Whatever engineer designed the timing of the lights on the capacitive touch keys on the Infuse ought to be fired twice. Once for the design and once for not having an option for an adjustable or always on setting when the screen is on.
There must be a way to make the <OPTION/HOME/PREV/SEARCH> bar to stay lit up. It is driving me absolutely nuts. It goes out in like 2 seconds after I have touched it. No idea why they did that. Stupid stupid stupid stupid design. 9 out of 10 times I hit the wrong key while in an app. It is so annoying.
I am really surprised no DEV has built a longer time option or even an always on option for those keys into a ROM. It's dumb design like that that makes me almost miss my iPhone.
From reading & searching it seems this doesn't bother too many people. I just can't understand why not.
I have tried "KEEP THE LIGHTS ON" app but it is pretty much useless on the Infuse.
there is an app called "keep the lights on" i havent tried it on the infuse but it works on some of the sgs phones.
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its not that hard to memorize 4 buttons, and if you touch the screen, the buttons or the volume rocker they come on.
Just tap the screen and they come back on.
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bryanb86 said:
Just tap the screen and they come back on.
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Dani897 said:
there is an app called "keep the lights on" i havent tried it on the infuse but it works on some of the sgs phones.
edit: sorry didnt read the last line of the first post,
its not that hard to memorize 4 buttons, and if you touch the screen, the buttons or the volume rocker they come on.
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As my OP says: "I have tried "KEEP THE LIGHTS ON" app but it is pretty much useless on the Infuse."
Memorizing them isn't the problem, it's hitting the wrong spot. For some people, with specific physical disabilities, it's not that easy.
Just a simple OPTION would resolve the issue. Still a stupid design. If the screen is lit why shouldn't those keys be lit. The amount of power that backlight draws is probably negligible.
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Not always depending on what is happening on the screen and sometimes tapping the screen causes problems with the app that is running.
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Whatever engineer designed the timing of the lights on the capacitive touch keys on the Infuse ought to be fired twice. Once for the design and once for not having an option for an adjustable or always on setting when the screen is on.
There must be a way to make the <OPTION/HOME/PREV/SEARCH> bar to stay lit up. It is driving me absolutely nuts. It goes out in like 2 seconds after I have touched it. No idea why they did that. Stupid stupid stupid stupid design. 9 out of 10 times I hit the wrong key while in an app. It is so annoying.
I am really surprised no DEV has built a longer time option or even an always on option for those keys into a ROM. It's dumb design like that that makes me almost miss my iPhone.
From reading & searching it seems this doesn't bother too many people. I just can't understand why not.
I have tried "KEEP THE LIGHTS ON" app but it is pretty much useless on the Infuse.
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You must really have BIG fingers!
(there are only 4 buttons)
After about an hour of messing around with my phone I am so used to selecting those touchkeys that most the time I do not even look anymore!
Misterjunky said:
You must really have BIG fingers!
(there are only 4 buttons)
After about an hour of messing around with my phone I am so used to selecting those touchkeys that most the time I do not even look anymore!
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Unfortunately for some people there are things that prevent some of the simple things in life that others take for granted from being simple tasks.
They aren't that hard to see with the lights off...My phone is about 5 feet away from me and I can still see the home keys just fine.
wow what's going on, i think we are exhausting the op withthe same advice, lol
like i said, i missed that you tried keep the lights on, and yeah there is no reason the lights shouldnt be on all the time. its just something to deal with. sorry
Is it set on timing or a light sensor? Maybe try ro put something over screen sensor black tape or something.
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Is it set on timing or a light sensor? Maybe try ro put something over screen sensor black tape or something.
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it is timing, not sure if iti is in services.jar or framework or the kernel. nobody has ever seemed interested in addressing this outside of the keep the lights on app, not sure why.
Let me just say, I am truly pleased that it is not a problem for those of you who replied how easy it is for you, but for those of us that it is a problem it remains a problem.
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Let me just say, I am truly pleased that it is not a problem for those of you who replied how easy it is for you, but for those of us that it is a problem it remains a problem.
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I hear you. This is one of the few things I don't like about this device. Most of the time it's not an issue, but in low light or darkness it's a bit of a pain trying to locate the right button to press.
