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[Q] How do they know?

Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers

shakeyourmatt said:
Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers
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Depending on what you do they can't. If you have Froyo then obviously you have loaded unofficial software and they could see that. Otherwise I am not sure what you mean by load up on stock everything. If you did that on Eclair then I am not sure why you would want to root to begin with.

all you have to do, no matter what you flash to, is use Odin and you can go back to stock 2.1. even if you where using the fryoy leak with custom boot animations and all kinds of other mods...as long as you can boot in download mode you can go backto the way this phone was right out of the box

As of now this is only possible for mesmerize users, showcase has no 2.1 odin.
Swyped from my Mesmerize

Actually, I doubt USCC even checks. When you take your phone if for warranty, they just send it to the manufacturer and if the manufacturer (samsung) says that it's not warranty worthy then it isn't. At least that's how it worked for my TouchPro.. But all root does is add some files to the system. If you remove those two files it's like your phone was never rooted.

If you only rooted & it's stock firmware, hit the menu key while you're on the home screen then hit settings>factory data reset (THIS DOES NOT TOUCH DATA ON YOUR SD CARD). No way for them to know then. Make sure you have all your data backed up onto your SD card before doing this.

I've actually taken my phone in to the USCC shop a couple of times, the store manager thinks mine is so much better than his because of the theme and density and stuff. He asked me how it was so fast and I told him it was a secret
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they CAN see if you are rooted and you can take that to the bank. but because of a certain thing called the Bill of Rights they can not do anything with the information.
ya know when you download apps and it warns you about how it can collect data?
well every single carrier in the world CAN see EXACTLY what you have on your phone with regards to Firmware and Kernel.... that is a 100% guarentee. i know for a fact they can.
it is the EXACT same way that the network knows if your phone needs an update.
it pings your phone and requests firmware information. if its old it tells you there is an update, if not, it doesnt.
on my old EVO if you were running a non stock firmware, or even one that was modified you would not be told of updates because the network knows your not on a stock rom. the phone sends the servers information it doesnt recognize in regards to what you are running, or it sends info that the servers have listed as not eligible for upgrades and it denies you the upgrade.
now, JUST rooting, thats a little different. it needs more info than just "what firmware do you have Mr. Phone?"
but i can guarentee you that the phone IS sending data to the carriers about what it is running.

[Q] I think my girlfriends phone is fried! Can't open serial(COM) port in Odin

First of all I'm a "noob" when it comes to the ins and outs of the whole mobile phone rooting idea and processes. My uncle got me on board with this and is currently 700mls away...
Back ground on the phone, its a samsung epic 4g and it was rooted, I hadnt added any roms onto the phone. My initial attempts to do so after driver downloads and youtube videos etc...I had a hiccup at one point and had to reset the phone back to factory using odin. Very helpful by the way, saved my backside. I was able to get the phone rooted again and recovered the rom that I had saved on my gf's phone. My last attempt at getting a rom on her phone via attempting to change her eco5 version to ext4(I believe thats what i needed to do in order to get the syndicate rom on there) failed miserably. Either I didnt follow the video correctly or there were some pre-reqs that I hadnt covered prior to my attempt.
Long story short the odin attempt was taking extremely long and my phone got disconnected in the loading process. Her phone was showing up this danger sign with a phone/exclamation mark/and a pda...bad stuff. It finally let me reset it and i had what seemed to be her old rom...but with NO SERVICE! How do I get service back to her phone or am I screwed?? Someone, anyone please help me, let me know that there is some sort of full factory reset or something!! please...until then, ill have to break the news to her. I have full insurance and looks like it might end up being used.
A desperate user---

Don't worry if its just not getting service then you can get the apn settings for your carrier and add them manually that's what i had to do once.
Sent From my Galaxy S i896 Running Firefly 2.8

