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HTC being bugged?

Hello all,
I hope you are well. I was recently watching the news when a news item came up on phones being bugged, especially those that are sold on places like Ebay.
I bought my HTC Touch Pro phone from Ebay and noticed that it lights up at midnight every day, without fail. I am never even close to the phone when this happens.
This lighting up phenomenon was one of the warning signs that was mentioned that suggests phones are being bugged. Would anyone be able to tell me how to know for sure it is free of bugs? Or do other users experience this also?
Thanks in advance!!!

I believe that is normal. I have a few devices myself and notice it.
you are talking about the ring of light that luminates down my the home and call buttons right?
I hadn't heard anything about "Bugs" and thought you were being paranoid.
maybe I will have to investigate.

biggdogg40509 said:
I believe that is normal. I have a few devices myself and notice it.
you are talking about the ring of light that luminates down my the home and call buttons right?
I hadn't heard anything about "Bugs" and thought you were being paranoid.
maybe I will have to investigate.
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Hello! Thanks for replying! I was waiting for someone to post!
Well, allow me to explain more:
Usually when an HTC Touch Pro is not being used, all lights are off. When one uses the phone, they have to press the power button at the top left corner, just beyond the edge. This causes the entire screen to light up, but not the buttons to light up.
My phone has this occurring at midnight, although nobody is touching the phone. This has me a bit worried! I've had less advanced phones in the past and I've never had this happen with any of them before. Does this 'phenomenon' happen to anyone else?

johanath said:
Hello! Thanks for replying! I was waiting for someone to post!
Well, allow me to explain more:
Usually when an HTC Touch Pro is not being used, all lights are off. When one uses the phone, they have to press the power button at the top left corner, just beyond the edge. This causes the entire screen to light up, but not the buttons to light up.
My phone has this occurring at midnight, although nobody is touching the phone. This has me a bit worried! I've had less advanced phones in the past and I've never had this happen with any of them before. Does this 'phenomenon' happen to anyone else?
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It's your notifications being set for next day i imagine you have S2U2 installed "it's all normal"

Ignore calls when pulling phone out of pocket

I searched but couldn't find anything. Every time I get a phone call and pull my phone out of my pocket, I think I am sliding the slide up and ignoring the call. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
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I have this problem too. What I think happens is that the phone can detect my legs through my pocket. My phone is always facing down in my poclet so when I pull it out the upwards motion against my leg rejects the call. I don't like to face my screen on the outside because I'm always bumping into things with my phone in my pocket. Plus it just feels weird the other way.

I determined the exact same thing. I have the exact same reason you do to. I'm hyper nazi with my phone screen.
side808 said:
I have this problem too. What I think happens is that the phone can detect my legs through my pocket. My phone is always facing down in my poclet so when I pull it out the upwards motion against my leg rejects the call. I don't like to face my screen on the outside because I'm always bumping into things with my phone in my pocket. Plus it just feels weird the other way.
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side808 said:
I have this problem too. What I think happens is that the phone can detect my legs through my pocket. My phone is always facing down in my poclet so when I pull it out the upwards motion against my leg rejects the call. I don't like to face my screen on the outside because I'm always bumping into things with my phone in my pocket. Plus it just feels weird the other way.
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You could turn your phone so the bottom of the phone is facing your feet so you can pick up the calls when you pull it out of your pocket. LoL

Yeah that's exactly what I have decided is happening. I tried putting it in upside down, but then I have to flip it and plus I forget to put it in that way. I was looking for a setting like "turn screen on when receiveing a call" but I could not find anything close to it. I don't know what to do about it, but it is super annoying.