"Keep The Lights On" app works fine for me
I just installed the "Keep the Lights On" app, and it works flawlessly. The bottom menu buttons stay on as long as the screen stays on.
Question: When you installed the app, did you add it as a widget, and then enable it? You need root access for this app to work.
I am using Infused 1.5.3, so, not sure if that makes a difference or not.
Edit: Just an FYI, I am using the free version. I would use the pro version, but I'll probably just end up uninstalling this app .
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I just installed the "Keep the Lights On" app, and it works flawlessly. The bottom menu buttons stay on as long as the screen stays on.
Question: When you installed the app, did you add it as a widget, and then enable it? You need root access for this app to work.
I am using Infused 1.5.3, so, not sure if that makes a difference or not.
Edit: Just an FYI, I am using the free version. I would use the pro version, but I'll probably just end up uninstalling this app .
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Yes, I installed it as a widget and I do have root access. I am also running Infused 1.53. What kernel are you running? Maybe that is the difference?
It did work for the first few minutes I had it installed than eventually it started getting weird. Sometimes it would work in reverse, most of the time it wouldn't work at all, sometimes it would never shut off (which was OK with me). I contacted the DEV and he said it wasn't compatible with the Infuse and that would be the behavior he would expect.
I think if you use it for a while you'll see what I mean.
Edit: Just uninstalled/reinstalled. First time phone wakes up it works. Once it "sleeps" then wakes up lights NEVER come back on. If I turn widget off/on the same thing recycles. Works once than fails.
I've got to agree with the OP. Since we don't have a nice physical home button, it would be nice to get this thing lit up so we can see. I'm always in a dark environment and I keep hitting the 'back' instead of the 'home' key.
While we're at it, I like to know who the genius is that decided the location of the power button. It's almost impossible to push the button without squeezing the volume buttons. If they come out with a Infuse2 with the power button on the top, I'll switch in a second.
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While we're at it, I like to know who the genius is that decided the location of the power button. It's almost impossible to push the button without squeezing the volume buttons. If they come out with a Infuse2 with the power button on the top, I'll switch in a second.
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I absolutely love that... It's actually within reach unlike the top. If it's on top you can't unlock with one hand.
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I have massive hands and I have no problem with the power button.
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These sorts of issues (both the OP and the power button placement) are easily avoided if you actually go to a store and play with a phone instead of ordering online.
While I do agree that those two issues could have been handled better, I also understand that we're never going to get a perfect phone. So you live with what you like best.
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Does anyone with Froyo know if there is a new timeout adjustment for the bottom button lights? I cannot believe that this would not be fixed. It's the single most annoying thing about the phone. Even aside from the problem of the lights going out after like 3 seconds, they don't even light up when you hit the power button to wake up the phone! How dumb is that? My GPS is fine. I want a button light fix!
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Does anyone with Froyo know if there is a new timeout adjustment for the bottom button lights? I cannot believe that this would not be fixed. It's the single most annoying thing about the phone. Even aside from the problem of the lights going out after like 3 seconds, they don't even light up when you hit the power button to wake up the phone! How dumb is that? My GPS is fine. I want a button light fix!
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Unfortunately not.
Haven't you gotten used to it by now? It was annoying for me for the first week. Now, I could press any of those keys with my eyes closed.
k2snowboards88 said:
Haven't you gotten used to it by now? It was annoying for me for the first week. Now, I could press any of those keys with my eyes closed.
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This......
Have you tried looking in various settings databases on the device itself?
k2snowboards88 said:
Haven't you gotten used to it by now? It was annoying for me for the first week. Now, I could press any of those keys with my eyes closed.
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Yeah, I know where the buttons are without looking, but if you hit them with the tip of your finger, you have to hit them right in the center. In the dark, I end up missing 1 in 4 times. If they were lit up like it should be, I'd never miss them. Since those buttons are used so much, it's just ridiculous that they aren't lit up the same time as the screen, or at least have a setting for them. To me, it's the worst design flaw of the phone, and actually, for me, it's really the only flaw. Since it wasn't fixed, I'm guessing the lights aren't tied to the OS. Maybe it's tied directly to the hardware, which would really suck.
