like to get some pictures of the internal hardware so that we can figure out what this does or does not have, (FM Radio -> I'm lookin at you!)
It definitely looks to be the same basic PCB structure as the Galaxy S i9000. I just which I could get the back cover off without feeling like I'm going to break my phone.
EDIT: I made a little progress, got the back *mostly* separated from the phone. All but one latch at the top of the phone that appears to be very stubborn. I'm not sure if there's an adhesive there or just a stubborn latch, but I can't get it out.
EDIT 2: Got it!!! Its open now, will post pics of its innards soon..
looking forward to finding out if the fm-radio is possible, was mad after i found out att had disabled it, but if the chip is still there then there's hope
eating own foot.
blackhawk00001 said:
looking forward to finding out if the fm-radio is possible, was mad after i found out att had disabled it, but if the chip is still there then there's hope
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I'm not entirely sure which chip to be looking for, but I've got a few pictures up, the quality may not be enough to work out what chips are or are not present, I'm going to work on getting ahold of a better camera, hopefully tomorrow, to get some clear pictures of the board.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736363
Were you able to locate the internal SD card? Any signs that it may be replaceable for, say, a 32GB? Or is it soldered on?
it definitely looks to be soldered on. There is what looks to be a samsung flash chip...
So.. after some tinkering (and massaging) I got the back cover off of my Captivate and was able to snap some pics of the innards for your viewing pleasure.
It's very similar to the standard Galaxy S, but some of the chips are laid out a bit differently, also, I apologize for the substandard picture quality, the only thing I have available to take pictures is a Blackberry Storm2 with an led flash.
Update: I've taken some better pictures now, and I've got them uploaded:
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Enjoy!
Update:
Step by Step Teardown
Very cool
That is cool. Wonder how long it will be until we see a complete tear down of the phone
That is (almost) as far as you can go. Theres one more PCB thats actually attached to the screen. Other than that, that main board and the sim/sd card board that sits on top of it are all thats there.
Edit: Here are some better pictures I was able to take this morning, unfortunately EVERY single picture I tried to take of the small Broadcom chip turned out like crap, or you could not see the writing on the chip. I could not read it myself, as the writing on the chip is extremely tiny, and I don't have a magnifying glass.
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Any way you could do a photo-by-photo instruction for the tear-down? Maybe put some o' dem fancy photo-ma-shop arrows in there?
I suppose I could do that
I just need a few more photos of the "in between" steps to give a better idea of what needs to be disconnected and how to get the back cover off.
And then there's the whole write up thing. -- Question about that, should I do a new "tear down" thread, I'll get a bit more in depth this time as well, I'll get all the chip numbers down (I found a magnifying glass!) so we can better cross reference what hardware we have in comparison to the Galaxy S i9000.
Will probably be a day or two until I can get it up, maybe longer depending on the write up.
Yeah, I'm guessing a tear-down thread would be in order unless there's some way of changing your thread title. Appreciate it.
I spilled a bit of an "adult beverage" on my Captivate last nite. Dang cat... Nothing went wrong w/the phone... save for the power button & the volume rocker... They were a bit... sticky.
I was able to get them cleaned up a bit using a razor blade & some alcohol wipes, but I'd love to be able to fully clean everything by disassembling the phone. I removed the 4 screws in the back beneath the battery cover, but got nowhere...
Can someone confirm if the fm radio chip is there?
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t-readyroc said:
I removed the 4 screws in the back beneath the battery cover, but got nowhere...
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There are actually 6 screws. Two are hidden underneath the sliding latch for the battery door.
isyiwang said:
Can someone confirm if the fm radio chip is there?
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Thats one of the purposes of tearing the phone down, I'm hoping to answer that question, or at least give enough people enough information to find out.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...me=N&application_id=200666&fcc_id='A3LSGHI897'
pretty cool u think now that we can tear it down, we can add the front camera too it?
I don't know, it would definitely take someone much more skilled than I to fit the Front camera in.