Nobody975 said:
Yeah that's exactly what I have decided is happening. I tried putting it in upside down, but then I have to flip it and plus I forget to put it in that way. I was looking for a setting like "turn screen on when receiveing a call" but I could not find anything close to it. I don't know what to do about it, but it is super annoying.
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Is there an app that can change the way the lock screen slides?
but after reading this not sure if you can find something.

hiltun said:
Is there an app that can change the way the lock screen slides?
but after reading this not sure if you can find something.
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There's WidgetLocker in the market. Allows you to change the lock screen. It replaces the stock lock screen. I tried it, but not loving it. Its customizable also.
Heres a video review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0DrRuw69qc

you can change it to the AOSP lockscreen but then your alarm clock won't work, so you will have to get a new one from market (granted this is only if your rooted).

Capacitive Touch Keys - whose the Idiot at Samsung who designed them?

Whatever engineer designed the timing of the lights on the capacitive touch keys on the Infuse ought to be fired twice. Once for the design and once for not having an option for an adjustable or always on setting when the screen is on.
There must be a way to make the <OPTION/HOME/PREV/SEARCH> bar to stay lit up. It is driving me absolutely nuts. It goes out in like 2 seconds after I have touched it. No idea why they did that. Stupid stupid stupid stupid design. 9 out of 10 times I hit the wrong key while in an app. It is so annoying.
I am really surprised no DEV has built a longer time option or even an always on option for those keys into a ROM. It's dumb design like that that makes me almost miss my iPhone.
From reading & searching it seems this doesn't bother too many people. I just can't understand why not.
I have tried "KEEP THE LIGHTS ON" app but it is pretty much useless on the Infuse.

there is an app called "keep the lights on" i havent tried it on the infuse but it works on some of the sgs phones.
edit: sorry didnt read the last line of the first post,
its not that hard to memorize 4 buttons, and if you touch the screen, the buttons or the volume rocker they come on.

Just tap the screen and they come back on.
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bryanb86 said:
Just tap the screen and they come back on.
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Dani897 said:
there is an app called "keep the lights on" i havent tried it on the infuse but it works on some of the sgs phones.
edit: sorry didnt read the last line of the first post,
its not that hard to memorize 4 buttons, and if you touch the screen, the buttons or the volume rocker they come on.
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As my OP says: "I have tried "KEEP THE LIGHTS ON" app but it is pretty much useless on the Infuse."
Memorizing them isn't the problem, it's hitting the wrong spot. For some people, with specific physical disabilities, it's not that easy.
Just a simple OPTION would resolve the issue. Still a stupid design. If the screen is lit why shouldn't those keys be lit. The amount of power that backlight draws is probably negligible.

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Just tap the screen and they come back on.
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Not always depending on what is happening on the screen and sometimes tapping the screen causes problems with the app that is running.

re: touchkey lights on
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Whatever engineer designed the timing of the lights on the capacitive touch keys on the Infuse ought to be fired twice. Once for the design and once for not having an option for an adjustable or always on setting when the screen is on.
There must be a way to make the <OPTION/HOME/PREV/SEARCH> bar to stay lit up. It is driving me absolutely nuts. It goes out in like 2 seconds after I have touched it. No idea why they did that. Stupid stupid stupid stupid design. 9 out of 10 times I hit the wrong key while in an app. It is so annoying.
I am really surprised no DEV has built a longer time option or even an always on option for those keys into a ROM. It's dumb design like that that makes me almost miss my iPhone.
From reading & searching it seems this doesn't bother too many people. I just can't understand why not.
I have tried "KEEP THE LIGHTS ON" app but it is pretty much useless on the Infuse.
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You must really have BIG fingers!
(there are only 4 buttons)
After about an hour of messing around with my phone I am so used to selecting those touchkeys that most the time I do not even look anymore!

Misterjunky said:
You must really have BIG fingers!
(there are only 4 buttons)
After about an hour of messing around with my phone I am so used to selecting those touchkeys that most the time I do not even look anymore!
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Unfortunately for some people there are things that prevent some of the simple things in life that others take for granted from being simple tasks.