[Q] com.Android.phone crashes after root Samsung Admire

Last week I rooted my primary phone, a Samsung Admire with Gingerbread 2.3.4. This was done only after successfully rooting my older LG Optimus T running Fryo. I had no trouble with either phone during the process. However, as of 2 days ago the Admire has had some troubles, namely that the phone function crashes when I press the send key. I get the error message stating “Sorry! The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.” It will receive incoming calls but they cannot be answered and when I try, it crashes
I’ve spent much of the time since researching the problem to find the cause and it’s fix. In doing d\so I have read of multiple causes from screen resolution changes to attempted over clocking, which I have played with. I’ve read that there might be problems with the phones attempting to switch from 2g to 3g too rapidly, something this phone cannot do I believe.
I came to the conclusion, probably erroneously, that I needed to reset it back to factory and then reinstall apps and data out of the backup I made using Titanium Backup prior to the phones troubles. So I did so, doing the three button cocktail I’ve read about here on XDA Forums. After doing this, the problem persists. I’ve read some more becoming more baffled as I went along. So I tried to reroot the phone using one click root, and that was unsuccessful as well, no root. I then read that all I needed to do was to install Superuser from the Market. In attempting this I found my device was no longer recognized by Market and after going through their troubleshooting process it’s still unrecognized, Next I decided, also most likely erroneously to reset the phone again using the three button combo as before. This time I noticed at the bottom of the screen written in yellow, E: File is written: not updated
Also as a side note my phone currently says that there are 133MB available and after the reset(s) my bloat ware has not returned,
So that’s it. I seem to have deleted something that kills the phone app and prevents me from rooting. Other than those two things the phone is working well. However as it sits it’s merely a small Internet tablet with no phone capability. Can anyone help me out with this? And yes, I have read and read and read about it but clearly this is beyond my ability to fix on my own.
Thanks,
Zeke

Hey, my skill level ranges between beginner and intermediate, but honestly in a situation like that I would odin back to stock. I have an epic 4g, so I have no idea what your download mode is or if you have one or if you have to use quick boot or fast boot? Its one of those. If **** ever hits the fan on me (Thank god it hasn't yet) I would odin to an old stock rom and root it and install a recovery and wipe and flash a ROM. Good luck I hope I helped and didn't sound like too much of a scrub.

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Hey, my skill level ranges between beginner and intermediate, but honestly in a situation like that I would odin back to stock. I have an epic 4g, so I have no idea what your download mode is or if you have one or if you have to use quick boot or fast boot? Its one of those. If **** ever hits the fan on me (Thank god it hasn't yet) I would odin to an old stock rom and root it and install a recovery and wipe and flash a ROM. Good luck I hope I helped and didn't sound like too much of a scrub.
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I will research this Odin you mention as I have no clue as to what it is. Thanks, anyone else care to chime in?
Zeke

[Q] Back to Stock

Please forgive me, as I have not searched the forum extensively for an answer, but I'm in a bit of a time crunch as I am leaving on a trip tonight and need to get back to some semblance of a working phone.
Some time ago I flashed some rom (I think Paranoid Android; I don't remember. I liked it enough to keep it, then I didn't worry about it again after that.) Little by little it started getting slower and buggier, but for the most part it worked fine, so I ignored it. For the last couple of weeks it started losing signal and data constantly, with no change to the phone. I kind of just lived with it because I could usually restart my phone and I would regain signal, but as of a couple of days ago, it would just drop off and not come back until it wants to.
I had the day off to prepare for my trip, so I decided I would try to go back to stock; there's almost nothing that I do that requires a custom ROM and I had no data issues on stock, nor does my wife on her Note. I looked around for a bit for instructions to restore my phone, and found some, but out of the handful of pages I went to, each one had at least one link that was dead, rendering the method useless, to me, a layman, at least.
I then decided I would just find a Stock Rom, thinking that might be the next best thing. I found Clean Rom on here and decided to try to flash that. I made a backup of my system, wiped everything, and then flashed it. Except something is wrong with the zip and keeps giving me an error message. I then tried to restore my back up that I had just made to try something else, but something happened to that, and it also wouldn't open. I tried the backup before then (quite old, as I haven't done any tinkering with my phone for quite some time) and it worked, but it tells me that my sim card is disconnected, so I have no data or signal. As it is an old restore, I'm not sure what the name of the ROM is, but I can provide all of the information needed, if someone needs that to figure it out.
Anyway, long story slightly shorter: I need to fix this today, and like as soon as possible. I will give ten dollars, count them TEN DOLLARS, to the first person who can provide a set of working links and very straightforward instructions as to how to get back to stock (or if there is a good working ROM that will give me FULL functionality with no flares that would be easier to do. Easy and fast are the key components to this request). I'm not dumb, but I am no longer immersed in the lingo of this community, as it has been a few phones back that I really cared about actually experimenting much with my phone, so non-technical language would be nice. I know what flashing and wiping means. Most of the rest, probably assume I don't.
Thanks.