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I looked through all of the settings. I don't have Froyo, but climber1872000 said there's no setting for it.
Noticed something while doing my customary video watching in bed last night...the backlight for the lower keys never shuts off if the screen is on.
Ugh.
Is there any way to change this that I'm overlooking? I really miss how on my Galaxy S they would turn off after 2 seconds
I'd totally donate to the cause of a dev willing to tackle this, too
Thanks in advance.
Yeah, it's probably easy to port my Fascinate mod (a services.jar edit) for this to the Charge. Just need a deodexed system dump to work from...
(I didn't even know hardware keys had lights!)
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(I didn't even know hardware keys had lights!)
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Neither did I, but glad to hear it! BLN on my Fascinate is one of my favorite things about my phone. Nothing like checking email by glancing at your phone.
Its weird, during times when im in full light i sometimes see the key lights on, and sometimes during the dark its off, its like it has a mind of its own.
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Yeah, it's probably easy to port my Fascinate mod (a services.jar edit) for this to the Charge. Just need a deodexed system dump to work from...
(I didn't even know hardware keys had lights!)
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I'll see what I can do about deodexing tomorrow, unless someone gets to it before me.
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For those interested, I found a way to disable the soft keys...for the time being.
If you're rooted, grab Screen Filter from the market, run it once with the soft key backlight disabled. It will turn off the backlights to the lower keys.
Then for whatever reason, until you reboot your phone again, even if the program isn't running your bottom key backlights never come back on
I've resorted to this method of disabling them for now until I figure out a better way of doing it.
I was reading about BLN and from what I read it appears that you can only turn all of the LED's on or off at once. When pressing any of the capacitive buttons, however, the LED turns off while all the others stay on. Does anyone know what's going on here and would we be able to take advantage of this to configure patterns for BLN (different LED's turn on for different types of messages)?
That pertains to the kernel if its not in the BLN app on the market. I haven't really checked the app but you can to see if it has that configuration. I'm pretty sure it doesnt though. Keep checking kernels for that.
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I was reading about BLN and from what I read it appears that you can only turn all of the LED's on or off at once. When pressing any of the capacitive buttons, however, the LED turns off while all the others stay on. Does anyone know what's going on here and would we be able to take advantage of this to configure patterns for BLN (different LED's turn on for different types of messages)?
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It's one LED for the whole button layout, so you cannot manage them separately.
And the button you press doesn't turn off, you move your finger on it, thats why it's off lol.
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It's one LED for the whole button layout, so you cannot manage them separately.
And the button you press doesn't turn off, you move your finger on it, thats why it's off lol.
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Haha. Yes I realize my finger is covering the button. What I'm saying can easily be seen in the lock screen. If you press the edge of the capacitive button you can see the led for that selected button is dimmed (before I thought it was turning off fully but it seems to only be dimmed). There must be an control for each individual LED that we could take advantage of.
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Haha. Yes I realize my finger is covering the button. What I'm saying can easily be seen in the lock screen. If you press the edge of the capacitive button you can see the led for that selected button is dimmed (before I thought it was turning off fully but it seems to only be dimmed). There must be an control for each individual LED that we could take advantage of.
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I am under the vague impression you are talking about some other phone. Nexus S doesn't do that, I believe Galaxy S does it. None of NS's capacitive button backlights turn off while pressing them. Besides, kernel devs would have found this long ago.
flodb113 said:
I am under the vague impression you are talking about some other phone. Nexus S doesn't do that, I believe Galaxy S does it. None of NS's capacitive button backlights turn off while pressing them. Besides, kernel devs would have found this long ago.
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This is very strange that it doesn't occur for you. I have an i9020a Nexus S and this is definitely happening on my phone.
it happens, especially during boot. Pressing on one dims the one you touched.
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I've seen it happen on mine too. Never thought much of it.
i know there is a setting to use the volume rocker buttons as unlock buttons, but that does not always work, but besides that is there anyway on the g2x to lock the screen but not have to use any button to unlock it? any app that will let you swipe a pattern to unlock the phone when the screen is off?