They aren't that hard to see with the lights off...My phone is about 5 feet away from me and I can still see the home keys just fine.

wow what's going on, i think we are exhausting the op withthe same advice, lol
like i said, i missed that you tried keep the lights on, and yeah there is no reason the lights shouldnt be on all the time. its just something to deal with. sorry

Is it set on timing or a light sensor? Maybe try ro put something over screen sensor black tape or something.
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bryanb86 said:
Is it set on timing or a light sensor? Maybe try ro put something over screen sensor black tape or something.
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it is timing, not sure if iti is in services.jar or framework or the kernel. nobody has ever seemed interested in addressing this outside of the keep the lights on app, not sure why.

Let me just say, I am truly pleased that it is not a problem for those of you who replied how easy it is for you, but for those of us that it is a problem it remains a problem.

MisterEdF said:
Let me just say, I am truly pleased that it is not a problem for those of you who replied how easy it is for you, but for those of us that it is a problem it remains a problem.
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I hear you. This is one of the few things I don't like about this device. Most of the time it's not an issue, but in low light or darkness it's a bit of a pain trying to locate the right button to press.

"Keep The Lights On" app works fine for me
I just installed the "Keep the Lights On" app, and it works flawlessly. The bottom menu buttons stay on as long as the screen stays on.
Question: When you installed the app, did you add it as a widget, and then enable it? You need root access for this app to work.
I am using Infused 1.5.3, so, not sure if that makes a difference or not.
Edit: Just an FYI, I am using the free version. I would use the pro version, but I'll probably just end up uninstalling this app .

bassistguy said:
I just installed the "Keep the Lights On" app, and it works flawlessly. The bottom menu buttons stay on as long as the screen stays on.
Question: When you installed the app, did you add it as a widget, and then enable it? You need root access for this app to work.
I am using Infused 1.5.3, so, not sure if that makes a difference or not.
Edit: Just an FYI, I am using the free version. I would use the pro version, but I'll probably just end up uninstalling this app .
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Yes, I installed it as a widget and I do have root access. I am also running Infused 1.53. What kernel are you running? Maybe that is the difference?
It did work for the first few minutes I had it installed than eventually it started getting weird. Sometimes it would work in reverse, most of the time it wouldn't work at all, sometimes it would never shut off (which was OK with me). I contacted the DEV and he said it wasn't compatible with the Infuse and that would be the behavior he would expect.
I think if you use it for a while you'll see what I mean.
Edit: Just uninstalled/reinstalled. First time phone wakes up it works. Once it "sleeps" then wakes up lights NEVER come back on. If I turn widget off/on the same thing recycles. Works once than fails.

I've got to agree with the OP. Since we don't have a nice physical home button, it would be nice to get this thing lit up so we can see. I'm always in a dark environment and I keep hitting the 'back' instead of the 'home' key.
While we're at it, I like to know who the genius is that decided the location of the power button. It's almost impossible to push the button without squeezing the volume buttons. If they come out with a Infuse2 with the power button on the top, I'll switch in a second.

bdbx18 said:
While we're at it, I like to know who the genius is that decided the location of the power button. It's almost impossible to push the button without squeezing the volume buttons. If they come out with a Infuse2 with the power button on the top, I'll switch in a second.
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I absolutely love that... It's actually within reach unlike the top. If it's on top you can't unlock with one hand.
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I have massive hands and I have no problem with the power button.
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These sorts of issues (both the OP and the power button placement) are easily avoided if you actually go to a store and play with a phone instead of ordering online.
While I do agree that those two issues could have been handled better, I also understand that we're never going to get a perfect phone. So you live with what you like best.

[Q] WTF? Access to the notification tray while screen locked?