Your best (easiest) option is probably to flash another stock ROM, or stock-ish ROM. There are quite a few options in the Android Development section. There are a couple of stock rooted at&t ROMs in the first couple pages, also a stock rooted Telstra ROM.
You didn't mention which carrier you're with, whether your phone is branded, or any of your important details, like your firmware/hboot details and whether you're s-on or not. If you wanted to go back to completely stock, I'd need to know those details. Going completely stock can/will be a longer process though.
Sent from my Evita

Okay, I'll try another one. I'm not sure why Clean Rom didn't work, but if another one or two don't work I'll come back here and I'll have you talk me through getting back to stock and I'll throw you a digital Hamilton.
Thanks.

Well, I tried another couple of ROMs. They installed correctly, but it says that I have no sim card, so I still have no signal. Maybe I some how deleted my radio when I did a system wipe while trying to install one of the ROMs? I'm not sure.
Anyway, for "more details" I'm on AT&T, I'm not sure what you mean by branded, but it's the HTC One X, the current ROM is 4.1.1. I haven't done S-On/S-Off, or anything like that other than unlocking the bootloader a long time ago. The kernel version says 304010-g240d4d5, the baseban version is 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L The Build number is 3.17.707.1 CL134054 release-keys.
I'm not sure which of that information is relevant or not, but that's everything I can tell you.

Never mind that last post. When I said in the first post that I'm not dumb, apparently I lied. My phone fell off a table this morning, and I guess it knocked the sim card loose, but it coincided with doing the factory reset stuff, so I thought they were connected. I pushed it back in, restarted, and now the stock ROM I'm using works great.
Thanks/Sorry!

Well, it turned out to be an easy solution (Occam's Razor FTW yet again).
But this thread made me think . . . why the heck does it seem so many people lately flash ROMs without doing a nandroid first? Its a no brainer to me. If you are trying new ROMs, and not sure how they will perform, why would you not give yourself an easy way to simply revert to your last known good config?

I couldn't agree more, but there's plenty of not-so-smart practices on here, so I'm not at all surprised.
Sent from my Evita

Yea. Nandroid ftw
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Noob root now slightly bricked G Flex 2

Hi all. My new phone was going greatish. It was a little laggy, so thought I would root it and remove some of the preinstalled junk. All went fine no problem.
I removed some of the vodafone (UK) stuff, and all was well. Some time later though, I get a message:
"Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped"
And now my phone won't find the network and message pops up every couple of seconds. I tried a factory reset, but I suspect this made it worse as I have now lost my backups from Titanium app. The phone is basically unusable as it is due to constant error message and no network.
I have tried to access the recovery menu, but i get an empty robot with "no command".
I have seen some mention of CIDs on other forums but haven't got a clue how to go about fixing it or even where to start.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as obviously the phone is absolutely brand new, and I'm very very upset about the whole thing! Not to mention the fact that I feel like an idiot!
Anyway, thanks in advance.