The layout on the top is a tiny bit different, and it would require some changes to that as well as making space above the screen on the opposite side for the camera.
So, definitely NOT an easy job, if it is even possible.
if you look at that video of the teardown of a galaxy S i9000, it looks like the FFC is part of the rear facing camera module
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt9XNnjAcBc&feature=player_embedded
at 2:59 in the video the camera is taken out, and at 3:07 she turns it over and you can see the front facing camera - does your rear facing camera look different (except for the obvious, missing that small black square with the FFC)?
if it's not different, except for the missing ft camera, i suspect these are all modular components so sammy could assemble them, as needed, to a customer's specs - which means, if someone can source that correct module w/ffc, and rip the driver and software for it from the i9000, that it'd be possible
The camera is identical, minutes the front facing piece, if course. The connection to the main board is the same as well.
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if you pull it apart again, it'd be nice if you had a magnifier or a camera capable of macro shots so we can definitively identify that gps chipset
The macro on my camera is good, but not that good =)
My magnifying glass, however, shows me that the chip is a BCM4751.
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My research shows that this chip does not do anything with FM radio so that is quite disappointing. Dammit AT&T! Always got gotta crap up a great phone. So now we don't get FM radio and we don't get the FFC.
if its the same camera module minus the FFC, im sure we will find some junk galaxys on ebay for parts soon enough, sum1 will develop a new front for us hopefully, pop in the new camera, get the ROM for it to work, and hope it can work. i am by no way an engineer or anything technically, so im not saying its plausable, just saying it could work if some1 knew how to do it.
NikAmi said:
My research shows that this chip does not do anything with FM radio so that is quite disappointing. Dammit AT&T! Always got gotta crap up a great phone. So now we don't get FM radio and we don't get the FFC.
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This chip is the broadcom gps. He replied to the larryccf question.
So, I hope fm radio is here.
Broadcom BCM4751 is a single-chip GPS receiver used for tracking and navigation, primarily in mobile devices.
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iLoki said:
The macro on my camera is good, but not that good =)
My magnifying glass, however, shows me that the chip is a BCM4751.
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tks - it may be sammy did use a different gps chipset in the captivate
and btw, macro will magnify - take a high res shot, then open on your pc, depending on how hi res, i've had them open the picture in 25 X 22" or so sizes
and you can see mosquito footprints - had an Omega, a high end one that had a serial number on the backside way too small to read even with a 6X magnifier - had to have been laser etched
used a macro shot to read it - no joke
try it some time
Okay, so I have given up hope that HTC will be making the desktop dock that uses the pogo pins for our model anytime soon. I feel that the customs lockdown by Apple has really stunted the production of accessories for our phones since not many people have them yet.
So basically, I am wondering about the viability of modifying the HTC One X Desktop Dock to work with our phones (specifically this one here):
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I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Okay, so I have given up hope that HTC will be making the desktop dock that uses the pogo pins for our model anytime soon. I feel that the customs lockdown by Apple has really stunted the production of accessories for our phones since not many people have them yet.
So basically, I am wondering about the viability of modifying the HTC One X Desktop Dock to work with our phones (specifically this one here):
I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Bumping because I honestly didn't know what those 5 connections were for. And that'd be cool.
Customs lockdown,
A) I thought Americans can buy the HTC One X now.
B) There are more markets than the US.
I think the problem is the Galaxy SIII is the device "got to have it now Android fanboys" are looking for and the sales of the HTC One X was really not that great.
Small market = low sales of Accessories
Yeah I was curious about this too. Not that I'd really want to attempt it, but I am getting tired of the lack of AT&T (ONE XL) accessories and I really want this dock as well. I'd really hate to rough it up since it looks sleek in it's natural form. You could always shave down the bottom/corners to get the plugs to line up but I think the indent for the camera might still give you a slight issue and it wouldn't set right as a result.
I seriously hope they plan to release this for the AT&T version eventually.
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I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Without seeing the internals, it's impossible to know. Those pins are the charge/sync connection--note that there is no microUSB connection.