Who was the wise guy who thought that the notification tray didn't need to be locked with the rest of the screen?
After the ICS update, it seems that my notification tray is sometimes open when I pull the phone out of my pants' pocket. Since this isn't just a notification tray anymore and one can actually do sensitive actions over there, not to mention accidentally closing important notifications, I would say this is a very bad idea. I couldn't find any option to turn this "feature" off.

teomor said:
Who was the wise guy who thought that the notification tray didn't need to be locked with the rest of the screen?
After the ICS update, it seems that my notification tray is sometimes open when I pull the phone out of my pants' pocket. Since this isn't just a notification tray anymore and one can actually do sensitive actions over there, not to mention accidentally closing important notifications, I would say this is a very bad idea. I couldn't find any option to turn this "feature" off.
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Well you should not have upgrades to ICS then or done the proper research into what was in ICS cause that is part of the 4.0 Android OS now. Me personally I love it.

So, you are saying there is no way to turn this off? It seems very strange to not have an option for this..

teomor said:
So, you are saying there is no way to turn this off? It seems very strange to not have an option for this..
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If you enable a screen lock then it will disable that function. Otherwise, it's actually a nice feature to have IMO.

GROGG88 said:
If you enable a screen lock then it will disable that function. Otherwise, it's actually a nice feature to have IMO.
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+1 it is really nice, I can't go back to gb because of and I won't put pattern on for the same reason
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Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?

teomor said:
Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?
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No, shockingly not
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Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?
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No, not once. It's in my pocket all day and I have a very active job...

OK, so I set up a pattern now and the issue is solved. But now I have 2 lockscreens instead of 1 :-( . Wasn't there supposed to be an option to unlock the screen straight to desktop (pattern in my case)?

teomor said:
OK, so I set up a pattern now and the issue is solved. But now I have 2 lockscreens instead of 1 :-( . Wasn't there supposed to be an option to unlock the screen straight to desktop (pattern in my case)?
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Nope. You don't have two lockscreens, you have a lockscreen and a security screen. It's performing normally.

I know there is nothing actually wrong with this, but it just makes the phone harder to use. I mean slower to make a quick phone call, or quickly open an IM app and reply.

usually..
usually you can disable it, if you have the development function on your htc settings for ics, usually there is a function in the lockscreen part where it asks you to keep taskbar on top or untouchable after lockscreen is on.. try to look on accessibility and security or else download 'rom toolbox' and there should be a function where it allows u to enable or disable this function

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usually you can disable it, if you have the development function on your htc settings for ics, usually there is a function in the lockscreen part where it asks you to keep taskbar on top or untouchable after lockscreen is on.. try to look on accessibility and security or else download 'rom toolbox' and there should be a function where it allows u to enable or disable this function
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Um... besides, you can't "do" anything with it unless you touch the screen. Are you touching the screen while the phone is in your pocket?
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I keep my phone with the screen facing my leg and when there's moisture in my pocket, like in the summer for instance, I'm pretty sure things are happening that aren't supposed to happen
Also, the power button is somehow positioned that sitting down in the car for example accidentally pushes on it.
You could argue that only tight pants cause this issue, but c'moon
I've had several occasions where I would take out the phone from my pocket and find some app being open and doing stuff...

teomor said:
I keep my phone with the screen facing my leg and when there's moisture in my pocket, like in the summer for instance, I'm pretty sure things are happening that aren't supposed to happen
Also, the power button is somehow positioned that sitting down in the car for example accidentally pushes on it.
You could argue that only tight pants cause this issue, but c'moon
I've had several occasions where I would take out the phone from my pocket and find some app being open and doing stuff...
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Buy an Incipio NGP case, which has a reinforced power button cover.
Never again will you have accidental power-button presses.
It's silly that you want to get rid of such a great feature. My phone always faces my leg in my pocket, and in the 10 months that I've owned my phone, I have NEVER pulled my phone out with the phone unlocked by my pocket.

Thinking more and more about it, it does seem to be a nice feature. I might give it a second chance, despite that only having it for 1 day and already found it open by mistake....