You deleted something that was not suppose to be deleted. Don't the stock tot file on this forum and follow the steps to Flash back to factory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-flex2/general/guide-lg-g-flex-2-stock-firmware-to-t3037593 follow the video and you should be up in running in no time . make sure this link support your version not sure which g flex2 Version you have.

Still no tot files available for the LG G Flex 2 (any variant). Sorry got to wait for some to become available.

Thanks for the input. I figured it would be something like that. Any idea when the files might be available? I don't mind being a guinea pig at this stage. My phone is LG H955 on Vodafone UK.
I am going to try and play dumb in Vodafone shop today and see if they'll replace it there and then (doubtful).
I suppose my other alternative is to return it to LG for Firmware Flash. Anyone know if this is possible and potential cost?
Strangely, I'm not so bothered about (temporarily) destroying my brand new phone too much, it's my sudden lack of connectivity that hurts the most.
Thanks guys

Further update; I have spoken to LG tech support / repair department, and I told them the phone had been rooted etc. (I didn't leave any identifying details!) They informed me that as the phone was now out of warranty, I should speak to their service partner SBE.
After calling SBE, they informed me that LG or their partner have no obligation to fix rooted phones, so apparently they just won't do it, even though I'm certain they could, which kind of sucks, as I was obviously willing to pay.
So it looks like I'm waiting for the TOT files. I hope they come along soon!
Lesson well and truly learned!

djjag1 said:
Further update; I have spoken to LG tech support / repair department, and I told them the phone had been rooted etc. (I didn't leave any identifying details!) They informed me that as the phone was now out of warranty, I should speak to their service partner SBE.
After calling SBE, they informed me that LG or their partner have no obligation to fix rooted phones, so apparently they just won't do it, even though I'm certain they could, which kind of sucks, as I was obviously willing to pay.
So it looks like I'm waiting for the TOT files. I hope they come along soon!
Lesson well and truly learned!
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Stay positive. Hopefully those tot files come soon. I on the other hand what to experiment with my phone but need a tot file just in case I mess anything up.
If it's just your dialer that's acting up, have you tried a third party dialer to make phone calls?

djjag1 said:
Further update; I have spoken to LG tech support / repair department, and I told them the phone had been rooted etc. (I didn't leave any identifying details!) They informed me that as the phone was now out of warranty, I should speak to their service partner SBE.
After calling SBE, they informed me that LG or their partner have no obligation to fix rooted phones, so apparently they just won't do it, even though I'm certain they could, which kind of sucks, as I was obviously willing to pay.
So it looks like I'm waiting for the TOT files. I hope they come along soon!
Lesson well and truly learned!
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Lets see if we can work on this.
Is it working ok, just not picking up the network?
How long exactly have you had it?

If you put what you all deleted meaning what folders they were in i could make a copy of that folder or apps you deleted and upload them on dropbox for you that might help get you going worth a shot
Be better if someone had the same variant as you i have the Sprint model.

Thanks again for input. I have hopefully managed to sort this with my provider. I was just within the 14 day cancellation period, so I have arranged for a brand new handset. I know its a little bit naughty but if the phone wasnt so laggy to begin with, I would never have rooted it.
I'm guessing it makes no difference to them as the phone will go back to lg for wipe and reflash as a matter of course once returned.
Thanks folks, I will remain on this forum and hopefully not do anything quite so stupid again!

Unfortunately this is my last day with this device . Great phone but i was wrong the 810 processor is dangerously hot to the point it felt like my pockets were on fire. This my second g flex2 and I'm moving on to something more reliable. Love this phone but this heat issue i can't risk. After 14 days i would be stuck with this phone and i can't take the risk of hoping of getting a device that function fine bye everyone.