It's possible the assembly holding the pins is separate and moveable; its also possible that it's part of the main circuit board, in which case modding would be next to impossible for average DIY folks.
Even if the pins can be moved, the connections to the main board in things like this are often hair-thin wires that are very easy to break and next to impossible to solder back together.
I've tried mods/repairs like this in the past, and failed more often than I got it to work.
AstroDigital said:
Customs lockdown,
A) I thought Americans can buy the HTC One X now.
B) There are more markets than the US.
I think the problem is the Galaxy SIII is the device "got to have it now Android fanboys" are looking for and the sales of the HTC One X was really not that great.
Small market = low sales of Accessories
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US can buy One X now. The point is, it probably would have taken 2 months for there to have been an OEM One XL desktop dock under normal circumstances. But, since one of the biggest markets for the One XL didn't sell hardly any devices, it unquestionably set the sales way back. Then to make matters worse, when they finally did get going the GS3 was almost out so that hurt things even more.
So yeah, obviously GS3 will have hurt things, but don't think that the One X would not have done much better without Apple's meddling.
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Without seeing the internals, it's impossible to know. Those pins are the charge/sync connection--note that there is no microUSB connection.
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Right, that's why I want this in the first place.
It's possible the assembly holding the pins is separate and moveable; its also possible that it's part of the main circuit board, in which case modding would be next to impossible for average DIY folks.
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Good call -- I hadn't even considered that it would be directly on the circuit board. I still would expect it is not, but there is still a decent chance.
Even if the pins can be moved, the connections to the main board in things like this are often hair-thin wires that are very easy to break and next to impossible to solder back together.
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True enough.
After all the effort you will put into modding it, and not even knowing if the mod will work. You're better off just waiting a few weeks until they release a HOXL version..
Just my opinion.
I'm pretty sure the layout of the pins is the same.
Its just moved a little but upwards compared to our version.
The pins should be in the same spot, does anyone have this dock and can confirm or deny it?
What brand is this dock anyways? May be beneficial to email the manufacturer and see if they can give you any information on this unit, or if they will be releasing an ATT version anytime soon.
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What brand is this dock anyways? May be beneficial to email the manufacturer and see if they can give you any information on this unit, or if they will be releasing an ATT version anytime soon.
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The pins should be in the same spot, does anyone have this dock and can confirm or deny it?
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Confirmed back in May that they're not in same spot.
It's on the AT&T store, but apparently it hasn't shipped out to anyone yet. Also they won't apply my discount to it either. Very weird.
this does exist.. i have seen and used one.... it ONLY works on the one X and not the XL. (the xl is the LTE / atnt version)... The pins on the ONE XL and differently located as everyone says and i can confirm.. i have not seen a dock like this for the XL yet... if any one has please reply.. with the model number..
the one is the thread is the S650..
Thanks
I gave up on this and just grabbed a dock off of eBay. They sell for 10 bucks a pop and they use the usb port. Certainly not as nice as the pogo pins would have been, but it works.
Pictures of the electronics
Hi Folks,
I got me a One X cradle today, works pretty awesome.
Just drop the phone on it and it starts charging and playing music instantly (if music was already on.)
The sound is pretty good, just got no bass, but can't expect that of a dock with no woofer.
That's why I want to try and mod in a Jack plug in the circuit, so I can hook it up to my stereo really easy.
For that I was opening the dock and remembered this thread, may as well make some pictures and share.
In return, can anyone give me some advice on how to place the jack plug?
I was thinking of cutting the wires that go from the main PCB to the speakers and place a jack and a switch between.
So I can switch between jack and speakers with the switch.
But I'm not 100% sure this will work, any advice before I ruin my dock at the first day?
If I use this method, do I use two read wires and one black, or the other way around?
Would like to have a stereo output of cores.
Would it be better to hook it up before the main PCB (before the signal is amplified)?
I can't really figure out what wire is what, except for the wires that go to the speakers.
here's the album: http://imageshack.us/g/339/imag0092ms.jpg/
About the the small PCB with the 5 pogo pins.