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Thinking more and more about it, it does seem to be a nice feature. I might give it a second chance, despite that only having it for 1 day and already found it open by mistake....
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I've thought about that but the shape doesn't help at all... Also, the power button would be even more prone to accidental press.

teomor said:
I've thought about that but the shape doesn't help at all... Also, the power button would be even more prone to accidental press.
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Do you use a case?

Haptic feedback suddenly stopped working

Just noticed it. No idea why. I turned the tablet off/on a couple of times but that didn't do anything. Any ideas?

The motor might be dead. Have you tried toggling it under sound?
The 700 I got from Best Buy, a C7, haptic was dead out of the box. Had to take it back.

Factory reset didn't fix it either. I'm hesitant to exchange it because I don't have any of the other issues people are complaining about with this one but might with another. What a pain in the ass.

Does it vibrate when you power on or off? It should at least do that, if it does, its working. If you don't feel anything its toast.
Makes me mad too cause the one I had, everything was great except haptic. I didn't want to wait for another one so just took the refund

NeoMagus said:
Does it vibrate when you power on or off? It should at least do that, if it does, its working. If you don't feel anything its toast.
Makes me mad too cause the one I had, everything was great except haptic. I didn't want to wait for another one so just took the refund
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Yeah, it vibrates when turning on/off. The tablet has been set to 'vibrate on touch' since day 1. Mysteriously that doesn't seem to work anymore.

after seeing this thread i just checked mine out. The haptic feedback is really really weak. I cant really feel it unless i am paying really close attention. On my prime it is noticeable, for sure.
I powered down and back up as suggested and got the standard 1/2 second buzz associated with those actions.
Maybe something in the update neutered the feedback? Is anyone's really pronounced?

stunya said:
after seeing this thread i just checked mine out. The haptic feedback is really really weak. I cant really feel it unless i am paying really close attention. On my prime it is noticeable, for sure.
I powered down and back up as suggested and got the standard 1/2 second buzz associated with those actions.
Maybe something in the update neutered the feedback? Is anyone's really pronounced?
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Mine was totally fine, pre and post update, until I think late yesterday? The only thing I can think of, and I really hope this has ZERO to do with my issue, is that I had left my stylus laying across the screen for a short period of time. I think while it was resting on the screen it was registering touches repeatedly and maybe this screwed up the feedback mechanism? I know it was registering because the webpage that was showing was zooming in and out frenetically until I picked the stylus back up.

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after seeing this thread i just checked mine out. The haptic feedback is really really weak. I cant really feel it unless i am paying really close attention. On my prime it is noticeable, for sure.
I powered down and back up as suggested and got the standard 1/2 second buzz associated with those actions.
Maybe something in the update neutered the feedback? Is anyone's really pronounced?
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IMO this tablet is considerably more hefty than the prime. I think its because of the form factor that doesn't transit vibrations as well.
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I'm just going to live with the broken haptic feedback. None in stock locally to make an exchange, and I really don't want to go thru the rigamarole of shipping it back, waiting who knows how long for a replacement, and then possibly getting one with other issues.

I got no haptic feedback at all since I got the Infinity. There's no screen locking sound either. I guess there should be one anyway?! The settings for these aren't affecting to anything at all.

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IMO this tablet is considerably more hefty than the prime. I think its because of the form factor that doesn't transit vibrations as well.
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i messed with mine all day. i am on the fence about sending it back (though prob not). it transmits a decent amount of feedback every 2-3 times, then 1-2 time where it is barely noticeable. I did the same set of testing with the prime...it too has a weak signal every 2nd or 3rd time, but it is still stronger than "regular" on my infinity.
I am going to see what others say, but i might have to agree with you on the transmission of vibration. If i hold it up to my ear, its definitely trying to do something...just not communicating it well.

Where is this "vibrate on touch" option? I can't find it anywhere. Are you talking about "Vibrate on keypress" for the Android keyboard? As long as you get buzz during the turning off and on, you at least have it functional.