:victory::victory::victory:

Today, I've gotten myself in a similar pickle after applying noob root.. Data OK but no phonecalls and no txts. When I tried to make a call, the thing said the phone is not activated. Sprint tech supp was of course no help, so after some digging I found this: ##72786#
Factory reset, keep the data (and all apps).
That solved it.
I guess I'm old enough to know that being lazy doesn't pay.

Stank0 said:
Today, I've gotten myself in a similar pickle after applying noob root.. Data OK but no phonecalls and no txts. When I tried to make a call, the thing said the phone is not activated. Sprint tech supp was of course no help, so after some digging I found this: ##72786#
Factory reset, keep the data (and all apps).
That solved it.
I guess I'm old enough to know that being lazy doesn't pay.
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so you had root, and while doing this factory reset you were able to go back to full stock unrooted rom? if so, were you able to install updates? i too have a sprint version and i was rooted and tried installing an update but failed, i then unrooted my phone tried the update again and still got an error. im just wondering if this method would actually help people who have the same problem as i do.

gothikzoul said:
so you had root, and while doing this factory reset you were able to go back to full stock unrooted rom? if so, were you able to install updates? i too have a sprint version and i was rooted and tried installing an update but failed, i then unrooted my phone tried the update again and still got an error. im just wondering if this method would actually help people who have the same problem as i do.
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Unfortunately, that wasn't the case.
I tried every possible way to install this damn update. Rooted, unrooted, factory reset 4 times, tried to install from the system update in settings, from recovery (which is, at least for me, very tricky to get into) all efforts errored out.
I posted a link to the update.zip in other thread.
So then I gave up and used this noob root which killed voice calls and text.
This code I posted says it does a factory reset but is resetting something else than other factory resets because almost all my settings, passwords and all apps remained intact.. Then I used the original root method and everything works like it's supposed to.
I guess we'll have to wait until someone finally starts developing for our phone.

So after a few days I just received a notification for the update for the third time. Any suggestions as to how I should proceed? I've tried it while being rooted and failed, also tried it the second time after unrooting and failed too. Also, what is the default location where the update is downloaded to, so I can back it up.

So far nothing has worked. The update should be in the cache folder. There is also a link to download the update that someone posted in another thread here about the update.

FYI - I forced the update through recovery over root and bricked my phone. Like all the way bricked. I can get to recovery and download mode, but no fastboot even. Luckily I was within my 14 days and there is no way to tell it is rooted... because it doesn't even get that far, so I got a replacement. My sincere advice would be to wait to root until we have custom recovery and stock firmware available, and if you have root now, wait to update until a dev can release a "root safe" version.
I'm not an expert but I'm not new either. I got the original Evo on launch day and have done all kinds of dumb stuff to every phone since. This is the first time I haven't been able to recover it.

austontatious said:
FYI - I forced the update through recovery over root and bricked my phone. Like all the way bricked. I can get to recovery and download mode, but no fastboot even. Luckily I was within my 14 days and there is no way to tell it is rooted... because it doesn't even get that far, so I got a replacement. My sincere advice would be to wait to root until we have custom recovery and stock firmware available, and if you have root now, wait to update until a dev can release a "root safe" version.
I'm not an expert but I'm not new either. I got the original Evo on launch day and have done all kinds of dumb stuff to every phone since. This is the first time I haven't been able to recover it.
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=( *hug. That sucks man, thankfully you were able to get it replaced. *pfew I dodged a bullet there. I was actually thinking about doing the same thing getting home from work. Yeah its best we don't mess with the phone any longer those that have root at the moment. Until custom recovery and stock rom is out like he says.

Wow. How did you manage to "force" the update through recovery? I tried it through recovery but it would error out. (Error 7)

I will tell you, as a cautionary tale.
The error when you flash from recovery references a specific file that is incompatible with the update. I used root explorer to investigate further and found that the root script had overwritten a system file. The original was saved as "original" so I deleted the file causing the error and renamed the original one. After that, the update went through and I thought I was golden... Only now nothing else works.