If the spacing between the pins is the same on XL as on X, you could move this PCB and maybe make things fit for the XL. But doesn't seam easy. If the spacing is different, than it would be very very hard. The pins a re pressed through a small metal beam and than soldered individually.
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Hi Folks,
In return, can anyone give me some advice on how to place the jack plug?
I was thinking of cutting the wires that go from the main PCB to the speakers and place a jack and a switch between.
So I can switch between jack and speakers with the switch.
But I'm not 100% sure this will work, any advice before I ruin my dock at the first day?
If I use this method, do I use two read wires and one black, or the other way around?
Would like to have a stereo output of cores.
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I /believe/ than your idea of putting a switch before the speakers would be fine (having the signal amplified before your plug to your own jack) But getting the signal before would be better...
There's a good chance that the pins are digital and you won't be able to get audio before the board.. You could have your phone in the dock.. with the dock opened up. Then take some old headphones and cut the jack off, take the wires from one earpiece and try the pins one by one (without undocking your phone) You definitely won't be able to hurt your phone by moving them around (I just wouldn't hold them down a long time if you're on ground and vcc) but for a moment should be fine
so I would try moving the earpiece wires onto the different pins (you really probably have to have it in the dock, I doubt that audio signal goes out unless the phone thinks it's in a dock..
But seriously I'm pretty confident that getting the signal just before the speakers would be fine
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be because I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
icingdeath88 said:
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be becausei I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
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Okay, so I have given up hope that HTC will be making the desktop dock that uses the pogo pins for our model anytime soon. I feel that the customs lockdown by Apple has really stunted the production of accessories for our phones since not many people have them yet.
So basically, I am wondering about the viability of modifying the HTC One X Desktop Dock to work with our phones (specifically this one here):
I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Wait...so the ATT version of the HTC One X is called the One XL? I guess I'm farrrrr behind on my model number knowledge, because I thought the Telstra/another Canadian carrier version was the XL.
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icingdeath88 said:
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be because I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
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I know this thread is really old....but this whole mod was just for the pogo pins? For devices that don't rely on them, the international One X and the ATT version will be cross-compatible, right? At least as far as accessories go, the only different is the pogo pin placement? So cases, and devices that use the Microusb port, or other dimensions should be exactly the same, right? I had a ATT HOX, but I ended up tossing it for the Note. It was always known to me, and spoken about in discussions as the "ATT HTC One X" or ATT HOX.
I wound up buying one again at a later date for my sister....and now I'm looking to get her a dock so she'll be able to use it on a nightstand/end table as a sort of digital clock/ alarm clock, after I install some fancy app.
What do I need to buy? And I need to get one specifically for the ATT HTC One X? And it's called the One XL? Sorry....I had mine the first week it came out....quite a while ago. The customs issues are ironed out now, but the HTC website, when clicking accessories on the device page shows 0 accessories....ridiculous.
Any recommendations for a affordable dock? Any other killer accessories I might consider for her? Christmas is nipping me in the butt here, and I'm hurting for time. Suggestions would be appreciated.
icingdeath88 said:
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be because I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
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Hi. I just ran into this old thread. I just got my att htc one x plus and i really want to make this dock work for it. This morning i received the uk dock so im ready for some modding. Do you still have it? do you have any pics of your result? thank you and much appreciated.
Hello everyone,
I am having a major problem with my Nexus 5’s microphone (LG-D820). Before I continue, I have searched for threads with the same issue but none appears to be the same, despite being similar. I keep finding that others mention that other people can hear them as if they're distant from the phone. Others mention a fix by plugging in headphones and toggling speakerphone as a fix. None of these are true for my device. I found a bug report thread on Google’s bug list for AOSP (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=80251) but it has a small priority with no resolution to the issue.
Onto the issue: The microphone does not work at all unless I make a phone call and activate the speakerphone. Even sound recording apps or Google’s voice recognition search does not work. I have noticed that there is a 2 second static when trying to record audio using sound recorder, which is amplified by covering the mic on the top of the phone.