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i know there is a setting to use the volume rocker buttons as unlock buttons, but that does not always work, but besides that is there anyway on the g2x to lock the screen but not have to use any button to unlock it? any app that will let you swipe a pattern to unlock the phone when the screen is off?
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How would this be possible? If the screen is off, you can't use it, and thus you can't input anything, and if you can't use any buttons, then there's no way you can unlock it. What are you thinking about, voice recognition?
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no, i still want the phone to lock, i just dont want to have to push any buttons to get it to unlock, for the screen to come back on.
for example, i had a nokia nuron that had a slide switch on the side that would lock the phone, it turned the touchscreen off so you didnt accidentally start something. but it also had a screen timeout that would just blank the screen, then you could touch it and it would come back on without having to use the slide switch
i want to blank the screen without locking it. turning off screen lock you still have to use the button to turn the screen back on
I'm speechless!
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no, i still want the phone to lock, i just dont want to have to push any buttons to get it to unlock, for the screen to come back on.
for example, i had a nokia nuron that had a slide switch on the side that would lock the phone, it turned the touchscreen off so you didnt accidentally start something. but it also had a screen timeout that would just blank the screen, then you could touch it and it would come back on without having to use the slide switch
i want to blank the screen without locking it. turning off screen lock you still have to use the button to turn the screen back on
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This would also cause another problem. The screen being blank but still active would kill the battery really quickly.
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I'm speechless!
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LOL guess im asking the wrong question or not conveying what im thinking
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This would also cause another problem. The screen being blank but still active would kill the battery really quickly.
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well thats true, but it did work like that on my nokia. but really how much more battery would it use if the screen blanks but doesnt sleep? not anymore than if i was using it, probably even less
oh well, guess its just wishful thinking
How can you lock something, and use nothing to unlock it?
For example, you use a key to lock your door, you must use a key to unlock it. Or, you can leave the door open (leave the screen blank), but risk getting robbed (battery drained). I'm sorry if the analogy is bad, what you're asking for is ridiculous.
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How can you lock something, and use nothing to unlock it?
For example, you use a key to lock your door, you must use a key to unlock it. Or, you can leave the door open (leave the screen blank), but risk getting robbed (battery drained). I'm sorry if the analogy is bad, what you're asking for is ridiculous.
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ok, i think what im doing is confusing blanking the screen with locking the phone, 2 different things. im just concerned that button is gonna get a lot of use and wish the volume rocker wake would work better. oh well
thanks for everyone's input, was just hoping
Blanking the screen like it reduces the brightness after a while? If so, there might be an app for it, but it will definitely reduce your battery greatly.
Either way, don't worry about the button. You probably won't have the phone that long, or you'll break something different.
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Blanking the screen like it reduces the brightness after a while? If so, there might be an app for it, but it will definitely reduce your battery greatly.
Either way, don't worry about the button. You probably won't have the phone that long, or you'll break something different.
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well i hope to have it that long, just got it
Was hanging on for the Pixel 2 but my Mate 9 broke so got this, Love the phone other than a couple of niggling issues,
1. Why the hell is the led charging light staying RED even when it's fully charged? This is the basic of functions of a flagship phone, my mate 9 changed shades of colour until a strong green when you knew it was fully charged this thing just carry's on solid red, I've used light manager and lightflow before and don't want to use them again, way too many config options for a simple led task, have all samsungs been like this? this is my first.
2. That stupid capacitive HOME button at the bottom of the panel that can't be turned OFF! is a pain in the ass, everytime I lift my phone out of my pocket or take it out of it's pouch keeps touching that stupid home button behind the screen and waking the phone up, I've contacted Samsung and they said it's an integral function and can't be turned off, I've lowered the sensitivity to it's lowest and still it wakes the phone everytime I brush my hand across the bottom of the screen, it is really annoying that with all the software configurations on this phone that it can't be turned off.
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Was hanging on for the Pixel 2 but my Mate 9 broke so got this, Love the phone other than a couple of niggling issues,
1. Why the hell is the led charging light staying RED even when it's fully charged? This is the basic of functions of a flagship phone, my mate 9 changed shades of colour until a strong green when you knew it was fully charged this thing just carry's on solid red, I've used light manager and lightflow before and don't want to use them again, way too many config options for a simple led task, have all samsungs been like this? this is my first.