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Where is this "vibrate on touch" option? I can't find it anywhere. Are you talking about "Vibrate on keypress" for the Android keyboard? As long as you get buzz during the turning off and on, you at least have it functional.
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settings/sound/system - vibrate on touch.
its more for say a long press when adding a widget or icon...etc

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settings/sound/system - vibrate on touch.
its more for say a long press when adding a widget or icon...etc
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Hmmm. I don't get any feedback from that. Messed with some widgets and icons - nothing. Maybe its one of those things that didn't get checked by QC?

Ooookk...after reading this thread went to check my. Also no haptic feedback even if I check it from the settings...this is strange.

I never noticed haptic feedback.
After reading this thread I checked all the settings and I didn't get anything.
Except the one when you switch it off....
I'm using swiftkey.
So I checked the settings there.
It was activated but no haptic feedback.
But in swiftkey you can change the duration as well.
I set it to 60 and now I get haptic feedback.
So the hardware seems to be OK in my case.

I was getting decent haptic feedback when typing, backspacing, hitting the home key, arrow key, home screen, whatever, before it stopped working. I also tested out swiftkey from the app store and was able to turn up the haptic feedback setting when typing, but still nothing from screen touches etc. This has to be a hardware issue, right? Then again, why would this function work, then stop working, but then sort of work (at least on the keyboard side) when using another app?
I made an assumption that this problem manifested when I left my stylus on the screen causing the screen to bug out as if it were be touched rapidly and repeatedly. Because store exchanges are impossible at this time and I'm ~1.5 weeks from my 30 day return window I decided to order another one, and then set up an RMA for this one to go back and be credited; assuming that my replacement doesn't have any other issues. I couldn't justify letting this go considering the cost of this thing and the fact I've only had it a couple of weeks.

How about the screen locking sound? Should there be one?
Actually there is a very very faint audio feedback for touch that I'm able to hear with headphones in a totally quiet place. It disappears when unchecking the setting.
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Jack Daniel's said:
I never noticed haptic feedback.
After reading this thread I checked all the settings and I didn't get anything.
Except the one when you switch it off....
I'm using swiftkey.
So I checked the settings there.
It was activated but no haptic feedback.
But in swiftkey you can change the duration as well.
I set it to 60 and now I get haptic feedback.
So the hardware seems to be OK in my case.
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If you change the duration of the regular Android Keyboard under its "Advanced Settings" you can get the vibrate on keypress to work. The duration is initially set too short for the vibrate mechanism to fully buzz. I changed it from 1 ms to 100 ms and I get definite (but not powerful) jiggle.
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How about the screen locking sound? Should there be one?
Actually there is a very very faint audio feedback for touch that I'm able to hear with headphones in a totally quiet place. It disappears when unchecking the setting.
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I can get a faint locking sound. Can't hear anything for interactions outside of typing though.
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I was getting decent haptic feedback when typing, backspacing, hitting the home key, arrow key, home screen, whatever, before it stopped working. I also tested out swiftkey from the app store and was able to turn up the haptic feedback setting when typing, but still nothing from screen touches etc. This has to be a hardware issue, right? Then again, why would this function work, then stop working, but then sort of work (at least on the keyboard side) when using another app?
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I just checked all of the boxes under the sound feedbacks. I can get some haptic from the back and home buttons but still nothing for widgets and such. Can't really notice any sounds from those though. Perhaps an update lowered the values for the feedback and that's why your initial problem happened? Dunno.

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I just checked all of the boxes under the sound feedbacks. I can get some haptic from the back and home buttons but still nothing for widgets and such. Can't really notice any sounds from those though. Perhaps an update lowered the values for the feedback and that's why your initial problem happened? Dunno.
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The problem didn't start happening until 2 days ago. The update has nothing to do with it. The last fix I tried to do was a 'cold boot'. I can't get that to work and yes, I followed the instructions posted on another forum and in YouTube videos. I hold down power and volume simultaneousy for up to a minute and nothing happens, other than locking it up and I have to stick a paper clip to reset it.