Since the mic appears to work on speakerphone, I figured it couldn't be a hardware problem. I tried restoring back to Google’s original build (4.4 KRT16M) for the nexus 5 to see if it was an issue with 5.0.1 and I had no luck. I literally tried every single build released by Google (KOT49H, KTU84M, KTU84P, LRX210, and LRX22C) and I have had no luck. I even went as far as installing Sailfish OS and Firefox OS to see if a non-android OS would fix the issue. No luck.
Desperate for a fix, I purchased the Charging USB Port Dock Connector Mic Flex Cable (for reference: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111297706019) to replace my old one and it didn’t fix anything of course.
At this point, I’m all out of options and afraid that I’ll have to buy another phone. I seriously do not want to stray from the nexus 5 but I don’t know what else to do.
Does anyone have idea what else I could try to fix the issue? Even any thoughts on why a non-android OS wouldn't fix the issue are welcome. Thanks in advance guys.
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You did a factory reset right?
zerosum0 said:
You did a factory reset right?
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yes I did.
UPDATE AND FIX:
So upon reviewing the aforementioned AOSP bug list thread, someone posted a link to the product forums (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/kUrmrlzYJ_o[301-325]) and then a user by the name of Alexandre Macedo suggested pressing on the battery cover, just underneath the camera/flash.
So i tried it and it did in fact fix the microphone issue. I opened the phone again to see what could be the cause of the problem. From what I can tell, the vibrator motor needs to be pressed down to connect with the motherboard.
In all honesty, I do not understand why the vibrator motor should affect the nexus 5's microphone at all.
In addition, I noticed I need to now press and hold the battery cover at all times in order to use my microphone. I tried another battery cover (from my brother's nexus 5) and i still need to maintain the battery cover pressed down.
Anyone have any ideas how to fix this new yet less serious issue?
FINAL UPDATE:
After applying manual pressure on different parts of the exposed motherboard, I isolated the pressure point to the left part of the connector that leads from USB Charging Port/Mic up to the motherboard.
I tried cleaning out the port and the connector and it doesn't seem to work without applying a bit of pressure on the connector. At this point I'm thinking it's just some wear and tear or a bit of malfunction on the motherboard port.
To fix the issue I ripped a small piece of my business card and used a bit of double sided 2mm tape to hold the piece of card between the connector and the chassis covering the motherboard. This pressure seems to be more than enough to establish a proper connection.
Alas the issue is fixed. Hopefully this will help someone else in the near future. Thanks everyone for reading at least.
seromba said:
FINAL UPDATE:
After applying manual pressure on different parts of the exposed motherboard, I isolated the pressure point to the left part of the connector that leads from USB Charging Port/Mic up to the motherboard.
I tried cleaning out the port and the connector and it doesn't seem to work without applying a bit of pressure on the connector. At this point I'm thinking it's just some wear and tear or a bit of malfunction on the motherboard port.
To fix the issue I ripped a small piece of my business card and used a bit of double sided 2mm tape to hold the piece of card between the connector and the chassis covering the motherboard. This pressure seems to be more than enough to establish a proper connection.
Alas the issue is fixed. Hopefully this will help someone else in the near future. Thanks everyone for reading at least.
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Hey man ! I think I'm having the same issue on my nexus 5, if I press on the back under the camera, it hears me, but if not the phone doesn't recognize my voice.
Speakerphone is okay, voice calls are working..
Can you help me ? Can you explain how should I fix that ?
Thank you a lot I'm desperated
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Hey man ! I think I'm having the same issue on my nexus 5, if I press on the back under the camera, it hears me, but if not the phone doesn't recognize my voice.
Speakerphone is okay, voice calls are working..
Can you help me ? Can you explain how should I fix that ?