2. That stupid capacitive HOME button at the bottom of the panel that can't be turned OFF! is a pain in the ass, everytime I lift my phone out of my pocket or take it out of it's pouch keeps touching that stupid home button behind the screen and waking the phone up, I've contacted Samsung and they said it's an integral function and can't be turned off, I've lowered the sensitivity to it's lowest and still it wakes the phone everytime I brush my hand across the bottom of the screen, it is really annoying that with all the software configurations on this phone that it can't be turned off.
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1) No it is not staying red, it is green
2) there is NO capacitive home button, S8+ has no front buttons
1st - havent charged it to 100 yet.
2nd- that icon is fine with me. Don't have any problems with taking the phone out of the pouch.
So far, knock on wood - im enjoying this phone more than my N7. There is nothing yet that bothers me about it.
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1) No it is not staying red, it is green
2) there is NO capacitive home button, S8+ has no front buttons
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Yes there is a capacitive home button in the middle at the bottom.
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1st - havent charged it to 100 yet.
2nd- that icon is fine with me. Don't have any problems with taking the phone out of the pouch.
So far, knock on wood - im enjoying this phone more than my N7. There is nothing yet that bothers me about it.
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Correct, but i will say i've never owned a phone that took 10-15 mins to get from 99% to 100%, i love the phone but i'm constantly catching that home button and it's very annoying to me.
That is not capacitive button but "software" button on screen... never managed to press it while taking the phone out of the pocket....
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That is not capacitive button but "software" button on screen... never managed to press it while taking the phone out of the pocket....
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The whole screen is capacitive, call it what you want but the screen is capacitive like the nav bar buttons are capacitive. It is a capacitive button.
Have you tried turning down the sensitivity of the home button and possibly turning on "Keep screen turned off"?
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Correct, but i will say i've never owned a phone that took 10-15 mins to get from 99% to 100%, i love the phone but i'm constantly catching that home button and it's very annoying to me.
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Bat test on wireless. 97% and i have a blue light flashing. At some point the red light disappeared. Im sure once its 100% ill have green light on the phone if not then on wireless charger for sure.
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Thanks yes i have already done all that, it's not really changed the sensitivity too much on the lowest. I always grab the phone from the bottom to install it in my car mount and it's constantly waking up.
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Bat test on wireless. 97% and i have a blue light flashing. At some point the red light disappeared. Im sure once its 100% ill have green light on the phone if not then on wireless charger for sure.
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Yes it does eventually go to green bit takes a long time compared to other phones.
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Yes it does eventually go to green bit takes a long time compared to other phones.
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Dunno man, dont focus on it too much. Mine dont bother me at all. Would not even think about it until u brought it up and still dont care. Even bixby button does matter to me, dont have a difficulty with it. Although i am trying to remap it for something useful.
Home button i seen somewhere where u could diable it. now im not a pro, nor tried it. It could be disabling it everywhere. Saw it in number of apps i have install one of which was BK disabler.
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Dunno man, dont focus on it too much. Mine dont bother me at all. Would not even think about it until u brought it up and still dont care. Even bixby button does matter to me, dont have a difficulty with it. Although i am trying to remap it for something useful.
Home button i seen somewhere where u could diable it. now im not a pro, nor tried it. It could be disabling it everywhere. Saw it in number of apps i have install one of which was BK disabler.
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Doesn't bother me now i know it does eventually go geeen just thought i had a dodgy battery or something, yep i'd like to remap the bixby button to google assistant, imo bixby is crap. I'll try that thanks.
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Doesn't bother me now i know it does eventually go geeen just thought i had a dodgy battery or something, yep i'd like to remap the bixby button to google assistant, imo bixby is crap. I'll try that thanks.
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Np.
So far I've tried remaping bunch of dif way and the ones that have worked sucked. I guess I'll have to try the on from n7alliance. Pain in the butt but I have no other choice.
The home button squeeze thing sometimes stops working on me when I reboot my phone. It might have to do with certain apps, because it won't come back until I clear memory sometimes. So it can definitely be disabled without issues. I personally use it all the time.