Thank you a lot I'm desperated
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hey man sorry for the late reply, i just got home from vacation.
so what i did to fix it (sort of) was put a little thick piece of paper between the plastic that covers the motherboard (top half of the phone, above the battery) and the battery cover in order to apply the pressure needed to press down on the connector/port for the Charging USB Port Dock Connector Mic Flex Cable (check my original post for reference) .
I used a bit of double sided 2mm tape to hold the paper in place. I had to sort of guess where to put the paper but it's pretty easy if you just take a look at the motherboard underneath the aforementioned plastic cover.
keep in mind i still have issues here and there when the battery cover shifts a little and removes the required pressure, so it's not a full fix.
if you need pictures, don't hesitate to ask. i'll post them asap if you do. good luck!
Having same issue exactly. I don't 'get' where exactly you put the piece of paper. Could you post pictures?
Thanks
newton23 said:
Having same issue exactly. I don't 'get' where exactly you put the piece of paper. Could you post pictures?
Thanks
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I used MS paint to specify exactly where I placed the piece of paper needed to apply pressure. As a precaution, the photo with hands does not belong to me, I simply used paint on a photo from the iFixit website.
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The picture above shows the problem area (on my phone at least), which includes the USB charging port connector and the corresponding port on the motherboard.
This picture is an actual photo of my device. I used the 2mm double sided tape I had to affix the piece of paper on the white battery cover panel on the right. The red circle the left (the one on my actual device) is merely there to provide an idea of where you need to apply pressure on the phone in order to have the connector and port make a solid connection.
I started having issues with the battery cover getting a little bit loose because of the paper inside so I started using a tight case (a cheap $2 Chinese knockoff case i found on eBay) to keep the battery cover and paper intact.
Also keep in mind that the vibrator motor is right above the spot I mentioned for the piece of paper so if your phone begins to have a flaky vibration, the piece of paper may be too thick.
As I mentioned in previous posts, this is by no means a permanent fix to the issue. I've come to the conclusion that this issue is hardware related and most likely a problem with the motherboard. I absolutely love my nexus 5 and I can't think of another phone I would want instead, so this "fix" will have to do. If anyone else finds a better solution, please don't hesitate to let us know!
Mine stopped working halfway through the day yesterday. Made calls all morning then zip.....pressing on the back of the phone works fine for speech input but is intolerable for phone conversation. Switching to speakerphone works fine, so I'm assuming its not an actual microphone problem. Doesn't record audio when video recording either. This sucks. Love this phone.
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Mine stopped working halfway through the day yesterday. Made calls all morning then zip.....pressing on the back of the phone works fine for speech input but is intolerable for phone conversation. Switching to speakerphone works fine, so I'm assuming its not an actual microphone problem. Doesn't record audio when video recording either. This sucks. Love this phone.
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Yeah I had a lot of trouble pinpointing the culprit for this issue since it appears to be hardware related but has hints of software relation. I haven't found any other thread or website with anything similar to what I have tried so I don't have much information.
Seems like the only solution to the problem is pressing the back of the phone around that flash area but no one seems to try opening up the phone. If you find out any info not mentioned in this thread, please post your results so we can find a fix for it.
Thanks for that. I've put a small piece of thin cardboard with doublesided tape where you indicated. It is working... so far!
It's a pretty big workaround (in a way). Not sure what a more permanent solution would be. Hopefully this works for a while.
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Thanks for that. I've put a small piece of thin cardboard with doublesided tape where you indicated. It is working... so far!
It's a pretty big workaround (in a way). Not sure what a more permanent solution would be. Hopefully this works for a while.
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I'm happy I could help.
I know it's kind of a hassle, I had to play with it a few times to get it to work again (either mic would give in and out or the vibrator motor wouldn't work).
Unfortunately for me, I dropped my phone and shattered the screen for the 2nd time and I decided it was enough money spent on my nexus 5... time to go check out the desolate page for the 2015 moto e.
rehpot1 said:
Mine stopped working halfway through the day yesterday. Made calls all morning then zip.....pressing on the back of the phone works fine for speech input but is intolerable for phone conversation. Switching to speakerphone works fine, so I'm assuming its not an actual microphone problem. Doesn't record audio when video recording either. This sucks. Love this phone.
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So I bought a nexus 6 and decided to try and fix the nexus 5 by sending back to have it repaired. Because I bought the phone from the google website I started by going to their website clicking on support, reading about booting into safe mode, blah blah blah. Ended by clicking on the chat with us button.
After a little Q and A, ended up talking on the phone with someone in support (google) and they told me it was out of warranty but that I could send it into LG for repair. They transferred me to LG. Was told that LG would look at it and contact me with repair options. LG sent me a prepaid FedEx airbill that week, I sent it to LG. They sent me an email quote of $50 to repair or $150 to replace with refurbished. I chose repair. It's working fantastic. Your results may vary, but I was impressed with the process and the result.
The Same Problem
So... which is the final solution for this problem (I have this exactly problem). Have I to open it? if so, could you send me a video or something to guide me please.
It's works. Thank you!
seromba said:
FINAL UPDATE:
After applying manual pressure on different parts of the exposed motherboard, I isolated the pressure point to the left part of the connector that leads from USB Charging Port/Mic up to the motherboard.
I tried cleaning out the port and the connector and it doesn't seem to work without applying a bit of pressure on the connector. At this point I'm thinking it's just some wear and tear or a bit of malfunction on the motherboard port.
To fix the issue I ripped a small piece of my business card and used a bit of double sided 2mm tape to hold the piece of card between the connector and the chassis covering the motherboard. This pressure seems to be more than enough to establish a proper connection.
Alas the issue is fixed. Hopefully this will help someone else in the near future. Thanks everyone for reading at least.
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I had the same problem and after teardown my device many times I tried this and works!!
Thanks!
seromba said:
FINAL UPDATE:
After applying manual pressure on different parts of the exposed motherboard, I isolated the pressure point to the left part of the connector that leads from USB Charging Port/Mic up to the motherboard.
I tried cleaning out the port and the connector and it doesn't seem to work without applying a bit of pressure on the connector. At this point I'm thinking it's just some wear and tear or a bit of malfunction on the motherboard port.
To fix the issue I ripped a small piece of my business card and used a bit of double sided 2mm tape to hold the piece of card between the connector and the chassis covering the motherboard. This pressure seems to be more than enough to establish a proper connection.
Alas the issue is fixed. Hopefully this will help someone else in the near future. Thanks everyone for reading at least.
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Thank you! I have to replace my battery on the phone and before I could put it in my mic stopped working. I was considering calling Google, but didn't want to be without my phone. This was holding off my new battery replacement. Now I should be able to fix both. Thanks for the knowledge, I know what to look for.
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I'm happy I could help.
I know it's kind of a hassle, I had to play with it a few times to get it to work again (either mic would give in and out or the vibrator motor wouldn't work).
Unfortunately for me, I dropped my phone and shattered the screen for the 2nd time and I decided it was enough money spent on my nexus 5... time to go check out the desolate page for the 2015 moto e.
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Sorry to hear that you ended up needing to replace your Nexus 5 Pesky gravity. How is the Moto E working out for you?
This problem has come up recently for me during calls when I tilt my phone a certain way. No issues with voice recognition though. If you'd still bother to dredge this topic up, how did you find balance mic fix and vibration? I've been toying with the right size and thickness of the business card. Started off with a 9x3mm piece, which looked to fit about the red circle you had drawn--this worked but disabled the vibration. Tried pressing on the back of my battery cover, but vibration only worked for a couple seconds. Snipped it to 5x3mm and removed one ply from the card--vibration works but mic doesn't. I'm wondering if there's a certain way I should place it? Are there certain parts of the motherboard the card should or shouldn't touch (e.g. the metal surrounding the motor slot on the motherboard)? Been playing with this for the better part of 2 hours but don't know what considerations I should be making.
Much appreciated!!
Has anyone tried......
Has anyone tried to re-seat the the cable? I just did it to a co-workers N5 and it works just fine now.